write your complaints against mlm agents here!
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I spend few minutes every so often to churn out answers for homework forum :(
Could have been used for so many things hor :(
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Originally posted by eagle:
I spend few minutes every so often to churn out answers for homework forum :(
Could have been used for so many things hor :(
u dont get paid!
remind me to spank u the next time i see u
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I get paid!!
Just not in the monetary sense
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u mean bodily?
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ya lor
but not physically
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say
where's the link to ur forum?
i can answer some questions on finance and economics
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Originally posted by laurence82:
technically no, i dun churn out walls of text in a topic that not many people are interested in...i dont even understand this bit about 'depth of knowledge'when you are just flaming people who post something on the contrary
*shrugs*
Did i just flame?You're might have missed this thread reply which is found in the 6th user generated post in page 4 which I've posted talking about elementalangel's input.Originally posted by the_fallen:I'll agree with this.. Point Noted
You in-put with regards to this info is valuable.
I don't think you're reading what I'm posting, and instead you're the person who's doing what you think i'm doing. . .
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no more complaints with regards to MLM to date?
hmm..
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
Before I forget about it, I did reply to your questions so far on condition that it's being asked with proper english which can be understood.
what happened to you is partially your mistake if you understand where i'm coming from.
don't reset your thinking to zero and forget everything when i've answered abt the mlm vs tradditional biz wor. don't think of acting blur/forgetful like what other sales distributors do in sales.. while you and the rest of the forum users complain, some times, some users also does display usage of underhand tactics used by bad sales distributors too..
alright back after so long ... suddenly remembered this tread and rmbed to reply you
pardon me for my past misunderstandings about property agents/ insurance agents.
As for property agents, there are two types.
The ones who join companies and those who do it by their own.
Those who join companies join usually because they do not have a licence and thus have to make use of the companies licence in order to do their transactions, otherwise it would be that they are paid a huge sum of money by the company to lead their team.Those who work themselves (not for another property agent company) are those who already have a licence and do not want any companies to take a cut of their comission, thus forsaking their low basic pay(if any)
The first example do not call themselves bosses. The latter do not usually call themselves bosses/entrepreneurs but instead used the humble name of a property agent.
As for insurance agents, there are two types as well.
Those who get a very high basic pay but low comission(those working in large insurance firms/banks) or those that get a low basic pay but obsessively huge ammount of commisions( those working in smaller insurance companies or are usually part time workers)
Neither do they call themselves bosses.
anyway the definition of an entrepreneur is someone who organizes a business venture and assumes the risk for it.
There are many similarities and differences between them. However if we look at it this way, many mlms claim to be similar to such firms and yet insurance/property firms are trying their best to distance themselves from mlm. Its quite obvious which is a better choice.
These are the only i remembered not answering correctly, however if you have any further questions you may post your reply here.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
alright back after so long ... suddenly remembered this tread and rmbed to reply you
pardon me for my past misunderstandings about property agents/ insurance agents.
As for property agents, there are two types.
The ones who join companies and those who do it by their own.
Those who join companies join usually because they do not have a licence and thus have to make use of the companies licence in order to do their transactions, otherwise it would be that they are paid a huge sum of money by the company to lead their team.Those who work themselves (not for another property agent company) are those who already have a licence and do not want any companies to take a cut of their comission, thus forsaking their low basic pay(if any)
The first example do not call themselves bosses. The latter do not usually call themselves bosses/entrepreneurs but instead used the humble name of a property agent.
As for insurance agents, there are two types as well.
Those who get a very high basic pay but low comission(those working in large insurance firms/banks) or those that get a low basic pay but obsessively huge ammount of commisions( those working in smaller insurance companies or are usually part time workers)
Neither do they call themselves bosses.
anyway the definition of an entrepreneur is someone who organizes a business venture and assumes the risk for it.
There are many similarities and differences between them. However if we look at it this way, many mlms claim to be similar to such firms and yet insurance/property firms are trying their best to distance themselves from mlm. Its quite obvious which is a better choice.
These are the only i remembered not answering correctly, however if you have any further questions you may post your reply here.
eh...
sorry but erm...
i don't understand your intention of the above posting..
are you...
1) trying to answer to an previously un-answered question or
2) trying to give new examples by illustrating property agents and insurance agents.
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
eh...
sorry but erm...
i don't understand your intention of the above posting..
are you...
1) trying to answer to an previously un-answered question or
2) trying to give new examples by illustrating property agents and insurance agents.
actually its to show the fact that mlms are the black sheeps to the directsales industry.
And that joining an mlm company does not make you a "boss" or any entrepreneur.
Thirdly, its to show that there are insuranceagents/property agents who do get pay.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
actually its to show the fact that mlms are the black sheeps to the directsales industry.
And that joining an mlm company does not make you a "boss" or any entrepreneur.
Thirdly, its to show that there are insuranceagents/property agents who do get pay.
Okay, perhaps you could better explain it by offering real-life examples which is the best.
of course since it involves real-life examples, just replace the brand to something similar or highlight any newsarticle so we could know it without attracting skeptics against certain company to flame the threads bringing unwanted posts.
For example since you mention there's insurance/property agents who recieve basic pay, perhaps you can share the knowledge/info with me, so those jobless ppl will know where to get a job when they need it. (just the closest color or quote which the company might have used in the past so we can have some clues to which you're refering to)
With regards to who's the black sheep - i can only comment that there are still people in direct sales who practise underhand methods to scam ppl despite working in banks etc..Just look at the previous few months of Straits Time, other than Madoff, there are a couple more US ppl who are caught for doing ponzi schemes and have since being bought to justice thanks to the tight auditing after the arrest and sentencing of Maddoff.
I still remember reading an article which says that there is at least 1 new Ponzi Scheme popping up in the US market every week lor.
However it's totally true that once joining a mlm company, that agent/distributor is just considered a franchisee. But they can at anytime buy their way to become a boss by form on investing in a business - example open a Chicken Rice stall etc.
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eh, what's with the silence in these forum?
I thought this was the most happening with lots of gossip forum before i enlisted, why such a big difference when i'm about to ord?
even before i enlisted, this used to be super happneing blog for years with latest gossips which i didn't even know..gosh..i wonder what's happening now..
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no one got any other complaints with regards to mlm already??
it seems got a little bit of activity in the forum..but not as active as before..
no takers?
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Hi The Fallen...
I am a true businessman running my own little business in the A&P industry. I'm here just to look around and surprised to read your posts. I enjoy reading your posts. Are you still in MLM? Can PM me and we can chat a little about your MLM career & knowledge.
Cheers.....
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Originally posted by the_fallen:
eh, what's with the silence in these forum?
I thought this was the most happening with lots of gossip forum before i enlisted, why such a big difference when i'm about to ord?
even before i enlisted, this used to be super happneing blog for years with latest gossips which i didn't even know..gosh..i wonder what's happening now..
Busy mah... nowadays I spending time to earn my 2nd 100k ;)
How's life?
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Originally posted by Cool.Sardine:
Hi The Fallen...
I am a true businessman running my own little business in the A&P industry. I'm here just to look around and surprised to read your posts. I enjoy reading your posts. Are you still in MLM? Can PM me and we can chat a little about your MLM career & knowledge.
Cheers.....
It's a Yes/No answer if you ask me that question
>>Coz I'm in the process of doing my own projects as an entrepreneurship and picking up other skills necessary to help me in the direction which i'm seeking.
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Originally posted by eagle:
Busy mah... nowadays I spending time to earn my 2nd 100k ;)
How's life?
Finally, somebody firmilar replied..
That's great, hope to hear news of you earing your 2nd 100K - I sincerely hope it has nothing to do with Gambling, Casino Ship and compensation plan etc la..
As long as it's legal, ethical, I wish you all the besT.
As for me..like my reply above, I'm starting to concentrate on my own projects now that I've finally ORD loh..happily working parT timE in a Branded Retail Outlet to gain experience and pick up some ideas too..
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oic... Congrats on ORD-ing! :)
I share with u my blog on my journey to financial freedom and you shall see
Shall pm you on the address
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good to see finally got some1 take sunshine empire to court. Hope this case will alert everyone to be careful of mlm companies. Those that have claimed mlm companies are there to help u in this forum b4, finally can shut up.
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Originally posted by mlmersrlosers:
good to see finally got some1 take sunshine empire to court. Hope this case will alert everyone to be careful of mlm companies. Those that have claimed mlm companies are there to help u in this forum b4, finally can shut up.
u know, they will tell u Sunshine Empire is an exception
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Originally posted by eagle:
oic... Congrats on ORD-ing! :)
I share with u my blog on my journey to financial freedom and you shall see
Shall pm you on the address
thanks =p
got it liao..but it's a bit risky isn't it?
anyway - SE is no exception with the only exception that it's a super mega big scam in asia..
watch the news later - it will boardcast a ex-agent taking money from her own pocket to pay her downlines -_-''
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Originally posted by eagle:
u know, they will tell u Sunshine Empire is an exception
well, they are being brainwashed till the extent it's beyond imagination because right now they are working on another project already..which most of us should already know thus the person said in the newspaper telling the distributors not to worry what..
anyway to prevent this from involving into a SE thread, and resulting in moderator closing my thread, PLEASE CEASE ALL Discussions of SE - we know it's bad and that's all there is to it..nothing can be done whatsoever.
Peace =)
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Originally posted by eagle:
u know, they will tell u Sunshine Empire is an exception
i would think so, SE is the only company so far to be caught by law on this scale, the rest just fall into pieces