Venture Era
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Its so call H2O cleansing prp & Cal Ion, anione heard of it ?
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duno leh..but heard quite good..
never try b4..no comments. -
looks like this kinda conmen co. out to cheat ppl. anione ganna ?
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maybe you would like to provide facts?
no point starting another pointless flaming war, seen enough in other tread...
thats a very cheap way to anyhow tarnish a company name..
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Alex, I'm not not out to tarnish anione. It's just that if u r trick into doing something & not get paid, & full of craps reason given, then
u will realise it. I'm here to find out more or am I the only one who get con ?
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nobody get conned here.
it will be best that you clarify with the company management rather than anyhow accuse them without any fact and logic supported.
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Guys, hold your horses......and apple pies too
For appie, you need to clarify your statements. Cos people either think these companies are in conspiracy because of your statement, or you are just marginalising the industry as whole.
If you are marginalising the industry, I am afraid I wont be standing on your side cos......
While MLM is a good industry, for every one good company, there is ten lousy ones, and hundred scams. I have been down to few companies, and one problem with this industry, like many others, is that people dont get the formula right. Many people ( like 1000 companies in KL ) tried to build one MLM company but unsuccessful., ending up that chances when you enter one company, the company, seemingly promising, may fall.I will emphathise with you.
But,if you work in a good one, my questions are, have you follow the company system closely? Have you follow what your upline advise you to do? Even after all these, have you been diligently doing field work, reading up, contacting people. I am not surprised,that some people proclaim they have been working their ass off but got little. But when the problems are examined, it was found they might been doing some steps wrong without realising it.
Worse off, many just gave up and left, proclaiming (unjustifiably) that the company doesnt work, or the industry is a hoax. I am used to it,coz we are humans, and self denial, thy name is human beanz.
Haha, guys, just kiss and make up.Friends (even on net) on one hand is worth more than many enemies in the bush.
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yup!
say cheese~!!
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Hi there people...
K basically MLM is based on network marketing.I understand there are hoaxes and scams.But I also understand there are true gems among the scams.
A close friend of mine had just joined VE selling Bio-Magnetic products. Anyone had worked in VentureEra be4?If so,how is it?
Do you think is a scam or a gem?
In terms of scam,there are many ways.One is the product-i have seen reports from international websites reporting about the law going against the Pros who invented these magnetic devices.To show you, search "Magnetic Therapy" on Google.com.sg and try to sca through some of the sites searched on 1st page.Another is mentioned earlier on the company itself.
So these are the two topics which I would like to bring here and disuss. C'mon!this is Kopitiam rite? Lets settle down and discuss about this.
Gif ur opinions and this will help us understand a lot on MLM and Magnetic Therapy...
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Originally posted by Appie:Alex, I'm not not out to tarnish anione. It's just that if u r trick into doing something & not get paid, & full of craps reason given, then
u will realise it. I'm here to find out more or am I the only one who get con ? 
you mean your rightful payment has been delayed? how long? if their explanation doesn't satisfy you, call the cops to drink coffee with your boss in his office, during office hours. -
cops will not handle this type of cases...you should try the (CPIB) instead...they have tea and milo other than coffee...can intro your boss to try it...Originally posted by boy in blues: you mean your rightful payment has been delayed? how long? if their explanation doesn't satisfy you, call the cops to drink coffee with your boss in his office, during office hours.
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that will definitely be the best way to settle those unpleasent rumours flying around..
unless those cops and government agency also from network marketing..
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Guys, You should be approaching Commercial Affairs Department, SPF if you want to deal with fraudelent MLM companies. These people deals with scams and stuff.
BTW, anyone here from CAD? -
even if they are from CAD, they wont reveal here.. hehehe
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even if they are from CAD, they wont reveal here.. hehehe
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Hi, to all members of the Singapore Police Force, especially experienced people in Commercial Affairs Department......
eh hem hem....
WHAT THE FREAKING HELL ARE YOU GUYS DOING? SLEEPING ON THE JOB? DAMNIT, THERE ARE MANY GODDAMN SCAMS OUT THERE, GET UP ON YOUR BUTT AND START ARRESTING, YOU PIECE OF SHITPIE, LAZY BUMS, )*&^&^%^$##*(*&@)( HIC 8*o&^%*(*)( HIC HIC 8((*&&)(*(*_(_...............
End of announcement.... hehe
If you want ot contact me, feel free to call 1800-LAURENCE82 hee hee -
Haha,
I went to the website for Worldwide Scam Network and read an article. It mentioned
'Con Artists and MLM scam programs move at the speed of the Internet - the American Justice system still moves slower than the Pony Express. By the time complaints are received and an investigation is initiated, the program has already collapsed, the web sites are deleted, the money is moved offshore, and the founders have launched another program with a new variation on the same old scam.
With all of the problems facing the American people and the law enforcement agencies these days, a $25 investment in Going Platinum will never even show up on their radar. And with established rights of due process (which we fully support) the time frame from complaint to conviction is usually measured in years'
It says American Justice System moving slower than Pony Express bwahahahaha........
Ok, enough of that. But does that apply to Singapore too, coz we still see large scams hogging the limelight here? -
Duh.. To think my school initially send me to venture era for my attachment. Haha. *stabs LO* But my teacher in charge sent me to a reserach center instead. W00t.
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tell me more abt VE's water purify thingy
saw some 'experiment' concerning the tap water turned black and stuffs...any chemistry logic behind it?? -
Hmm, what school is that? I didnt know our education institutions are opened to MLM. Btw, many Ivy League uni in US started course on MLM already, like Harvard. Even a superskeptic prof research MLM and declares it to be the 21st century biz after shares and insurance in 90s.Originally posted by Dudu:Duh.. To think my school initially send me to venture era for my attachment. Haha. *stabs LO* But my teacher in charge sent me to a reserach center instead. W00t.
However, it need not to be school sending people. The school could openly invites biz to come in, and they didnt know VE background. Hope its not SIM.......... -
Surprise Surprise! Singapore polytechnic. I'm in a science course though. Is ventra era a mlm company in the first place?
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Yes, its called electrolysis, but works on metal and inorganic contents in water. It consist of two metal probe attached to a electical unit. I forgot the exact porcess, however electicity cause inorganic materials in water to show themselves up, plus on the metal probe too. Electroplating is used to cover a sheet of metal with metal of another kind, like bronze on corrugated iron. Hope I am not wrong on this. The engineers can explain better.Originally posted by NeonTetra:tell me more abt VE's water purify thingy
saw some 'experiment' concerning the tap water turned black and stuffs...any chemistry logic behind it??
However, many thing to note. Is the probe approved for local use, and is it comes from recognised institutions like FDA US? Secondly, does the water purifier removes particles even 0.5,0.4 to 0.001 micron small? If its higher, forget abt the water purifier. I have seen better ones. Thirdly, is it using reverse osmosis? coz, RO is the best technique available, and used by NASA and Coke. Otherwise, there are seriously no better technology.
These questions are not exhaustive if you guys are looking for water purifier. -
nope....just add that 'solution' to the tap water and the color changesOriginally posted by laurence82:Yes, its called electrolysis, but works on metal and inorganic contents in water. It consist of two metal probe attached to a electical unit. I forgot the exact porcess, however electicity cause inorganic materials in water to show themselves up, plus on the metal probe too. Electroplating is used to cover a sheet of metal with metal of another kind, like bronze on corrugated iron. Hope I am not wrong on this. The engineers can explain better.
However, many thing to note. Is the probe approved for local use, and is it comes from recognised institutions like FDA US? Secondly, does the water purifier removes particles even 0.5,0.4 to 0.001 micron small? If its higher, forget abt the water purifier. I have seen better ones. Thirdly, is it using reverse osmosis? coz, RO is the best technique available, and used by NASA and Coke. Otherwise, there are seriously no better technology.
These questions are not exhaustive if you guys are looking for water purifier. -
Wow, first time, my friend told me of this "trick" once. He was a vacuum cleaner saleman, and use "chemical" ard certain area to "expose bacteria"Originally posted by NeonTetra:nope....just add that 'solution' to the tap water and the color changes
Prob is, we know certain solution add to certain chemicals can find out what is the content of something, like adding magnesium metal to hydrochloric acid to producs hydrogen and metal chloride.Hehe....
However, we do not and, most of us do not know how to to verify the solution they add to the water. Scary. They can tell us A + B + C according to science, but I do not know of this method...
(someone from behind pushes laurence82 away, shouts "Siam lah, dont know still stand here talk cock, hogging forum space, lim peh kah le kong....) -
i seeOriginally posted by laurence82:Wow, first time, my friend told me of this "trick" once. He was a vacuum cleaner saleman, and use "chemical" ard certain area to "expose bacteria"
Prob is, we know certain solution add to certain chemicals can find out what is the content of something, like adding magnesium metal to hydrochloric acid to producs hydrogen and metal chloride.Hehe....
However, we do not and, most of us do not know how to to verify the solution they add to the water. Scary. They can tell us A + B + C according to science, but I do not know of this method...
(someone from behind pushes laurence82 away, shouts "Siam lah, dont know still stand here talk cock, hogging forum space, lim peh kah le kong....) 