Originally posted by MohamedF:Cancer still can't be cured because it's not a disease... its a mutation of your own cells... cymotherapy is still the only known way of killing cancer cells but VE products I've heard can only PREVENT cancer...
Colostrum can be guarnteed to cure arthritis and, even help people recover from cancer, but it must follow certain conditions set by our nutritionist... some whom have taken our products can feel the difference within 2 weeks, others in 2 months... this is because of the absorbtion of colostrum into the system... if your colon is encrusted, the absorbtion of many nutrients is blocked...
And yes, people can stop taking colostrum and still won't suffer any more pains, but it depends on your diet and your lifestyle... you chose a healthy diet and lifestyle, you won't get arthritis again...
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First of all, cancer is a disease. The definition of disease could be found in google. Just type define: disease. You will get the answers. Btw, I believe it is spelled as Chemotherapy and not cymotherapy. A lot of products and methods can be claimed to prevent cancer, but no product should claim to cure cancer yet.
As I have posted earlier on, there is a set of rules according to the guidelines on medical advertisements and sale promotions in Singapore, no advertisement should claim their products can cure arthritis. Moreover, why did you say that certain conditions? Mind sharing what are the certain conditions, if you know? By the way is your nutritionist a CCN? Certified Clinical Nutritionist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiBuAWvDB0 This would be a good start to know what is a CCN. Because anyone can claim that they are a nutritionist. Note! It doesnt mean you have a pHD qualification or you have a Doctor, e.g. Dr Lin, infront of your name means you are a nutritionist. Imagine a pHD in Urban Geography say he is a nutritionist, but he just says oh I am a pHD holder. These days, alot of people when they see the person has a pHD qualification or has a Dr infront of their names, they would believe in whatever they say. I find that very ridiculous.
I apologise if I'm being mean or trying to seem to pick on mistakes. However, I just do not like people to claim things where they are not certified, or they claim from hear say. I especially do not like when people twist messages said by others as it could be disastrous. I wonder do anyone here actually agree with my point of view?
First of all, cancer is a disease. The definition of disease could be found in google. Just type define: disease. You will get the answers. Btw, I believe it is spelled as Chemotherapy and not cymotherapy. A lot of products and methods can be claimed to prevent cancer, but no product should claim to cure cancer yet.
As I have posted earlier on, there is a set of rules according to the guidelines on medical advertisements and sale promotions in Singapore, no advertisement should claim their products can cure arthritis. Moreover, why did you say that certain conditions? Mind sharing what are the certain conditions, if you know? By the way is your nutritionist a CCN? Certified Clinical Nutritionist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiBuAWvDB0 This would be a good start to know what is a CCN. Because anyone can claim that they are a nutritionist. Note! It doesnt mean you have a pHD qualification or you have a Doctor, e.g. Dr Lin, infront of your name means you are a nutritionist. Imagine a pHD in Urban Geography say he is a nutritionist, but he just says oh I am a pHD holder. These days, alot of people when they see the person has a pHD qualification or has a Dr infront of their names, they would believe in whatever they say. I find that very ridiculous.
Immunoglobins btw need to be injected to be effective. If I am not wrong, if you ingest immunoglobins, it would be digested as they are proteins. I saw LFI's website, they didnt seem to claim that Imu6 can cure arthritis. MohamedF perhaps you could consult your nutritionist on whether you could post such claims on the net first. I know you are eager to sell your products here, but getting facts right are more important.
I apologise if I'm being mean or trying to seem to pick on mistakes. However, I just do not like people to claim things where they are not certified, or they claim from hear say. I especially do not like when people twist messages said by others as it could be disastrous. I wonder do anyone here actually agree with my point of view?
Originally posted by rhappy86:First of all, cancer is a disease. The definition of disease could be found in google. Just type define: disease. You will get the answers. Btw, I believe it is spelled as Chemotherapy and not cymotherapy. A lot of products and methods can be claimed to prevent cancer, but no product should claim to cure cancer yet.
As I have posted earlier on, there is a set of rules according to the guidelines on medical advertisements and sale promotions in Singapore, no advertisement should claim their products can cure arthritis. Moreover, why did you say that certain conditions? Mind sharing what are the certain conditions, if you know? By the way is your nutritionist a CCN? Certified Clinical Nutritionist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMiBuAWvDB0 This would be a good start to know what is a CCN. Because anyone can claim that they are a nutritionist. Note! It doesnt mean you have a pHD qualification or you have a Doctor, e.g. Dr Lin, infront of your name means you are a nutritionist. Imagine a pHD in Urban Geography say he is a nutritionist, but he just says oh I am a pHD holder. These days, alot of people when they see the person has a pHD qualification or has a Dr infront of their names, they would believe in whatever they say. I find that very ridiculous.
I apologise if I'm being mean or trying to seem to pick on mistakes. However, I just do not like people to claim things where they are not certified, or they claim from hear say. I especially do not like when people twist messages said by others as it could be disastrous. I wonder do anyone here actually agree with my point of view?
Note... I mentioned colostrum can help people recover from cancer... I did not claim it can cure cancer... that would be a miracle...
2, my firefox has no spell check so forgive me for any other typo I have...
3, I have yet to see these rules... but even with the rules, Colostrum can definately cure arthritis is not and advertisement, it is a fact...
4, In certain conditions because you cannot cure any diseases by eating colostrum and having a diet of 5 Mega Mac per day... The condition cannot be specified because different people have different problems, but if you want me to put it in general, the customers must have a proper diet to help treat the condition
5, and yes, we have Qualified Nutritionist... The didn't get their Dr. by changing their IC...
Originally posted by rhappy86:Immunoglobins btw need to be injected to be effective. If I am not wrong, if you ingest immunoglobins, it would be digested as they are proteins. I saw LFI's website, they didnt seem to claim that Imu6 can cure arthritis. MohamedF perhaps you could consult your nutritionist on whether you could post such claims on the net first. I know you are eager to sell your products here, but getting facts right are more important.
I am sorry to point out that you are wrong about immunoglobins... It can be taken orally..
http://www.proliantinc.com/health/products/immune-enhancement.asp
The website did not claim to cure arthritis because it was kept in brief... I as an agent am elaborating further of the benefits of colostrum... Our nutritionist and many other nurtitionist around the world agrees that colostrum can cure arthritis...
I found a website that said this:
The consumer needs to be aware that the benefits of colostrum –particularly in specific disease states like arthritis- have not been proven to be effective in large controlled studies. Almost all the studies have been small and uncontrolled. In addition, many of the supporting pieces of evidence on websites touting the benefits of colostrum are testimonials.
Although colostrums is theoretically promising, it needs more good quality research behind it before it becomes accepted. This isn’t to say that it isn’t effective. It may well be as good as all the claims say it is. Unfortunately, when statements are made about a product that are too good and that the substance can cure everything, I think it pays to be skeptical.
from http://www.arthritis-treatment-and-relief.com/colostrum-and-arthritis.html 2nd and 3rd last paragraph.
I think i agree with Huzane89 that it should be treat arthritis and not cure. =)
Originally posted by MohamedF:I am sorry to point out that you are wrong about immunoglobins... It can be taken orally..
http://www.proliantinc.com/health/products/immune-enhancement.asp
The website did not claim to cure arthritis because it was kept in brief... I as an agent am elaborating further of the benefits of colostrum... Our nutritionist and many other nurtitionist around the world agrees that colostrum can cure arthritis...
First of all, this is so much better by showing a website that has scientific references, those at the bottom. So now I will agree with you that immunoglobin can be taken orally. Hope when you claim more stuff in future, you could provide with more such references, it will be great. =)
More on immunoglobins taken orally
Well the letter that was given is 6 years out of date...
Though I cannot argue about the letter as faces are not presented... The letter itself have not mentioned that Colostrum cannot cure arthritis...
Before I go on, the reason why I am extremely confident on Colostrum is because it had actually cured my mother of arthritis... YES, I said cure... she clinically doesn't have arthritis...
but that doesn't mean she won't get arthritis if she stop taking colostrum... mainly is because we don't really watch our diet...
Listen, if you are very curious about our product, I would like to invite you to our health and wellness center where you can meet our doctors and nutritionist in person... how about it?
Originally posted by rhappy86:
First of all, this is so much better by showing a website that has scientific references, those at the bottom. So now I will agree with you that immunoglobin can be taken orally. Hope when you claim more stuff in future, you could provide with more such references, it will be great. =)More on immunoglobins taken orally
Ahhh... but those are simple taking immunoglobins in its raw form...
colostrum however is not pure immuniglobins... Colostrum in its pure state can actually regulate over active immune cells that causes autoimmune diseases http://www.carttonic.com/files/file_download.php?fi_id=688
Again... my offer to meet our nutritionist still stands...
hi guys seems like a pretty heated conversation. well ill begin introducing myself first, im indeed a member of lfi. but if you are wondering if i am a brain washed member, i highly doubt so tho.
well i do want to make a point. i agree that imu- 6 cannot cure or treat cancer. but i do know for a fact that the national cancer foundation is using Bovine colostrum ( note i did not say imu-6 due to my best of knowledge they are using a different kind of bovine colostrum ). whilst bovine colostrum cannot treat/cure cancer its know to slow down the development of cancer. my further research on the ingredient has revealed that bovine colostrum has also the ability to prevent formation of cancerous cells though.
personally, i practise muay thai. i must admit that using imu- 6 does improve my overal stamina and muscle recovery as stated from my research. i do a fair bit of conditioning hence forth muscle recovery is important to me too.
Last i do hope that i have contributed something of substantial value to this topic thankyou
i totally again that why should we join lfi. cos it is totally difference from others. cos it is hign brick model to make money, though it mightt be slow but can earn big if you persist
So how's the men talk issue in LFI?
Originally posted by libragirl70:i totally again that why should we join lfi. cos it is totally difference from others. cos it is hign brick model to make money, though it mightt be slow but can earn big if you persist
Your england got some problems... I don't know if you're asking a question or leaving a comment?
Mentalk issue. Alot thought that by creating news or fake ppl will make LFI fall. but no .
Till now , the doctor , the ill patient, all unknown ?
How to explain ?
HSA ppl come ? Don ever know who came ?
and also sorry that time type too fast and not very good.
what i mean is
i totally agree that we should we join lfi. cos it is totally difference from others. cos it is hign brick model system to make money, though it might be slow but can earn big if you persist.
Unlike others when you can earn big at first than will get lesser if your persist.
http://www.asiaone.com/Health/News/Story/A1Story20080531-68149.html
My friend was in LFI and after this issue he stopped and told mi something was wrong ..
Please get the doctor name and just any 1 paitent name .
Every such case always have doctor name.
Name me one lo
Originally posted by libragirl70:Please get the doctor name and just any 1 paitent name .
Every such case always have doctor name.
Name me one lo
Chill man, why so denfensive? It's fact that LFI sell Mentalk but hey i dunno wat happen so right here i am asking.
http://sgforums.com/forums/14/topics/320175
So your answer to the above topic is?
Hi Everyone... There will be another health seminar this Saturday at 1400hrs in Malay and another on next week on Wednesday at 2000hrs in English...
The seminar will include "Drugs don't cure you, your body does" and some of the major health issues to struck the average Singaporean including High Blood preasure, heart diseases, diabeties, stroke, obicity, cancer, etc where they come from and how to prevent and maybe cure them
Pm me by friday 1600hrs to book a spot for the Saturday seminar and by Tuesday 1600hrs for the Wednesday seminar... hope to see you there... I highly recommend it...
Hi guys... I'd like to share with you one of the services we have over at LFI...
Its called the "Inbody 3.0"
http://www.smitechasia.com.sg/product.php?selected_product_id=122
Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis (BIA) sends minute electric currents that a patient is unable to feel. It measures biological impedance to measure body composition.
InBody 3.0 measures body composition using the latest BIA technology rather than relying on empirical estimates. Our method uses multi-frequencies (5д, 50 д, 250 д and 500 д) and measures various parts of the body more accurately than other instruments. InBody 3.0 is used by specialists.
InBody 3.0 created a new standard for measuring "Body Composition". With its features and high efficiency, it is used in various settings such as diagnosis centers, clinics for internal medicine, gynecology, plastic surgery, and obesity, Oriental medical center and others. In addition, the InBody 3.0 is an essential instrument in fitness centers where people want professional analysis. It is easy to measure body composition.
In Singapore, there are only a few known places that have the Inbody service... One is in Alexandra hospital but it has a consultation fee of $100/+ and another one is California Fitness but it only allow members to use it...
But here in LFI, the inbody service is a mere $10/ plus GST and consultation is absolutely free...
From this machine, you can have a 95% accurate diagnosis on your body's composition and see how exatly healthy you are... This machine with an experienced consultant can even detect the coming of some diseases like kidney failure...
Here's an example of the result of the Inbody machine...
Originally posted by libragirl70:Please get the doctor name and just any 1 paitent name .
Every such case always have doctor name.
Name me one lo
actually HSA state it then no need doctor to prove already right since HSA is an authority figure, and the news is from the straits times, but i no saying anything about your company ok, so many products, can't remember at all.
For more information about diabetes, you can visit http://www.diabetes.com.sg.
I will park myself here when I have the time.
There are a lot of misinformation that needs to be addressed. Well I can copy and paste my previous encounter with LFI people here.
Meanwhile, let me know how's the product recall procedure for Menergy is coming along.
After Mentalk Candy and Menergy, what's next in line for LFI?
"Consumer health is of utmost importance to any organisation"
ONOZ LFI is in bad news for the product menergy,LFI members what's the news from your side?
Originally posted by MohamedF:Hi guys, sorry for dissappearing for a while... my day job had something on...
Anyway, after discussing with some of the directors and my network, and getting feedback from some of the threads, I've decided that even though sales is important, sharing is even more important... After all, its call Network Marketing, not Network Sales for a reason...
Currently, I'm working for a company called LFI which deals with Health and Wellness.
Here's the website: http://www.lfintlgroup.com/index_intl.html
In the website, you can see that LFI deals with Traditional Chinese Medicine in Long Far, health care and derma care in Labratory Formula, Linac Fusion deals with future tech health care and Luxury Finesse will be coming soon once we finished building our chain of spas.
To say LFI as a Network Marketing company would be inaccurat because it is more of a hybrid company. Other than Network Marketing, we have business partners which retail our products which are Guardian and GNC.
We also have celebrity endorsement, which you may have seen somewhere...
Other than health, we also deal in beauty with our Derma care series and consumors of our Derma care series are elegible to enter out beauty pagent held every year.
http://www.lfintlgroup.com/gallery/gallery_sg_20080614.html
But what ultimately attracted me to this company is the fact that it helped my mother a lot in terms of health and have virtually cured her of artritis through its products and can even cure diabeties in the right conditions.
In accordance to forum rule, I am not allowed to advertise our product... but if some ask about our product, I am allowed to answer him/her...
Your advertisement in the abovementioned quote has contravened the MEDICINES (ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE) (CHAPTER 177) if anyone happen to hear or receive any form of advertisment or sale tactics that contravene this law, feel free to contact the government agency to take action against the company/person concerned.
Interpretation of the MEDICINES (ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE) (CHAPTER 177)
2. In this Act, unless there is something repugnant in the subject or context —
"advertisement" includes any notice, circular, pamphlet, label, wrapper or other document, any announcement made orally or by any means of producing or transmitting light or sound and any other form of advertising;
"substance recommended as a medicine" , in relation to the sale of an article consisting of or comprising a substance so recommended, means a substance which is referred to —
(a) on the article, or on any wrapper or container in which the article is sold, or on any label affixed to, or in any document enclosed in, the article or such a wrapper or container;
(b) in any placard or other document exhibited at the place where the article is sold; or
(c) in any advertisement published after the passing of this Act by or on behalf of the manufacturer of the article, or the person carrying on the business in the course of which the article was sold, or, in a case where the article was sold under a proprietary designation, the proprietor of the designation,
Prohibition of advertisements relating to certain diseases.
3. —(1) Subject to the provisions of this Act, no person shall take part in the publication of any advertisement referring to any article or articles of any description in terms which are calculated to lead to the use of that article or articles of that description as a medicine, appliance or remedy for the purpose of treatment of human beings for any of the diseases and conditions set out in the Schedule:
DISEASES AND CONDITIONS
1.Blindness
2.Cancer
3.Cataract
4.Drug addiction
5.Deafness
6.Diabetes
7.Epilepsy or fits
8.Hypertension
9.Insanity
10.Kidney diseases
11.Leprosy
12.Menstrual disorders
13.Paralysis
14.Tuberculosis
15.Sexual function
16.Infertility
17.Impotency
18.Frigidity
19.Conception and pregnancy.
(2) In any proceedings for a contravention of subsection (1), it shall be a defence for the person charged to prove that the advertisement to which the proceedings relate was published only so far as was reasonably necessary to bring it to the notice of persons of the following classes or of one or some of them:
(a) members of a local or public authority;
(b) members of the governing body of a public hospital;
(c) registered medical practitioners;
(d) registered dentists;
(e) registered nurses and midwives;
(f) registered pharmacists and holders of licences to sell poisons set out in the Schedule to the Poisons Act;
Cap. 234.
(g) persons undergoing training with a view to becoming registered medical practitioners, registered dentists, registered nurses or registered pharmacists.
Originally posted by MohamedF:Well, maybe I haven't seen the guideline that you mentioned... But thanks for putting up this question because it gives me a chance to talk about our 2nd star product...
http://lfintlgroup.com/brands/labfor/hc_imu6.html
The reason why IMU6 is our second best selling product and why many has come to trust LFI... IMU6 is made out of 100% pure bolvine colostrum extracted immidiately within the six hours of a mother cow's calving and approved by renound researcher Doctor Anthony Kleinsmith
The benefits of colostrum is definately amazing... Colostrum is known as a baby's first food, once a baby is born and exposed to the harsh world, nature has provided them with this natural first food to increase it's chances of survival. That's why many doctors advise mothers to breast feed their babies as soon as possible...
So what's inside colostrum that makes it so special? Colostrum is high in natural protein, carbohydrate, NATURAL ANTIBODIES (IgA, IgD, IgE, IgG and IgM) and growth factor IGF.
I could list out all the details and benefits but what most amazing is the growth factor. The high levels of IGF in colostrum promotes growth of new healthy cells and tissue repair. So, by taking colostrum, a diabetic patient can, as long as their kidney is not 100% dead, repair their failing kidney.
Infact, if you have an open would, you can simply apply colostrum on the would and it would speed up the healing and left no scar behind.
I, myself have taken IMU6 colostrum and the most notiable thing about its benefit was that I had fast muscle recovery after my workout. Meaning I don't feel any muscles strains the day after I workout. That's why colostrum is also beneficial for sportsmen with sports related injuries.
As for my mother, she had be suffering from arthritis for over 2 years now and been taking don't know how many doctor's medicine and finally asked to go for surgery. But because we can't afford a surgery, she decided to live with the pain... That was until I gave my mom IMU6 Colostrum capsules and she is no longer arthritic after 1 month...
At first I myself was sceptical, but among all the testimonials, the one that convinced me that IMU6 works is the one of my mother's.
Other's testimonials: http://lfintlgroup.com/exp/exp_imu6.html
So, even if you don't trust Dr Anthony, Vincent Ng, the testimonials, myself or the thousands of sites on the internet supporting colostrum, its ok because we also have a qualified doctor in our health centre that can give you the proper prescription. Infact, many of us when facing with more serious diseases actually consulted with the doctor first before selling to the customer.
Do you have medical journals with high impact factor/Clinical trials to substantiate those points mentioned by you?
* I could list out all the details and benefits but what most amazing is the growth factor. The high levels of IGF in colostrum promotes growth of new healthy cells and tissue repair. So, by taking colostrum, a diabetic patient can, as long as their kidney is not 100% dead, repair their failing kidney.
* Infact, if you have an open would, you can simply apply colostrum on the would and it would speed up the healing and left no scar behind.
* I, myself have taken IMU6 colostrum and the most notiable thing about its benefit was that I had fast muscle recovery after my workout. Meaning I don't feel any muscles strains the day after I workout. That's why colostrum is also beneficial for sportsmen with sports related injuries.
* As for my mother, she had be suffering from arthritis for over 2 years now and been taking don't know how many doctor's medicine and finally asked to go for surgery. But because we can't afford a surgery, she decided to live with the pain... That was until I gave my mom IMU6 Colostrum capsules and she is no longer arthritic after 1 month...
What is the name of the doctor in LFI? His medical registration number? What other advice has he given to you?
Eagerly await your response
Originally posted by MohamedF:Nope, our company manufactures our own products from factories overseas... Singapore is too costly to build a factory... plus raw materials are not present in Singapore...
You may ask your relative... I'm sure he/she will agree with me...
Can you provide all the information about the manufacturing plant and their relevant products? cGMP certified by who?