DW Group & EastWing Group - My Experience
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haha, but anyway what Luv_u has posted is exactly what I wanted to put across to the people reading the forum.Originally posted by laurence82:Someone please translates all his/her posts into simple English please..i am getting a headache reading..
is there a need to spam the topic? put all your stories into one post or two...
Where on earth do u find a company who bills their employees for their so-called electric bills and rental and like what ziggyboy says, they churn their profits from their own employees' salary???!!!! I thought profits should be generated from consumers?? They are just money suckers, people who are continuing to stay there are just trying to convince themselves that they are not cheated, cos they are too deep into this scam... -
i really hope that the government intervenes to nip such mlm scams in the bud... it's ruining alot of lives.
except for those honest ones (maybe 1%)... i just wish that all of them will close down. -
HaHa... ziggyboy had MIA from DW for quite some time le. he is a very flirt malay guy in 16th floor.Originally posted by lhx_kaze:haha, but anyway what Luv_u has posted is exactly what I wanted to put across to the people reading the forum.
Where on earth do u find a company who bills their employees for their so-called electric bills and rental and like what ziggyboy says, they churn their profits from their own employees' salary???!!!! I thought profits should be generated from consumers?? They are just money suckers, people who are continuing to stay there are just trying to convince themselves that they are not cheated, cos they are too deep into this scam... -
In DW, many of them who stay there are some ppl whu have not know the truth on DW Group, some whu are very lost, some looking another way or sources. BUT there are still some of the STUPID who was just promoted to A/M at 1st oct 04 on the special plan that is during July 04. Actually some of those are brainless ppl, they think too easy le $2K or $3K promoted to A/M from S/O sound simple but they still need to go and beg their parent or whoever again to get the product, some even take out their own saving to get promoted. Haiz i feel sad to say so cause some of them working in DW for quite time they dun even earn more them $1K still need to waste more money to be able to there. Haiz i feel sad they themselve was cheated by their own boss again and again.
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SOmething important to share with u guy is nv attend any talk or any thing regarding abt DW Group when ppl from there invited u. Cause they will brainwash you ppl and tell you studying and education are useless nowaday as they ppl inside there earning BIG BUCK!!!
But PLS LAH, sure anot they earn BIG BUCK, haha some of my friends there are borrowing $$$ from me and most importantly their position are A/M somemore. haha. JVD earn 5 digtal income, A/M shld earn at least half of it, how come still need to borrow $$$ hahaha. Tell you all this bulff ppl 1, in DW 1 of the training and teaching is before u really earn the money u muz BULLSHIT to them that u really earn that much cause only this way when ppl join then u really earn that much. There is 1 more teaching is that the company itself teach ppl to borrow $$$ from others but not in DW staff in order to survive and help the company to gain more biz.
THIS IS THE FACT!!! I m 1 of them who attend such training by they really tell ppl to go borrow $$$ from others. I believe many ppl who walk very suck in DW or some how A/M or whatever actually no $$$ in pocket and owes others $$$. haha. i got a friend whu work in DW and end up owe the loan shark $2-3k and quit the company. haiz sad to say so.
The reason why they tell ppl study and education are useless cause they scare that many student will go back to school after holiday and the source of biz will end like this so they will do to their best to brainwash you and stop you from further your studying and work for them.
There are quite afew example.
I remember 1 of the talk that was the 1st time at astralmag holdings, the female MC from Giant say she is a diploma student and she earn alot in DW but the diploma did not contritude to the $$$ she earn.
So how you ppl feel? Luckily she got diploma and she can say that, if not 1 day DW closed down, haha i think she will be.... -
Tell you all lah, actually the so called JVD dun earn 5 digtal income at all. Cause my very friend who is 1 of the JVD there come to borrow $$$ from me $150. you all can see 1, everything juz need ur brain to think but if u all keep on so sturborn and stay in DW for so-called CAREER, continues and go ahead no 1 will stop u all cause u will end up oweing debt everywhere.
The JVD if they nv earn any $$$ and they still need to pay rented, power bill and their car,family, etc, u think Joey Tan so gd ar pay everything, wait long long( die also dun have ). For my advise i think u all better quit DW now no matter how much $$$ ,effort or time u invested, the longer you stay there the more worse u will be and 1 day you may end up jumping down from the building as you really owes too much debt. -
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REMEMBER TELL ALL YOUR FRIEND or whoever so to read this forums. most importantly ppl who are still cheated in DW group. -
if there's a MLM which ask u to quit education.....that is a bullshit company....don't believe it....
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I have been in DW for quite some time. Recently i decided to quit, but before that i want to let ppl know that this company is a cheat. I was duped into joining this company by my friend. He told me many things, that he was earning alot of money..this that....all turned out to be bull@&$!. I joined, and asked my dad to buy the products, costing my family a few thousand dollars. I thought that i can actually earn the money back, but the fact is that even the directors of this company earn very little. mostly they earn 1 or 2 thousand dollars, but they brag and lie that they earn 10,000 dollars. They all drive mercedes cars and wear good clothes, but they dont have a single buck in their bank. I heard that many of them owe alot of money, to banks and their friends. I sincerely felt that it was a good company when i joined, so i recruited quite a few of my friends. At that time i didnt feel that there was anything wrong. But even after a few months there was no progress. I still was earning very little money, just 100 - 400 a month. Still i kept on trying but when i realised that even the directors earn so little money i decided to quit. I feel i did not make a mistake in buying the product because my parents notice the difference. But this company tries to make use of young teenagers to feed their own greed. There are many ppl who quit their school and their jobs to be part of this company. The management at DW condemn education and keep asking students to quit their schools to join this company. It is for this reason i really feel that we should warn as many ppl as possible to think before joining this company.
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In DW Group when they make full use of you until dun need you, they will terminal you. An live example is the female JVD promoted just on July 04 from LW Holdings. She contribute a great number of sales to DW last yr and became the top sniper of last yr whole yr some more... But during she was a JVD she nv contribute much sales, so the company terminal her off and came out a Memo and set to all JV holdings abt her. I feel that the company was very bad and i feel no secure if 1 day i became JVD, will i end up like her??
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He is geeting married and thats his M/F problem... Is what company is this? make ppl work for his married saving? shit mann... the world is changing....Originally posted by Luv_u:Not much ppl in DW really noes the reason why the price of the bedpad and the pillow increase. Actually the real reason is the boss Joey Tan is getting marry soon and he need to increase the price in order to earn more profit for his wife to go shopping.
Right now before 31/12/2004 the pillow is $290 and with GST it will be $304.50 but next yr 2005 it will be $360 and with GST is nearly $400!!! How will somebody get a pillow at this price!!! Telling u guy something, u all can go malaysia, there is an MLM company selling biomagnetism product at KL with have the same pillow, layer and everything the same as DW Biomag STAR (pillow) expect the brand which is not DW costing just RM $259.50( less than S$125). -
Hey Luv_U, are you ex DW agent? you seem to know alot about them. Anyway the product cost is very low and is made in china MFG, the magnet is notmal magent they are selling...Originally posted by Luv_u:DW is not a MLM company and they dun really will be MLM cause it is just like a childcare centre causes teenage are ppl who are not experience to the working world and they are also ppl who are more easy to be cheated or brainwash!!!
Somemore nowaday parent dote their child alot and this wat DW really looking for to earn the $$$ and create biz. juz like y right now many 'N','O','A' and other are having holiday and it is the best time to get as much as possible ppl like them who are inexperience to gain more biz.
That y many ppl come DW feel that why there is so many young ppl working here but what i really think is DW IS LIKE A CHILD CARE CENTRE LAH!!! HAHA
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heard of venture era? I was there before way back few years ago..untill recently I pass by their unit...wow..u will see lots of big cars..seem that they have grown. their boss..... call simon, and vincent or patrick..oh my god!!! it's seem that someone had been feeding them quite well,...BEWARE!!! they are really...out there to suck ur money.. some of their business consultant who left VE call Mr Branson had set up another such "HELL" company @ midlink plaza... it will never seem to end....
Frend... ALL of you please be carefull.....
It's really hurts when I think of it...
I really dont wish to see people fall onto it... IF YOU wanna to make money... in such short time..that's many ways... 1st way..cheat on ur frend, 2nd way cheat on your family..3rd way..cheat even on ur love ones...
If You wanna to loose ur money in a short time,,,or even worse all ur close frend..very simple..JOIN AN MLM COMPANY..
YOUR UPLINE will tell you.. it is best time to test your family and frend to see if they care for you...
BUT THINK..it's regarding money. I'm not rich..my family and frend too... and I got them to pay for such product... to be frank. I have been sleeping on the magnetic bed for 2 years.. but dun seem to work on me.. as I still suffer body ache.. I brought the matt coz I believe my body need it.. and part of it..I hoping to find a work.. but realise it's all a mistake...
THIS IS SINGAPORE... if money can so easy to make..our goverment had already invested..long time ago...
what can a MLM company provide us??
No CPF? while everyone need for home and health
I'm not a great fans of PAP.But all these a main to make us in... but at least we can benefit some of it out from from our dear goverment.. BUT FOR MLM. company??!!!.. I believe NOTHING..
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Is the Company name call Healthwise? I call to their company and check with their company magnetic bedpads. Their sales personal very gd in talking cork, he tell me that they are the main suppler in Singapore supply all the magnetic to all company in Sg.Originally posted by groove:heard of venture era? I was there before way back few years ago..untill recently I pass by their unit...wow..u will see lots of big cars..seem that they have grown. their boss..... call simon, and vincent or patrick..oh my god!!! it's seem that someone had been feeding them quite well,...BEWARE!!! they are really...out there to suck ur money.. some of their business consultant who left VE call Mr Branson had set up another such "HELL" company @ midlink plaza... it will never seem to end....
Frend... ALL of you please be carefull.....
It's really hurts when I think of it...
I really dont wish to see people fall onto it... IF YOU wanna to make money... in such short time..that's many ways... 1st way..cheat on ur frend, 2nd way cheat on your family..3rd way..cheat even on ur love ones...
If You wanna to loose ur money in a short time,,,or even worse all ur close frend..very simple..JOIN AN MLM COMPANY..
YOUR UPLINE will tell you.. it is best time to test your family and frend to see if they care for you...
BUT THINK..it's regarding money. I'm not rich..my family and frend too... and I got them to pay for such product... to be frank. I have been sleeping on the magnetic bed for 2 years.. but dun seem to work on me.. as I still suffer body ache.. I brought the matt coz I believe my body need it.. and part of it..I hoping to find a work.. but realise it's all a mistake...
THIS IS SINGAPORE... if money can so easy to make..our goverment had already invested..long time ago...
what can a MLM company provide us??
No CPF? while everyone need for home and health
I'm not a great fans of PAP.But all these a main to make us in... but at least we can benefit some of it out from from our dear goverment.. BUT FOR MLM. company??!!!.. I believe NOTHING..
trust without harm.. -
one of the top guys in the management from VE went on to join healthwise, pulling a few pple along with him.Originally posted by Luv_u:Is the Company name call Healthwise? I call to their company and check with their company magnetic bedpads. Their sales personal very gd in talking cork, he tell me that they are the main suppler in Singapore supply all the magnetic to all company in Sg.
as for the main supplier?? that's all lies. these pple have to rely on magnetic therapy to enhance their sleep because they have lied too much so it is virtually impossible for them to sleep in peace. these pple are all in the same league...
pple from healthwise can't be trusted. they have lied too much. they even lie to prospective customers, telling them that they are the main suppliers. i don't blame the agents, they themselves are fooled into thinking so. But i just don't understand how can these agents believe them without verifying whatever statements they have made. this leads to a domino effect, with the agents themselves telling other customers and potential recruits and so on...
and the management, they are a cunning and deceitful bunch of pple. behind their candid approach lies a scheming heart. go check out the story how they broke away from VE, n you will be rendered speechless. they r just so.... -
Infact most of the mlm magnet product are not from japan... is mfg from china or malaysia... if i'm not wrong the product have not pass through PSB medical cerf... ho should we stop all this.. i have been seening all this forums talking about them since 3 years back...Originally posted by devoid05:one of the top guys in the management from VE went on to join healthwise, pulling a few pple along with him.
as for the main supplier?? that's all lies. these pple have to rely on magnetic therapy to enhance their sleep because they have lied too much so it is virtually impossible for them to sleep in peace. they are all in the same league... -
Hi Luv_u,Originally posted by Luv_u:Is the Company name call Healthwise? I call to their company and check with their company magnetic bedpads. Their sales personal very gd in talking cork, he tell me that they are the main suppler in Singapore supply all the magnetic to all company in Sg.
I wonder you are from which outlet... LW? Gaint? Truf? or.. so and so... are you still in the company or out? -
i heard that they didn't give those poly attachment students their wages as stipulated...Originally posted by groove:heard of venture era? I was there before way back few years ago..untill recently I pass by their unit...wow..u will see lots of big cars..seem that they have grown. their boss..... call simon, and vincent or patrick..oh my god!!! it's seem that someone had been feeding them quite well,...BEWARE!!! they are really...out there to suck ur money.. some of their business consultant who left VE call Mr Branson had set up another such "HELL" company @ midlink plaza... it will never seem to end....
Frend... ALL of you please be carefull.....
It's really hurts when I think of it...
I really dont wish to see people fall onto it... IF YOU wanna to make money... in such short time..that's many ways... 1st way..cheat on ur frend, 2nd way cheat on your family..3rd way..cheat even on ur love ones...
If You wanna to loose ur money in a short time,,,or even worse all ur close frend..very simple..JOIN AN MLM COMPANY..
YOUR UPLINE will tell you.. it is best time to test your family and frend to see if they care for you...
BUT THINK..it's regarding money. I'm not rich..my family and frend too... and I got them to pay for such product... to be frank. I have been sleeping on the magnetic bed for 2 years.. but dun seem to work on me.. as I still suffer body ache.. I brought the matt coz I believe my body need it.. and part of it..I hoping to find a work.. but realise it's all a mistake...
THIS IS SINGAPORE... if money can so easy to make..our goverment had already invested..long time ago...
what can a MLM company provide us??
No CPF? while everyone need for home and health
I'm not a great fans of PAP.But all these a main to make us in... but at least we can benefit some of it out from from our dear goverment.. BUT FOR MLM. company??!!!.. I believe NOTHING..
trust without harm..
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Yes thats rite, they never give. only pay commission and thats it. just a newly join agent will only get 8% of the sales they get. the cheapes product i think is around S$150.Originally posted by devoid05:i heard that they didn't give those poly attachment students their wages as stipulated...
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i think there was a case last time, one poly student who posted he or she could not get wages or something from VE...
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How come they also got poly attachment 1? can any 1 tell me abt it??Originally posted by devoid05:i heard that they didn't give those poly attachment students their wages as stipulated...
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donch noe, u gotta search ard the forum, got one topic on it...Originally posted by Luv_u:How come they also got poly attachment 1? can any 1 tell me abt it?? -
Hey sorry i won`t ppl i m from which holdings of DW cause i dun feel pround to say ppl i was in DW. Anyway the so-called outlet of DW e.g. LW, Gaint, Turf are all not regsist under Regsistation Of Company(ROC). Alot of the thing in DW are cheating on ppl, if u all believe DW will make it, i m very sorry all this are just a bull of shit. Many of our friend in DW are still asking money from their parent, wat is this? is this fifial peity? NO, it is not. some of our friend there are own bank money and some are loaning money from loan shark. And some lucky 1 are still using their saving. Even some of the JVD do not even have money and they are loaning alot of money from bank.Originally posted by singlish04:Hi Luv_u,
I wonder you are from which outlet... LW? Gaint? Truf? or.. so and so... are you still in the company or out? -
if you are not in DW, how do you know all these things inside the company?
Is it what you heard or really a fact?
Just want to know the truth. Pls do not be offended.