MLM Co - Empire Dreams
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Hi,
Does anyone know about a new MLM co. named Empire Dreams? Its focus is in Credit Card. If yes, can you tell me if this is a valid, real company?
Their website is:
http://www.empiredreams.com
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credit cards?
they dun even have any banking license..
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I agree with u , they dont have any banking support .. their concept is u have to balance yr L & R before u can use the $$ in the card , in that case we call it the debit card not credit card . And this company is run by Mr Keith .. open by NOP CEO Mr James Phang again .. let see how many company he want to open again using Binary system ............Originally posted by Alex Wong:credit cards?
they dun even have any banking license.. 
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what? another company related to James Phang ??
quite fishy sia... NTI running binary... Empire Dream also binary...
hmmm.. what is James Phang up to ??
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James Phang is trying to expand his biz....
To make more $$$$$$$...... for himself.... -
i hate binary ... haiz .. but it is incurring charges so is benefital to the consumers in some ways
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binary got too many flaws already... anyone can easily abuse the system to make money and run.. and this is what we called scam.
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Thanks so much for the info and advice posted. I really-really appreciate it. So I guess the watchword is "James Phang", eh?
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Sigh, James Phang already send his animals into a thread here liao, soon, and soon any thread here that goes against him might be swamped by monkeys, doggies, donkeys and birds...
Sheesh. their childish postings makes me want to puke. Donch know who is embarrassing the MLM industry more, me and ALex Wong, or the animal farms....Seems their main aim is to disrupt any discussion.
Let James Phang carry on his business , anyone who type 'James Phang' or ntiparis on yahoo and google will be coming here, so with the facts lay out on ntiparis thread, which I found damn revealing and glaring, they will then be made more aware. So the damage is done.
This is not the first time sgforum is famous for revealing 'stuff'. The newspaper and TV which reported the case of army deaths in SAF get their sources from here, while few prominent journalists also suspected to come here to get info or to discuss. Let this site be the one that brings down faults of authorities, and scamsters too.
Just disgusted while the political and military nuts forums are vibrant and lively, the Kopitiam is now a wreck. Sigh... -
"Therefore I must beg you, seriously, what you really want? What do you want me to do? Must I go down on my knees to beg you, please stop buggering me. This is SERIOUS. I am begging you now to let me off. You want me to go to you and beg you to stop bugging me.Fine. Just let me off."
laurence82 19 January 2004 · 01:50 PM
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59932&page=12
How ironic... I wonder who is embarrassing himself more in the forum... If posting in the particular thread will relate me to the advocates of that particular company or person, then guess now i'm gonna be a lackey of empire wetdreams.. where are your facts to prove it?? Thought you love providing "evidence"? Again from some credible sources proclaiming the existence of a bird in the company? or from some newspaper articles? At least I don't go around insisting you to be a hypo-potamus from an "unknown" company.
But again, laurence82 rulez in this forum. Cleverly running the monopoly and "eliminating" all who speaks up to his propaganda...
I salute you! -
Yap, seems gugu bird, monkeys and donkeys are the same people. Then let me tell you guys one thing.Originally posted by gugu bird:"Therefore I must beg you, seriously, what you really want? What do you want me to do? Must I go down on my knees to beg you, please stop buggering me. This is SERIOUS. I am begging you now to let me off. You want me to go to you and beg you to stop bugging me.Fine. Just let me off."
laurence82 19 January 2004 · 01:50 PM
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59932&page=12
How ironic... I wonder who is embarrassing himself more in the forum... If posting in the particular thread will relate me to the advocates of that particular company or person, then guess now i'm gonna be a lackey of empire wetdreams.. where are your facts to prove it?? Thought you love providing "evidence"? Again from some credible sources proclaiming the existence of a bird in the company? or from some newspaper articles? At least I don't go around insisting you to be a hypo-potamus from an "unknown" company.
But again, laurence82 rulez in this forum. Cleverly running the monopoly and "eliminating" all who speaks up to his propaganda...
I salute you!
When ntiparis was at its infancy, well with its infant minded agents, my friends and I tried to persuade those who joined not to, coz we can see nti is full of crap. We wouldnt be surprised if nti people just tell its people not to listen, coz a lot of MLM companies are telling their agents not to listen to those so called 'dreams stealers' What shocked me was firstly the drastic change in attitude and zombie minds of nti agents.
I have never see before MLMers who seems to like treat their bosses with reverence, such as those given to God. Nobody chose to give nti plans a thought, and jumped in. Like what experienced said, people in Malaysia, who joined NOP also were brainwashed that way. NOP was made hot, but in the end loses money and started to downsize. Why dont you ask many Malaysians who were victims of it?
Second thing that shocked me was the change in attitude and new hostilities towards others. My friends around those nti agents noted the changes, and pointed it out when we gathered for outings. I also have noted they became more hostile too when i see them.
Thirdly was this conspiracies theories, attacks on integrities and various rumours that are spread by nti agents. I was a victims of it too. Coz many of my friends knew me closely, they didnt succumbed to these rumours. Gosh, didnt know you guys are part time scriptwriter for Mediacock too...If you guys had been subjected to various rumours against you that are not true, you can feel the anguish.
Once gugu bird, monkeywarriors and donkeywarriors start posting craps, I knew straightaway they are nti agents without them announcing. Coz what they typed is the same as what I know of ntiagents. Crap. Dont believe me, read songboz, dennislam and other people posts about their friends. They can see the changes too and songboz post about senior agents teaching their juniors how to 'outtalk' newer prospects. You will know what I meant
Lastly, I must thank all monkey, donkey and birdie who posted here, coz you have shown how 'crap' become the staple of ntiparis brainwashing sessions everynight. You cannot get rid of me here, by justing posting nonsense. Neither can you get rid of other who spoke against ntiparis. Think you can eliminate us one by one here? Haha, think again.
Btw, gugu bird, here what i think of your postings.
Bird Droppings -
Exactly! Gugu bird! U better go back to the zoo....
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yawn... if you did not notice... perhaps let me remind you that you're the one pleading mercy and embarressing yourself in the thread. Conspiracies against your integrity?? I wonder, since I'm just merely highlighting the fact. Nevertheless, I enjoy seeing you bringing out the same old "theories" against me... relationship with ntiparis... how about something new?? Maybe a relationship with your ....?? Don't make it sound like only ntiparis agents are disgusted with your "integrity", you're not that popular lah. shessh... as what i've mentioned, you're abusing your 'reputation' in the forum... starting your own brainwashing session... the pot calling the kettle black... Look at how long your reply is.... aiye.. you're gonna dominate this thread again.. my dear hypo guru.
It's only fair enough for your friends to be pissed off with you, given your "informative" propaganda against what they believe in. you deserve it. Quit making yourself a victim of the circumstance and do some soul searching... maybe you're not worth their friendship afterall. Eliminating you?? I wonder again... No mere bird droppings can get rid of the hypo-potamus, laurence82, you'll love to swallow them with pride! Enjoy the next one then, hypo.
Q: why can't you throw stones at an ah-neh driving a car
A: Because the car may be yours
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And my dear stevie... stop wondering... laurence82 is the one for you to suck on. Don't let go! And don't worry, the law should be amending soon, it's gonna be legalised as long as it's not in public. Enjoy youselves...
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Double post oops
Hehe, by the way gugu bird, where is monkey and donkey, our forum Ah Ma still need a donkey to 'chop chop', plus I was wondering if monkeywarriors still ard, coz mcdonalds is selling mcmonkeys, donch know whether he is part of the merchandise -
Go on gugu bird,or issit donkeywarriors and monkeywarriors trio, do post more, u guys' crap add much vibrancy and new breeze to our serious discussion here, i always enjoy reading u guys crap here hahaha Come on dont be shy, unleash your crappy power here woo hoo...
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jus my 3 cents worth of comments. -
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