Originally posted by eagle:Hi the_fallen,
how has year 2010 been treating for you? Good? :)
Hi egale,
I'm doing fine. Have you made some killings in the market with all positive signs?
Originally posted by likeyou:I dont really like mlm people trying to sell their products to me.
But normally or rather 100%, I will nvr meet them for any foc lunch or goodies. No way.
That's good, if you know what you want and don't want. Just stick to it.
To deter people from attempting to sell to you (those hard selling agents), just decline them politely will do the job.
Originally posted by the_fallen:Hi egale,
I'm doing fine. Have you made some killings in the market with all positive signs?
The amount I made from the market is less than what I made outside :)
Achieved my 2nd 100k. Going for the next 8 in 3 years time. Not sure if I can do it.
Originally posted by eagle:The amount I made from the market is less than what I made outside :)
Achieved my 2nd 100k. Going for the next 8 in 3 years time. Not sure if I can do it.
Believe in yourself is the best solutions.
"Aim for the stars and you'll land on the moon."
Good Luck. =)
actually they really make use of people ....like real naive people....to get themselves rich....by teaching them wrong values......and asking them to their customers and sign them on the 1st day seeing them...like "dun be ridiculous" 1st day and you wanna sign me on???
I certianly hope you are not making a "blanket" statement (@JK), as nothing can be farther from the truth. There is a huge difference between ripened opportunity and greedy opportunist. In almost every environment, MLM or electronic sales, you will find a spectrum of "sales" professionals . . . . from snakes who will take your money, to well-honed facilitators who help people make sound purchase/market decisions. Just my $.02.
Originally posted by Jefferie_K:actually they really make use of people ....like real naive people....to get themselves rich....by teaching them wrong values......and asking them to their customers and sign them on the 1st day seeing them...like "dun be ridiculous" 1st day and you wanna sign me on???
do you mind elaborating why you felt this way?
did you take part in any of the mlm company to-date?
i want to sell my mother to MLM
which MLM want to buy my mother?
Originally posted by PedoBear:i want to sell my mother to MLM
which MLM want to buy my mother?
Do you mean that you want to help your mother accept MLM?
Or are you just trying to crack a joke?
People in the mlm line are simply selling products at a VERY VERY VERY marked up prices. Only foolish customers who didnt bother to do any price research will fall for their pressure tactics.
A product which cost little to make can be sold many times the amount. When u quote them, they like to answer/qns back...saying this is similar to real business or have u been to MLM company b4 blablabla.
MLM people dont admit it, they are always in denial; that they are a bunch hard sale, hard pressuring, hard tactics salesman. When they haven get your money, they treat u like god, when u hand over your money to them, u are useless to them. The sky high prices are used to feed the people on every level of the "multi level".
They think they are businessmen but in fact the company dont belong to them.
They simply dont admit it, but they are living a guilt. Blinded by greed.
To be fair, nothing wrong with selling at marked up prices.
Do you expect factories to sell to you at cost price? Do you expect boutique shops to sell clothes to you at cost price? Do you expect online supplement shops to sell to you at cost price?
Or do you want them to sell to you at twice or thrice cost price? Think again.
Even the iphone cover protector you see sold in those small shops have been marked up at least 10 times their costs. And the factories sold to these small shops at at least 10 times their own costs too!
Originally posted by jgho83:People in the mlm line are simply selling products at a VERY VERY VERY marked up prices. Only foolish customers who didnt bother to do any price research will fall for their pressure tactics.
A product which cost little to make can be sold many times the amount. When u quote them, they like to answer/qns back...saying this is similar to real business or have u been to MLM company b4 blablabla.
MLM people dont admit it, they are always in denial; that they are a bunch hard sale, hard pressuring, hard tactics salesman. When they haven get your money, they treat u like god, when u hand over your money to them, u are useless to them. The sky high prices are used to feed the people on every level of the "multi level".
They think they are businessmen but in fact the company dont belong to them.
They simply dont admit it, but they are living a guilt. Blinded by greed.
Well, it's all part and parcel of life..Return On Investment. It's nothing but the truth..
Quote a few real life examples:
Every thing cost money and Return On Investment is the only possible way to grow money. If you resist the very idea of this, you deserve to be poor all your life.
Lets just get real, stop living in denial. There's no escape. It is your own negative thinking which you need to get rid of, stop running away from facts.
Money is deep rooted in every thing in our society locally and globally..face it..or go be a monk if you don't want to live in a materialistic society
Well said, The Fallen . . .agreed.
Originally posted by Plutoclub317:Well said, The Fallen . . .agreed.
Thanks.
It is my duty and responsibility as a thread starter to ensure everything is in proper order.
hey guys, are there any other complaints about new companies or new agents?
like new creative ways not previously discussed before?
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Originally posted by Clementmvt:-
Next time and in future, kindly either open your own thread, else just a PM to me will do.
This thread is solely used for the intention of handling general mlm compaints regardless of any company.
Plus give me a website address/url for reference of information first before I decide if i'm in interested in knowing more.
Nonetheless,
Thanks for your invitiation.
Regards,
fallen.
Originally posted by ComplaintKing.com:please add all your mlm complaints and scams here at http://complaintking.com . We are compling all scams and complaints from consumers together so that everyone can learn from there.
example of another person trying to highjack & direct traffic to their personal website probably with commercial intent when the obvious is that i have being giving free advices and consultation in this sgforums ever since.
i'll high-light this post to Moderator since there's a No Advertising policy in sgforums like most other forums.
If anyone of you are in MLM, insurance or property agent and seek an alternative differs from MLM, insurance or property, perhaps you can make an appointment with [email protected]. You do not have high or any upline, meaning commission do not share with anyone except yourself.
If you want to get into a get rich scheme, sorry than the above is not for you. You are your own performance.
Originally posted by wilfredng:If anyone of you are in MLM, insurance or property agent and seek an alternative differs from MLM, insurance or property, perhaps you can make an appointment with [email protected]. You do not have high or any upline, meaning commission do not share with anyone except yourself.
If you want to get into a get rich scheme, sorry than the above is not for you. You are your own performance.
Typical example of a poor if not un-trained sales agent.
Leeching onto others people's thread, providing unrelated (junk) materials to increase their own publicity at other people's expense instead of creating their own thread.
Even side-tracking from the topic of the thread. Goes to how desperate this person is whoever and whatever he is attempting to promote/sell/advertise.
Showing clear signs and indication of him not knowing who and where his customers are. Failing the simplest basic requirement as a sales person for not knowing who are the business's targeted customers.
That's what happens in scams, when they attempt to blindly sell products/service/investment to gullible individuals who knows nothing.
Practice precaution if you want to safeguard your hard earn money.
Is it okay for me to share a Multi-level consumer network here?
no it is not.
Originally posted by Johnnycoco:Is it okay for me to share a Multi-level consumer network here?
To Answer Your Question: It is not okay.
Start your own thread if you want to share, this way you get to learn if your information is welcomed by the readers and forums users in here.
Riding on other people's thread will give you poor results, which is not in your best interest. Does that answers your question?
Anyway, you posted in the wrong thread as usual. Newbies always tend to go for the highest viewership thread for maximal publicity, but never realize it is a double edge sword, what can help you can also kill you.
Maximal publicity will goes to any post replies, so if its good, you get results, but if its bad, your chances of success drops, percentage of failure increase double-fold, so be careful of what you post in this thread.
If you want to ask a question, do so in my next thread, Ask Your MLM Questions Here not in this thread that talks only about complaints.
I only accept facts, relevant contents about the topic and nothing less.
Hey guys, are there any other complaints lately?
It seems kind of quiet..
If there's anybody who likes to complain about such network marketing companies, feel free to do so here, at least you get to learn from your mistakes and clear your misundestanding if there's any.
2011 is coming to an end in around 50hours by now.
It is best to clear your doubts and queries if you have any, don't leave stones unturned and bring your queries over to the next year.
Since this thread is pretty quiet, and I notice that even Insurance & Financial Sales Agents are getting more desperate for sales in the similar Intense competitive sales line.
With that I'll open this thread to accept complaints against any sales agents.
If there's anybody who have similar experiences with desperate sales agents from regardless of big or small companies, just post them all here.
We'll address the issues one by one and come up with counter-measures to return the favor back to the irresponsible sales agents letting them have a taste of their own ill-trained measures.
Recently my ex-upline who introduced me into the 1st company contacted me again..and it seems like he is still the same like before..didn't learn from his mistakes..and jump right in without even testing water..
Which reminds me of the hard-selling tactics..pushy..begging strategies just because of being friends, it's harder to reject out of being polite..
It's being a few years since this thread was created..i certainly hope this thread has served its purpose of being a useful Myth Buster type of thread for FAQs clarification on why there are many ill-trained distributors..
However time changes, tatics/methods also change..if you got any new complaints, on new technology being employed/used for recruitment..just post them* here for sharing purpose, so all of the readers here can learn and not repeat the same mistakes again.
If 1 person's mistake can benefit many, why not? So do feel free to voice out your complaints/frustrations if you want to be heard.
* - Them refers Please avoid posting Company Brands as it's always the people who fail, not business that fail.