Why did you choose to stay on/return ? ....
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right now, there's a lot of rumblings around about Singaporeans going off overseas to study and not returning after ....
the strait times ran an article about the 2Fs (family and friends) that are supposedly the major "pull" factors for people to return home ...
linky to article
I know there are some forumers here who are "stayers", staying on after their studies to build a career for themselves in their host countries ....
but there are also others who came back after their studies (including one of our ex moderator here ) ... and even some who returned to Singapore after several years of post-grad work overseas ...
so ... what really are the push and pull factors for you ? .... is it really family and friends ? ... -
They forgot the third "F" - food.
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ahahahahahah ........Originally posted by jetta:They forgot the third "F" - food.
you know ... I was just ruminating over this very thing while I ate my dinner ....
to be honest, the craving wanes over time .... what you can't get, you'll learn not to miss, after a while ... -
True, true...Originally posted by Fatum:ahahahahahah ........
you know ... I was just ruminating over this very thing while I ate my dinner ....
to be honest, the craving wanes over time .... what you can't get, you'll learn not to miss, after a while ...
As disturbing as it may sound, I actually find my craving for Hainanese chicken
rice diminishing with time. Should I be worried?
Well, the pull and push factors for me would include:Originally posted by Fatum:so ... what really are the push and pull factors for you ? .... is it really family and friends ? ...
Pull factors:
1. Parents. Realistically, though, this will eventually cease to be a pull factor.
2. Food, though not to as great an extent as in previous years.
3. Friends--at least those who have not yet emigrated from Singapore.
Push factors:
1. Better job opportunities/career prospects outside of Singapore.
2. The year-round hot and humid weather.
3. The escalating cost of living.
4. The constant overcrowding and congestion. 6 million people? No thanks.
5. The disingenuousness and callousness of the political machinery in Singapore whose policies seem geared towards self-aggrandizement and self-enrichment at the expense of the common Singaporean.
6. The overregulation of society and related lack of personal freedoms and choices. -
i came back because of job.
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MG, re: Hainanese Chicken rice. Only because you know you can order the Prima version online, anytime.
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Only people who don't live in a state where 1 in seven of Americans live can say this.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:Push factors:
4. The constant overcrowding and congestion. 6 million people? No thanks. -
Michael Jackson has his favourite chinese food flown from HK to USA.
dang. -
haha... I havent met the situation b4 to stay on or to return...
But, even if it is to jeopardize my career, I will still find a way back to Singapore.
If u have talent, u can built yr career anywhere...
But not anywhere can be called a home to you... -
This is an interesting topic to discuss as I am still struggling to make an option.
I used to think that I will come back because my friends and family. Now after seeing all the MIW who is making rubbish decision, I will like to come back to singapore....only for holidays. -
Are you including the illegals in that one-in-seven figure?Originally posted by jetta:Only people who don't live in a state where 1 in seven of Americans live can say this. 
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I would not jump into conclusion immediately.Originally posted by SpeedStar:This is an interesting topic to discuss as I am still struggling to make an option.
I used to think that I will come back because my friends and family. Now after seeing all the MIW who is making rubbish decision, I will like to come back to singapore....only for holidays.
SG by all means has become a global city. Your employment exposure will give you an edge if your work involved Asia regional.
i find that utimately u have to choose a region other than your field of specializes. -
Singapore is only a global city in terms of businesses and workers.Originally posted by Arapahoe:I would not jump into conclusion immediately.
SG by all means has become a global city. Your employment exposure will give you an edge if your work involved Asia regional.
i find that utimately u have to choose a region other than your field of specializes.
The attitudes are still very much unglobalised.
Many or most Singaporeans are still frog in well. Xenophobia and racial prejudice still abounds everywhere here. -
I came back coz I knew the old man came back.
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I am a stayer. After some 10 years of academic involvement in the US, I figure I am more appreciated as a PhD holder here than in S'pore. Btw, I am not one of those scholarship bond breaker. No hate emails please...
In addition, my goals are within nearer reach here than in Singapore IMO.
Family: No comments.
Friends: Everyone has moved on to their different goals.
Food: Wife and I do miss a bit here and there. But like Fatum said "what you can't get, you'll learn not to miss". We move on to appreciate cuisines from the rest of the world. -
Where in the US are you at VSE? *hoping you're going to say west coast*Originally posted by VSE:I am a stayer. After some 10 years of academic involvement in the US, I figure I am more appreciated as a PhD holder here than in S'pore. Btw, I am not one of those scholarship bond breaker. No hate emails please...
In addition, my goals are within nearer reach here than in Singapore IMO.
Family: No comments.
Friends: Everyone has moved on to their different goals.
Food: Wife and I do miss a bit here and there. But like Fatum said "what you can't get, you'll learn not to miss". We move on to appreciate cuisines from the rest of the world. -
Btw any one living in scandinavia?
How tough is it to become a PR there? -
Hopefully he owns a bak gua shop so he can ship all his bak gua to us huh??Originally posted by jetta:Where in the US are you at VSE? *hoping you're going to say west coast* -
Good for you VSE...you have indeed made a wise choice and we welcome you into the family of realistic peopleOriginally posted by VSE:I am a stayer. After some 10 years of academic involvement in the US, I figure I am more appreciated as a PhD holder here than in S'pore. Btw, I am not one of those scholarship bond breaker. No hate emails please...
In addition, my goals are within nearer reach here than in Singapore IMO.
Family: No comments.
Friends: Everyone has moved on to their different goals.
Food: Wife and I do miss a bit here and there. But like Fatum said "what you can't get, you'll learn not to miss". We move on to appreciate cuisines from the rest of the world.
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Originally posted by SpeedStar:Hopefully he owns a bak gua shop so he can ship all his bak gua to us huh??
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With Singaporeans, it's almost always all about food.
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up to a point. after all there is only so much u can eat.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:With Singaporeans, it's almost always all about food. -
Well, there's always NS. I mean, I can do a CFA in that time, and earn more money than my peers who have just come out of it. Not only that, I get life and job experience that I can't get in the army.
I'm actually ahead of all my classmates in terms of level of study. While they've just started their degree, I've just finished mine and am doing an honours year. By the time they get to my level, I'd have been in the workforce with more job experience than they would have. If you were a manager, would you hire me, with an honours degree and 2 years of work experience, or a fresh graduate with no experience and no honours year?
As with all of you, the only thing I would go back for is the food. XD But then, food is not that big a deal in concidering whether to live in Singapore. Holidays are enough to sate my hunger. ^_^
Also, it's not as if Singapore is the safest place in the world to live. There are other perfectly safe places to live, with much nicer climates and lower costs of living. -
Hell, I just decided to stay in Australia because I like it here - nothing more complicated than that.
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Yeah, the atmosphere of civil liberty. Just the right surroundings for a journo.Originally posted by Gedanken:Hell, I just decided to stay in Australia because I like it here - nothing more complicated than that.