Would you?
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Give up your Sg pp?
I'm not that brave.
I still have my mother there and my flat. The thought of visiting Sg on a foreign passport and having to be there for only the required time allowed just makes me feel funny. I've been away for many years but I have a soft spot for Sg. -
i have met SG who stay here in LA since early 70's and they still get in touch with SG n feel strongly about it. But I believe they are US citizen. i do not think that you need to gave up the emotional ties just because u take up a different passport.
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Hmmm... I wonder if this thread was inspired by the chat jetta and I had in SB earlier today.
My two sisters have been living in California since the 80s and are married to Americans; both have opted to hold on to their Singapore citizenships for whatever reason and are still PRs.
I've been living continuously here since '89 and have been a PR since '93. Even though I qualified for citizenship status after being a PR for 5 years, I didn't feel the need to go through with the naturalization process. Why? I don't know, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't due to any kind of lingering emotional attachment to Singapore.
Last June, however, I took the plunge and initiated the naturalization process. This process will reach its logical conclusion early next month, when I recite the Oath of Allegiance with several hundred other immigrants at the state capitol.
I agree with Arapahoe's contention that relinquishing Singapore citizenship does not imply the severance of emotional ties with that country. One is, after all, still able to travel freely between the two countries. -
I didn't say one would have to give up emotional ties leh. I know of a Sg lady in Japan. I met her at a Starbucks stand on the base. She married a Japanese guy and gave up her Sg passport, only to divorce him years later. She wants to go back to Sg so badly but can't. I don't ever want to be her position.Originally posted by Arapahoe:i have met SG who stay here in LA since early 70's and they still get in touch with SG n feel strongly about it. But I believe they are US citizen. i do not think that you need to gave up the emotional ties just because u take up a different passport.
Personally, i would not gave up emotional ties but would most likely drop my passport.
In my case, I just can't bring myself to do the deed. -
There's still sum degree of respect that comes along when u flash that red passport overseas...if i were u i won't denounce it unless u r very sure u'll nvr come back to SG again...
Try getting PR in the other country 1st and keep yur SG citizenship...live there for a couple of years and then decide...you'll nvr knw when u might wanna come back... -
your kids hold both passports now right...?
and does your hubby have singapore PR...??
i think u should still keep it since u have a flat there and your mom is there!
there is a reason why my dad NEVER even thought about converting the family to singaporeans.
cos all the parents are in canada. -
Is this comment directed at me? Or to everyone in general?Originally posted by In_Between_Days:There's still sum degree of respect that comes along when u flash that red passport overseas...if i were u i won't denounce it unless u r very sure u'll nvr come back to SG again...
Try getting PR in the other country 1st and keep yur SG citizenship...live there for a couple of years and then decide...you'll nvr knw when u might wanna come back...
If it's at me, green card long done, sg pp still in my possession, been living overseas for years. -
Ah lah mak why u think of it this way!Originally posted by jetta:I didn't say one would have to give up emotional ties leh. I know of a Sg lady in Japan. I met her at a Starbucks stand on the base. She married a Japanese guy and gave up her Sg passport, only to divorce him years later. She wants to go back to Sg so badly but can't. I don't ever want to be her position.
In my case, I just can't bring myself to do the deed.
Assume worst case (touch wood) but your kids remain here, would u leave your kids n move back.
in any case if you plan to settle down here u have to be independent till the end. -
jetta,
Have you considered applying for US citizenship and retaining your Singapore citizenship?
The US naturalization oath requires one "to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen." In practice, however, this is not enforced and there is no legal requirement for the new citizen to take any formal steps to renounce his old citizenship.
Singapore currently does not allow dual citizenship, but they don't have to know that you've taken up US citizenship. -
i think she have a hard time seeing herself being an American.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:jetta,
Have you considered applying for US citizenship and retaining your Singapore citizenship?
The US naturalization oath requires one "to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen." In practice, however, this is not enforced and there is no legal requirement for the new citizen to take any formal steps to renounce his old citizenship.
Singapore currently does not allow dual citizenship, but they don't have to know that you've taken up US citizenship. -
Before I left Sg, I made the mistake of letting the Sg govt know that my kids are dual nationality. It's stamped in their Sg passportsOriginally posted by Meia Gisborn:jetta,
Have you considered applying for US citizenship and retaining your Singapore citizenship?
The US naturalization oath requires one "to renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen." In practice, however, this is not enforced and there is no legal requirement for the new citizen to take any formal steps to renounce his old citizenship.
Singapore currently does not allow dual citizenship, but they don't have to know that you've taken up US citizenship.
I was so green back then, this was like a decade or so ago. One of my good pals, her sister was a tua liap sai with SG Immigration and it was upon her advisement that I did the deed.
Someone PM'ed me to say that the Old Man is considering allowing for dual nationalities. True?
I do know of someone who still has both. This someone is an officer in the US Navy. She says Sg doesn't know she has two passports. -
I can understand your sentiment for SG, but is it possible to give up your citizenship in SG, get your citizenship in the states and return to SG and apply as a PR? (should one day you regret giving up your SG citizenship)Originally posted by jetta:Is this comment directed at me? Or to everyone in general?
If it's at me, green card long done, sg pp still in my possession, been living overseas for years. -
Word has it the Singapore PP commands a killer black market price....
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I've heard that too!Originally posted by VSE:Word has it the Singapore PP commands a killer black market price.... -
I had a question like this the other day. The problem those people who gave up their passports faced was people still classify them as overseas immigrants, as opposed to Americans or Canadians, etc.
For example, indians. Their accent, their skin colour, their ethnicity would make one classify them as indians, even thought they are already citizens.
ps: The going market rate for SG pp is US37,000. A well used, well travelled one commands a higher price than a barely used one. -
unless u r a kid that grow up oversea it would be difficult at our level to change identity in any case it is a conscious decision to move.Originally posted by Really mama?:I had a question like this the other day. The problem those people who gave up their passports faced was people still classify them as overseas immigrants, as opposed to Americans or Canadians, etc.
For example, indians. Their accent, their skin colour, their ethnicity would make one classify them as indians, even thought they are already citizens.
ps: The going market rate for SG pp is US37,000. A well used, well travelled one commands a higher price than a barely used one. -
Singapore doesn't have to know that you hold another citizenship.
It's your kids' dual nationality that will be tricky.. -
I am still quite perplexed by your post. So what's your idea of an American or Canadian is Caucasian of Anglo-Saxon descent?Originally posted by Really mama?:I had a question like this the other day. The problem those people who gave up their passports faced was people still classify them as overseas immigrants, as opposed to Americans or Canadians, etc.
For example, indians. Their accent, their skin colour, their ethnicity would make one classify them as indians, even thought they are already citizens. -
Yes old man said that once. But so what...he "says" a lot of things.Originally posted by jetta:Someone PM'ed me to say that the Old Man is considering allowing for dual nationalities. True?
