Woman the Walking Contradiction
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Originally posted by Callan:
I have a big social circle of women (you included). And I agree with you, a woman is contradicting when she does not knows what she wants, but I somehow felt that this statements describe the majority of the women population. Looking at the ratio then, there are not many women left to fall in love with who are not in that category. Dun you women always claim that "All the good men are dead, married or gay." too? Then can I say "good luck" if you fall for a man who is not dead, married or gay?
What is the use of communication if you dun intend to say what you meant in the first place? Or rather to be fair at least most of the time. Most men does, but I figured that it is the logical thought process in a man and a women that makes the difference. Dun misunderstand me, most of the time I understand what women are trying to say to me. Most of them are quite happy with my ability to communicate with them on their level, emotionally or intellectually. But that does not mean that what they are saying is not what they really intend to say.
As for excuses for rejection, well, just to let you know more about men here. We are logical people, we dun really need women to let us feel life is a bed of roses. I think we are strong enough emotionally to know that we are ugly or not your type. We rather have the truth and break our "Frail ego" (Another assumption women have of men), then to listen to fairy tales. Try rejecting a man outright next time, you will find that it is definitely more effective and you might still end up as "friends"(because based on the ladder theory, men and women can never be friends) unlike what many women thinks to be. You can try it on me if you want, but like I said, I'm special...so the results might be otherwise.
kaoz wall of text >.<I have a big social circle of women (you included). And I agree with you, a woman is contradicting when she does not knows what she wants, but I somehow felt that this statements describe the majority of the women population. Looking at the ratio then, there are not many women left to fall in love with who are not in that category. Dun you women always claim that "All the good men are dead, married or gay." too? Then can I say "good luck" if you fall for a man who is not dead, married or gay?
simple: we dun need a good man... we just want a man tat's good to us...
What is the use of communication if you dun intend to say what you meant in the first place? Or rather to be fair at least most of the time. Most men does, but I figured that it is the logical thought process in a man and a women that makes the difference. Dun misunderstand me, most of the time I understand what women are trying to say to me. Most of them are quite happy with my ability to communicate with them on their level, emotionally or intellectually. But that does not mean that what they are saying is not what they really intend to say.
woman sometimes say things cos of their "demure/shyness/watever shit u call it"... just like when i say, "tao yan"... does it necessarily mean i dislike u? if so, wat do u make out of me saying, "ni ki si"?!
As for excuses for rejection, well, just to let you know more about men here. We are logical people, we dun really need women to let us feel life is a bed of roses. I think we are strong enough emotionally to know that we are ugly or not your type. We rather have the truth and break our "Frail ego" (Another assumption women have of men), then to listen to fairy tales. Try rejecting a man outright next time, you will find that it is definitely more effective and you might still end up as "friends"(because based on the ladder theory, men and women can never be friends) unlike what many women thinks to be. You can try it on me if you want, but like I said, I'm special...so the results might be otherwise.
trust me... thr r a plenty of man with super frail ego who can't handle the truth... just like thr r a plenty of woman who are just trying to be nice...
i'm prob not the best ans (if u r looking for any)... i'm not a typical woman, my mentality is more man than the avg woman... i reject ppl in the face (if i'm done with being polite)...
and pls dun reply with another wall of text... *headache*
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1. Yes. Most women are walking contradictions of themselves. Men too. Just that men often are less expressive, so you don't get to see the 'obvious' side of things.
2. Anybody can come up with any form of excuses they want when they want to do something in a certain way. Just that women don't bother to fabricate excuses with 'logic', while men often do... They can just be made up of distorted 'logics'.
3. It's common. Some things are too good to lose. 'Friend' & 'Lover' are often contradictions to each other. Not that they cannot co-exist, except that it's VERY difficult to especially when one has already weigh heavily in a relationship (note. Here I refer to any relationship in general terms). A 'friend' into a 'lover' is a breach of line, often from orderliness into chaos. Hence, hardly accepted. A 'lover' into 'friend' is often the bloom of a BGR or love relationship. When it deepens, either stabilised into something very difficult or risk destruction at cost.
4. Girl going into the same kinda jerk is quite a deep topic by itself. I've gone through this topic in the past. Basically, it's something something like women think by 'heart'. It's not something which is so really 'wrong' about. It's just their 'made up' which I would refrain from discussing in depth here. See it this way.. There're things they're more capable of and others which they're not. Of course, varies among individuals.
5. Do women want it all or just wanted to be treated equally? I think this is very subjective. Depends on which women you're talking about?
6. Nope. Women in general are not better at handling emotions as compared to men.
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Originally posted by tare:
a woman contradict herself when she doesn't know wat she wants... if u fall for such a gal, good luck...
True. But some things are not that obvious. It might be a little late by the time ya realised it? -
Originally posted by Devil1976:
1. Yes. Most women are walking contradictions of themselves. Men too. Just that men often are less expressive, so you don't get to see the 'obvious' side of things.
2. Anybody can come up with any form of excuses they want when they want to do something in a certain way. Just that women don't bother to fabricate excuses with 'logic', while men often do... They can just be made up of distorted 'logics'.
3. It's common. Some things are too good to lose. 'Friend' & 'Lover' are often contradictions to each other. Not that they cannot co-exist, except that it's VERY difficult to especially when one has already weigh heavily in a relationship (note. Here I refer to any relationship in general terms). A 'friend' into a 'lover' is a breach of line, often from orderliness into chaos. Hence, hardly accepted. A 'lover' into 'friend' is often the bloom of a BGR or love relationship. When it deepens, either stabilised into something very difficult or risk destruction at cost.
4. Girl going into the same kinda jerk is quite a deep topic by itself. I've gone through this topic in the past. Basically, it's something something like women think by 'heart'. It's not something which is so really 'wrong' about. It's just their 'made up' which I would refrain from discussing in depth here. See it this way.. There're things they're more capable of and others which they're not. Of course, varies among individuals.
5. Do women want it all or just wanted to be treated equally? I think this is very subjective. Depends on which women you're talking about?
6. Nope. Women in general are not better at handling emotions as compared to men.
I like the way you are thinking.
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Originally posted by Bak la va:
I agree with tare......... A perfect guy may not have a perfect gal in life. A devil may ends up with his angel. Human beings are not logical in their senses. They love to be treasured, yet stingy to give. She maybe the ugliest creature on earth but yet a lovely partner of yours........
Mostly imptly is the chemistry during the relationship. Treasure the relationship when chemistry is still ard. Look ahead after the chemistry is gone.
There is no regrets in life if u treat all your relationships with true heart.....
How very true.
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Originally posted by tare:
kaoz wall of text >.<I have a big social circle of women (you included). And I agree with you, a woman is contradicting when she does not knows what she wants, but I somehow felt that this statements describe the majority of the women population. Looking at the ratio then, there are not many women left to fall in love with who are not in that category. Dun you women always claim that "All the good men are dead, married or gay." too? Then can I say "good luck" if you fall for a man who is not dead, married or gay?
simple: we dun need a good man... we just want a man tat's good to us...
What is the use of communication if you dun intend to say what you meant in the first place? Or rather to be fair at least most of the time. Most men does, but I figured that it is the logical thought process in a man and a women that makes the difference. Dun misunderstand me, most of the time I understand what women are trying to say to me. Most of them are quite happy with my ability to communicate with them on their level, emotionally or intellectually. But that does not mean that what they are saying is not what they really intend to say.
woman sometimes say things cos of their "demure/shyness/watever shit u call it"... just like when i say, "tao yan"... does it necessarily mean i dislike u? if so, wat do u make out of me saying, "ni ki si"?!
As for excuses for rejection, well, just to let you know more about men here. We are logical people, we dun really need women to let us feel life is a bed of roses. I think we are strong enough emotionally to know that we are ugly or not your type. We rather have the truth and break our "Frail ego" (Another assumption women have of men), then to listen to fairy tales. Try rejecting a man outright next time, you will find that it is definitely more effective and you might still end up as "friends"(because based on the ladder theory, men and women can never be friends) unlike what many women thinks to be. You can try it on me if you want, but like I said, I'm special...so the results might be otherwise.
trust me... thr r a plenty of man with super frail ego who can't handle the truth... just like thr r a plenty of woman who are just trying to be nice...
i'm prob not the best ans (if u r looking for any)... i'm not a typical woman, my mentality is more man than the avg woman... i reject ppl in the face (if i'm done with being polite)...
and pls dun reply with another wall of text... *headache*
"simple: we dun need a good man... we just want a man tat's good to us..."
I can be very good to women.
"woman sometimes say things cos of their "demure/shyness/watever shit u call it"... just like when i say, "tao yan"... does it necessarily mean i dislike u? if so, wat do u make out of me saying, "ni ki si"?!"
Same as tao yan. But notice the term "tao yan" originated from women?
"trust me... thr r a plenty of man with super frail ego who can't handle the truth... just like thr r a plenty of woman who are just trying to be nice..."
Trust me, those are not man, but just man wannabe.
"i'm prob not the best ans (if u r looking for any)... i'm not a typical woman, my mentality is more man than the avg woman... i reject ppl in the face (if i'm done with being polite)..."
I love women like you...so will you reject me again?
"and pls dun reply with another wall of text... *headache*"
Is this short enough?
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Originally posted by Callan:
When did I say we are looking for a perfect girl? And unless there is a mistake here, I'm very much more a giver than a taker. And since 22 years old (let's forget those teenage years), I have always been very serious in all my r/s, I always try to love my 100% though I can't say I have actually loved 100% before. Once again, let me state my belief in r/s again, "The beginning of a r/s, is the beginning of a marriage." I dun think I can take r/s more serious or treasure a r/s more than this. But how is this related to women being a contradiction?
The fatality of your belief is a clash of beliefs between that of yours and your partner's maybe....?Disclaimer. 1st thing, people can change. May it be you or her.
2nd thing, people might not be what they appear to be.
3rd thing, people see things differently and think differently. What you think she see / think might not be what she's seeing and vice versa.
Another common wrong belief among people (especially males) is that how much I put in is = how much I get back for return. Remember that a love relationship revolves around 2 people. You can't see love as a 'logical' subject because the 2 main subsets within it might not be 'logical' in the 1st place.
A side note. Even if so happens that the women you've loved before are not idea, doesn't mean all women like that. For a starter, you might want to try knowing different type of women and not always fall for the same type. And the last thing a woman might want is someone who's despair. Don't give up on yourself and don't give up on relationship... Or so, relationship would just have to give up on you...
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Originally posted by Callan:
I can be very good to women.
Irrational as it may sounds, not all women would like to be treated well. This is not about logics. It's about personality. -
I'm a guy, let me share my views on your(callan) statements
I want a man who is not very handsome, but must be lookable.
Probably not look as handsome as Andy Lau, but must be pleasant looking eg, can carry himself off right.
I want a man who is chivalrous (or gentlemanly) but chauvinistic enough at the same time.
What?
I want a man who is not very successful in his career, but must have amass enough success in his work to maintain his position.
Very contradicting indeed, maybe they didn't phrase it right
I want a man who is not rich, but financially stable enough to maintain my lifestyle.
Probably a guy who is getting a fixed pay of say $2,000? Rather than working like a artist who probably gets paid $2,000 in what? 4 months?I want a man who has time for me but successful in his career.
Can manage time well
I want a man who is good in bed but not have sex very often.
I agree with you
I want a man who knows how to treat a woman good but knows how to tease her to love him at the same time.
To me, these 2 seems like the same. Maybe cause my girls are all still young?
I want a man who loves his parents...but must love me just as much.
AND THEY STILL ASK WHO YOU LOVE MORE
I want a man who is athletic, has a great body...but not crazy about sports.
Probably not fat, spends some time a week to work out.
I want a man who takes good care of me and gives me the sense of security, but must give me space to lead a independent life.
Not too stickyClick for my opinions.
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Women rule the world.
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Originally posted by av98m:
errr....the ladder theory is not really meant to be taken seriously hor. its just fun to read.
hahahaha.. interesting.. but some of it IS true to some extent.
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These are my opinions. Anyway, im a guy.
I want a man who is not very handsome, but must be lookable.
Pleasant looking. no B.O, no dirty fingernails, looks neat, has at least a decent sense of fashion, no unibrows(URGH!).
I want a man who is chivalrous (or gentlemanly) but chauvinistic enough at the same time.
Being gentlemanly is being slightly chauvinistic, just a tinge of it. like a drop or two.
I want a man who is not very successful in his career, but must have amass enough success in his work to maintain his position.
Simply, a man with a stable job. enough success in his work to ensure that he is needed and not in danger of being fired at anytime.
I want a man who is not rich, but financially stable enough to maintain my lifestyle.
As for this, depends on the girl's lifestyle. If shes the type where shes thrifty, then the average drone can support.I want a man who has time for me but successful in his career.
Capable of time management and future planning.
I want a man who is good in bed but not have sex very often.
A man who is able to control his desires? Anyway, i think women want a man who can let them satisfy their deepest darkest fantasies in the bedroom, and still is in control when out.
I want a man who knows how to treat a woman good but knows how to tease her to love him at the same time.
A man who is capable of pampering his girl with his love, and still is independent enough to draw back and let her chase him.
I want a man who loves his parents...but must love me just as much.
Simply, a loving person. Or rather a person capable of loving on two fronts. Love for your parents and love for your girl is simply two different subjects and they can be just as much as each other.
I want a man who is athletic, has a great body...but not crazy about sports.
Plays sports, maybe like every thursday night a sports activity but not till the point of crazy fandom over the sports itself.
I want a man who takes good care of me and gives me the sense of security, but must give me space to lead a independent life.
Confident of living his own life. Confident in his girl being able to hold her in the world and if she cant, to look to him for help. And he MUST be able to listen to her, understand what she's NOT saying. -
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Dear Callan,
I`ve read most of ur post,
somehow, i`ll like to pay my compliments to you.
First for stirring up such thoughts amongst the most educated and free thinking women in both geological and historical aspect. i do agree with you that at time, i used to have such thoughts too.. like what devil said, perhaps, we guys are less expressive thus think that women are generally more contradicting..
well, i`m rather contratictory too... i hate ppl who are contradictory, but i love women as well..
Secondly, for having such patience to reply everyone regardless of their type of comments really requires some form of unsurpassed patience.. for me, i would choose the `listen to the gd stuff` strategy. well, having such patience of yours, you had been able to pen down all these thought like crystal.. however, perhaps this topic would receive less rebuttals if it were just named as your personal opinions, but well, givin an absolute title as such only proves the reality of life, `Looks does matter` as contrasted to `Title does matter`
Well, i`ve been feelin rather down due to many small nitty issue happening all at the same time.. so perhaps u all wanna pardon me for watever rubbish i had made??
and to all the great guys and gals, i`m really glad u had all participated well without giving irresponsible remarks..
best wishes,
BaByBoY
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Originally posted by Devil1976:
The fatality of your belief is a clash of beliefs between that of yours and your partner's maybe....?Disclaimer. 1st thing, people can change. May it be you or her.
2nd thing, people might not be what they appear to be.
3rd thing, people see things differently and think differently. What you think she see / think might not be what she's seeing and vice versa.
Another common wrong belief among people (especially males) is that how much I put in is = how much I get back for return. Remember that a love relationship revolves around 2 people. You can't see love as a 'logical' subject because the 2 main subsets within it might not be 'logical' in the 1st place.
A side note. Even if so happens that the women you've loved before are not idea, doesn't mean all women like that. For a starter, you might want to try knowing different type of women and not always fall for the same type. And the last thing a woman might want is someone who's despair. Don't give up on yourself and don't give up on relationship... Or so, relationship would just have to give up on you...
"The fatality of your belief is a clash of beliefs between that of yours and your partner's maybe....?"
"Disclaimer. 1st thing, people can change. May it be you or her.
2nd thing, people might not be what they appear to be.
3rd thing, people see things differently and think differently. What you think she see / think might not be what she's seeing and vice versa."
I dun doubt what you said, not everyone has the same opinions and beliefs in a r/s. I hope you dun misunderstand that I'm trying to blame someone should the relationship not work out. It's just a mismatch. Simple and fair. It's just like religion, there will always be fanatics, and I'm a fanatic on my beliefs on r/s. So it will take another fanatic to go through life with me.
"Another common wrong belief among people (especially males) is that how much I put in is = how much I get back for return. Remember that a love relationship revolves around 2 people. You can't see love as a 'logical' subject because the 2 main subsets within it might not be 'logical' in the 1st place."
You can be the one taking control...really. You are the one who choose and decide how much to give and take. And the perfect scenario will of course be 50/50. Though it might not be entirely possible all the time, we alway try ti be close to the median. Please read my other article for further insights into my POV.
"A side note. Even if so happens that the women you've loved before are not idea, doesn't mean all women like that. For a starter, you might want to try knowing different type of women and not always fall for the same type. And the last thing a woman might want is someone who's despair. Don't give up on yourself and don't give up on relationship... Or so, relationship would just have to give up on you..."
Errmmm....are you talking to me about this? Looking at my history and what others know about me, I think I'm not about to give up just yet, but singlehood for now is fine. I'm enjoying the part of being the rejector for the moment. But who knows...someone might just steal my heart again. And dun talk to me about despair, I'm famous for kicking it in the face.
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Originally posted by Devil1976:
Irrational as it may sounds, not all women would like to be treated well. This is not about logics. It's about personality.Oh...I know that....I can be good but that does not mean that I can only be good.
I have been....young and dangerous before. *lol* But I think tare prefers man who are good to her. So I'm playing my part. -
Originally posted by Agenda:
Click for my opinions.
"Probably not look as handsome as Andy Lau, but must be pleasant looking eg, can carry himself off right."
Most real man can unless they were trained in the zoo or met with a terrible car accident with a car running over their face. But they always say beauty is subjective is it not?
Probably a guy who is getting a fixed pay of say $2,000? Rather than working like a artist who probably gets paid $2,000 in what? 4 months?
I think this guage is definitely below the national average. I'm earning more than $2k a month and I still dun think I can afford my own lifestyle.
"Can manage time well"
Easier said than done most of the time.
"Probably not fat, spends some time a week to work out."
Someone did comment that I grew some meat recently, I think she is being polite. But I like to think of myself as chubby, it sounds sexier than fat. Anyway, you said something about time management earlier? Try to squeeze this in as well.
"Not too sticky"
Basically..how sticky is sticky? It's subjective, I know some girls who thinks that a guy calling them 10 times a day is normal. If he does not do that, she would start to think that something is wrong with their r/s.
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Originally posted by Callan:
Oh...I know that....I can be good but that does not mean that I can only be good.
I
have been....young and dangerous before. *lol* But I think tare
prefers man who are good to her. So I'm playing my part.Look at their ACTIONS, what they're doing, not what they're saying. Action speaks louder than words.
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Originally posted by Callan:
An article I wrote a long time ago....call this a sequel to my other thread.
Can some intelligent women discuss this issue with me please? I'm really very into women of such calibre. Such women always attracts me. Yes, I'm contradicting myself.
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I know my ass will be flamed by hordes of people, my life will be on the line, my reputation at stake, my ego busted and women might want to hold me by my balls and squeeze...
Ok basically, you people out there will either love me or hate me for saying these.
Before any rocket launchers come pointing my way...just hear me on what I have to say...
I have many woman friends. I have had girlfriends. Not many really....but enough to know about woman. I often have conversations over some Earl Grey with these woman friends of mine, and sometimes the topic will revolve around the differences of the sexes. I have always respected woman, believing them to be an equal of a man, only that we behave and react differently to different situations. In fact I have some woman friends who packs quite a powerhouse background. Some are their own boss, some are hold in high regard due to their work ability, some are potential directors for MNCs...yes...they are good and capable people. So why am I saying that woman are contradiction? This has nothing to do with their work ability, nor capability. It is the thought process itself that I am pointing to here.
I have asked them sometimes...what do you ask in a man?
I get varied answers....but I sum these up as the most common answers.Well, looking at it this way....are the woman telling me that they are all looking for a Mr. Average? Look at the woman on the streets and most of them are with the best guy around. Else it must be some rich fat ugly man with the babes on his side. Hmmm...it must be really hard to be a Mr. Average then, why else are so many Mr. average (me included) not attached? Something is wrong with the fate machine. They forget to program it to detect the Mr. Average around. The one which so many woman wants.
Of course you are going to say that what you ask for is not necessary what you get...well...here are some of the contradicting conditions you gals ask for in a man.The list goes on and on...and I did not make them up...they are all from...you guessed correctly...woman.
Now let's see....what do we have? A man who is successful in his career most probably dun have a lot of time for his girlfriend or wife...I am a business person...and I have seen many successful guys who dun have time for the family. And basically a man who is good in bed is most of the time a man who gets a lot of practice...in this case...how can he not have sex very often? And of course a man who treats a woman good would not want to play mind games with her. As for the parents part....for those out there who are married Â… I am sure you all know how it works...most of the time it is either mum and pa or just wife and the children....it always have to be a choice between them. Basically if a man has a great body...he works out a lot. And if a woman is independent...she would not need a man to take care of her.
So how are these contradictions summing up?
Well...another contradiction of woman which I am sure a lot of you guys here have seen before....the way they rejects us. Here are a couple of examples...Well...looking at these rejection lines...I just sense each and everyone as a contradiction. Well...if I am good...perfect....why would you not want me? It just does not make sense...well....as for the friends part...I once got so piss at the answer that I cursed under my breath.."yah you screw your lover but you would not screw me, is that it?". Didn't woman always wanted a man who can be a lover and friend at the same time? Well....if you are not my type I would not have asked you in the same place...you can say that I am not your type...but you can't tell me that I am not your type simple because you are not me.
Well...another thing about woman....have you people not notice a rather strange trend nowadays? I give you people a real life experience I have...
I like this gal very much....I am the very nice guy who would always be there for her...take care of her when she is sick...lend her my shoulders to cry on....give her a hug to assure her that I am there for her...well basically...I am the nicest guy she has ever met.(She told me that, I am not blowing my own trumpet) Well....there is a problem...she had a boyfriend...a total jerk...he would humiliate her in public...treat her like a property...take her as his free maid...and of course the object to vent his sexual frustrations on. Well...she refuses to leave him because she says she loves him too much to give up. (what is there to love in him anyway?!?) Of course she got dump in the end after he found his next fresh free maid. She came crying to me...blah blah blah...and then say that I am the best thing that happen to her...blah blah blah...of course I comforted her and she felt better after a couple of months...then I decided maybe it is time I pop the question...and guess what? She rejected me, saying she found someone better...and runs off with the next best jerk that comes along....ok I told myself that I am not for her...and of course history repeats itself....she got dump by another jerk...and I again becomes her fairy god mother who mend her heart...and of course again she runs off...now she is with the 4th best jerk...and I can only say good luck to her...and give up on her...I dun wanna be a dunlopillo Mattress cushioning her every time she falls...and then be alone again till she decides fall again.
So the moral of the story is? Well...How can woman be so contradictory? Well..the perfectly nice young man is right in front of her begging and waiting for her to nod her head, off she runs off begging the jerks to take her in. and no she is not the only woman whom I have met in life who falls into this cycle...there are a whole lot of them out there....is it not contradicting?
Of course...these contradictions does not only stops in R/S problems...The modern woman too often cries out loud for equality of the sexes....and than they will claim that man are not gentlemanly to them...that we do not carry their shopping bags for them...that we do not open the doors for them...hmmm...I am wondering if they want equality....or the perks of equality with the original benefits of being a woman kept intact....what do they want at all?!?!?
Ain't women supposedly to be better at managing emotions than men? If so....why are they causing so much trouble for themselves then? It is one big contradiction all together.
BUT...one thing I still believe in...it is that...the very reason woman are so intriguing...and interesting...is simply because of such contradictions...and man can be quite a contradiction to like them for it themselves.
You need to realise that there are many types of woman out there. And I can tell you there are probably enough retarded women out there for those retarded men.If you always asked the same stupid question to the women that you've met or known, then of course you would only end up receiving stupid answers from them.
I don't need to ask you I already know those women that you have met or known aren't very smart or sensible types. And do note that doing well in their educations/careers doesn't means they are smart and sensible. One good example would be referenced to MPs and Politicians and Businesswomen and Educators.
I can tell you I will be with a man because I like him. There's no such things as what do you look for in a man, except if you want to ask such question to add insult to humilation to the retarded being that you are conversing actually with. Do you enjoy conversing with a retard?
Liking someone is alot like shopping actually. You can be shopping for a certain item, but they comes in different brands and packaging and prices. Ultimately you will end up buying the one that you really liked, of course there is no convincing explainations behind the choice why you ended up buying this one instead of the others. That is because you have made a subjective choice.
The keyword to all this should be "The entire package", you like something or someone is not because you are able to list out enough reasons to like that item or person. It is because you like that item or person based on the overall package that combines all the good and bad which happens to stir up sufficient comfortable and desirable emotions in you to trigger your heart to tell your brain that "This is the one I want".
I'm not surprised that guys like yourself are constantly seeking for the reasons behind attractions. But this is only because you all don't really have your own personalities or maybe you despised your own true real personalities? Guys who can change themselves by self-realisation are good, but most guys ended up as fakers who need to fake themselves to the death in order to attract the girl that they like. But seriously, I am sure even you guys are unable to reply why you preferred this girl instead of another.
And do you know why you are not able to reply this question? That is because the question itself is SUBJECTIVE! So there is no right or wrong answers to it, only got retarded question produces retarded answers from subjectively retarded people.
My opinions are not debatable as I am absolute. If you cannot understand my post, then I can tell you this post will be here long enough for you to understand it.
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Originally posted by DownAndOut:
These are my opinions. Anyway, im a guy.
I want a man who is not very handsome, but must be lookable.
Pleasant looking. no B.O, no dirty fingernails, looks neat, has at least a decent sense of fashion, no unibrows(URGH!).
I want a man who is chivalrous (or gentlemanly) but chauvinistic enough at the same time.
Being gentlemanly is being slightly chauvinistic, just a tinge of it. like a drop or two.
I want a man who is not very successful in his career, but must have amass enough success in his work to maintain his position.
Simply, a man with a stable job. enough success in his work to ensure that he is needed and not in danger of being fired at anytime.
I want a man who is not rich, but financially stable enough to maintain my lifestyle.
As for this, depends on the girl's lifestyle. If shes the type where shes thrifty, then the average drone can support.I want a man who has time for me but successful in his career.
Capable of time management and future planning.
I want a man who is good in bed but not have sex very often.
A man who is able to control his desires? Anyway, i think women want a man who can let them satisfy their deepest darkest fantasies in the bedroom, and still is in control when out.
I want a man who knows how to treat a woman good but knows how to tease her to love him at the same time.
A man who is capable of pampering his girl with his love, and still is independent enough to draw back and let her chase him.
I want a man who loves his parents...but must love me just as much.
Simply, a loving person. Or rather a person capable of loving on two fronts. Love for your parents and love for your girl is simply two different subjects and they can be just as much as each other.
I want a man who is athletic, has a great body...but not crazy about sports.
Plays sports, maybe like every thursday night a sports activity but not till the point of crazy fandom over the sports itself.
I want a man who takes good care of me and gives me the sense of security, but must give me space to lead a independent life.
Confident of living his own life. Confident in his girl being able to hold her in the world and if she cant, to look to him for help. And he MUST be able to listen to her, understand what she's NOT saying.If this is too lenghty to read, just know that I'm bored.
"Pleasant looking. no B.O, no dirty fingernails, looks neat, has at least a decent sense of fashion, no unibrows(URGH!)."
I think most guys from SG fulfill this requirement. Correct me if I'm wrong. We are not in Rwanda right?
"Being gentlemanly is being slightly chauvinistic, just a tinge of it. like a drop or two."
I think most of the time guys try to be like that, but then there are always posuers. I got to hear a story about one recently that was very much considered a "man who got no pride". Basically he asked for all the money he spent on his ex back after a breakup. He even force the lady to go to the atm to withdraw every bit of cash she had and left her penniless on the street. Last year, I was told by the same lady that he is a fine young gentleman. So to the guys out there who got no pride, my word to you is, "Save the act for the nymphos who just care if you have a big dick." That is definitely no male chivarly.
"Simply, a man with a stable job. enough success in his work to ensure that he is needed and not in danger of being fired at anytime."
Singapore has one of the lowest rates of unemployment in asia. I tend to believe that if you are willing to work in SG, you cannot go jobless. So why are the ladies still looking?
"As for this, depends on the girl's lifestyle. If shes the type where shes thrifty, then the average drone can support."
I'm an average drone, so where are the thrifty ladies?
"Capable of time management and future planning."
Again, easier said than done.
"A man who is able to control his desires? Anyway, i think women want a man who can let them satisfy their deepest darkest fantasies in the bedroom, and still is in control when out."
I think I said it before, skills comes with practice. That does not mean that you are a over zealous ape with raging hormones when you are out of the bedroom. Tell me who is? I'll alert the zoo.
"A man who is capable of pampering his girl with his love, and still is independent enough to draw back and let her chase him."
Mind games? ok, maybe this point is a bit rusty. But In my point of view, you dun treat your woman good when you play mind games with her.
"Simply, a loving person. Or rather a person capable of loving on two fronts. Love for your parents and love for your girl is simply two different subjects and they can be just as much as each other."
Are you or have you been married? You would wish women would understand what you just said about "two different subjects". They would not ask you funny questions then.
"Plays sports, maybe like every thursday night a sports activity but not till the point of crazy fandom over the sports itself."
I dun know. Can you get a great bod with just thursday night? Let me know the routine, the last time I had a great bod, I was burning 12 hours in the gym weekly.
"Confident of living his own life. Confident in his girl being able to hold her in the world and if she cant, to look to him for help. And he MUST be able to listen to her, understand what she's NOT saying."
That's security you are talking about. But the woman actually wants to be independant and live her own life here, without you! So what are you doing in the picture?
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Originally posted by BaByBoY:
Dear Callan,
I`ve read most of ur post,
somehow, i`ll like to pay my compliments to you.
First for stirring up such thoughts amongst the most educated and free thinking women in both geological and historical aspect. i do agree with you that at time, i used to have such thoughts too.. like what devil said, perhaps, we guys are less expressive thus think that women are generally more contradicting..
well, i`m rather contratictory too... i hate ppl who are contradictory, but i love women as well..
Secondly, for having such patience to reply everyone regardless of their type of comments really requires some form of unsurpassed patience.. for me, i would choose the `listen to the gd stuff` strategy. well, having such patience of yours, you had been able to pen down all these thought like crystal.. however, perhaps this topic would receive less rebuttals if it were just named as your personal opinions, but well, givin an absolute title as such only proves the reality of life, `Looks does matter` as contrasted to `Title does matter`
Well, i`ve been feelin rather down due to many small nitty issue happening all at the same time.. so perhaps u all wanna pardon me for watever rubbish i had made??
and to all the great guys and gals, i`m really glad u had all participated well without giving irresponsible remarks..
best wishes,
BaByBoY
Is this considered fan mail? Pardon me, but I normally recieve these in my PMs. But still thank you very much for the appreciation. I know I'm very cocky sometimes. So please do pardon my language.
p.s. I'm not really patient, I'm just too bored as most of my friends feels about my lenghty posts.
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Originally posted by DownAndOut:
Look at their ACTIONS, what they're doing, not what they're saying. Action speaks louder than words.
I have looked at tare's action and I definitely think she is not very interested. But then again, what's stopping me from going ahead for a rejection?
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Wa.. suddenly so many walls of text. -_-" Read until cross-eye. Someone please summarize and tell me la. I lazy to read everything. Hee
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Originally posted by Nata|ie:
Wa.. suddenly so many walls of text. -_-" Read until cross-eye. Someone please summarize and tell me la. I lazy to read everything. Hee
Summary:
Men are not as smart as women.
Really.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Summary:
Men are not as smart as women.
Really.