Amway
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depends on how compension plan
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What's Amway? Is it in Singapore? How long?
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Yes.. The lady at work always tries to get me to their meetings and ra ra.
I'm sick of it.
Sick of their stupid parties where you're expected to buy something.
I had to buy a darn dish washing liquid for A$20+ -
guys,
I am new here, just would like to share something.
I don't think Amway's marketing plan is giving low bonuses. Try study the FAA scheme & latest SIP (Sales Incentive Program).
If I am not mistaken, until 2003 Amway still No#1 in Malaysia, with the annual sales of RM422million.
I heard that Elken claims they are better than Amway, but they are better than Amway for 1 month only. They manage to make a monthly sales of RM40million, so they multiple it by 12 months, means it should be RM480million.
So they claim that they are the best.
According to DSAM, Mr Paul Yee from Amway still the president of DSAM.
cheers -
The business model of MLM cannot be sustained in the long run.
In MLM there is no limit to distibutorship whereas in real world there is this thing called supply and demand.Imagine this scenario, MLM depend on people buying their product (which is priced higher than normal), the business model of MLM is flawed in today age of technology the product can be marketed in more efficient way than the MLM Model.Why should i buy a more expensive toothpaste when Darlie can do the same job at much lower price.
The idea is not to sell the products but distributorship. It is product based pyramid scheme. The model is not sustained mathematically. For a distibutor for example, he has to get 50 people under him, and the next level is 50x50(2500) and the next level is 2500x50(125000) and the next level is 12500 x50 is 6,25 Million people that more that the population of Singapore. The Pyramid is only 5 level and it alreay exceed the population of Singapore. Get the picture!! The ones at the bottom have to work their a**** off just to make ends meet. The idea that it is not full time job is all hogwash,You need to spend lots lots of time in attending meeting, product trainings etc (all which you have to pay-$$$$ ) and books and tapes etc etc.
They are selling you false dream and hope to be free from debts, worry etc. There is a saying if it is too good to be true it probably is>??
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Originally posted by dl2734:
correct!! but unfortunately most of the MLM products are patented by the respective companies.
Why should i buy a more expensive toothpaste when Darlie can do the same job at much lower price.
most of the cheap toothpaste in this market can cause damage to our enamel.
But sugar free toothpaste from MLM companies does not damage our enamel layer.
Example LS-928 formula from Amway, latest Sylodent formula from Amway, and also ap-24 from NuSkin. All these are good formula toothpaste BUT it was patented by Amway & NuSkin.
In the market, of course there are sugar-free toothpaste, such as Oral-B. But if you compare Oral B with MLM toothpaste, I believe that you will see a huge differences.
One more thing to consider, the environmental friendly issue.
Although maybe some outside brand can do the same thing, but are they environmental friendly?
What will happen if their detergent went into the river & sea?
Most of MLM products emphasise on environmental friendly, it is safe for the consumer and also the environment.
Example bottles, usually we buy toothpaste or any hosehold cleaners are in bottle. So after we finish using those products, especially those plastic bottles, how we dispose it? Plastic bottle if we try burn to it, it will become a plastic lump that will stay on earth forever.
Bottles from some MLM companies, if you burn it, it will become white ash and dilute in water. -
Yea..Major diff between Oral-B toothpaste and MLM's toothpast..The ridiculous price. I rather use that and pay for my dentist, I ain paying some toothy similing MLM's CEO dental care!!!
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U didn't do research carefully.Originally posted by Misogynist:Yea..Major diff between Oral-B toothpaste and MLM's toothpast..The ridiculous price. I rather use that and pay for my dentist, I ain paying some toothy similing MLM's CEO dental care!!!
A 100g Oral-B toothpaste cost you RM30 BUT a 200g MLM toothpaste cost you less than RM20
why Oral-B cost RM30? you have to pay for the TV advertisement, the salary for the promoter, rental for their storage space and rental for their shop lot and etc!!. -
Hmmz...I wonder how long Oral-B has been in the market?Originally posted by jedi:U didn't do research carefully.
A 100g Oral-B toothpaste cost you RM30 BUT a 200g MLM toothpaste cost you less than RM20
why Oral-B cost RM30? you have to pay for the TV advertisement, the salary for the promoter, rental for their storage space and rental for their shop lot and etc!!.
At least Oral-B doesn't come from dubious sources.
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Can you tell me location of the manufacturing plant for Oral-B toothpaste and it's ingredients?Originally posted by Misogynist:Hmmz...I wonder how long Oral-B has been in the market?
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The Oral-B brands have helped The Gillette Company become the worldwide leader in both the manual and power toothbrush markets. The Oral-B brand is the leader in the $4.5-billion toothbrush category, marketing toothbrushes for children and adults as well as interdental products such as dental floss. The Oral-B brand includes power toothbrushes for adults and children, as well as interdental products such as irrigators and oral care centers.Originally posted by jedi:Can you tell me location of the manufacturing plant for Oral-B toothpaste and it's ingredients?
Oral-B toothbrushes, the foundation and largest category of The Gillette Company's thriving oral care business, are used by more dentists and consumers than any other brand in the U.S. and in many international markets.
The Gillette Company, headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, is the world leader in male grooming, a category including blades, razors, and shaving preparations. Gillette also holds the number-one position worldwide in selected female grooming products, such as wet shaving and hair epilation devices. In addition, the Gillette Company is the world leader in alkaline batteries.
Location:1 Gillette Park
South Boston, MA 02127-1096
Products are made in:Canada
The ingredients: it'll have different contents from each range.
Water, Sorbitol, Silica, Glycerin, Potassium Nitrate, PEG-8, Trisodium Phosphate, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Flavour, Cellulose Gum, Sodium Saccharin, CI 77891. -
Originally posted by stormax:
Can you tell me the what is "Sodium Lauryl Sulphate" and do you know it's effect?
The ingredients: it'll have different contents from each range.
Water, Sorbitol, Silica, Glycerin, Potassium Nitrate, PEG-8, Trisodium Phosphate, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Flavour, Cellulose Gum, Sodium Saccharin, CI 77891.[/b] -
Yea Yea, SLS is a caustic agent blah blah blah..Toxic etc etc..The usual horseshit. But hell cigarettes are bad, cars are dangerous the air is polluted etc etc..What can you do about this?Originally posted by jedi:Can you tell me the what is "Sodium Lauryl Sulphate" and do you know it's effect?
The key word here i believe is "excess" it's only harmful when in excess.
If you wanna be a hypochondriac, no ones stopping you.
Oh by the way the radiation from cellphones will cause cancer, are you gonna use snail mail? Oh wait, the paper treated with chlorine..How how how??? -
oh shit!!Originally posted by Misogynist:Yea Yea, SLS is a caustic agent blah blah blah..Toxic etc etc..The usual horseshit. But hell cigarettes are bad, cars are dangerous the air is polluted etc etc..What can you do about this?
The key word here i believe is "excess" it's only harmful when in excess.
If you wanna be a hypochondriac, no ones stopping you.
Oh by the way the radiation from cellphones will cause cancer, are you gonna use snail mail? Oh wait, the paper treated with chlorine..How how how???
this is the stupidest thing in the world!!
yeah, paper are treated with chlorine, so I use email.
There are some toothpaste in this world that can clean your teeth without SLS, toothpaste with SLS is NOT the only method in this world.
yeah, when "excess" then it is harmful, but there is a word call "accumulate" in this world.
Cancer won't come immediately when you access using SLS, cancer will only come after few years of non-excess using SLS. -
dun argue with jedi.... he is a salesman in toothpaste..
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he is an expert in toothpaste, with a doctorate in toothpastology! from the Royal Institute for Toothpaste Research & Studies!Originally posted by Alex Wong:dun argue with jedi.... he is a salesman in toothpaste.. -
Or is he a dentist ??Originally posted by HENG@:he is an expert in toothpaste, with a doctorate in toothpastology! from the Royal Institute for Toothpaste Research & Studies!
Anyway .. wuz asked by a fren 2 attend one their free talks & training sessions ... very exaggerated presentations ... kept saying how fantastic their pdts are and how easy it is to earn big bucks and be part of some diamond club or sth .. and to motivate us, they intro one their members who hit high targets and get to frequently travel free overseas for Amway's conferences, tempting us by saying how successful and happy she is ... doubtful as to how much of the stuff they say is true ... -
wrong again...Originally posted by Accela:If you can successful sue Gillette Company for possible cancer "features" then I will join Amway immediately.
why should I sue any company for this SLS?
You CAN continue to use toothpaste with SLS, we need someone that use SLS and caused cancer, so we know that SLS is dangerous. -
they paint the picture so nice that alot of people are being con into it. and many of them left because they finally faced the reality..and that is... they didnt make much money no matter how hard to try..Originally posted by Aulf:Or is he a dentist ??
Anyway .. wuz asked by a fren 2 attend one their free talks & training sessions ... very exaggerated presentations ... kept saying how fantastic their pdts are and how easy it is to earn big bucks and be part of some diamond club or sth .. and to motivate us, they intro one their members who hit high targets and get to frequently travel free overseas for Amway's conferences, tempting us by saying how successful and happy she is ... doubtful as to how much of the stuff they say is true ... -
yeah!!Originally posted by Alex Wong:they paint the picture so nice that alot of people are being con into it. and many of them left because they finally faced the reality..and that is... they didnt make much money no matter how hard to try..
Many manage to make it and many failed to make it.
Alex Wong is the best example for failure in MLM, that's why he always talk about negative things. So others will give up after listen Alex Wong story.
But Alex did NOT tell others one important thing!! that is Alex Wong failure doesn't mean failure for others too!! Maybe MLM is not suitable for Alex Wong BUT some others maybe can do it well!! We feel sympathy to Alex for his failure BUT that doesn't mean this MLM industry doesn't work and his failure doesn't mean anything to us!! -
nevermind, some people really don't understand english. always put words into my mouth...
jedi..since you are not successfully....that means you also a failure too? haaaa
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You can say anything as you like...
At least everyone here knows that who is the loser in MLM -
don't be so sure jedi...
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yah lor... a loser always claimed others as loser... haha.
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Yeah, and there's paper that's not treated with chlorine too.. Well, if your so bent on proving your toothpaste is the best can you show me any cases of death by cancer caused by SLS in the recent years? Oh by the way, you are pugnacious and self-absorbed with your job and ypurself, shouldn't you listen to other's perspectives before passing a generalisation?Originally posted by jedi:oh shit!!
this is the stupidest thing in the world!!
yeah, paper are treated with chlorine, so I use email.
There are some toothpaste in this world that can clean your teeth without SLS, toothpaste with SLS is NOT the only method in this world.
yeah, when "excess" then it is harmful, but there is a word call "accumulate" in this world.
Cancer won't come immediately when you access using SLS, cancer will only come after few years of non-excess using SLS.
And if you're so damn smart, why ain you like up there with the richest people in the world?