Keep your SG Citizenship?
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For males, those who are currently out of Singapore, are you still a Singaporean or have your renouced it and claimed another citizenship?
Without renouncing, what about your liable taxes as well as reservist?
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to hell with it all....................
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Originally posted by Agenda:
For males, those who are currently out of Singapore, are you still a Singaporean or have your renouced it and claimed another citizenship?
Without renouncing, what about your liable taxes as well as reservist?
I got my "green card" in '93 and decided to submit to the naturalization process in July of '07, which culminated in my becoming a US citizen in February of '08.
Yes, I shall admit that I have been too lazy to initiate the SG citizenship renunciation process. I still have my SG passport, and I hear they fetch a princely sum on the black market.
As I was out of the country continuously right after the completion of my NS, I was never called back for reservist duty. However, I had to renew my Exit Permit annually, which was a real hassle up until the expiration of my reservist obligations.
No SG tax liabilities here--why in blazes would I want to pay taxes to the SG gabrament on incomed earned in the US???
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Originally posted by Gattlinggun80:
to hell with it all....................
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Originally posted by Agenda:
For males, those who are currently out of Singapore, are you still a Singaporean or have your renouced it and claimed another citizenship?
Without renouncing, what about your liable taxes as well as reservist?
Sounds like you're thinking of doing the deed....
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Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:
I got my "green card" in '93 and decided to submit to the naturalization process in July of '07, which culminated in my becoming a US citizen in February of '08.
Yes, I shall admit that I have been too lazy to initiate the SG citizenship renunciation process. I still have my SG passport, and I hear they fetch a princely sum on the black market.
As I was out of the country continuously right after the completion of my NS, I was never called back for reservist duty. However, I had to renew my Exit Permit annually, which was a real hassle up until the expiration of my reservist obligations.
No SG tax liabilities here--why in blazes would I want to pay taxes to the SG gabrament on incomed earned in the US???
Yes, I totally agree. Renewing EP every year is simply annoying.
How many years have you been doing this? Have they ever asked you to show documentary proof of PR status/ employment etc. I know a few guys who renewed for a couple of years then MINDEF started requesting for documentary proof.
Not that they do not have the proof, it just increases the hassle.
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Originally posted by Fortmax777:
Yes, I totally agree. Renewing EP every year is simply annoying.
How many years have you been doing this? Have they ever asked you to show documentary proof of PR status/ employment etc. I know a few guys who renewed for a couple of years then MINDEF started requesting for documentary proof.
Not that they do not have the proof, it just increases the hassle.
I had been doing that since '89, when I came stateside to study. After I started working here, I had to furnish documentary proof of my employment status with every annual EP renewal. Even after I had informed the SAF of my PR status and requested 3-year validity periods on my EPs, they still issued them with annual expirations.I can't remember the exact time frame, but I actually went without renewing my EP for a couple of years because I outright forgot. I did not travel to Singapore during these two years and, surprisingly, the SAF did not send any renewal reminders either to me or my parents in Singapore. When I finally did renew it, they did not give me any trouble.
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meia....didja try flyin back to spore??were ya handcuffed at changi airport as a rude surprise?
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Originally posted by Gattlinggun80:
meia....didja try flyin back to spore??were ya handcuffed at changi airport as a rude surprise?
Nope. The SAF (surprisingly) did not give me grief when I finally got round to renewing the EP after letting it lapse for two years, and on my subsequent trip back to SG, no questions were asked at the airport.
Perhaps I just got lucky?
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I'm comtemplating whether it would be plausible for me to leave Singapore after completing my Uni for Japan to work and possibly coming back to Singapore for the festive seasons and such.
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can i check with you folks....my spouse is a SPR. if subsequently, he's gotten his green card...can he still maintain his SPR status? if both of us were to give up our singapore citizenship (for me) & SPR (for him)....can we still maintain property and other investments in singapore? will they make us withdraw our CPF monies too?
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Originally posted by lostintransition:
can i check with you folks....my spouse is a SPR. if subsequently, he's gotten his green card...can he still maintain his SPR status? if both of us were to give up our singapore citizenship (for me) & SPR (for him)....can we still maintain property and other investments in singapore? will they make us withdraw our CPF monies too?
Take a look at the USCIS website here about "green card" application requirements and procedures.
There is no requirement by the USCIS for green card applicants to relinquish their existing residency/citizenship statuses. Your spouse should still be able to maintain his SPR status after he gets his green card, and I doubt he's under any obligation to inform the SG government about the green card.
Don't know if you can maintain property and other investments in SG if you're no longer citizens or PRs of that country--perhaps someone else can chime in.
You can withdraw your CPF monies if you renounce your SG citizenship, but I doubt the CPF board will be constantly hounding and reminding you to do so.
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thanks MG. that's great news actually...my spouse thought he'd have to give up his SPR if he were to obtain the green card. in any case...i think it's prob easier to get back his SPR if he wants to than to obtain the green card....yes?
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Who here got overseas lobang?
Me want to emigrate
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Originally posted by lostintransition:
thanks MG. that's great news actually...my spouse thought he'd have to give up his SPR if he were to obtain the green card. in any case...i think it's prob easier to get back his SPR if he wants to than to obtain the green card....yes?
You can hang on to both, you know.
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i didn't know that until MG mentioned. all along....i thot if get green card means must give up SPR. it's very good news indeed
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Hi,I am a green card holder since 2007. Is there a way to hold on to the Singaporean citizenship and get the US citizenship?
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Originally posted by spencer99:
Hi,I am a green card holder since 2007. Is there a way to hold on to the Singaporean citizenship and get the US citizenship?
The Singapore gabrament does not need to know about your having acquired US citizenship, and the USCIS does not inform them of your new status.And in case you're wondering, the US implicitly recognizes dual-citizenship as it does not require renunciation of your previous one as a prerequisite for naturalization, despite what the Oath of Allegiance that you take at your naturalization ceremony says.
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but for singapore...they do not allow for dual citizenship? if we just don't ask, don't tell.....will we get into trouble with the SG gahmen if they find out?
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Originally posted by lostintransition:
but for singapore...they do not allow for dual citizenship? if we just don't ask, don't tell.....will we get into trouble with the SG gahmen if they find out?
The Singapore gabrament currently does not allow dual citizenship, but I have read and heard of rumours that they might allow it sometime in the near future to slow the outflow of emigrating Singaporeans.
If you keep your Singapore issued documents (passport, IC, exit permit, etc.) current, I seriously doubt the Singapore government would know or care about your acquisition of US citizenship. You would, of course, have to use your US passport for travel to Singapore as you would no longer have your green card for re-entry into the US as a PR, and I don't think having "Singapore" listed as your country of birth on your US passport would raise any red flags or subject you to additional scrutiny.
If the Singapore gabrament is alerted to your dual-citizenship by your doing something silly (like using your US passport to leave the US and then, inadvertently or otherwise, handing your Singapore passport to the immigration officer upon arrival at Changi Airport), you can always claim that you're making the trip there to renounce your Singapore citizenship. -
Thanks for the note....
So for the dual-citizenship crowd, they will actually use the US passport to both leave US and enter SG when they travel between the countries....
I am wondering with the biometrics and so on, the 'system' should be able to read my fingerprint etc and determine that I (entering as a US citizen) is actually also a SG citizen....
anyway... wondering whether anyone actually really tried it (and will admit it here).
Oh yeah... when you 'renew' your SG passport, there is a need to sign a declaration that I am not a citizen of any other country.... wife just renewed her passport and we read the clause... doesn't apply to us now but might apply to us in the future.
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The standard procedure for people with dual citizenships is to use country A's passport to leave country A and then country B's passport to enter country B
Many countries that allow dual citizenship will require citizens to use that country's passport when entering or leaving the country. These includes the US and Australia. I believe Singapore actually may have a similar law. (The exception to this rule is the UK, which actually does not insist that its citizens enter and leave on a UK passport)..
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Originally posted by John nyc 71:
The standard procedure for people with dual citizenships is to use country A's passport to leave country A and then country B's passport to enter country B
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That might work if countries A and B both recognize dual citizenship.
However, if you leave the US using your US passport and enter Singapore with your Singapore passport, the lack of an electronic "exit stamp" on your Singapore passport indicating your departure from the US might raise a red flag with Singapore Immigration and subject you to additional and unwanted scrutiny.
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Countries like the UK or the US don't even have exit checks, so I would be highly doubtful if there is an electronic exit stamp attached to one's passport leaving these countries. (Besides, why would the UK or the US share this data with SG)?
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Here is the law I was referring to (it is interesting that Singapore has such a law despite its stance on dual nationality - it actually states "whether or not the person is also th national of a country other than Singapore")
Person entering or leaving Singapore to produce passport, etc.
5A. —(1) Subject to subsection (3), every person, whether a citizen of Singapore or a non-citizen, who is arriving in Singapore (by air, sea or land) from a place outside Singapore, or is leaving Singapore (by air, sea or land) to a place outside Singapore, shall present to an immigration officer at the authorised airport, authorised landing place, authorised train checkpoint, authorised point of entry, authorised departing place or authorised point of departure, as the case may be —- (a)
if the person is a citizen of Singapore (whether
or not the person is also the national of a country other than Singapore) — the
person’s Singapore passport that is valid, and any other prescribed
evidence of the person’s identity and Singapore citizenship;
or