DW Group & EastWing Group - My Experience
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Say le in 1 of the post i write, i dun feel proud to tell ppl i m from DW.Originally posted by pqr:if you are not in DW, how do you know all these things inside the company?
Is it what you heard or really a fact?
Just want to know the truth. Pls do not be offended.
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Hi Luv_u,Originally posted by Luv_u:Say le in 1 of the post i write, i dun feel proud to tell ppl i m from DW.
So are you still working with them? i hear one of the acting director have be kick out from there.
I feel like once you are useless to them they will not need you any more. -
May I know who's been kicked out??
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Are you from DW also?Originally posted by lhx_kaze:May I know who's been kicked out?? -
Yupz, I wrote that in my first post...Originally posted by singlish04:Are you from DW also? -
Hi.. I believe many of u will be saying i m dreaming or i m wastin my time.. i m jux tryin to convinced myself in the company coz i m already sho deep into this "scam". But may i noe.. are u sure wat ur sae is true.. ur sae alot of complains.. but it seems like always the same few peole toking in this thread.. which company dun make profits..? F&N.. a normal drinks company.. if u check.. a normal can of drink cost $0.12 but we are paying 5 times more.. why? coz dey need to earn.. not only MLM company does it.. u can check it if u dun believe.. true.. maybe u can argue tt no matter how the price rise.. its only a like $1 for the drink while magnetic bedpads cost to thousands.. but itsn't it the same..? the price rise 4-5times.. WHY? earn money.. profiits.. simple as that.. i reply to this thread is not to tell u guys u are wrong.. u hav ur points.. but dun doubt a company just because people spread things bout it.. their so-called "experience".. many MLM companies are thru commission-based plan.. sho if u dun sell.. definitely u wun earn.. sho if u didn't earn $$.. den u shld ask urself "why?".. did u really put in the effort.. true.. some company do ask u to put in $$ to get the bedpads or ani other products.. but the point is.. its ur choice.. if ur parents doesn't hav the products.. and u urself believe in it.. n u noe it can help.. u wish to promote it to ur parents.. n dey eventually bought it.. is it the company's fault? i believe its u urself hu didn't think carefully.. some company kip psychoing their people to put in $$.. to invest.. they will see more returns.. but u have to evauate urself.. no matter u are a teenager or wat.. i believe if u are at least 14 or maybe i shld sae "16 and above.." u shld noe whether its worth it.. of coz if ur parents already have the products.. wat for ask dem put in the $$.. isn't that stupid..? its u urself hu didn't think and u r blaming the company.. furthermore for the magnetic products.. i have seen its usefulness.. if u wan ur parents to use it.. n sho be it.. bt if u wan to invest XTRA $$ into it to gain ur position.. dun blame it on the company that they are brainwashing u.. blame it on urself for not thinking carefully.. another thing i wish to address.. is the magents tt singlish04 sae.. for the price wise.. i believe i explained it above.. how bout this.. u sae its a industrial magnet.. sho i can sae its a cheat company and thus the products doesn't work.. rit?? since its not a medical magent.. den may i ask u.. y do some ppl see effect in it? dun tell me there is a mixture of magnets.. todae.. u buy a product.. or u join a comapny.. dey tell u the product from where from where.. no matter japan amercia or watsoever.. can i sae as long as the products works like wat it supposed to.. isn't it all tt matters..? i m not writin this thread to argue wit u guys. but i feel its really unfair for the companies because u guys dunno the whole detail but jux sae wat ur noe which are all bad things.. todae if u wan to work aniwhere.. think before u do.. dun come and blame the company for brainwashing u.. u are v.innocent.. u got tricked or watsoever.. its you hu didn't think carefully.. dun sae MLM companies.. no matter what also the same.. all i can sae now is.. for those who did not get the products as promised.. if u wan ur $$ back.. its impossible.. but if u still wan the product.. i believe the address is return on the invoice slip.. sho why dun u come down with the invoice and ask for the products.. i believe it will be a beterr and faster way rather den gog thru ur frens.. or ur sho-much hated upliness or managers.. because if u really wan the $$ to be worth while.. at least u can't get a refund u can get the goods.. den jux take the invoice and come down to look for anibody.. please dun gv urself excuses that they will not do anithing.. for DW.. i noe their HQ is at 13th floor.. sho go straight there.. dun sae they wun gv u the goods or wat.. i believe if u go dwn. .they will gv u wat u have ordered and pay for.. thank u
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please dun gv urself excuses that they will not do anithing.. for DW.. i noe their HQ is at 13th floor.. sho go straight there.. dun sae they wun gv u the goods or wat.. i believe if u go dwn. .they will gv u wat u have ordered and pay for..
anyone wants to meet up with him and prove him wrong and you are right?
lhx_kaze? and those who felt cheated? -
quite hard to read...
try to paragraph next time...haha.. -
Ermmmmm..... I guess I need to REITERATE what I have been putting across in this thread. The quote regarding the F & N drink is definitely sensible and of course, that's how companies earn their profits.
I am not saying, I am not saying they cheat people because their goods are very expensive.
I AM SAYING they cheat people because u dun get ur goods. If u think u can get ur goods just by going down and showing ur invoice, I have TO SAY u are too gullible.
I DID that. BUT to no avail.
They did not give me my goods that was due 1 yr ago. 1 YEAR ago.
Even by going down to the company and showing ur "trumph card" invoice,
even by going to the police, to the Small Claims Tribunal, there is no use.
This is what I call PLAIN CHEATING.
P.S: u mention that its the few of us saying bad things here, but do think everyone who have been cheated comes here and read the forums?? I dun think so. Moreover, for a company like DW, I guess the no of people who have been "complaining" here is more than enough to question the creditability of the company. -
I didnt feel cheated, I was cheated.Originally posted by pqr:anyone wants to meet up with him and prove him wrong and you are right?
lhx_kaze? and those who felt cheated?
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hey kaze.. i have read ur reply and i understand ur situation.. may i ask.. are u from EASTWING (KCG Holding) or DW Group? Because if u really had paid for the whole product.. i dun see why they will deny u of the product.. i have heard of people not getting the product but when they actually called or went up.. they actually explained to them that there was too many goods in and out and thus mix up and they was given their goods.. and none had came back for refund or complain.. so i believe if u try one more time.. come down to DW Group if u had purchase it from there and not EASTWING company.. den they will definitely hand u the product if ur invoice got nothing wrong.. i not trying to offend u in aniwae.. but i believe there is no harm doing that rit? maybe this can proved whether u are really cheated or u dun wish to pursue the item animore and jux waste ur $$$..
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hey kaze.. i am sorry again.. i went back to ur 1st message of this thread and read it thru once more and i saw that u will actually from KCG Holdings.. and u actually venture out with them to form EASTWING.. so it looks like u are actually cheated by them and not DW.. i wished to certified that DW and EASTWING have no more links since they branch out from us and start alone.. dun always link us together just because we used to be one company or same for asayo group.. each company are responsible for their own actions.. and i feel that its v.unfair to blame it on DW when EASTWING was the group who actually did the bad things..
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how much you know about them? so you must be one of them? Yes every company do make money, if not what run a business right? The problem is how they run the company.
If you read on other forums on MLM you should be able to see there are handfull of ppl join and end up complain in this forums. We are all trying to stop this company from cheating ppl money.
The last few msg from one of the guys in here say that ROC don't even reg some of the outlet name, as for i think you don't even have a black and white sign... if yes show it to ask.
The company only know how to cover their own ass.
Use your pig brain and think pal -
Yo,Originally posted by pqr:anyone wants to meet up with him and prove him wrong and you are right?
lhx_kaze? and those who felt cheated?
Are you refer to "daddas" if yes don't wast your time, very hard to prove. his brain have given to them.. so let the time prove him wrong. -
So i guess you have not been cheated? anyway, we are now refering to DW. eastwing got nothing to talk about.Originally posted by daddas:hey kaze.. i am sorry again.. i went back to ur 1st message of this thread and read it thru once more and i saw that u will actually from KCG Holdings.. and u actually venture out with them to form EASTWING.. so it looks like u are actually cheated by them and not DW.. i wished to certified that DW and EASTWING have no more links since they branch out from us and start alone.. dun always link us together just because we used to be one company or same for asayo group.. each company are responsible for their own actions.. and i feel that its v.unfair to blame it on DW when EASTWING was the group who actually did the bad things..
Just wondering are you one of those DW ppl, the way you write it seem like you are someone in a high post huh? if not you will not know so much about them.
DW - joey tan / Peter ang
Eastwing - Mr Yeow
ASAYO - Raymond Ng "One more name on pending to be change from ROC cert"
from my record show that so far there is about 75 complain on DW from the past 12 months. and i notic some outlet is closing.
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one last thing, about the magnet they use, can you prove the magnet is medical since you say it is medical magnet.
Why the company never go to PSB to prove with a cert? funny right? we are in the world which we see black and white with prove. not by the big mouth.
Anyway going PSB to prove the cert dont really cost much since the company is so rich.
every company you work or even part-timer have a black and white about their payout or contract by seem like this company don't even have one. They should have admin with some A$ paper to print right? so rich but act poor.
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Hi singlish04 and dear all,
Can i know more about this company? or anyone can tell me more? Hear someone from there told me product is not a real medical magnet and made in china, i was working with them before 2 months back. but stop working with them due to some stupid thngs happen. they ask me go borrow money from my frs and buy their product. what the h e l l man. wasted my 3 months their. I notice some company is selling the product in china town for just S$200 and the same design.
I think this company realy got a big problem... cheating around people money.
The reason i'm here is the same as you guys. stop people getting cheated.
And that F CU K joey, just becos he is getting married and make up the product selling price and we do the selling.
what a f c u kin company is this. alot of things they been hidding and end up i found out that they have some much problem.
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hey guys, i just got a call from someone , 62223981, this morning, claiming to be from Staffinder, saying she got my resume from jobstreet and she ask me to come down for interview, a mgmt trainee post, train u for two yrs to be manager .
Investment banking and financial services.
i tried to squeeze an interview after office hours (Didnt want to anyhow use my leave) but to no avail. told me interview slots are filled, only got friday at 4.30pm. saturday not working.
told her i called her back one day to rearrange.
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_____________________Originally posted by ziggyboy:i have been workin wif them 4 2 mths,DW and i face no such problem. maybe itz because u ppl arent gd enuf, not able to generate sales tatz y they ask u to buy! losers! oh yea, i earned $1.6K in my 2nd mth..cheers 4 hard work!
you spend say $20,000 for the mattresses and sold to your relatives.
1 mattress cost $2000. so you bought 10mattresses in all for the 2nd month.
question here is can your relatives buy 10 mattresses from you EVERY MONTH in order for you to sustain your $1600 salary (8% commission) EVERY MONTH??
You work there for 2 yrs, your relatives have to spend 24mths X $20000 for you to earn $1600 per month for 2 yrs!!!!!!
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[quote]Originally posted by shoutcast:
one week later in march i recieve a call from them , i say i am in army , ord 26 jun 2004
come july , i recieve a call from them again
nonetheless he went on to say something about each of the top directors would take out one million and build a club where only those with sports cars/ high end cars can go
then pretty models and handsome hunks will be able to get in free of charge
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lesson no. 1 : never reveal your home or HP nos. to surveyors in public.
(you wouldn't want them to SMS you endlessly at your cost)
always give your email to them as [email protected]
sport cars, pretty models and hunks eh?
tell him to fly aeroplane crash into building can go heaven.
Go heaven got 72 virgins waiting for you.
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[quote]Originally posted by singlish04:
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goldquest not in this list. some of you guys after only less than 6 mths realised you've been cheated.
i know a "goldquester" from 1999/2000 up to now still "selling" those goldcoins. sell how many coins and recruit how many ppl? only he knows.
go read my other thread on the typical MLMer in various stages.
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hey i filled up e employment form last wk but i decided not to join e company today.
If by any means i'm not turning up on the first day of work, will they actually send e gds to my hse, coercing me to pay for them since i'm still an "employee" by filling up e form?
In fact, I have made it rather clear tt I'm outta dis whole gig. But I'm afraid they will use underhand means to make money outta me since e employment form is still with them.
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Hihi, did u sign the form in DW Holdings?? Care to share more about which holdings u went to and stuff?? u dun haf to worry so much, they wun do anything to u if u go missing in action. Cos when I was doing recruitment for my own network, out of 100 surveys I did, I only managed to persuade 20 to come down to have a look at the company. Out of these 20, only 1 stayed to work as a mattress promoter. In fact, the recruiters themselves knew very well that many people go missing in action, so they wun do anything like that to u, eg asking u to buy their products. But in case they really do that (1% possibility), pls call the police!!!Originally posted by noise~:hey i filled up e employment form last wk but i decided not to join e company today.
If by any means i'm not turning up on the first day of work, will they actually send e gds to my hse, coercing me to pay for them since i'm still an "employee" by filling up e form?
In fact, I have made it rather clear tt I'm outta dis whole gig. But I'm afraid they will use underhand means to make money outta me since e employment form is still with them.
Wad exactly shud I do?
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Hey ppl,
This is nothing to do about my experience working there but how they treated my friend and I when we wanted to apply for the job.
When my friend and I first arrived for our so called first interview. We were asked to attend a carreer seminar. It was really inspirational and all.
Anyway the point is the seminar ends about 1030 pm at night. So tired and both us had to go to work in the morning. So we had to come down for our first interview the next day at 5pm after work . Guess what when we came down we waited for 2 hrs for our interview even though we rushed down from work to be there punctually at 5pm sharp. We were not angry but a bit irritated for their inconsideration. After all that waiting, the first interview were only 5mins long. What a laugh rite...
So we came down punctually at 5 for the second interview and guess what the interviwer was not there she was out. She didn't even bother to find a replacement. My friend and I decided not to accept this job offer anymore so we decided to come back the next day which was supposedly to be our third interview. We set an appointment with the boss at 5pm sharp so that we can tell him we wanted to decline the job. My friend and I could have just called the company up and said we wanted this job no more. However we felt it was impolite so we came down after work to tell him personally and our reason. Guess what we were forced to leave the place without even telling the boss why we wanted to quit because he was too busy to entertain us.
I feel the company is so direspectful and inconsiderate for letting us wait for an interview. I thought they would honour the appointments. I mean since they have to set appointments with their clients rite.
During our second interview they were telling us more about the biomagnetic product. I realise it is nothing spectacular and their explanation are all bull crap. I want to warn people that they should not believe in this product and not fall into their (the company) trap at all. Please I call onto you guys to warn your friends and relatives about this.
The cost of the product itself is unreasonable. There are other ways to be healthy and I don't think u have to waste money on this product.
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hi all,
me and my fren went down to DW last week and was interviewed or shall i say psychoed to join DW. As usual they showed us e vcd and e pics with them posing with their cars. at first i was quite interested, but after see this thread, i think e golden beard guy derek ching is a cheat. Thanks a lot for u all warning e rest.