Originally posted by Xiaoming7:Nice, your trying to help by laughing, stellar, my day is complete.
and sorry about ur uncle dude, but please dun assume im a chain smoker, obviously it makes an ass out of u n me. im sure more than enough of singapore know that smoking leads to death and all sorts of shit, but honestly those ppl that die, they got attribute and tell us about the other factors like stress and depression? Most probably not. My grandmother chain smoker for as long as i could remember survive till 80+. She was happy with getting smoke in her lungs, for all i know it could be keeping her alive lol.
But do u honestly think slapping a 330 dollar fine on a smoker and litter bug changes him in anyway? Singapores approach srsly damn fucked up. If ur a smoker yourself you would probably know that, after you tell this kind of story to your buddies they will probably offer you yet another cigerette and ask you smoke it off and forget about it. But what do i know man. im just a kid right?
No, I didn't assume that you were a chain smoker. I just know that the earlier in life you start smoking, the higher the chance of you becoming a chain smoker eventually.
I also just made the observation that you're an underaged smoker. You deserve to have your ass whooped because you broke the law willingly and you're now crying mother crying father over the situation that you got yourself into.
Yeah, a $330 fine will not change a stupid smoker. But it may change a smart smoker who realizes that it is a really small price to pay compared to getting lung cancer later on in life.
And yeah, Singapore law is stupid in a way. As we have seen from your post, a $330 fine doesn't work on morons. If I had it my way, I'd have people like you caned and thrown into reform school since you're too dumb to learn from a small $330 fine.
You can just learn a lesson worth $330 now, or you can pay for the lesson in years to come. Your grandmother got lucky; my uncle didn't. It's your choice.
Oh, and the freedom of choice extends to me too.
And I choose to point and laugh at you.
Originally posted by mancha:I find these questions strange.
You did not kena caught, and you are just asking IF you kena caught,
Or
The NEA officers approach you, ask for your NRIC, record your particulars, then walk away without saying another word.
I got caught.
The NEA officer smile smile show me his badge, ask me whether i know what ive done wrong, which i asnwered smoking?, then he say "no also got something else, littering", then he take down all my particular tell me wait for letter than he fly away. He also never tell me anything else. So im quite confused as to what dumb ass letter ill recieve lol.
Originally posted by fudgester:No, I didn't assume that you were a chain smoker. I just know that the earlier in life you start smoking, the higher the chance of you becoming a chain smoker eventually.
I also just made the observation that you're an underaged smoker. You deserve to have your ass whooped because you broke the law willingly and you're now crying mother crying father over the situation that you got yourself into.
Yeah, a $330 fine will not change a stupid smoker. But it may change a smart smoker who realizes that it is a really small price to pay compared to getting lung cancer later on in life.
And yeah, Singapore law is stupid in a way. As we have seen from your post, a $330 fine doesn't work on morons. If I had it my way, I'd have people like you caned and thrown into reform school since you're too dumb to learn from a small $330 fine.
You can just learn a lesson worth $330 now, or you can pay for the lesson in years to come. Your grandmother got lucky; my uncle didn't. It's your choice.
Oh, and the freedom of choice extends to me too.
And I choose to point and laugh at you.
You must feel really great laughing at peoples problems. I would wonder if your negative karma was transfered to your uncle in any sense. Xia suay mah, my ah ma smoke so long bo tai ji, your uncle smoke 20 years one day kana, then oops go to heaven. sorry loh.
You are no better than me, in fact worse, categorizing people by intelligence, please get a fucking life, to be classifying people by intelligence, your making singapores education system seem more brilliant, classifying people into Express and Normal. Seriously fuck that shit, seperating people by their level of intelligence gets you no where bitch, your only widening the social gap between the two creating more problems.
Smoking is against the law wiseguy but it isnt morally unjust, if you said i stole something from someone or got caught for fighting and ijuring someone, by all means point and laugh, but please dickshit you need to reflect your fucked up mindset.
Neither was i crying mother father, i just wanted to know what the shit ill be facing so i can answer to my family which i deeply regret disappointing, but if its a choice i made i will take responsibility for my actions, and its not possible to hide it forever either, but being underaged just makes it harder to answer for my actions.
simple and quick. whatever has happened, you cant change it, what you can do is find out where you went wrong and make the necessary changes. i dont care if you are 13 or 17, you are still underage. why do you want to smoke? its like going up to someone and say, "torture me slowly till i die." so many people out there want to quit but can't but you on the other hand are doing otherwise. And ive skimmed through your replies and i notice you are scolding people for giving you advice, so what if they replied you with crap. this is a forum hence everyone has a right to post what they want. you are asking for advice, we are, at least i'm giving it to you. just remember this, and quit. if not, go on and die slowly, i know its hard. I was a smoker and still am one. are you working now? do you know how much $$ you will spend on cigarettes in long term? if you dont heed this advice, no one can help you, only yourself.
Originally posted by bl1995cy:simple and quick. whatever has happened, you cant change it, what you can do is find out where you went wrong and make the necessary changes. i dont care if you are 13 or 17, you are still underage. why do you want to smoke? its like going up to someone and say, "torture me slowly till i die." so many people out there want to quit but can't but you on the other hand are doing otherwise. And ive skimmed through your replies and i notice you are scolding people for giving you advice, so what if they replied you with crap. this is a forum hence everyone has a right to post what they want. you are asking for advice, we are, at least i'm giving it to you. just remember this, and quit. if not, go on and die slowly, i know its hard. I was a smoker and still am one. are you working now? do you know how much $$ you will spend on cigarettes in long term? if you dont heed this advice, no one can help you, only yourself.
Haha as you said, you skimmed, i did not scold anybody but fudgester, i just merely replied with an objective stand, but thanks anyway. Like ive said, ive got my own reasons for doing my own things. For others, i cannot speak on their behalf. And one thing seriously guys, smoking and death, youve got to stop correlating the two. Almost whatever we do leads us to dying slowly, its just that smoking has been more publicicized on.
be very scare cos they going to call up ur parents and they going to give u 12 strokes of caning to ur butt for underage smoking and still act so sia lan by flicking cigg onto the floor. After caning ur parents will whack ur butt to add on to ur pain be very scare ah meng
im free this evening so i decide to argue with you:D. well i skimmed though and i saw u scolded someone. "i did not scold anybody but fudgester, i just merely replied with an objective stand" wow i didnt know that fudgester is not a person. if so, how did you not scold anybody unless fudgester's cat helped him reply? very smart. try telling the police you never smoke, you only smoke at home. "Almost whatever we do leads us to dying slowly, its just that smoking has been more publicicized on." So i understand from what you have said, smoking is one of the causes, and you are still smoking. no one can force you to do something, but since you have asked for advice, the best thing you can do is to heed our advice.
Originally posted by bl1995cy:im free this evening so i decide to argue with you:D. well i skimmed though and i saw u scolded someone. "i did not scold anybody but fudgester, i just merely replied with an objective stand" wow i didnt know that fudgester is not a person. if so, how did you not scold anybody unless fudgester's cat helped him reply? very smart. try telling the police you never smoke, you only smoke at home. "Almost whatever we do leads us to dying slowly, its just that smoking has been more publicicized on." So i understand from what you have said, smoking is one of the causes, and you are still smoking. no one can force you to do something, but since you have asked for advice, the best thing you can do is to heed our advice.
Wow your a genius. I did not scold anybody but, did you not notice the but? If you need reference check dictionary.com my use of "but" was indicating as a reference he was being made an exemption, i think your really quite free. Sure you can say "except" was a better choice of words, but this isnt exactly the place to show off your level of english proficiency. And even if it was, i really dont think the phrase "i saw you scolded someone" is grammatically correct neither is it structured properly.
Originally posted by mlmersrlosers:be very scare cos they going to call up ur parents and they going to give u 12 strokes of caning to ur butt for underage smoking and still act so sia lan by flicking cigg onto the floor. After caning ur parents will whack ur butt to add on to ur pain be very scare ah meng
Whoa, im turned on, 12 strokes? I like. I hope it come in pattern. But anyway good joke. Thanks for lightening the mood up in here, that was really needed.
eh... xiaoming, ive read through your posts in the prev pages.
you sure the NEA guy who approached you isnt some psuedo prankster? Cause the scenario you describe... hmm.. quite unusual for a NEA officer. Fines are usually decided by the officer on the spot, no such thing as HQ for such a small case. (quite dodgy)
besides, im certain you're far aware of the consequences of smoking towards your health. Take this encounter as a slight hint or warning for an imminent predicament.
Originally posted by OHSheet:eh... xiaoming, ive read through your posts in the prev pages.
you sure the NEA guy who approached you isnt some psuedo prankster? Cause the scenario you describe... hmm.. quite unusual for a NEA officer. Fines are usually decided by the officer on the spot, no such thing as HQ for such a small case. (quite dodgy)
besides, im certain you're far aware of the consequences of smoking towards your health. Take this encounter as a slight hint or warning for an imminent predicament.
Im pretty sure, he got the NEA badge, no mistake one, some more outside school only. And yes what you said is what ive heard from a lot of people as well. But ive heard too many variations for any of this to make sense at all lol. So yeah, but thanks, appreciated.
And im not sure if this is actually considered small lol. Underaged smoking + littering. I mean its not like robbery and assault, but its a pretty big deal to most people as you can see lol.
Originally posted by Xiaoming7:Im pretty sure, he got the NEA badge, no mistake one, some more outside school only. And yes what you said is what ive heard from a lot of people as well. But ive heard too many variations for any of this to make sense at all lol. So yeah, but thanks, appreciated.
And im not sure if this is actually considered small lol. Underaged smoking + littering. I mean its not like robbery and assault, but its a pretty big deal to most people as you can see lol.
hmm.. if got badge that means real officer. honestly, ive never heard of ppl being fined for throwing cig on the floor. you really damn suay, wrong place wrong time.*I mean small case as in, you only 1 person, not like 1 big gang.* btw, i think underaged smoking is pretty serious, and littering might get you into CWO (at the worst).
Im also surprised that the fine for littering is much heavier than that of underaged smoking, despite, in terms of the law, underaged smoking outweighs littering.
besides, your parents know about it already? (as in NEA call your house/send any mail)?
Originally posted by OHSheet:hmm.. if got badge that means real officer. honestly, ive never heard of ppl being fined for throwing cig on the floor. you really damn suay, wrong place wrong time.*I mean small case as in, you only 1 person, not like 1 big gang.* btw, i think underaged smoking is pretty serious, and littering might get you into CWO (at the worst).
Im also surprised that the fine for littering is much heavier than that of underaged smoking, despite, in terms of the law, underaged smoking outweighs littering.
besides, your parents know about it already? (as in NEA call your house/send any mail)?
Not yet, im just gambling with my luck that the guy will be nice enough to let me off with just littering. And hopefully its just a warning letter, but ive approached the counsellors in my school, and well they are doing what they can. I mean, theres still a line they cant cross, cause basically the school doesnt allow some things, and theres only so much they can do lol.
Originally posted by Xiaoming7:Not yet, im just gambling with my luck that the guy will be nice enough to let me off with just littering. And hopefully its just a warning letter, but ive approached the counsellors in my school, and well they are doing what they can. I mean, theres still a line they cant cross, cause basically the school doesnt allow some things, and theres only so much they can do lol.
honestly, school cant protect you much. Unless you have a record of good behavior, conduct, from teachers. The NEA will most likely (if they decide to charge you), talk to your teachers in school (eg, form teacher, eng teacher) maybe principal(if he knows you). Then the school will contact your parents. (if they decide to). im speaking from what i know.
NEA can most probably do anything, from dropping the charges to putting you up for CWO. NEA is part of the gov, and schooling, MOE, is also part of the gov. Age doesnt really matter, for there is a juvenile court in sg for underaged offenders.
just be prepared anyway. sg law is known for going down harsh on offenders. careful.
Originally posted by OHSheet:honestly, school cant protect you much. Unless you have a record of good behavior, conduct, from teachers. The NEA will most likely (if they decide to charge you), talk to your teachers in school (eg, form teacher, eng teacher) maybe principal(if he knows you). Then the school will contact your parents. (if they decide to). im speaking from what i know.
NEA can most probably do anything, from dropping the charges to putting you up for CWO. NEA is part of the gov, and schooling, MOE, is also part of the gov. Age doesnt really matter, for there is a juvenile court in sg for underaged offenders.
just be prepared anyway. sg law is known for going down harsh on offenders. careful.
yeah thats what the guys back in school told me too. haha, but thanks. And its not CWO and the fine im scared of, like i said, its just that i dont want to disappoint my family. Nothing else in particular, im responsible for my own actions.
Btw im in poly, so i dun think theres anyway the principal would know me, i dun even know what my prinicpals name is lol.
Originally posted by fudgester:No, I didn't assume that you were a chain smoker. I just know that the earlier in life you start smoking, the higher the chance of you becoming a chain smoker eventually.
I also just made the observation that you're an underaged smoker. You deserve to have your ass whooped because you broke the law willingly and you're now crying mother crying father over the situation that you got yourself into.
Yeah, a $330 fine will not change a stupid smoker. But it may change a smart smoker who realizes that it is a really small price to pay compared to getting lung cancer later on in life.
And yeah, Singapore law is stupid in a way. As we have seen from your post, a $330 fine doesn't work on morons. If I had it my way, I'd have people like you caned and thrown into reform school since you're too dumb to learn from a small $330 fine.
You can just learn a lesson worth $330 now, or you can pay for the lesson in years to come. Your grandmother got lucky; my uncle didn't. It's your choice.
Oh, and the freedom of choice extends to me too.
And I choose to point and laugh at you.
Eh bro.. I would not quit smoking even if I was caught littering and fined $300, are you saying I'm stupid smoker?
Thank goodness I don't even litter
Originally posted by Xiaoming7:I got caught.
The NEA officer smile smile show me his badge, ask me whether i know what ive done wrong, which i asnwered smoking?, then he say "no also got something else, littering", then he take down all my particular tell me wait for letter than he fly away. He also never tell me anything else. So im quite confused as to what dumb ass letter ill recieve lol.
Notice to attend court for the offence of littering. The date is set by the court, not NEA thats why cannot give you the notice on the spot. The NEA officer should have explained that too to you. But letting you know the offence is sufficient.
Don't worry about smoking, lah.
You only cannot buy cigarettes, or liquor.
Except for your parent's and school principal's law, there is no statute law for under-aged consumption ... yet.
The topic here has gone off tangent into smoking, it should be littering.
You contributed one piece, to the millions of rubbish that needs to be swept up daily.
Honestly, smoking dun really cause cancer. Mostly the air that we inhale consist of carbon monoxide, foreign oxidents, pollens and blah blah blah.
Most of my relative, friends or colleagues, died of lung cancer. Out of 10 of them, only 2 were smokers. So therefore, how to explain of the rest getting lung cancer not smokers??? From 2nd hand smokers, some would say. "Not really" would be my reply, the answers is above(see also in 1st para). I am a 35yr old smoker myself and started since I was, like, 17yrs old. Had a buddy, same age and started smoking at 19, had smokers' cough. BTW, I am a heavy smoker at abt 20 cigs per day and also smoking Ang Hoon. My buddy is a light smoker with less than 10 cigs per day. As Xiaoming put it this way, when your time is up...means up. Sometimes, it depends on ur genectic structures of ur DNA. ANYWAY...back to the topic here.
Hey Xiaoming, wanna share this with u. On Thurs, 3rd Dec, I was kenna stopped my 2 NEA plain clothes. Showed my their cards (the colour was kinda pale yellowish/orangy) One Indian, one Chinese. Chinese stopped me, flash badge and ask for my IC. I told them I got no time and need to rush of to take the MRT(3mins to arrival) to work, but thats juz a BS to them to excuse myself. Abt to take out IC, my Boss call and tell them I need to take the call from my Boss. "But Sir, I still need ur IC", Chinese guy said. "Ya wait, I really need to take this call from my Boss and needed to rush off". And then I jabot thru the MRT gates and vanish from thier sight. Cool or not. . i think they got a bit stun.
So how ah? I heard that they got take picture if u siam them and will ambush u next time and tio double, ah? Hope not leh. Now I must siam that nearest MRT stn. Dang it NEA.
Thinking back, as times are bad, scarly, they r fake one, meh, and juz want to scare and extort $$$ from me, how? Or maybe, suucar suucar, take down my particulars and later go borrow $$$$ from Ah Long. I remember got one malayu couple smoke and throw the butts in the drain full of ciggy buts, but they nvr tio stop...and, CB, I suay suay tio. Walau, jin eh tio beh sai or ToTo. i think they see colour one. F them lah.
Originally posted by Detached:
Eh bro.. I would not quit smoking even if I was caught littering and fined $300, are you saying I'm stupid smoker?Thank goodness I don't even litter
Same here, bro. Ciggies are my best friends and nvr had letted me down. They solved 85% of my problems or stress.
"Got stress, sit back, take a puff and relax"
if the Gov wanna curb all these (smoking related) littering, underaged or whatever problems, why dun they ban ciggies in the first place, like they did to chewing gum??? Logic or not. Issit that they can earn billions from ciggies every year? Or scared that Ang Mohs, Expats or Tourist who are smokers would NOT want to come into here, juz bcoz the Gov'y banned smoking???
As for littering, who can avoid if they had impliment more Bins. Some places like the stretch Orchard Road. You can see alot of Bins. Other places, ha, not even one in sight. Maybe the Gov'y wanna save some cost, or the Bins keneh kooped by Karung Guni. Some littering cases, are genuine. example, some ppl cannot find Bins to throw their used tissues or sweet wrappers, put it inside their pockets. But, when they want to take something out, like coins, from their pockets, the litter from it fall out without them realising it, and tio fine. Explain or appeal also no use. NEA want ur money to pay for advertisements. I tot our country got alot of $$$$$$$$$$$. So where did it goes? Wanna save for war? For what??? WE ARE ONE PEOPLE!!! Human beings should not fight against one another.
eeeehhh...sry ah. off topic.
im glad you know am a genius, obviously you're just a kid who thinks too highly of himself. if really your english is that superb, you wouldn't be here, you ought to be teaching overseas.
Originally posted by Gerald lkc:Honestly, smoking dun really cause cancer. Mostly the air that we inhale consist of carbon monoxide, foreign oxidents, pollens and blah blah blah.
Most of my relative, friends or colleagues, died of lung cancer. Out of 10 of them, only 2 were smokers. So therefore, how to explain of the rest getting lung cancer not smokers??? From 2nd hand smokers, some would say. "Not really" would be my reply, the answers is above(see also in 1st para). I am a 35yr old smoker myself and started since I was, like, 17yrs old. Had a buddy, same age and started smoking at 19, had smokers' cough. BTW, I am a heavy smoker at abt 20 cigs per day and also smoking Ang Hoon. My buddy is a light smoker with less than 10 cigs per day. As Xiaoming put it this way, when your time is up...means up. Sometimes, it depends on ur genectic structures of ur DNA. ANYWAY...back to the topic here.
Hey Xiaoming, wanna share this with u. On Thurs, 3rd Dec, I was kenna stopped my 2 NEA plain clothes. Showed my their cards (the colour was kinda pale yellowish/orangy) One Indian, one Chinese. Chinese stopped me, flash badge and ask for my IC. I told them I got no time and need to rush of to take the MRT(3mins to arrival) to work, but thats juz a BS to them to excuse myself. Abt to take out IC, my Boss call and tell them I need to take the call from my Boss. "But Sir, I still need ur IC", Chinese guy said. "Ya wait, I really need to take this call from my Boss and needed to rush off". And then I jabot thru the MRT gates and vanish from thier sight. Cool or not. . i think they got a bit stun.
So how ah? I heard that they got take picture if u siam them and will ambush u next time and tio double, ah? Hope not leh. Now I must siam that nearest MRT stn. Dang it NEA.
Thinking back, as times are bad, scarly, they r fake one, meh, and juz want to scare and extort $$$ from me, how? Or maybe, suucar suucar, take down my particulars and later go borrow $$$$ from Ah Long. I remember got one malayu couple smoke and throw the butts in the drain full of ciggy buts, but they nvr tio stop...and, CB, I suay suay tio. Walau, jin eh tio beh sai or ToTo. i think they see colour one. F them lah.
Lol thanks for the story bro, but srsly la, super suay n i also think they see color one lor knn, so many ppl throw at one shot only i tio arrow, damn cb. But i think that one seirous one la, i still waiting for the bomb (s) to arrive in my mailbox lol.
Originally posted by mancha:
Don't worry about smoking, lah.
You only cannot buy cigarettes, or liquor.
Except for your parent's and school principal's law, there is no statute law for under-aged consumption ... yet.
if thats the case why's there HSA officers going around to catch people who's underaged?