What people understand about Network Marketing
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Technology is so advanced nowadays....just advertise on the internet la!
Wa lao...if �娘 have to teach you some more you better be prepared to pay me lecturing fees
Icic, so its also a form of marketing right?
Actually, as long as the products are good, and there is nothing to lose for the customer, whether through Network Marketing or not should be fine since it's also word-of-mouth form of marketing and recommendation.
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Originally posted by simpleboi:
Icic, so its also a form of marketing right?
Actually, as long as the products are good, and there is nothing to lose for the customer, whether through Network Marketing or not should be fine since it's also word-of-mouth form of marketing and recommendation.
Are you comparing MLM hard selling to word of mouth????
Sorry hor...but there is one BIG difference
People who geniunely want to tell you about a new product don't benefit AT ALL, whether you buy the product or not.
BUT, MLM salesmen get a cut from all the products they SELL....it's is not WORD OF MOUTH AT ALL
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Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
careful... wait kenna diabetics...
Choi! me very healthy
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Are you comparing MLM hard selling to word of mouth????
Sorry hor...but there is one BIG difference
People who geniunely want to tell you about a new product don't benefit AT ALL, whether you buy the product or not.
BUT, MLM salesmen get a cut from all the products they SELL....it's is not WORD OF MOUTH AT ALL
I dun like or endorse any form of hard selling.What I am trying to say is something like referral.. the char kuay teow is nice.. and when u introduce ur friend to the stall, the uncle will give u a small cut of the plate that your friend buy and so on. Of course, the criteria has to be that the stall is nice.. otherwise ur fren will know u r cheating him.
Right now we recommend any stall or show we share we will not get anything.. isn't it more of like using all of us to increase his/her own profit without giving out anything?
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Originally posted by simpleboi:
I dun like or endorse any form of hard selling.What I am trying to say is something like referral.. the char kuay teow is nice.. and when u introduce ur friend to the stall, the uncle will give u a small cut of the plate that your friend buy and so on. Of course, the criteria has to be that the stall is nice.. otherwise ur fren will know u r cheating him.
Right now we recommend any stall or show we share we will not get anything.. isn't it more of like using all of us to increase his/her own profit without giving out anything?
I dunno what you're trying to say...
Anywayz...you have your own opinion and I have mine...and they obviously differ...so let's leave it at that
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I can totally understand why these people think of Network marketing so negatively, Because this was what I thought about Network Marketing Before I started one.
But I was completely wrong, all these talking about product selling and asking people to buy products are not true. They didn't even convince me to join them, I saw my possibility in the business and I went in straight away.
have you seen this new training site for home business owners yet? The videos are really good.
http://briseis.magneticsponsoringonline.com
have you seen this new training site for home business owners on how to sponsor more reps? It gives away a free one hour video interview on how to personally sponsor as many as 25 new reps per month.
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Originally posted by briseis:
I can totally understand why these people think of Network marketing so negatively, Because this was what I thought about Network Marketing Before I started one.
But I was completely wrong, all these talking about product selling and asking people to buy products are not true. They didn't even convince me to join them, I saw my possibility in the business and I went in straight away.
have you seen this new training site for home business owners yet? The videos are really good.
http://briseis.magneticsponsoringonline.com
have you seen this new training site for home business owners on how to sponsor more reps? It gives away a free one hour video interview on how to personally sponsor as many as 25 new reps per month.
haha..if you really know your stuff..than write it out here..no point in hiding..using internet marketing of lead-capture page to get contacts of un-suspecting prospects/clients..
share your expertise in this forum if you have it, i'm sure a lot of users will be happy and will benefit from it.
recruitment..old mlm tactic..only for greedy distributors..earn money and disappear approach..
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if you were to set up a new Chicken Rice stall, the 1st group of people u invite will be ur friends and relatives. Your friends will definitely pay you for the chicken rice they eat, and will you be rejecting them bcos you are liching of their money?? and when they intro their friends to ur stall, will u say No again, bcos my friend's friend hard earn money and you must give them for free... (do think about it thoroughly)
secondly, word-of-mouth, is by sharing with the person how good does a particular thing (e.g food, product) and how can it benefit them. yes, mlm agents get their cut from the sales... then where do Singtel get their cut from??? Government liching of our taxes?? and if the product or service is beneficial, I don't see why its like hard selling to the person or cheating the person of their money. pls have in mind, i believe mlm agents want to share the products with their heart because it will benefit their customers and they do not have the mindset that:"YES! some one bought my product..YES! money !!" ..yes its part of their salary..if its not call multi-lvl-marketing, then isit call a scam?? no right??
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Originally posted by gtyp:
if you were to set up a new Chicken Rice stall, the 1st group of people u invite will be ur friends and relatives. Your friends will definitely pay you for the chicken rice they eat, and will you be rejecting them bcos you are liching of their money?? and when they intro their friends to ur stall, will u say No again, bcos my friend's friend hard earn money and you must give them for free... (do think about it thoroughly)
secondly, word-of-mouth, is by sharing with the person how good does a particular thing (e.g food, product) and how can it benefit them. yes, mlm agents get their cut from the sales... then where do Singtel get their cut from??? Government liching of our taxes?? and if the product or service is beneficial, I don't see why its like hard selling to the person or cheating the person of their money. pls have in mind, i believe mlm agents want to share the products with their heart because it will benefit their customers and they do not have the mindset that:"YES! some one bought my product..YES! money !!" ..yes its part of their salary..if its not call multi-lvl-marketing, then isit call a scam?? no right??
why suddenly talk about chicken rice stall..where's the link?
if you're writing in response to my previous comment on your lead-capture page..you have got to learn more..
read up more on getting positive remarks first before you think you know business..it's all about marketing/advertising and operational expenses..
from your reply..it's just typical/standard FAQs reply format taught in mlm companies..and it is not flexible at all..another poor soul being brainwashed..
speak and write to be understood and not to mislead others..(which the website has already clearly mislead people)
FYI: Misleading people are the taboos of business across the globe and that's what keeps the compliants pouring into the all businesses - refer to the previous AIG Bailout and Lehamn Brothers incident..thus Financial + Insurance agents are trained not to misrepresent the business..
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Network marketing has existed among us without us realising such as online promotions that requires friends referral.
They usually put phrases like 'the more friends you refer, the higher the chance of winning'. Upon thinking that you are able to increase your chance of winning, you typed in your friends' email.
That's also network marketing in a way as we refer to our friends that the particular product or company is good, we stand to gain something. MLM works by monetary rewards instead of empty promises of 'higher chances of winning'. By having monetary rewards given to you, you will then help them advertise thru word-of-mouth.
Doing this also reduce the cost of advertisement of common media such as newspaper, radio or tv. It also provides jobs to many and many to attain their goals in life.
Not all network marketing companies are bad. Their products can be far better than the products you find outside. It's just that many network marketing companies uses this model to gain quick profits hence destroying all network marketing companies' reputation down due to all of these blacksheep companies.
Should you be interested or don't mind listening to good network marketing companies that doesn't require you to invest or do sales, PM me or SMS my no 98545414. My company does purely referral to promote their products. It requires your constant commitment hence I will not force you to join. NO SALES NO INVESTMENT.
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Originally posted by chekopek:
Should you be interested or don't mind listening to good network marketing companies that doesn't require you to invest or do sales, PM me or SMS my no 98545414. My company does purely referral to promote their products. It requires your constant commitment hence I will not force you to join. NO SALES NO INVESTMENT.
U are an agent from LFI accordling to the source below.
http://singapore.gumtree.sg/c-Stuff-for-Sale-general-B-H-Capsules-W0QQAdIdZ206004393However, please refer to the image below
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2466/photo1edited.jpg
There are 2 lessons for new guys in the company, mainly to intro you into the concept of mlm and how it works. There is also a lesson on recruiting people aka your friends into it. Surprisingly it is very detail to the extend of what to say to you friend and even how a "gd" phone call should be.
Now comes the difficult part, making the phone call itself. But fear not, you won be alone
Every so often dere will be a phone call making sesson whr everyone be it new or experienced distributor will gather together anywhr frm coffee shop to car park and everyone will dish out their phone and start making phone calls. Most ppl are able to get 2-4 appointments per sesson, wow.
Now this is when things get fishy. WHERE IS THE PRODUCTS WHICH DIFFERENTIATE A LEGAL MLM FRM AN ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCAM!!!
Honestly it's really hard to obtain the product, it's always out of stock. Eventually i realized that nobody is interested in selling the products, it's always the last priority, the least time spent. Most ppl only has one thing on their mind; recruitment.Extracted from Source :
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2194835&highlight=venture+era
LOLX
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Originally posted by chekopek:
Network marketing has existed among us without us realising such as online promotions that requires friends referral.
They usually put phrases like 'the more friends you refer, the higher the chance of winning'. Upon thinking that you are able to increase your chance of winning, you typed in your friends' email.
That's also network marketing in a way as we refer to our friends that the particular product or company is good, we stand to gain something. MLM works by monetary rewards instead of empty promises of 'higher chances of winning'. By having monetary rewards given to you, you will then help them advertise thru word-of-mouth.
Doing this also reduce the cost of advertisement of common media such as newspaper, radio or tv. It also provides jobs to many and many to attain their goals in life.
Not all network marketing companies are bad. Their products can be far better than the products you find outside. It's just that many network marketing companies uses this model to gain quick profits hence destroying all network marketing companies' reputation down due to all of these blacksheep companies.
Should you be interested or don't mind listening to good network marketing companies that doesn't require you to invest or do sales, PM me or SMS my no 98545414. My company does purely referral to promote their products. It requires your constant commitment hence I will not force you to join. NO SALES NO INVESTMENT.
Another gimmick/misleading thread reply..Your reply make it sounds more like a scam..the idea it gives me..is like do nothing and get paid..
When you mention No Sales and talk about referrral to promote products, referral cum promote products still falls under SALES.
No Investment; What kind of investment are you referring to? Time, Money Commitment? With the "No Investment" it gives a very wrong impression that its easy.
There's a saying, good things don't come easy, you have to work for it.
The only time you have things easy for you is the time when you get scam/cheated by others..which is what you're post is suggesting (from my personal view point only)
So if you're saying its a no investment plus no sales..than how do businesses even make money?
Another thing is that you mention about blacksheep companies..who ruin reputation..ask your friends or read it again yourself..you are pushing the blame to others by slapping yourself?
There's no blacksheep companies..
the blacksheeps are the people who are not representives of the company
they can join the company as agent just to make the commission and should in no way ruin the reputation of the company but sad to say..majority as high as 99.98% of the agents does it..
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Hey Alessandro, I heard they are doing Diamonds too and opened a diamon shop at Marina Square (which my friend took me to that day). But, I don't get you, if it's a Scam why would the government allow them to open a retail shop? and even support them. Just asking anyway. I'm giving opinion as 3rd party, not siding anyone.
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I hate mlm
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Originally posted by littlemissbonkers:
Technology is so advanced nowadays....just advertise on the internet la!Wa lao...if �娘 have to teach you some more you better be prepared to pay me lecturing fees
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Originally posted by gtyp:
Hey Alessandro, I heard they are doing Diamonds too and opened a diamon shop at Marina Square (which my friend took me to that day). But, I don't get you, if it's a Scam why would the government allow them to open a retail shop? and even support them. Just asking anyway. I'm giving opinion as 3rd party, not siding anyone.
Its not a scam la。。dun put scam and business together。I got my own design business outside。mlm i also do b4。depends on the products really。black sheep is not � to lousy products
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Some of the people in this thread aren't showing the simplest level of maturity at all.
"littlemissbonkers said , BUT, MLM salesmen get a cut from all the products they SELL....it's is not WORD OF MOUTH AT ALL."
Yes, its very true but not only applies to MLM salesmen. Retail shops salesmen/promoter gets commission also. Isn't that getting a cut from all the products they sell? Who in the hell came out to work for free? You? Think before you speak.
And moreover MLM salesmen aren't getting paid for finding customers until they actually close a sales. Retail shop promoters/salesmen are getting paid BASIC salary even if theres no sales done.
gtyp said ,Hey Alessandro, I heard they are doing Diamonds too and opened a diamon shop at Marina Square (which my friend took me to that day). But, I don't get you, if it's a Scam why would the government allow them to open a retail shop? and even support them. Just asking anyway. I'm giving opinion as 3rd party, not siding anyone.
Sorry I've got to say this, I don't think opening a retail shop in shopping centre needs approval from government until they actually want to register their business as Private Limited etc etc.
Lastly , Advertisement of Direct Sales Products.
MLM companies products/direct sales products are advertised by their salesperson. They're working for free until they actually close a sales. Salesperson of MLM companies are their main source of ADVERTISEMENTS. Advantage is, its free. Disadvantage, lower popularity due to the fact they are not very well known.
Retail companies products/Retail shop products are advertised by newspaper/internet/tv ads etc. All these sources and medium cost money and are not cheap. Advantage, more people knowing product. Higher popularity. Disadvantage is, what if there is no or low sales? Do you think mediums like Television Ads/Newspaper let you advertise for FREE?
Question to you is, which is a cheaper source of advertisement?
Don't assume products that we see in shopping malls, NTUC, shelves are the best.What makes you think so? Is it because everyone is buying it or it is very easily accessible? What makes up a good product? Just because its on the shelves in retail shops, its a good one? How sure are you?
Think.
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Advertisements doesn't work anymore. When was the last time you saw an advertisement and ran down straight to buy the product?
If the product is good, I don't see why word-of-mouth won't work in MLM.
Sure, MLM'ers earns commissions, but so does salespeople from many companies. MLM'ers aren't paid a fixed salary, so if they don't earn commission, what's the point of doing the business in the first place?
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can try church network marketing or CNM....
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human are really strange..so far i nv heard of people comparing how lucky or good they are but keep listen to people compare how "suay" they are..rmb that case of mac curry sauce got worm or wateva that was?super fast appear on news,stomp and newspaper and forums.end up ppl for sometime dun dare ask for mac curry sauce.but rarely hear people compliment on the good taste of mac curry sauce.strange right?
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
Another gimmick/misleading thread reply..Your reply make it sounds more like a scam..the idea it gives me..is like do nothing and get paid..
When you mention No Sales and talk about referrral to promote products, referral cum promote products still falls under SALES.
No Investment; What kind of investment are you referring to? Time, Money Commitment? With the "No Investment" it gives a very wrong impression that its easy.
There's a saying, good things don't come easy, you have to work for it.
The only time you have things easy for you is the time when you get scam/cheated by others..which is what you're post is suggesting (from my personal view point only)
So if you're saying its a no investment plus no sales..than how do businesses even make money?
Another thing is that you mention about blacksheep companies..who ruin reputation..ask your friends or read it again yourself..you are pushing the blame to others by slapping yourself?
There's no blacksheep companies..
the blacksheeps are the people who are not representives of the company
they can join the company as agent just to make the commission and should in no way ruin the reputation of the company but sad to say..majority as high as 99.98% of the agents does it..
Spot on! The reason why the industry is getting a bad rep is due to the distributors and the way the business is being conducted. Period.
Here's the idea: When you offer someone something (product or services) in exchange for money, that's sales.
The thing that is causing most networkers to be stuck in the network marketing "rat-race" is that many are trying to be a salesperson.
Digest this: Professionals market, your system does all the selling for you.
Take a look at all the successful franchises(McDonald, Starbucks), the system does the selling. While you(the marketer/ entrepreneur), focus on fulfilling the unmet NEED of the prospects.
The misconception or mistake of many in the network marketing industry is that TOO MUCH attention is paid to the products and services and very little attention is focus on the person actually BUYING!
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Originally posted by Heider Hassan:
Spot on! The reason why the industry is getting a bad rep is due to the distributors and the way the business is being conducted. Period.
Here's the idea: When you offer someone something (product or services) in exchange for money, that's sales.
The thing that is causing most networkers to be stuck in the network marketing "rat-race" is that many are trying to be a salesperson.
Digest this: Professionals market, your system does all the selling for you.
Take a look at all the successful franchises(McDonald, Starbucks), the system does the selling. While you(the marketer/ entrepreneur), focus on fulfilling the unmet NEED of the prospects.
The misconception or mistake of many in the network marketing industry is that TOO MUCH attention is paid to the products and services and very little attention is focus on the person actually BUYING!
I appreciate you agreeing with my post as a confirmation of my quality post reply but based on your reply, you still need to learn the basics of MLM.
focus on the foundation..don't attempt to ride on my post reply to off-load your thoughts/learning from your upline/company.. to add-on my post..
as your thread reply are mis-leading too..focusing on the advanced strategies when you still lack the foundation/basic understanding of the industry as a whole
i don't want anybody else to think that they can quote my posts in future thinking that i will not rebutt them just because they agree with my replies..if i sense some hidden agenda/motive brewing in progress..i'll just point it out..
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
I appreciate you agreeing with my post as a confirmation of my quality post reply but based on your reply, you still need to learn the basics of MLM.
focus on the foundation..don't attempt to ride on my post reply to off-load your thoughts/learning from your upline/company.. to add-on my post..
as your thread reply are mis-leading too..focusing on the advanced strategies when you still lack the foundation/basic understanding of the industry as a whole
i don't want anybody else to think that they can quote my posts in future thinking that i will not rebutt them just because they agree with my replies..if i sense some hidden agenda/motive brewing in progress..i'll just point it out..
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. Ok, 1st of all I would say that I'm not perfect in providing information with regards to this industry, we all learn from each other. But what I would hope is that this industry will one day become an industry that gets the good name that it deserves.
However, if I lack any basic understanding of the industry, do point it out and I can learn from you as well.
In my opinion, yes for one to enter the network marketing scene, one MUST understand the fundamentals of MLM. But like I said, that's not the true concern as the fact that the industry is getting a bad reputation is due to how distributors go about operating their business. So that extends to the networkers themselves and the general public alike.
I believe Sgforums can serve the entire industry of Network Marketing, but we have to get beyond all this to accomplish that, and we have to consider all the people who have benefited and struggled in this industry. This industry can serve them too, but not like this.
I'll get off the soap box and hope this can be transmuted into a positive outcome.
I don't think anyone really did anything wrong. I think this is what happens sometimes when we 'practice' business. We learn, we grow.
Heider
