Make Money in MLM? Very Difficult!!!
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1) When assessing an MLM company, ask yourself this question:
“ Would I buy those products at those prices if not for the
opportunity to make money?”(ie. Does the products give you quality corresponding to the price paid?)
2) Treat buying MLM products at distributor price as an alternative retail shopping experience
Most people would purchase the shampoo (toxin-filled chemicals) available at retail outlet without suspicion. But try asking them to buy a shampoo (toxin-free) distributed from an MLM company, they will immediately raise questions on the safety and credibility of the product.
This shows the effective of portraying a sexy, stunning lady with shiny, ‘healthy’ hair strolling down the hall on the advertisements. (when MLM don’t advertise)
3) DonÂ’t attend the talk/seminar organized for distributor, obtain product knowledge from the website.
They brainwash the distributors such that they will keep purchasing the grossly-overpriced products even though no sales is made.
My sister-in-law quit her $6,000 monthly job and go into MLM full-time. One year in MLM, the venture is not profitable, she becomes a Property agent to supplement her income.
4) Waste Money
My friend joins Bel-Air recently & purchase $2,000 worth of essential oil. Wonder if she manages to clear any stock by now. -
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same like you, i cant deny the fact that most products distributed by MLM companies are good... i think you have raised a good point, most people are in for the money, but earning it is indeed not easy... so its back to the same old phrase, 'money isnt everything, but we cant do without money' sigh... sad life...
i just hope people who join MLM and really wanna share the good products with people is more than enough, bringing people to talks and pressing people to join just irks me... -
most mlm organisation seems to use a samiliar method to try and convince ppl - "the product is good, so, you are doing a good deed by getting ppl to use them".
if the product so good and want to help ppl, why sell so expensively? if multi-level commission is required, who paying for the commissions? if really want to help ppl, what happened if the person find it very beneficial but unable to sustain the buying power; would this encourage the person to find means to get money by "unethical" manner?
i think if the person is greedy for money, just say so when doing the presentation y beat around the bush. -
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who beat who around the bush? -
Originally posted by health_toxinfree:
Why are you so negative in your thinking? What is really your opinion of MLM? Do not state when you do not fully understand.
1) When assessing an MLM company, ask yourself this question:
[b] “ Would I buy those products at those prices if not for the
opportunity to make money?”(ie. Does the products give you quality corresponding to the price paid?)
2) Treat buying MLM products at distributor price as an alternative retail shopping experience
Most people would purchase the shampoo (toxin-filled chemicals) available at retail outlet without suspicion. But try asking them to buy a shampoo (toxin-free) distributed from an MLM company, they will immediately raise questions on the safety and credibility of the product.
This shows the effective of portraying a sexy, stunning lady with shiny, ‘healthy’ hair strolling down the hall on the advertisements. (when MLM don’t advertise)
3) DonÂ’t attend the talk/seminar organized for distributor, obtain product knowledge from the website.
They brainwash the distributors such that they will keep purchasing the grossly-overpriced products even though no sales is made.
My sister-in-law quit her $6,000 monthly job and go into MLM full-time. One year in MLM, the venture is not profitable, she becomes a Property agent to supplement her income.
4) Waste Money
My friend joins Bel-Air recently & purchase $2,000 worth of essential oil. Wonder if she manages to clear any stock by now.
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Do you know that advertisement cost a big boom to create awareness, it doesn't mean that they will be getting as much sales from there. Who are those who are paying for all these expenses? It's not the company, it's us - the consumers.
If consumers are new to your products, it'll be your responsibilities to educate them, just like plane and insurance. If no one educate us on plane, do you think the air industry is so well done? If no insurance agents educate us, do you think everyone will know the importance of a policy?
Do you think the information in the website are 100% accurate? In additional , info on the website are always very surface and not much details. Why not ask the experts in the field then?
Unless you are force to buy, then it's your choice to make decision.
Do they really brainwash the distributors or do the distributors see things that you can't?
In additional, is it the monthly maintenance or the systems or the company that is having problems or the distributor himself is a problem? There are many considerations to make before joining a company.
Whether did your friend clear her stock in Bel'air or she didn't? Did they have a way for her to retail or distribute? Why don't you just ask her?
No money comes easy like falling from the sky!
Do not put the blame of others onto yourself; Do not put the blame of yours onto others; Do not put the blame of yours onto yourself
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Originally posted by stormax:
Why are you so negative in your thinking? What is really your opinion of MLM? Do not state when you do not fully understand.
it's not that we do not understand. It's cos' MLM companies nv really try to explain properly and openly abt their products. Apart from the well-known fact that MLM products are grossly over priced.
Do you know that advertisement cost a big boom to create awareness, it doesn't mean that they will be getting as much sales from there. Who are those who are paying for all these expenses? It's not the company, it's us - the consumers.
Yes consumers do pay a % of advertising costs. But look at it this way, If everyone sells their products like MLM companies does, wouldnt you be "killing" n shutting down the advertising industry? where will revenue come from to help tv stations or radio stations to help provide entertainment? It's a commercial cycle that has to go on. Apart from just entertainment, what about other sponsors for charities? what about the amount of people who will be out of jobs?
If consumers are new to your products, it'll be your responsibilities to educate them, just like plane and insurance. If no one educate us on plane, do you think the air industry is so well done? If no insurance agents educate us, do you think everyone will know the importance of a policy?
U think airlines do not advertise? and insurance companies doesnt? PLEASE!!!!!! we see them on TV or hear them on radios.
Do you think the information in the website are 100% accurate? In additional , info on the website are always very surface and not much details. Why not ask the experts in the field then?
Well no one said that info from anywhere is 100% accurate. Not even the newspapers ok... well info from MLM companies are very surface as well
If we need to ask experts for information, does that mean that everyone who works in MLM companies are really experts?
Unless you are force to buy, then it's your choice to make decision.
Do they really brainwash the distributors or do the distributors see things that you can't?
Well naive housewives and some people might be brainwashed into buying...
In additional, is it the monthly maintenance or the systems or the company that is having problems or the distributor himself is a problem? There are many considerations to make before joining a company.
Well wat u mention here abt considerations to be made before joining, true, but isnt everything we do in life so? sigh... give me a better reason pls...
Whether did your friend clear her stock in Bel'air or she didn't? Did they have a way for her to retail or distribute? Why don't you just ask her?
Well even if there is, I m sure its at a really discounted price wouldnt it?
No money comes easy like falling from the sky!
Yes money doesnt. But it doesnt come from joining MLM either.
Just my humble views on MLM... something which I could nv convince myself that it is something good.... Never before, Not now and in future I hv no idea.
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Do not put the blame of others onto yourself; Do not put the blame of yours onto others; Do not put the blame of yours onto yourself [/b] -
But look at it this way, If everyone sells their products like MLM companies does, wouldnt you be "killing" n shutting down the advertising industry? where will revenue come from to help tv stations or radio stations to help provide entertainment? It's a commercial cycle that has to go on. Apart from just entertainment, what about other sponsors for charities? what about the amount of people who will be out of jobs?
So... what about the govt? Like HBD, SIA, they are retrenching staff to cut down on expenses. How many people have been out of job due to having MLM companies?
Both MLM and advertising will be around in the world. Even in USA, both have been around for so many years. So why make sure only one can work? Even local govt has recognised that there will be 25% increment in MLM indsutry. I believed both will work well hand-in-hand, just like IBM, Toyota, both are working well for them.
In all other countries, their advertisting, entertainment and even charities,etc still work well despite having MLM companies for so many years.
If you can't convince yourself it works, it'll never work no matter how successful it will be. Whether it works or not, it will have nothing to do as from the first place, you are not even willing to open up yourself and look into it. Even for people who are willing to explain properly and openly, are you open enough to listen to them?
I guessed you really don't know what I'm pointing to... who educate people of new things? How many people actually complain about fast food resturants when they first appear? Btw, I have NEVER say that it's due to MLM companies. If you are feeling that whatever written is pointed to MLM companies, then I think you are really in the wrong frequency I have also NEVER stated that people who are working in MLM companies are really experts.
Never did any stated are on MLM too. It's on mindset and how you look at things......... So PLEASE Keep your mind open and stop complaining that no one actually bother to explain to you Because your mind are soooooooo close. -
1) Supporter of
good MLM products, but the price is steep!!!
Contary to what you say, I am a user of Neways and Newlife products (both are MLM), which focus on toxin-free products.
I am satisfied with the products except the price charge is kind of steep, for instance the Ultrashine Radiance Toothpaste (175g) costs $16.20 (equivalent to $.093), whereas Newlife El-Natural Toothpaste (100g) costs $7.80 (equivalent to $0.07
Aquafresh toothpaste (181g) merely costs a negligible $2.70 (equivalent to $0.015). To convince someone to purchase the toothpaste distributed by the MLM, definitely you need the MLM distributor to explain the harmful ingredients present in the product over-the-counter.
(a) Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS)
is an industrial garage floor cleaner. SLS builds up in the eyes, brain, heart and liver and stays in the body for up to 5 days. (American College of Toxicity Reports)
(b) Fluoride is an industrial waste-by-product
(source: The ABC of Disease by Philip Day). Fluoride can cause bone cancer and increases the rate of oral cancer. (Spotlight, May 1992)
Most Singaporeans are unwilling to pay a premium for the MLM products because they trust the relevant authorities will ensure the safety of ingredients in the products that are sold in Singapore.
Try telling someone fluoride is categorized as protoplasmic poison, and are used to kill rodents.
(http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/1999/07/fluoride1.htm) He will probably ask you why the water in Singapore is fluoridated.
Do MLM provide such information to the distributors during the training session???
2) Rationale for the purchase
Forever Living requires the distributor to purchase $500 worth of products before they can sponsor other distributors. Pls refers to Queen_of_rain comment under the subject, "Forever living products". I know Neways and Newlife does not have such policy.
Are you a distributor of MLM? If you do? Pls enlighten me on the practice on sponsorship.
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No authorities will ensure the safety. The only one that is enforced with a law is in electric appliances. It is alright to sell anything, however it's the responsible for the dealers if anything goes wrong. As for consumers, it is your duty that you are aware of what you are consuming/ using.
Even some of the products on the shelves or MLM companies have harmful contents. Not all companies including MLM & non-MLM are concerned of the side effects and the result of consuming or using them.
Maybe the next time someone ask you about flouride, you can tell them about Antibiotic then. It's the same theory. I guess you are telling your friends about how good are the products you are using when questions are thrown to you? Check out if the companies where you are using their products have such training then.
Presently, there are 300++ MLM companies locally, everyone of them has "different" range of products, compensation plan, training, presentation, etc,etc. Most companies are not exactly the same. So if you asking about "Do MLM provide such information to the distributors during the training session???", then I think you have to ask which company and what do they deal with. Some do and some don't.
As for Rationale for the purchase,as I have said different companies have different policies. If you are asking about "Forever Living requires the distributor to purchase $500 worth of products before they can sponsor other distributors." Though I'm not from Forever Living, I believed that it might be one of the few reasons below.
Reasons being: 1- To try and be comfortable with the products, more confidence in using and telling people.
2 - To control the distributors and consumers.
3- To prevent their members to only recruiting members thus resulting in pyramid.
A distributor of MLM is not the same as a distributor in a MLM company. Most distributors from different companies do not usually understand every single one out there.
Since you are using products from Neways and Newlife , why not ask them about practice on sponsorship? Sorry to mention this again, different companies have different explanation on it.
I will recommend a book to you if you are so keen in knowing more. It's Wave 4 : Network Marketing in the 21st Century. By Richard Poe. There are more than what are written, however it'll be a basic of understanding MLM then.
If you want to clear more doubts, I don't mind helping.
Originally posted by health_toxinfree:
[b]1) Supporter of good MLM products, but the price is steep!!!
Contary to what you say, I am a user of Neways and Newlife products (both are MLM), which focus on toxin-free products.
I am satisfied with the products except the price charge is kind of steep, for instance the Ultrashine Radiance Toothpaste (175g) costs $16.20 (equivalent to $.093), whereas Newlife El-Natural Toothpaste (100g) costs $7.80 (equivalent to $0.07
Aquafresh toothpaste (181g) merely costs a negligible $2.70 (equivalent to $0.015). To convince someone to purchase the toothpaste distributed by the MLM, definitely you need the MLM distributor to explain the harmful ingredients present in the product over-the-counter.
(a) Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) is an industrial garage floor cleaner. SLS builds up in the eyes, brain, heart and liver and stays in the body for up to 5 days. (American College of Toxicity Reports)
(b) Fluoride is an industrial waste-by-product
(source: The ABC of Disease by Philip Day). Fluoride can cause bone cancer and increases the rate of oral cancer. (Spotlight, May 1992)
Most Singaporeans are unwilling to pay a premium for the MLM products because they trust the relevant authorities will ensure the safety of ingredients in the products that are sold in Singapore.
Try telling someone fluoride is categorized as protoplasmic poison, and are used to kill rodents.
(http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/1999/07/fluoride1.htm) He will probably ask you why the water in Singapore is fluoridated.
Do MLM provide such information to the distributors during the training session???
2) Rationale for the purchase
Forever Living requires the distributor to purchase $500 worth of products before they can sponsor other distributors. Pls refers to Queen_of_rain comment under the subject, "Forever living products". I know Neways and Newlife does not have such policy.
Are you a distributor of MLM? If you do? Pls enlighten me on the practice on sponsorship.
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Hi this is my 1st post here. Have a question i wanna ask you guys.
I've not had any exp in the MLM market coz i've been in the saf for most of my working life. I've come across this other MLM http://wgilifestylers.com would you guys give your comment about it? Please don't flame me -
Hi,Originally posted by TomLim:Hi this is my 1st post here. Have a question i wanna ask you guys.
I've not had any exp in the MLM market coz i've been in the saf for most of my working life. I've come across this other MLM http://wgilifestylers.com would you guys give your comment about it? Please don't flame me
Don't worry!
I have went to the website you have stated and checked thoroughly for you.
In a very simple advice... Don't join! It's a scram!!
Most of these type don't last long. Most of them are not even what they claimed to be. It's not as easy and long lasting as it seems to be, especially it's a binary system. In binary system, it doesn't "pay more to the people who work hard and at lower levels " like it has stated in the website.
Regardingly about the visual stock or cyber wall street..... it's written very nicely that there are only rise and no fall. It's only a computer games with figures. It might seems to spread fast and might even have great internet features or video conference to show how wonderful the whole thing works, yet I have seen real examples in S'pore and overseas markets that they didn't last long enough for you to realise that they are gone.
If you want to join one, understand more of the companies, the marketing plan, the products, the future. Don't be bluffed by the appearance!
If you want to know what is Binary Plan, can check it out at http://www.networkmarketingnews.com/issues/is5_p2.htm
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My two cents opinion, I always thought it's crazy for someone to go full time on MLM when you have just started, unless you are living on someone's income or completely no income or just very well off.
MLM is a part time business which normally takes 2- 5 years to build, depends solely on the individuals. If anyone promised you that you can have overnight success, don't do it. Jim Rohn said it.
I have adopted Jim Rohn's philoshophy " I'm working full time on my job and I'm working part time on my fortune". So, I'm building my fortune and I do not want to work so hard on it then something happen, everything is gone. What about you? Choose the right company and choose wisely. Cheers. -
I agree fully.Originally posted by benwong99:My two cents opinion, I always thought it's crazy for someone to go full time on MLM when you have just started, unless you are living on someone's income or completely no income or just very well off.
MLM is a part time business which normally takes 2- 5 years to build, depends solely on the individuals. If anyone promised you that you can have overnight success, don't do it. Jim Rohn said it.
I have adopted Jim Rohn's philoshophy " I'm working full time on my job and I'm working part time on my fortune". So, I'm building my fortune and I do not want to work so hard on it then something happen, everything is gone. What about you? Choose the right company and choose wisely. Cheers.
Many tot its a get rich quick scheme, but in fact its a get rich quicker scheme.
Worse, some people recognise this, yet jumping into MLM hoping, subconciously, to make fast bucks
Sigh. Few months is too short, but ten years is too long.Sigh.... -
Have you guys heard of Amway?
They are always going on about the cost per unit..
URGH.. their washing detergent costs A$60+
supposedly it will outlast the supermarket brands.
But they are so full of RARA .. so and so had made millions out of this pyramid selling.
I reckon their stuff are so steep to pay off all these people that joined. My firned keeps asking me to go into it. I'm like. eErmmm.. NO. -
My small opinion:Originally posted by benwong99:My two cents opinion, I always thought it's crazy for someone to go full time on MLM when you have just started, unless you are living on someone's income or completely no income or just very well off.
MLM is a part time business which normally takes 2- 5 years to build, depends solely on the individuals. If anyone promised you that you can have overnight success, don't do it. Jim Rohn said it.
I have adopted Jim Rohn's philoshophy " I'm working full time on my job and I'm working part time on my fortune". So, I'm building my fortune and I do not want to work so hard on it then something happen, everything is gone. What about you? Choose the right company and choose wisely. Cheers.
MLM might be a part time concept, yet never closed up that there might be a good MLM business that you can do full-time. The world is changing so fast, so anything might happen.
Of course, there are no instant success overnight, yet I don't deny that there might be in short term.
Jim Rohn's philoshophy might be good. However how much risk are you willing to take? How far are you looking at when you are choosing a company. Following strictly to one's philoshophy might not be an good idea, it's just like history. Are you living in the past or future?
Finally, as you are worried that something might happen, you are not even trusting your own judgement and the company you are in. You wont be into full force to make your career in it.
If you see it, grab the chance as there might not be a second chance. Failure make a person learn and experience, yet are they positive or negative ones, it'll be up to you to decide. -
one word 'saturated'
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it make me laugh. please explain more.Originally posted by kopiosatu:one word 'saturated' -
Some questions for people in the "alternative" solution in the healthcare industry.
1. If the industry is filled with products extensively laced with cancer causing ingredients, then why aren't people dropping like flies. I would assume that since the public in general use such products, the occurence of cancer would have jumped many-folds. Does anyone has any data on the supposed increase in occurence of cancer over the recent years?
2. Is the cost of producing "alternative" solutions so expensive that the price of such products are ALWAYS much higher than the "harmful" products. Why not go the advertising route and sell the products so everyone can benefit from the "healthy" solutions.
To others interested, you may refer to the following link for more information: http://www.snopes.com/toxins/shampoo.htm. You will also find within this page, reference to other credible organisations that disprove the allegations that SLS is harmful.
Realistically, anything chemical taken in excessive amount is harmful. Even Vitamin C is not good if one consumes too much of it. The crux of the matter is a simple understanding of the concentration level of any given chemical. -
eh? simple word need explanation?Originally posted by Alex Wong:it make me laugh. please explain more.
oh well, let u work ur brains a little... THINK ABOUT IT -
well.. after i think about it.. it makes me laugh.Originally posted by kopiosatu:eh? simple word need explanation?
oh well, let u work ur brains a little... THINK ABOUT IT -
For your information, there was an increase in cancer cases, yet it is not known that the reason being using cancer causing products. There are many factors into each individual patient. It's like mercury that wont kill you instantly in very small amount yet it might caused a very slow death or it won't. Some of the companies have their focus in trying to "reduce" the rate of getting cancer.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Some questions for people in the "alternative" solution in the healthcare industry.
1. If the industry is filled with products extensively laced with cancer causing ingredients, then why aren't people dropping like flies. I would assume that since the public in general use such products, the occurence of cancer would have jumped many-folds. Does anyone has any data on the supposed increase in occurence of cancer over the recent years?
2. Is the cost of producing "alternative" solutions so expensive that the price of such products are ALWAYS much higher than the "harmful" products. Why not go the advertising route and sell the products so everyone can benefit from the "healthy" solutions.
To others interested, you may refer to the following link for more information: http://www.snopes.com/toxins/shampoo.htm. You will also find within this page, reference to other credible organisations that disprove the allegations that SLS is harmful.
Realistically, anything chemical taken in excessive amount is harmful. Even Vitamin C is not good if one consumes too much of it. The crux of the matter is a simple understanding of the concentration level of any given chemical.
As for your second question, I think is strange to ask....With the "ingredient" better quality and more money spent to manufacture the products, do you think it's worth it? Imagine that there are 2 bottles of vitamin C on the shelf, one is price $20 and the other is $5. Which one will you buy? You know that the $20 is more effective, will you still purchase the $5 one? Do you know that there are different types of vitamin C? So how do you know what type and grade is added?
The product is already so expensive, into advertisting route, the price might increase even more. In addition, do you think most people will buy because there are advertisement? Adverstisement do bring the awareness of the products, however will you buy something for example a NEW Nokia mobile phone when your friend bought and strongly recommend it? Or just the advertisement?
disprove the allegations that SLS is harmful.... in which side will you be in? If you are the manufacturer, will you agree that what you have added causes cancer? If you do, then receiving letter from lawyers are common. If you are the consumer, will you dare to purchase something that even the manufacturer declares that it's causing cancer. So if no one buy their products, the company will close and file for bankruptcy.
Just like cigarettes, do you know that though is well known that smoking cause cancer, the manufacturer has not officially announced it and the legal case continues till today. There are lots of law cases against them from cancer patients.
Of course, it's easy to say that not to take excessive amount. But the important thing is how much is enough or excess? The body will be able to get rid some of the "chemical" daily, while the rest stay in the body. Unless you are in the medical field, you wont be able to really have "simple understanding of the concentration level of any given chemical", especially there are so many chemical used in daily products. Even anti-biotic is another chemical mixture and how many of us are consuming it frequently? What's the concentration of it then? -
x2Originally posted by Alex Wong:well.. after i think about it.. it makes me laugh. -
Originally posted by stormax:For your information, there was an increase in cancer cases, yet it is not known that the reason being using cancer causing products. There are many factors into each individual patient. It's like mercury that wont kill you instantly in very small amount yet it might caused a very slow death or it won't. Some of the companies have their focus in trying to "reduce" the rate of getting cancer.
As for your second question, I think is strange to ask....With the "ingredient" better quality and more money spent to manufacture the products, do you think it's worth it? Imagine that there are 2 bottles of vitamin C on the shelf, one is price $20 and the other is $5. Which one will you buy? You know that the $20 is more effective, will you still purchase the $5 one? Do you know that there are different types of vitamin C? So how do you know what type and grade is added?
The product is already so expensive, into advertisting route, the price might increase even more. In addition, do you think most people will buy because there are advertisement? Adverstisement do bring the awareness of the products, however will you buy something for example a NEW Nokia mobile phone when your friend bought and strongly recommend it? Or just the advertisement?
disprove the allegations that SLS is harmful.... in which side will you be in? If you are the manufacturer, will you agree that what you have added causes cancer? If you do, then receiving letter from lawyers are common. If you are the consumer, will you dare to purchase something that even the manufacturer declares that it's causing cancer. So if no one buy their products, the company will close and file for bankruptcy.
Just like cigarettes, do you know that though is well known that smoking cause cancer, the manufacturer has not officially announced it and the legal case continues till today. There are lots of law cases against them from cancer patients.
Of course, it's easy to say that not to take excessive amount. But the important thing is how much is enough or excess? The body will be able to get rid some of the "chemical" daily, while the rest stay in the body. Unless you are in the medical field, you wont be able to really have "simple understanding of the concentration level of any given chemical", especially there are so many chemical used in daily products. Even anti-biotic is another chemical mixture and how many of us are consuming it frequently? What's the concentration of it then? I want to apologise to all for turning this debate from one concerning MLM to a discussion on alternative health products. It is extremely difficult to prove one way or another whether normal products are inferior to alternative products. As with the case of aspartame, it all depends on whose side is doing the arguing. While it MIGHT be true that cancer may be on the rise, it however not proven that the so-called chemical eg SLS is causing it. The Cancer Societies of various countries have issued statements concerning this. Whether the alternative solution is the best solution also remains to be seen. For most parts, whatever research conducted are at best bias and may not have official recognition on their level of accuracy.
At the end of the day, a lot depends on what we believe in. Traditional Chinese will tell you that shellfish is bad for one who has had an operation, but medical authorities will state that there is very little scientific evidence to point this direction. -
First of all, is ok to discuss anything, however, I'm not sure where are your focus?Originally posted by Chin Eng: I want to apologise to all for turning this debate from one concerning MLM to a discussion on alternative health products. It is extremely difficult to prove one way or another whether normal products are inferior to alternative products. As with the case of aspartame, it all depends on whose side is doing the arguing. While it MIGHT be true that cancer may be on the rise, it however not proven that the so-called chemical eg SLS is causing it. The Cancer Societies of various countries have issued statements concerning this. Whether the alternative solution is the best solution also remains to be seen. For most parts, whatever research conducted are at best bias and may not have official recognition on their level of accuracy. At the end of the day, a lot depends on what we believe in. Traditional Chinese will tell you that shellfish is bad for one who has had an operation, but medical authorities will state that there is very little scientific evidence to point this direction.
I strongly believed that you Do Not believed in alternative healthcare products. What I have written before, all the answers are there.
If you have stated that what you believed in, then no matter what happened, it has nothing to do with you. It's always better to understand them openly and well before you reject.
Can I ask you bluntly? Do you believed in Chinese medicine or Western Medicine? Which medical authorities have stated that? Do you think the chinese or the western know better in terms of chinese medicine?
I'm in neutral position as I believed that most of the prices and quality of alternative products have their facts, reasons, however I do not stand for the effectiveness and maintaining strict testing standards. Know what you are using and consuming, the best is to know what is in there. Look for products that have research and test reports conducted and done by official government sectors ( e.g. Spring Singapore) .