Do Singaporeans assimilate well into other countries ?
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who will trust me if not the dear udon?Originally posted by udontknowme:
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Ok Fymk point noted! and the part about how Singaporeans behave differently in different countries ...that is a very interesting observation.So again we agree that the Kiasu Singapore lang can change their form and assimilate rite?.........macam termitator like that! but when it comes to mxing around with ther own kind....macam exterminator.
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There are good ones and there are bad ones I suppose.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:I wonder if it's because Singaporeans in 2 different countries (one Asian and the other not-so) behave differently.
Those I cannot stand have colonialist mindset aka anything the ang moh say is better mindset , or the My-family-is-so-rich-but-I-cannot-buy-property-I-have-to-rent-a-shit-hole-O-by-the-way-you-earn-more-than-me- FEED-ME-and-look-at-my-new-LV-bag-only-1.2k-so-cheap mindset. -
i haven't had a chance to actually meet another singaporean in tokyo, i missed 2 guys by a bit, 1 was returning to sg soon and had no time to meet up, another left like half an hour just before i arrived at a friend's party.
my theory is that most singaporeans can't be bothered to learn a new language thus the huge congregation in australia. my experience from the tons of people that tell me they want to learn japanese but have no time for classes and when i say i am self taught they come up with other excuses.
i've noticed however, that most of the chinese, taiwanese and hkers here tend to mix among themselves, and though they 'want to', never actually make any effort to get to know more japanese. all their free time is spent hanging out with other chinese. so you have those that've been here for 2 years and still can't string together a proper sentence. -
Er... that was me.Originally posted by nismoS132:so you have those that've been here for 2 years and still can't string together a proper sentence.
But I could order food. 
I lived in Japan for 6 years but in my defence, I didn't have to interact with the Japanese on a daily basis. -
not always true lah.. when i was there.. my chinese colleague actually prefer to mix with jap than chinese... oh of coz he love korean too... then after i leave.. another of my chinese colleague took over my job.. she can speak jap now just within 1 yr.. maybe coz of her jap bf too lah haha...go to their cc lah.. got free class one.. not really class lah.. but jap ppl wanting to teach u jap.. then just talk talk talk till u can speak... or the other way round.. jap who wan to learn english.. then u go there everyweek to just chat with them to help them improve...sighz.. knn i missed tokyo.... sighz....Originally posted by nismoS132:i haven't had a chance to actually meet another singaporean in tokyo, i missed 2 guys by a bit, 1 was returning to sg soon and had no time to meet up, another left like half an hour just before i arrived at a friend's party.
my theory is that most singaporeans can't be bothered to learn a new language thus the huge congregation in australia. my experience from the tons of people that tell me they want to learn japanese but have no time for classes and when i say i am self taught they come up with other excuses.
i've noticed however, that most of the chinese, taiwanese and hkers here tend to mix among themselves, and though they 'want to', never actually make any effort to get to know more japanese. all their free time is spent hanging out with other chinese. so you have those that've been here for 2 years and still can't string together a proper sentence.
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i think the irony is those who assimilate well into other countries do not visit SG forum and don't return back to Singapore!!!!!
only duke like us who serve NS and tend to have some emotional attachment other than food.... -
bo leh... i enjoy staying overseas now.. and i wont come back if i got a choice... and i miss only the food and fren leh.. nothing is miss about NS of coz.....Originally posted by Arapahoe:i think the irony is those who assimilate well into other countries do not visit SG forum and don't return back to Singapore!!!!!
only duke like us who serve NS and tend to have some emotional attachment other than food.... -
me too.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):bo leh... i enjoy staying overseas now.. and i wont come back if i got a choice... and i miss only the food and fren leh.. nothing is miss about NS of coz.....
i see no point returning. -
but it's not easy to stay in japan.. if u are not a japanese.. u die die wont be a japanese citizen...but ur next generation still got chance..but.. once u in japan u wont wan to come back sg one lah... coz much fun there...second rated in japan or second rated in sg got no different right? hahaOriginally posted by nismoS132:me too.
i see no point returning. -
not true leh. there's is an option for naturalisation, but have to be PR for 10 years first. which itself requires one to have stayed in japan for at least 10 years. so i'll only be getting it when i'm 40 something, probably already with kids and a mortgage.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):but it's not easy to stay in japan.. if u are not a japanese.. u die die wont be a japanese citizen...but ur next generation still got chance..but.. once u in japan u wont wan to come back sg one lah... coz much fun there...second rated in japan or second rated in sg got no different right? haha
but who knows, by then i might be in europe. given an option though, i'll prefer to be in an asian country. maybe 20 years from now there is no more PAP and singapore will turn for the better. -
yes u can naturalisation.. but 10 yrs leh.. plus from what i heard.. naturalisation is still different from citizen... not like sg that giving out citizenship like nothing... i heard u will still be treated differently and ur ID card still different one...only ur next generation can be a REAL japanese...... europe? good place for retirement if u got money...if not u better try stay there first b4 hoping for too much..... but of coz... anywhere is still better than sg as they dun have PAP there..Originally posted by nismoS132:not true leh. there's is an option for naturalisation, but have to be PR for 10 years first. which itself requires one to have stayed in japan for at least 10 years. so i'll only be getting it when i'm 40 something, probably already with kids and a mortgage.
but who knows, by then i might be in europe. given an option though, i'll prefer to be in an asian country. maybe 20 years from now there is no more PAP and singapore will turn for the better. -
naturalisation = citizenship. you even have to switch to a japanese name. anyway 10 years then 10 years loh. 10 years as a PR here is still better than 10 years as a citizen in singapore.
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Eventually yes.
Even if a singaporean were to insist on keeping his accent [for example], he/she eventually feels out of place. Unless OTHER singaporeans/malaysians are present, den theres a chance they may stay the same and only assimilate with other asians.
I saw a big difference wen i met up with a friend who moved to Perth in 97. Taking note that i moved to Syd for my Sec skool and JC in 2001 and had friends from all backgrounds. He tended to be very reserved and quiet. The reason? he mostly hung around other Singaporeans. Not saying that its a bad thing but its a noticable difference. Even i spoke in an aussie accent wif my other malaysian/singaporean ppl back in syd.
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lets see, most europeans in USa thinks I am taiwanese.
And they think I've been living in USA a long while.
Though my american twang is not perfect, they say i speak well enough to mislead them otherwise.
But only, when with fellow singaporeans..then I can yak yak yak away in a singaporean style english, even without the lah and meh...and its understood.
if anyone do notice, SIngaporeans do speak in a manner unlike proper grammer of British.
I can always say: Mean what? And fellow Singaporean will understand what I am asking and explain nicely.
Americans tend to think I am upset instead of confuse.
The idea is that we Singaporean phrased our english differently, even w/o the slangs. -
sometime...
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And only a few folks can differentiate Singaporean english to taiwanese english.
Singaporeans tends to be more blunt or curt on the last sound of the word in a sentence.