Which are the latest MLM?
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haha.. i'm thinking about discussing about some new MLM companies in Singapore. Why do you think it's good or why did you chose it?
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there are more???
they're spreading everywhere!! like the Black Plague!! -
muahaha.. i think there are more...
it is the trend now mahz... even some prestigious are trying out MLM system.. haha... -
Amway!Originally posted by flylutes:haha.. i'm thinking about discussing about some new MLM companies in Singapore. Why do you think it's good or why did you chose it? 
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lets discuss amway and herbalife!
i think amway system sux and herbalife product dont worth the money. any comments?? -
Which 'some prestigious are trying out MLM system'? Can you advise?Originally posted by flylutes:muahaha.. i think there are more... it is the trend now mahz... even some prestigious are trying out MLM system.. haha... -
How do you class them as new?
New in Singapore or new in the whole world?
How many years is it to consider new?
& Why discuss new companies when are they not even stablised?
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haha.. i'm thinking about discussing about some new MLM companies in Singapore. Why do you think it's good or why did you chose it?Originally posted by stormax:How do you class them as new?
New in Singapore or new in the whole world?
How many years is it to consider new?
& Why discuss new companies when are they not even stablised?
maybe a year or 2? In Singapore. What do you mean by not established? It's usually the people who joined the yet to be established company.. and tt's the ppl who can get rich..
From my friend, Starhub is trying out. Getting this ppl to approach other ppl like their frens o wad to sign up for their services and all tt.
haha.. wad does amway do? Any idea?
Herbalife ar.. haha.. me trying it's product now.. hm.. tried for only 3 days.. haha.. so can't say yet.. but i like the taste.. haha.. nice flavors.. lolx.. -
haha.. i'm thinking about discussing about some new MLM companies in Singapore. Why do you think it's good or why did you chose it?Originally posted by stormax:How do you class them as new?
New in Singapore or new in the whole world?
How many years is it to consider new?
& Why discuss new companies when are they not even stablised?
maybe a year or 2? In Singapore. What do you mean by not established? It's usually the people who joined the yet to be established company.. and tt's the ppl who can get rich..
From my friend, Starhub is trying out. Getting this ppl to approach other ppl like their frens o wad to sign up for their services and all tt.
haha.. wad does amway do? Any idea?
Herbalife ar.. haha.. me trying it's product now.. hm.. tried for only 3 days.. haha.. so can't say yet.. but i like the taste.. haha.. nice flavors.. lolx.. -
sorry dude,Originally posted by Alex Wong:lets discuss amway and herbalife!
i think amway system sux and herbalife product dont worth the money. any comments??
I don't agree with this.
Amway is the largest MLM in the world, business in more than 80 countries.
DO you think people in these countires are stupid? Amway Japan & Amway Korea are the leaders fo Amway Asia.
Do you think Japanese & Koreans are nuts?
If you say Amway System sux, then why Nakajima in Japan manage to make it to Triple Crown Ambassador? Why Leonard Kim in Korea manage to create more than 400 new diamond directs in a year?
I believe it is just the matter that are you able to make money from Amway, if you failed to do so , of course you say amway sux.
Amway International creates a turnover of USD4.9 billion, are there any MLM company creates a annual sales more than USD4.9billion?
Case if no, then IF Amway SUX, what are the others?
cheers
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Nuskin is MLM also rite? anyone use their products before? heard its real good and pretty successful?
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hahhaa.. such a greenhorn! annual turnover at 4.9billion. but over 1 million agents worldwide. so each agent only making $4900 per year? oh my god!!!!!!! what the hell is the so called best company in the world doing???? no wonder all my amway friends say that they cant earn money.....
what you comparing is the less than 0.01% that is successful.. but the true fact is... almost all amway agents cant earn that amount. so please wake up your fucking idea and stop painting such wonderful picture to misled so many audience here.Originally posted by jedi:sorry dude,
I don't agree with this.
Amway is the largest MLM in the world, business in more than 80 countries.
DO you think people in these countires are stupid? Amway Japan & Amway Korea are the leaders fo Amway Asia.
Do you think Japanese & Koreans are nuts?
If you say Amway System sux, then why Nakajima in Japan manage to make it to Triple Crown Ambassador? Why Leonard Kim in Korea manage to create more than 400 new diamond directs in a year?
I believe it is just the matter that are you able to make money from Amway, if you failed to do so , of course you say amway sux.
Amway International creates a turnover of USD4.9 billion, are there any MLM company creates a annual sales more than USD4.9billion?
Case if no, then IF Amway SUX, what are the others?
cheers -
Originally posted by Alex Wong:
you are the person that mislead others, not me.
hahhaa.. such a greenhorn! annual turnover at 4.9billion. but over 1 million agents worldwide. so each agent only making $4900 per year? oh my god!!!!!!! what the hell is the so called best company in the world doing???? no wonder all my amway friends say that they cant earn money.....
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although Amway registered distributor worldwide have 3 million dist, but 95% of them are users only, not active distributors.
example in Malaysia, total amount of distributors around 153,000, but active dist. are around 10,000.
In a normal corporate life, a company with 50 employees will have to pay at least $200,000 per month for salary, so is that mean each employee gets $4,000? no right?
it should be GM gets $30,000, Manager level gets $7,000 and so on.
so same in Amway, you cannot take the turnover & divide by total amount of distributors!! you should be aware of active distributors, semi active distributos and also user only distributors.
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wa... even worse! as what you said amway have 3 million agents world wide...it means one agent get only $1600 a year !!!!!!Originally posted by jedi:you are the person that mislead others, not me.
although Amway registered distributor worldwide have 3 million dist, but 95% of them are users only, not active distributors.
example in Malaysia, total amount of distributors around 153,000, but active dist. are around 10,000.
In a normal corporate life, a company with 50 employees will have to pay at least $200,000 per month for salary, so is that mean each employee gets $4,000? no right?
it should be GM gets $30,000, Manager level gets $7,000 and so on.
so same in Amway, you cannot take the turnover & divide by total amount of distributors!! you should be aware of active distributors, semi active distributos and also user only distributors.
cheers!!
ok... you argue that some will get more and some will get less. so i assume an agent get $1600 a month which come up with $19200 a year... it means that only 255000 agents are making that money and 2,700,000 people are making $0 !!!!!!!!!
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wow!! u are trying to mislead others again & again!!Originally posted by Alex Wong:wa... even worse! as what you said amway have 3 million agents world wide...it means one agent get only $1600 a year !!!!!!
ok... you argue that some will get more and some will get less. so i assume an agent get $1600 a month which come up with $19200 a year... it means that only 255000 agents are making that money and 2,700,000 people are making $0 !!!!!!!!!
no wonder my friend so long still cant see money in amway!!
and yes, 255,000 agents are making money, BUT 2,700,000 dist. are not doing anything, they are just consuming those products. if you think that you can make money by joining Amway, than you are absolutely wrong. You join in without putting in any effort, you get nothing other than a membership.
as per your calculation, a agent can make USD19,200 per annual, it's S$32,717.50 per annual. So is it a good idea if you are able to make additional of S$32,717.50 per annual? I believe that most people can't even make S$32k per annual!!
this is the same as Hypermarket, you spend & buy all your products from hypermarket, but u get nothing, because you are just a consumer.
but the 255,000 agent that are making money is because they not only consume, but they produce, they are ProSumer!! -
whaahahaha....
then what is amway talking about financial freedom blah blah blah to paint such a nice scenario to people???
if amway is just like NTUC Fairprice... then say so lah... why lure people with promises of financial freedom and big houses and cars.... -
fren,Originally posted by Alex Wong:whaahahaha....
then what is amway talking about financial freedom blah blah blah to paint such a nice scenario to people???
if amway is just like NTUC Fairprice... then say so lah... why lure people with promises of financial freedom and big houses and cars....
I think u mistaken another thing.
Amway did NOT promise any financial freedom or big houses or anything. Since when you see any documents from Amway stated that you can be financial freedom after you JOIN Amway? No, rite?
We always tell our distributors, NO FREE LUNCH IN THIS WORLD.
Amway gives a opportunity for you to make your own way to your own destinations.
Again, this is a fair opportunity, how much effort you put in, how much reward you will get.
I believe that many people join in MLM is because of the products, or some just to support friends.
That's why you can see, many people join in MLM, but little people really FIGHT for it. There is a HUGE difference between JOIN and FIGHT.
If you really wanna see things from the bad side, then conventional business also not as good as MLM business. Why?
We can see many software house that develop third party software, but which owner of the software house is richer than Bill Gates? Thus many software house closed down due to pirated copy and etc.
In MLM business, although 10% people successfully made their way, but at least the 90% people didn't lose much. The joining fees of MLM business are far far lesser than setting up a convention business. maybe around S$100. The company will absorb the operation fees & delivery charges plus storage area rental. All you need to do is just to use the products & share with friends.
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hahaha... but sad to say.. most people in amway are looking for financial freedom. they must be very disappointed after so many years of hard work but little result.
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yes!! you are right, my friend!!Originally posted by Alex Wong:hahaha... but sad to say.. most people in amway are looking for financial freedom. they must be very disappointed after so many years of hard work but little result.
BUT everyone in this world, not only in Amway, are looking for financial freedom & uncommon freedom!! aren't you?
under employment, we try to fight for higher position, from clerical level to executive level, then to manager level or even director level. But do remember one thing, many people disappointed after many years of working and finally get nothing other than EPF or CPF.
So, people will look for a opportunity, they will try to be a businessman!! they run their own business!!
now, business start up with huge capital, have to face tonnes of competitors... if lucky enough, maybe can survive, else we can see every year many company close down and many new companies setup.
Many people always say, "how many people able to make it in Amway, many people fail!!"
same in our life my fren... in a huge corporate like Sony or Panasonic, how many GM are there? how many MD are there?
How many BIll Gates are there in this world?
Should we tell ourself, there will always be one and the only one Bill Gates in this world, we are NOT Bill Gates... OR should we tell ourself, we will beat Bill Gates and be the richest man in the world?
So now, let's calculate the lost of these opportunity. although running a business & run Amway business both need extra effort, but let's calculate the lost if failed.
To start a business, you need at least S$200,000, this is inclusive of rental, renovations, air-cond, showroom and stockup some products.
in Amway, u need less than S$100 to start up. if you wanna do it fast & profitable, top up your capital around S$1000 and keep some products for sale.
In terms of market, if you run a company in Singapore and you would like to conquer China or India market, you will have to setup a branch there! you will have to pay for all the expenses & you will have to monitor then closely.
But in Amway, all you need is just a air ticket. Buy a flight ticket to China, you can start do sponsoring and selling there!!
Can you see the difference of paying S$200,000 to start up a business in Singapore and S$100 to start up a business in worldwide 80 countries? -
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i'm saying again... majority amway agents cant make good money after many years of hard work.
Originally posted by jedi:
[b]yes!! you are right, my friend!!
BUT everyone in this world, not only in Amway, are looking for financial freedom & uncommon freedom!! aren't you?
under employment, we try to fight for higher position, from clerical level to executive level, then to manager level or even director level. But do remember one thing, many people disappointed after many years of working and finally get nothing other than EPF or CPF.
So, people will look for a opportunity, they will try to be a businessman!! they run their own business!!
now, business start up with huge capital, have to face tonnes of competitors... if lucky enough, maybe can survive, else we can see every year many company close down and many new companies setup.
Many people always say, "how many people able to make it in Amway, many people fail!!"
same in our life my fren... in a huge corporate like Sony or Panasonic, how many GM are there? how many MD are there?
How many BIll Gates are there in this world?
Should we tell ourself, there will always be one and the only one Bill Gates in this world, we are NOT Bill Gates... OR should we tell ourself, we will beat Bill Gates and be the richest man in the world?
So now, let's calculate the lost of these opportunity. although running a business & run Amway business both need extra effort, but let's calculate the lost if failed.
To start a business, you need at least S$200,000, this is inclusive of rental, renovations, air-cond, showroom and stockup some products.
in Amway, u need less than S$100 to start up. if you wanna do it fast & profitable, top up your capital around S$1000 and keep some products for sale.
In terms of market, if you run a company in Singapore and you would like to conquer China or India market, you will have to setup a branch there! you will have to pay for all the expenses & you will have to monitor then closely.
But in Amway, all you need is just a air ticket. Buy a flight ticket to China, you can start do sponsoring and selling there!!
Can you see the difference of paying S$200,000 to start up a business in Singapore and S$100 to start up a business in worldwide 80 countries?[/b] -
same thing, majority (more than 99.99%) of people can't be GM after 35 years of employment life.Originally posted by Alex Wong:i'm saying again... majority amway agents cant make good money after many years of hard work.
Can you please tell me that what industry can guarantee make good money after few years of hard work? any industry can guarantee at least 10% of their agent/employee making good money?
Amway turnover USD4.9billion, so you say your fren can't make money. Let's think, is it the company problem or is it your fren problem?
USD4.9billion already there, is just the matter that are you able to take some from there.
So is it Amway's problem or is it your friend personal problem?
yes, I do agree that some agent can't make any money after hard work. BUT WHY??
this is not the problem of the industry or the company, this is the problem of the agent, the way they do it.
That's why now BRITT Worldwide Education System, the 6-4-2 system were introduced in Malaysia & Singapore.
Britt System running worldwide more than 50 countries.
Britt System teaches us how to do things with a system and how to follow the system.
Leonard Kim from Korea manage to produce 400 new diamonds in year 2003, 200 new diamonds in year 2002 and 100+ new diamonds in year 2001. From here we can see, with the support from BRITT System, your business are able to double up easily.
If you still insist to look at those failure in this industry, then you should continue on your job.
Regardless how good is Amway, we do need someone to calculate our account, to manage bank for us. So we need some professional like you, that are willing to work until 55 years old and get home with CPF for few hundred thousand.
CONTINUE ON YOUR JOB & DO IT WELL, I WILL NEED YOU ONE DAY, BABY... -
hmm....not the company problem. it is the agents problem because sooo many agents are being blindfolded with empty promises of getting rich.
sad to say.. majority of the agents got problems...
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frankly speaking, nice to talk to you, but it is a bit boring when explaning to you. I am like talking to a stone or to a wall.Originally posted by Alex Wong:hmm....not the company problem. it is the agents problem because sooo many agents are being blindfolded with empty promises of getting rich.
sad to say.. majority of the agents got problems...
many agents promise themself to be financial & time freedom. But what they did at first stage?
Although Amway product give us 100% Money Back Satisfaction Guaranteed, but this doesn't mean that Amway provide 100% time & financial freedom guaranteed!
Amway is just a tool, it is a good & very potential tool. But how you use it, and the way or method that u use it, will directly affect your result.
Many people think that, MLM is to get some downline, then boost them go sell products until they reach some level, then you are successful. Or some even worst, they start to sponsor some friends (less than 10), then they start to wait for the time to become a Diamond Direct.
hey, remember one thing, NO FREE LUNCH IN THIS WORLD. -
lets study the compernsation plan first