Any Overseas Singaporeans relocate back to Singapore
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Originally posted by Fatum:
what about the children ....
children are a lot more resilent to changes when they are younger .....
Jus wondering if pets from temperate weather will adapt to the weather in S'pore. If I return, my cat will also return -
I think coming from SG and returning back to SG does have some adjustment to do and accept its environment. But over time you can adjust to it.
Personnally i find that both age and career level is a serious consideration from settling to different countries. Why don't you considered You n your hubby age, career level. And ask yourself if after 4 to 6 yrs down road you decided that going back to Aust is a better choice. Do you still have time to swing it around and start all over again and not have to gave up too much. There is always a trade off. Good luck.
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Originally posted by Tammiemeow:
65% pay cut is a big leap... Heard stories of cheap cheap foreign talents flooding IT, even in govt depts...
I wouldn't say govt depts ... infact, most of the interviews I got after I came back were from goverment depts, goverment linked coms, or private coms doing lots of govt work ....
they seem to be the only people hiring only singaporeans ... i guess because they have no choice ....
and forget about bringing puss back ... it'll be too much of a shock for the moggy ...
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i can't relocate back to singapore.. chefs don't make a penny there.
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Originally posted by Tammiemeow:
Well, I was thinking of doing nursing, when I saw my dad on his deathbed in a private hospital in S'pore, full of foreign talents, and not being able to communicate properly with him. Seriously, I think SGH was so much better as compared to those expensive private hospital. I was surfing the internet for getting started in a nursing course. But I am totally lost and do not know where to start. Do I start with a cewrt in Nursing?
nursing in sg you need hospital to sponsor. Hospital sponsor they look at your age. if not you pay on your own.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
I think coming from SG and returning back to SG does have some adjustment to do and accept its environment. But over time you can adjust to it.
Personnally i find that both age and career level is a serious consideration from settling to different countries. Why don't you considered You n your hubby age, career level. And ask yourself if after 4 to 6 yrs down road you decided that going back to Aust is a better choice. Do you still have time to swing it around and start all over again and not have to gave up too much. There is always a trade off. Good luck.
My initial plan was to work here and earn all the $$$, then retire in S'pore.... Now it seems that things dun always go the way we want. Hubby is an accountant, so should be quite mobile. Me in marcom has limited career span. That's why I was thinking that I will work full time in S'pore, and take up Nursing Dip part time. Wonder if they offer part time course
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Originally posted by Tammiemeow:
My initial plan was to work here and earn all the $$$, then retire in S'pore.... Now it seems that things dun always go the way we want. Hubby is an accountant, so should be quite mobile. Me in marcom has limited career span. That's why I was thinking that I will work full time in S'pore, and take up Nursing Dip part time. Wonder if they offer part time course
i think it is always what we want and what is actual you might want to get more info before planning. Such as :there is no such thing as a part time nursing course. And age is a factor for this job. Nursing is not a subject that you study at your time. You have to spend certain among of hours in the hospital.
I am also not sure how realistics it is to retired in a city state environment. SG is a city state that change constantly so long term planning needs review.
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Originally posted by ben1406:
i can't relocate back to singapore.. chefs don't make a penny there.
once sat in a Taxi in SG learned that the guy had just return to Sg. he worked as a cook in the US for 10 years. A partner in resturant. I think he kinda of get lost in the kitchen and rtun to SG to see if life was better. So he drove Taxi to check things out.I think at the end of the day you have to prepare to open up your place to allow continuing income till you drop dead. And i think these days it is universal, cause i don't think there is a job that can hold u till your retirement age at 65. Or even at 65 you may not be able to stay out of jobs.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
i think it is always what we want and what is actual you might want to get more info before planning. Such as :there is no such thing as a part time nursing course. And age is a factor for this job. Nursing is not a subject that you study at your time. You have to spend certain among of hours in the hospital.
I am also not sure how realistics it is to retired in a city state environment. SG is a city state that change constantly so long term planning needs review.
Hi Arapahoe
I am more of a city person. I missed the colourful 24 hours life in Singapore. Still remember those days when I can hang out with kakis the whole night and feel secured. Will never get to enjoy this in Melbourne....
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Originally posted by Tammiemeow:
Hi Arapahoe
I am more of a city person. I missed the colourful 24 hours life in Singapore. Still remember those days when I can hang out with kakis the whole night and feel secured. Will never get to enjoy this in Melbourne....
ha ha ha just like my wife. -
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
once sat in a Taxi in SG learned that the guy had just return to Sg. he worked as a cook in the US for 10 years. A partner in resturant. I think he kinda of get lost in the kitchen and rtun to SG to see if life was better. So he drove Taxi to check things out.I think at the end of the day you have to prepare to open up your place to allow continuing income till you drop dead. And i think these days it is universal, cause i don't think there is a job that can hold u till your retirement age at 65. Or even at 65 you may not be able to stay out of jobs.
only 3 options for chefs really who are above the age of 50. be a culinary teacher, open your own place or become a executive chef of a chain restaurants where chefs go to die but earn a shit load of money..
most of us get burnt out by 50.. for me ? i want to be a culinary teacher..
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Originally posted by ben1406:
only 3 options for chefs really who are above the age of 50. be a culinary teacher, open your own place or become a executive chef of a chain restaurants where chefs go to die but earn a shit load of money..
most of us get burnt out by 50.. for me ? i want to be a culinary teacher..
agreed i think alot of them get burn by 50;s ever thought about opening your place in Vegas. I think it is a great place to open up a fancy place.why be a culinary teacher where you can be a culinary cooking show.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
agreed i think alot of them get burn by 50;s ever thought about opening your place in Vegas. I think it is a great place to open up a fancy place.why be a culinary teacher where you can be a culinary cooking show.
i want to work in vegas to get the exp.. alot of great chefs have restaurants there. Joel Robuchon, Daniel Boulad, Wolfgang Puck, etc etc...
If i decide to open a place it would prob be in Toronto or Niagara-by-the-lake. I can't be a host on tv, camera shy.. I kinda like teaching.
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Originally posted by ben1406:
i want to work in vegas to get the exp.. alot of great chefs have restaurants there. Joel Robuchon, Daniel Boulad, Wolfgang Puck, etc etc...
If i decide to open a place it would prob be in Toronto or Niagara-by-the-lake. I can't be a host on tv, camera shy.. I kinda like teaching.
Wolfgang puck always packed, so my wife n i went to this other restaurant that served very very very tiny dish. That cost over US$200. almost walked to the buffet next store after dinner. ....... -
What's the chance for you to get your mum to travel between Singapore and Australia (like stay here for up to 3 months) if she doesn't want to live here for good?
While I understand your good intention of looking after your mum, you need to learn to let your siblings over in Singapore to share the responsibility. It makes little difference when you go home as you'll be working most days.
Please don't get me wrong and I don't mean to sound selfish but you need to think about your husband too. Once you're married, you should devote yourself to your husband and your marriage. It doesn't mean to completely cut your tie with your family but your marriage and husband should be your priority.
Instead of just moving back to Singapore for good, you can always take sometime off to go home to be with your mum.
I hope everything works out for you in the end. I am sure it'll. Take care!
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
I enjoy too much freedom and rather fantastic flexibility at work here that I can never EVER dream of enjoying back in Singapore. Nah... I won't head back... no way, José!
Ah good.. at least I have somewhere to visit when I am in Melbourne...
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Originally posted by Tammiemeow:
Hi Arapahoe
I am more of a city person. I missed the colourful 24 hours life in Singapore. Still remember those days when I can hang out with kakis the whole night and feel secured. Will never get to enjoy this in Melbourne....
yet in Adelaide, one can enjoy great wineries and the wonderful countryside with quaint cafes just 45min away from the city, can't do that in Sg. Plus produce is so much cheaper and fresher. There are spots where one can hang out late the whole night and feel secure... at home or at a friends place... LOL!
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Originally posted by ben1406:
i can't relocate back to singapore.. chefs don't make a penny there.
yet you could come here and make lots... hehehe. How are you by the way?
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
yet you could come here and make lots... hehehe. How are you by the way?
aus ? i tried apply for jobs there.. had one offer but i didn't like the concept of the restaurant.
me ? tired, just started working for a new restaurant. 200++ seater place in toronto. stressed up and tired. hahaha ! how about yourself ?
i needddddd a holiday soon ! okie, got to for classes now..
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Originally posted by honeymouse:
What's the chance for you to get your mum to travel between Singapore and Australia (like stay here for up to 3 months) if she doesn't want to live here for good?
While I understand your good intention of looking after your mum, you need to learn to let your siblings over in Singapore to share the responsibility. It makes little difference when you go home as you'll be working most days.
Please don't get me wrong and I don't mean to sound selfish but you need to think about your husband too. Once you're married, you should devote yourself to your husband and your marriage. It doesn't mean to completely cut your tie with your family but your marriage and husband should be your priority.
Instead of just moving back to Singapore for good, you can always take sometime off to go home to be with your mum.
I hope everything works out for you in the end. I am sure it'll. Take care!
Hi Honeymouse, thanx. My mum would not want to leave my two brothers alone. In fact one of my brothers gave up a very good job in Mel to relocate back. (He has another good job in S'pore, so no loss for him). However, my mum always come back to an empty house and have dinner alone. And she is more dependent on me to get things done. I have to call a few times daily. When I ask her why she cannot get either of my bros to do things, she will said, "cannot depend on them, they MIA". grrrr.
Between last June till now, I had flown back to S'pore 6 times.. Luckily I have a great boss. I resign from my job, but boss and director said they will take it that I will be coming back someday...big???
My hubby is very understanding. Told me to go. He said in life, when we have to do something, we have to. He will be joining me once he completes his CPA program.
I feel kind of sad to leave Mel, and was delaying my trip back. But, when mum called and complained about the state of the house, the paperwork of dad's estate still incomplete for the last 6 months, guess I have no choice. She said, "when you come back, you settle everything hor"....I dun have the heart to tell her, I am sad to leave Mel.
Maybe, I will take ur advice and spend some time there and see how things go.
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Originally posted by ben1406:
aus ? i tried apply for jobs there.. had one offer but i didn't like the concept of the restaurant.
me ? tired, just started working for a new restaurant. 200++ seater place in toronto. stressed up and tired. hahaha ! how about yourself ?
i needddddd a holiday soon ! okie, got to for classes now..
I need a holiday soon too... pretty tired myself.... and sometimes addicted to facebook... not good.
Why don't you let me know when you have finished and we can see about something, maybe... Currently looking to open a grill and steakhouse, will see. Hope you get some needed R&R.
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
I need a holiday soon too... pretty tired myself.... and sometimes addicted to facebook... not good.
Why don't you let me know when you have finished and we can see about something, maybe... Currently looking to open a grill and steakhouse, will see. Hope you get some needed R&R.
been wanting to go for a camping trip or to latin america for a holiday.. but my gf and myself are moving to a new place soon so need to save to money for new stuff for the apartment.
grill and steakhouse ? you can never go wrong with that really.. i'll msg pvt.
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
Ah good.. at least I have somewhere to visit when I am in Melbourne...
When are you coming over? I can't board you because I don't have an extra room, but I can meet you and bring you and your wifey around and makan! 
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I feel that your mom doesn't really need you there except for company and to settle a few issues.
The only reason why she doesn't want to move to Melbourne is because she's bored? Frankly, you have to think of your future. It will be hard to expect you to move back to Singapore and be happy if you're accustomed to the lifestyle here. Boredom can be easily solved, but career, pace of life and employee benefits are things that you really need to consider.
Your mom has to learn to be independant. She's playing the "I need you, daughter!" card and making you feel guilty.
I'd say take a few months to return and be with her, but you do have to consider, in the long run, would you and your husband prefer to live in Melbourne, or in Singapore? Thank God my mom is independant. She and dad are enjoying their semi-retirement and they relish the idea of me being over here so that when I eventually get my own place, they can come and stay with me now and then. She and dad have foresight too and they are saying stuff like maybe in future, I can help my bro and his family migrate here when life in Singapore becomes unbearable. And I've told her that when my baby niece grows up, if she wants to, she can come over to Melbourne to study and I'll look after her food and lodging.
Sometimes, you have to learn to be firm. It's not that you're being unfilial but you can take care of your mom over here just the same. She has to consider that you and your husband have your entire lives ahead of you!
Besides, look around you - there are many Asian grandma's and grandpa's who moved here with their children and they somehow manage to find their own niche here.
Think about this carefully. Do you really want to give it all up to return to Singapore? It's not cheap to move there and back and vice versa.
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Check this out :
http://www.overseassingaporean.sg/cms/index.php/portal/gen/gen_returning_home
Hopefully, you can find some useful info therein.
Rhonda wrote a very significant piece so please give it a serious thought! Good luck with your decision.