US election candidates
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IOWA DOWN. OBAMA GOING TO WIN.
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lets make a bet here.. if he wins, he's going to get shot like the late JFK in his 2nd year.. i like the guy really.. but is the world ready for a 'black' guy running it ?Originally posted by Fatum:he is very popular with the Canadians too ... which IMO, is a good indicator that he WON'T get elected ...
I'm always suspicious of any politician who can talk too well ... though of course, the US presidential politics is basically a baby kissing and speech making contest ... -
I already have a running bet with arapahoe that obama won't get it ....Originally posted by ben1406:lets make a bet here.. if he wins, he's going to get shot like the late JFK in his 2nd year.. i like the guy really.. but is the world ready for a 'black' guy running it ?
and it's not because he's a black dude either, he has none of the political-industrial complexes behind him, he has a checkered past with drugs, he's actually spent years abroad and experienced other cultures, he's making the wrong noises on a lot of policies, and worse, no noise at all ... I still don't think he'll make it ....
if anything, I hope huckabee will get it, sure, people will be uncomfortable with a baptist minister running the country, but perhaps he'll have the guts and discipline to stop the rot of the most important country on earth ... -
huckabee is looking like a good candidate.. funny how both front runners for the rep party now is a baptist minister and a mormon.Originally posted by Fatum:I already have a running bet with arapahoe that obama won't get it ....
and it's not because he's a black dude either, he has none of the political-industrial complexes behind him, he has a checkered past with drugs, he's actually spent years abroad and experienced other cultures, he's making the wrong noises on a lot of policies, and worse, no noise at all ... I still don't think he'll make it ....
if anything, I hope huckabee will get it, sure, people will be uncomfortable with a baptist minister running the country, but perhaps he'll have the guts and discipline to stop the rot of the most important country on earth ...
yeah, you got a good point about obama on the "political-industrial" part. but some part of me wants the guy to win.. i rather he gets the dem party vote then clinton ! world can't be ruled by, bush - clinton - bush & clinton again ! -
Yes Tiger Beer.Originally posted by Fatum:I already have a running bet with arapahoe that obama won't get it ....
and it's not because he's a black dude either, he has none of the political-industrial complexes behind him, he has a checkered past with drugs, he's actually spent years abroad and experienced other cultures, he's making the wrong noises on a lot of policies, and worse, no noise at all ... I still don't think he'll make it ....
if anything, I hope huckabee will get it, sure, people will be uncomfortable with a baptist minister running the country, but perhaps he'll have the guts and discipline to stop the rot of the most important country on earth ...
U know I watch Huckabee last night and I begins to wonder if he is a decoy for John Mcaine. The republican are more unify groups than democrats.
If hillary wins the nominees than I think republican will win the general election, If Obama wins the nomination than the outcome of the general election will be uncertain. -
if hillary wins, i'm moving to mars !Originally posted by Arapahoe:Yes Tiger Beer.
U know I watch Huckabee last night and I begins to wonder if he is a decoy for John Mcaine. The republican are more unify groups than democrats.
If hillary wins the nominees than I think republican will win the general election, If Obama wins the nomination than the outcome of the general election will be uncertain. -
It is not the scandal that he is bad. but his Presidency has always being concern with Polls reading, Ignore foreign policy in Europe and Africa, asia, ignore threats.Originally posted by ben1406:really ? just because of that scandal he sucked ? he was one of the better presidents for the past century ! worked so hard for the country after cleaning up the mess started by bush sr and now, jr messed it up again..
Remember the non leadership in the balkan, the Rwanda killing. negociate with NK and ends up with Nuke, Did not police the Nuke non proliforation that result both India and Pakistan to own Nuke, Somalia ends up negociating with a warlord. Spend 8 years in the white house and did nothing to end resolution in Iraq. allow food for oil program in Iraq to have an ineffective sanction on iraq. Last but not least, Press a few buttons to blow up some caves but did not take out Osama. And he made the statement I wish i had kill osama after 911.
maybe unfair but seriously thats was from his watch. Bush may not be great but lets not over rate Bill. -
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well if she continue to be the running 3rd in the next 2 states than implication of funding and support from wall street will move to Obama.Originally posted by ben1406:if hillary wins, i'm moving to mars !
She will have to find new theme to run. -
yeah his foreign policy weren't the best but in his 8 years in office, he did quite abit to help boost America's own economy.Originally posted by Arapahoe:It is not the scandal that he is bad. but his Presidency has always being concern with Polls reading, Ignore foreign policy in Europe and Africa, asia, ignore threats.
Remember the non leadership in the balkan, the Rwanda killing. negociate with NK and ends up with Nuke, Did not police the Nuke non proliforation that result both India and Pakistan to own Nuke, Somalia ends up negociating with a warlord. Spend 8 years in the white house and did nothing to end resolution in Iraq. allow food for oil program in Iraq to have an ineffective sanction on iraq. Last but not least, Press a few buttons to blow up some caves but did not take out Osama. And he made the statement I wish i had kill osama after 911.
maybe unfair but seriously thats was from his watch. Bush may not be great but lets not over rate Bill. -
Some blessing attributeOriginally posted by ben1406:
he hired Jame Rubin best person hired during his presidency.
global IT expansion the dot.com new economy. not sure if he did anything.
and Alan greenspan
He did major fiscal cut that i attribute to him but i think he cut too steep into CIA.
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On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, former President Bill Clinton criticized the media for not pressing Barack Obama more fully on Iraq, and accused the Illinois senator of shifting his position to reflect changing attitudes on the war.
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"It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once, 'Well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn't know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war," Clinton said at a campaign stop in Hanover, New Hampshire
I am not really sure continuing campaign on behalf of Hilary is helping her at all. I think if she wants to be taken seriously, with experience and "change" Bill need to be out completely and stay in the background. -
omigod .... it looks like I MAY loose my bet ...
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what a bummer ! Hilary win this round.Originally posted by Fatum:omigod .... it looks like I MAY loose my bet ... 
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the obama fella reminds me very much of denzel washington
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the power of a woman's tears ....Originally posted by Arapahoe:what a bummer ! Hilary win this round. -
i knowOriginally posted by Fatum:the power of a woman's tears .... how cute.....poor baby.....
there are alot of talks in the bloc that it has been stage. also they show the phone conversation between bill and hilary when bill say "I love you" over the phone infront of the audience and TV.
I just realized would Bill be the white house chief of staff? -
*lays $5 on the table*Originally posted by LazerLordz:My bet was on Obama eventually being VP under Clinton.
But seriously, Obama's untried. I'm not comfortable with the idea of having someone that inexperienced at the helm. I think we need a seat warmer first so Obama can build experience. -
the oni one mi likes any bit at all is obama.........
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U should have bet on a Peranakan dishOriginally posted by jetta:*lays $5 on the table*
But seriously, Obama's untried. I'm not comfortable with the idea of having someone that inexperienced at the helm. I think we need a seat warmer first so Obama can build experience. -
heh heh.........you just might...............Originally posted by ben1406:if hillary wins, i'm moving to mars !
the croc tears worked! -
*makes side bet*Originally posted by Arapahoe:U should have bet on a Peranakan dish -
the race is getting interesting .... shall we up the stakes ? ... -
i know! make u wonder who is running for President Bill or Hil ? anyway Fed 5 is the supper playoff.Originally posted by Fatum:the race is getting interesting .... shall we up the stakes ? ...
what do u wanna up stakes? i know a guy that work for Beer distribution in San Diego? -
any room for edward and obama to come together? they have differences on issue but i don't think it is a wide different? they both talk almost the same theme.