Author Topic: Jason, and I was saying ......
Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 04:00 AM
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This topic is wif regards to Pokemon's 'Chief and FireIce is our next SgForums Couple' thread.
On Saturday afternoon, u posted this:
"aw come on... i'm not gonna ban anybody!
sgforums is first a passion and second... a business.
tho i'm having some problems handling the business side of it now... but i'd fix it up soon
This little drama here has been extremely exciting although i feel rather uneasy being part of it
... it brings to mind the WWF... er... the guy in charge is himself part of the plot... i think."
Your ger then came in n mentioned sum sweet nutins 2 u which i've 4gotten wat was it.
Early Sunday morning, I replied to u sumting, more or less, like dis:
It's heartening to hear this from u.
But y r the access level of so many ppl being removed & reduced in #sgcafe?"
Dat very afternoon, i realised dat the topic had been removed.
I do admire your understanding, impartiality and magnanimity in ur reply.
So y muz dat kpo moderator remove the topic?
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colette
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posted 13 November 2000 04:29 AM
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damn it all, isn't that so unfair? it's just another petty flaming war which would have died its natural death, given time.
what are the freaking moderators when i was flamed by jerks like c++logic and showered with vulgarities? i put up with it thinking it's a free forum, apparently not.
moderators. owner/s an adminstrators, you people suck: FAVOURITISM. and hey jerks, c++ is beginning his reign of vulgarities again, go do some work and clean up his topics instead of taking out topics concerning your gf or potential gfs. yeah, i think i see the freaking power now.
this is a free forum? why yes, only in so far as you're potential enough.
shit,
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colette
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posted 13 November 2000 04:32 AM
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damn it all, isn't that so unfair? it's just another petty flaming war which would have died its natural death, given time.
where are the freaking moderators when i was flamed by jerks like c++logic and showered with vulgarities? i put up with it thinking it's a free forum, apparently not.
moderators. owner/s an adminstrators, you people suck: FAVOURITISM. and hey jerks, c++ is beginning his reign of vulgarities again, go do some work and clean up his topics instead of taking out topics concerning your gf or potential gfs. yeah, i think i see the freaking power now.
this is a free forum? why yes, only in so far as you're potential enough.
shit,
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tet
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posted 13 November 2000 04:49 AM
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Aiyah... happens all the time.
Wanna dig up old stories... I got plenty to say man... say 3 days 3 nights also cannot finish I tell u.
But what's the use? They have the power and authority... they have the last say.
Nothing is fair, that I understand too well.
Wait a min... are we back to the same old smelly topic abt "free forum" and "freedom of speech" again? Reminds me of this chinese saying:-
Bind feet cloth long and smelly
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colette
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posted 13 November 2000 04:56 AM
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oh, it's not that i didn't have enough sleep and thus shooting my mouth off, in fact i slept since 5.15 pm on Sunday and just woke up, so more than refreshed liao.
there were wars and wars and wars, what makes this so special?
oh yeah, one Hokkien word comes to mind: chee hong.
I'M FUCKING PISSED! LET ME SEE YOU REMOVE THIS AND MY RIGHTS TO POST IN THIS SO-CALLED FORUMS.
ASSHOLES.
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 05:04 AM
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I tink nobirdie's post should be deleted. Juz to be fair.
N colette, mind u. It wasn't deleted fer nuthin. It was onli deleted after i brought sumting up. N i tink it's veri despicable of whoever dat person is.
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colette
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posted 13 November 2000 05:07 AM
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i'm not in this because of politics or whatever, i just don't like to see favouritism, treat one and all the same please. please kindly don't show partiality, it's bound to raise temperatures. not to mention it'll ruin your professionalism.
don't ever mix business with pleasure, it bodes ill for the business.
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colette
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posted 13 November 2000 05:10 AM
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just realized that i missed out one word in my earlier post.
at 4.56 am, i posted:
LET ME SEE YOU REMOVE THIS AND MY RIGHTS TO POST IN THIS SO-CALLED FORUMS.
it should read:
LET ME SEE YOU REMOVE THIS AND MY RIGHTS TO POST IN THIS SO-CALLED FREE-SPEECH FORUMS.
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NaiveGirl
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posted 13 November 2000 05:32 AM
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*sigh*
kinda disappointed at this situation.
there are many many incidents that need the moderators' attention, but they are no where to be found. And why all of a sudden come out and delete a thread just because you are involved?
lemme name some incidents...
Humblepie...Was a forumite repuation not as risk here? Wasn't it even bigger than the Chief and FireIce thread? A bit selfish don't you think?! You enjoyed the people posting, you enjoy the show, you enjoy the business also, that's why you didn't want to remove that topic.
Lexelle's pictures being posted up...That was a big issue. Talk about privacy being invaded. Where were the moderators then?! And when someone help to remove it... he was reprimanded for messing with the fourm.
Worm and Shoik's thread...a personal dispute. The thread was closed cuz they were a close friend of the moderators. Can I saw favoritism?!
C++logic...As colette already mentioned. The was sprouting vulgarities at forumites, sure some of his thread was removed, but why can't he be ban?! And yet, when people have personal dipute with the moderators they are banned, and even when the dispute has nothing to do with the forum?!
Insulting someone's mother is rude and immoral (C++logic thread abt gangbang with durid's mom is removed), so shouldn't Druid's gangbang thread be removed also?! Then I wonder why the blasphemy thread is not removed also?! Cuz it got nothing to do with the moderators' personal affairs?!
Racist threads...There was a time that some troublemakers were making insults about Malaysians. Should that be removed also? Or did the moderators have too much fun reading the racist jokes?!
I would want you all to know that I am not targetting at anyone, but the situation itself....I find it unjust that threads are removed or closed as when and wished. What is the purpose of freeforum? Should we all watch what we say and be afraid to post our views?!
And I do apologize for any names (involved or uninvolved) mentioned in my post.
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posted 13 November 2000 05:33 AM
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wouldn't everything die down in its own time? why bring attention to its absence?
damn, why bring attention to myself?
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tet
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posted 13 November 2000 05:44 AM
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Naive,
So long and smelly... u actually have the time to list all of them out. *salute to u*
Well, it brings back to the very same thing callan been stressing about. You will not feel the prick unless someone pricks you back.
Let's hope the removal of chief and FI's thread (having felt the prick), the moderators will be more alert in future topics.
Then again, it is hard on them how to decide which one to remove... especially when it involves the viewership hitcount of a topic. When a topic has high hits, it only gives advantages to the forum. Removing any thread can be quite a substantial loss.
Frankly, I dun hope at all.
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 05:49 AM
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Originally quoted by Naivegirl:
Insulting someone's mother is rude and immoral (C++logic thread abt gangbang with durid's mom is removed), so shouldn't Druid's gangbang thread be removed also?! Then I wonder why the blasphemy thread is not removed also?! Cuz it got nothing to do with the moderators' personal affairs?!
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Make dat their personal sexual preferences.
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 05:51 AM
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undecided, if attention's wat they want, we shall give it to them.
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pet_link
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posted 13 November 2000 05:56 AM
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make peace!
ok let me say something fair
if this is a so-called free forum, we should feel free to post anything but when it comes to things like pesonal insults like wat c++ n some others are doin, y not we have the silent approach n ignore all of their postins n topics
i am glad this issue is raise n if the trend continues i duno wat will it be like yrs later or mths later
possible outcome would be many ppl not comin into here anymore
haven u all ppl notice that there are lesser n lesser ppl postin here other than so regular ppl??
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 06:17 AM
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We've noticed dat long ago.
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Dear Danial
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posted 13 November 2000 06:24 AM
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In commercial arena, professionalism reins, but when personal involving stretch to business, professionlism ruins ...
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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:
This topic is wif regards to Pokemon's 'Chief and FireIce is our next SgForums Couple' thread.
On Saturday afternoon, u posted this:
"aw come on... i'm not gonna ban anybody!
sgforums is first a passion and second... a business.
tho i'm having some problems handling the business side of it now... but i'd fix it up soon
This little drama here has been extremely exciting although i feel rather uneasy being part of it
... it brings to mind the WWF... er... the guy in charge is himself part of the plot... i think."
Your ger then came in n mentioned sum sweet nutins 2 u which i've 4gotten wat was it.
Early Sunday morning, I replied to u sumting, more or less, like dis:
It's heartening to hear this from u.
But y r the access level of so many ppl being removed & reduced in #sgcafe?"
Dat very afternoon, i realised dat the topic had been removed.
I do admire your understanding, impartiality and magnanimity in ur reply.
So y muz dat kpo moderator remove the topic?
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 06:30 AM
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Ya loh! 4get abt globalisation man!
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Revelations
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posted 13 November 2000 08:51 AM
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Well, honestly speaking, I do feel a little miscarriage of justice for the previous victims as well, when everyone was screaming for the intervention of a moderator but they went conveniently missing. Oh well, the pain will never be felt until it actually befalls on oneself. And with talks of actually banning people, I am appalled. Anyway, I am just blabbering my mouth away. Back to work.
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 09:01 AM
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Good Morning, Rev.
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worm
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posted 13 November 2000 09:14 AM
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Worm and Shoik's thread...a personal dispute. The thread was closed cuz they were a close friend of the moderators. Can I saw favoritism?!
Naive..I sincerely din noe that my thread was taken away...THou i wondered where it was...*laffZ*
Aniway..i'm NOT a close friends of the moderators..I dun even noe who they are!THe onli pple i noe are the sex god and sentinel..*laffZ*..And i dun think they are moderators.
I think the thread was taken away because of teh humiliation involved.I was homing in onto Shiok and maybe the moderators dun like it or something.
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posted 13 November 2000 09:20 AM
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*yawnz*
As taken from Features
Re: Authority and Anarchy
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posted 08 July 2000 01:52 PM
Again, another topic which set my mind a blazing.
As we are all aware of, flaming is becoming a daily, even hourly occurrence in this forum. I am as guilty as the next party in perpetuating this habit, Lord knows how much I can't resist "shooting" at lamers and idiots. However, some forumites (quazimodo and Angeldark comes to mind) have urged for calm and sanity to take hold. Aspiring Nobels winner they might be but alas, as realism (my life dictating philosophy) shows us, their are words are taken in vain and perhaps sniggered at. Who can remember the peace maker when the warlords and the merchants of death are the ones to hogged the limelight. Nobody can remember Gamal Abdel-Nasser when we have Saddam Hussein.
The Net is supposed to be the ultimate playground for the anarchist of the world, where freedom of speech and action literally meant just that. It was a brilliant place to be and new age liberals were quivering with delight at such concept. That is, until naked kids and 1001 ways to make bombs appeared alongside disney.com. Ahhh, that is when we see the influx of more and more undesirable elements in the net. Of course, depending on who your are, the pedophiles and guerillas will swore that you are encroaching on their god-damm given rights to privacy and uncensored information on the cyber highway. Other more self righteous people, or cynical government waiting for excuses to stamp their foot and red tape all over the place, will ask for more control and regulation.
I believed certain balances might be made and growing up in a patriarchal and liberty-shackled society, i tends to view with favour regulations and rules. In a perfect world will we see the rise of full liberty and the abandoning of control ala Plato's Utopia (am i correct here?? my pol.sci. is slipping away from me) If we can be expected to behave with the proper virtues, why should we need watchmen for??? The Net was the first experiment at judging the mental capability of the humans and whether the age old question of man are inherently good/evil can be resolved. It can't and controls are needed to curb the baser instincts of mankkind.
This brings me back to the question of the emergence of lamers and idiots in this forum. We have seen first hand their behaviour and conduct. Messer Youwen is fond of Caps Lock and he tends to shove down his views on people's throat. Well, nothing wrong with that, with all the 2 cents views thrown into this forum i would have been a millionaires few times over, freedom of speech rules. Hugo was another example of the former case. However, we began to see him denigrate into a irritant , with his now infamous and immortal words, GO AND DIE. Again, nothing wrong with that. After all, even those MPs have to put up with the antics of good old Jeya(he with the funny hair and beard) in parliament. Ditto for I M TWAT, i guess the name is self explanatory and can we ever bear to be cruel to the intellectually inferior??? However, ILOVELEX and phoenix9 smells of mischief. Their purpose in here is to create confusion and strike at their enemies with a cloak of invisibility. So how do we guard against such people...or for that matter, should we even be acting in the first place???
Let me show you something guys, thanks to Daba for showing it to me.(daba is one of the moderators in a games forum i frequently. And for your information, he hails from Philipines, where democracy and freedom of speech are sacred values)
Rules you MUST follow:
1) No flames, direct or indirect.
2) No cloning. EX: A flames B. B retaliates. A gets scared, signs out and re-signs in as C. Now, as C, he "talks" with A and tells him to stop flaming, and talks to B as well to stop retaliating. People like that are SICK, and I don't want SICK people in my board.
3) I HATE HACKERS. The moment you attempt one I'll find out and you'll be sorry.
4) If you wanna make foreign conversations, tell the board that you will so it won't be impolite.
5) NO INVALID AND FRAUDULENT INFO IN YOUR PROFILES. You must post your e-mail address in every post you make (it's simple, a cookie will write it down for you so you won't have a hard time just make sure it's VALID). I'll be checking the e-mail addresses you guys have now and then (obviously by sending you e-mail msgs) and if they're FAKE or INVALID you'll be banned for being a fraud. If any of these rules are violated for ANY REASON, you'll be BANNED.
If you are a flamer and/or a hacker, I have a new section in my site, the "Hall of Flame", where I'll be posting your name and e-mail or IP address for everyone to see, and say that you're a flamer. The Internet Police (www.cybercrime.gov) will be contacted and they will be given your info and they'll contact your Internet Provider and other Internet Providers and have your account deactivated, PERMANENTLY. IF the case of hacking and flaming is severe, the law will take care of you from there. There's no gravity or level of offense here. Do it and you'll have it. It's easy to trace you, and I don't want to do work like that. Please stay out of trouble at least for your own sake. Oh yeah one more thing, I'm not saying this to SCARE YOU OFF or anything ok? I just want to have the most disciplined SRW English Board on the net. And since I have a reputation to maintain as moderator, I get all the faults if the board gets a bad name. I don't want that to happen. Having read the rules, do oyu comply or not?
Please reply ASAP so I can process your application (whether to accept it or reject it).
Sincerely Yours, Daba Myrod
Not a bad concept right??? You tell me.
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posted 16 July 2000 02:27 AM
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a dedicated moderator indeed...
sounds more like scare tactics as a deterrent... otherwise its a lot of work with very little returns.
Mr Hata-san
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posted 16 July 2000 02:37 AM
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i am not too sure Jason. His treads seems very effective and he does run a tight ship. Perhaps you have seen for yourself all the fuss and flaming that is going on in here, but what the heck. Personally, i rather enjoyed all these flamings...just can't bear to see innocent parties like phoenix09 getting her name tarnish with by cowards.
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posted 07 August 2000 11:21 AM
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It appears that it is a lot of hard work. But well, somebody have to do it to keep this place tidy.
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Hello Kitty
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posted 13 November 2000 09:28 AM
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WAT THE FARK!!! EBEN POKEMON'S APOLOGY THREAD WAS DELETED!!!
IF ANYONE HAD FELT SHAMEFUL HAVING THE THREADS UP, DUN U FEEL EBEN MORE DISGRACEFUL DELETING IT!!!
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Revelations
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posted 13 November 2000 09:30 AM
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Good morning Kitty.
Macbeth, I remember reading those articles too. Btw, your signature a little, hehehehe......
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posted 13 November 2000 09:34 AM
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The more I think of it the more pent up I am getting. I have just realized that all threads that portrayed a bad image of FireIce was removed...
What can I say? The more I think about it the I start to wonder if this thread will also be remove as well...Why bother to post to much if it will be removed later?
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posted 13 November 2000 09:40 AM
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I have a tough paper today and I wonder to myself seriously why I should even bother to reply to this thread. This is not an old issue nor will it be resolved in here there after. What it will result in, however, is the hypocrisy of the moderators in running this forum.
What is the ideology of this forum? To quote, it is a free place and the 1st Amendment rules the day. This is a concept drilled into the participants of this forum since day 1. And people, mostly the lamers, took this to heart. What we have is, of course, unadulterated chaos and libel of the first degree. Good business as mentioned by tet? Of course! Hell, they are even the features section where most “serious” posts are diverted too, in hoping to garner some respectability to this place.
Frankly, my dearest kitty, the point is whatÂ’s the point? (Pun unintended) Human emotions will always emerged from the cold abyss of logic and like what one of the founding fathers (James Madison) mentioned, if men are angels, no government are needed. And yes, we witness the full scale of human emotions ruling over common sense. To put it crudely, if it happens to others, itÂ’s a bloody hoot but not when it happens to my loved ones! By the way, if someone questions my authority and devious demeanours in my own house (read: forums and affiliated sites), thou shall not exist!
This is not liberty we are seeing here. Nor is this hard cold authoritarian. This is the whimper of monarchy, where the king see fits to say one thing and to do another. Ah yes, the vulgarities of human emotions. Brings to mind a saying from Shakespeare, he how lived through the most splendid period of all monarchies…”do we not laugh when we are tickled? And do we not cry when we are pricked
It is true that liberty is precious - so precious it must be carefully rationed.
V. I. Lenin
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