Mentality of those MLMS
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Originally posted by Phaze:
Isn't the whole point of MLM to get passive income? Isn't that the whole pitch for MLM? That you can earn heaps of money and retire early?
Isn't the only way to earn passive income is to recruit? If you just sell the product, that's not passive income is it?
The problem is that they preach you would get 6 digit income, drive large car, "retire early" and all that crap. It's like saying... if you buy enough toto you'll strike 15M some day
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If you are a businessman, would you manufacture a lousy products and expect it to sell by itself?
I can't tell you what's my complan. Besides, there is a system. Have you read books like Rich Dad Poor Dad or The Business School by Robert Kiyosaki? If you read you know what I mean.
I don't call it preach. Because this is why people join MLM for. Changing from 'E' quadrant to 'B' quadrant. To earn extra income, achieve financial freedom etc.
Last week I went to a international MLM company, Xango. An auntie is earning 20k per month. If an auntie can do it.. so can you. Provided you do it the right way. Ethically.. not like the companies you have named. =)
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Originally posted by Wurq16:
If you are a businessman, would you manufacture a lousy products and expect it to sell by itself?
I can't tell you what's my complan. Besides, there is a system. Have you read books like Rich Dad Poor Dad or The Business School by Robert Kiyosaki? If you read you know what I mean.
I don't call it preach. Because this is why people join MLM for. Changing from 'E' quadrant to 'B' quadrant. To earn extra income, achieve financial freedom etc.
Last week I went to a international MLM company, Xango. An auntie is earning 20k per month. If an auntie can do it.. so can you. Provided you do it the right way. Ethically.. not like the companies you have named. =)
Yes. Microsloth is a lousy product compared to Linux and others, but it overtake others. We think lousy cars like Proton and Chery QQ wont sell, yet they did. Question is how and why.
Why cant tell us your complan? What it got to do with old Robert again?
Why suddenly talk about preaching? What it got to do with people joining in MLM?
So, yuan lai ru ci...its Xango
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Why MLM always preach/pitch that you would earn 6 digit income?
Why does MLM always say good things about the uplines to the point of almost putting them onto idol or god-like status?
Why does Venture Era use hard persuasion and "detention" method where they hold you back and refuse to let you go?
Why does Enyouth / Astral Mag use trickery to trick people down to offices and seminars? Why do agents use the tactic of insulting your dream future, breaking your morale about your job field?
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Its really not worth it for MLM
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Well.. it's your point of view. Some people feel that Microsoft is a good product.
Ok ok.. Let's get to the point. I'm not here trying to change your mindset. Because there are people who feel MLM is a great business model and there will be people who feel MLM is a money game. Some people see the big picture, some don't. I don't want to end up debating here.
From your words, I guess you are a perfectionist. Aren't you? And you prefered to be self employed. Do you?
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Originally posted by redstone:
Why MLM always preach/pitch that you would earn 6 digit income?
Why does MLM always say good things about the uplines to the point of almost putting them onto idol or god-like status?
Why does Venture Era use hard persuasion and "detention" method where they hold you back and refuse to let you go?
Why does Enyouth / Astral Mag use trickery to trick people down to offices and seminars? Why do agents use the tactic of insulting your dream future, breaking your morale about your job field?
In MLM, you can earn $100k per month. You can but not in short period. Maybe 5 to 7 years. Provided people work your system.
Haha.. not say God like. They just want to tell you about their coach and hold them in high posture. I don't think it is necessary. No need to edify till too high up till they look like God.
I'm not sure about their system cause my group never hold people back. When you promised 1 hour presentation, it has to be just 1 hour. I experienced what you had experienced before. They didn't managed to sign you up then they find another person. then another person right? That's hard selling. I feel it's wrong doing.
As for this case, it has to do with their system. NEVER TRICK PEOPLE DOWN. That what I always tell my people. What is the rationale behind it to trick people down? This shows you cant be trusted. In business, we need trustworthy people right? They just shot themselves on their on foot.
I think they should not criticise anyone's job. They should first do fact finding. They should always respect their prospect. :)
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Originally posted by Wurq16:
Well.. it's your point of view. Some people feel that Microsoft is a good product.
Ok ok.. Let's get to the point. I'm not here trying to change your mindset. Because there are people who feel MLM is a great business model and there will be people who feel MLM is a money game. Some people see the big picture, some don't. I don't want to end up debating here.
From your words, I guess you are a perfectionist. Aren't you? And you prefered to be self employed. Do you?
In actual fact it isnt. Ask any IT savvy people and you would know. Yet it beat others. Why?
And you have not answer my series of questions. I am not up to discussing things with people when they jump from Robert Kiyosaki, to self employment , to brainwashing.
After this string of conversation, what is your point?
I am not a perfectionist....I am a realist. Meaning, nobody throw a pile of crap at me and expect me to begin a decent conversation. If you look at your very first post, and then next, and then next...tell me, what the heck you are trying to say, and why did you avoid making a coherent consistent point throughout your posts?
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Originally posted by Wurq16:
Well.. it's your point of view. Some people feel that Microsoft is a good product.
Ok ok.. Let's get to the point. I'm not here trying to change your mindset. Because there are people who feel MLM is a great business model and there will be people who feel MLM is a money game. Some people see the big picture, some don't. I don't want to end up debating here.
From your words, I guess you are a perfectionist. Aren't you? And you prefered to be self employed. Do you?
Perfectionist? You may call me one.
Self employed? Maybe not now. In the long term maybe.
Too bad Enyouth is an unethical and despicable company which teaches, and I mean teaches agents to trick people down and insult their future to break their morale and then they would "come to their rescue" by offering MLM as a way out. They are also the ones which hide their identity as MLM even til the last minute by claiming itself as a SLM company or even agents are "starting own business". It is a shame to the sales line. In sales, first thing, on the surface would be, customer service. Never insult customers, always put him first, etc. Then, ethics, which Enyouth has none.
I'm not against the system of MLM, but rather the unethical ways how it is run. Telling half truths, whole lies, tricking people down, using underhand tactics, hard persuasion, etc. Organisations like EY, VE and SE deserve to be condemned for such actions.
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haha.. I'm actually refering to laurence82.
Enyouth is belongs to James Phang brother if I'm not wrong. And I think an international company is better than a local ones.
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So far, you have not proven that persuasion and convincing isnt needed.
Please provide evidence why so.
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Originally posted by Wurq16:
haha.. I'm actually refering to laurence82.
Enyouth is belongs to James Phang brother if I'm not wrong. And I think an international company is better than a local ones.
Oops paiseh... hehe. Hmm EY's boss is one of the Phangs? Where did you hear this from?
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David Phang
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Originally posted by laurence82:
David Phang
That's disturbing... it seems the Phangs are one unethical bunch. I thought is this Raymond Lim guy (not transport minister)?
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Actually, cant rem the connection, it was so many years ago, when it was Astral Mag
But I know a David Phang was involved somewhere
Ancient history
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So, yuan lai ru ci...its Xango....
so what do they sell??
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speaking of unethical.
my fren wanted to join this Lamp Berger. He gave the money to his best fren. B4 his best fren gave it to management, he decided to quit. His best fren agreed wont give it to management and will return the money to him. Suddenly, his best fren said what if he wanted to give the money to management, what will my fren do? My fren cursed this and that. his best fren finally agreed to not give the money to management..
Guess what. Next day, my fren is a member. And all the talks bout he already gave money and need to be responsible. Best fren betraying best fren.
What u guys think bout this? I feel that my fren did a mistake but his best fren did a terrible mistake after knowing my fren doesnt want to join and he's holding my frens money and yet, he gave it to management after all bullshit promises. Left my fren stranded but he never do anything even if paid. Who wanted to be sub-line of your up-line that is a fucktard?
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So unethical, he placed that person in a spot!
Once money given to management must kena join? I think ur friends should have demanded the money back if he didnt wanna join...
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
So unethical, he placed that person in a spot!
Once money given to management must kena join? I think ur friends should have demanded the money back if he didnt wanna join...
he demanded his best fren to give him back as he borrowed some frens money. but yet his best fren said its his responsibility cuz he already gave him after he promised to give him back the money. what a fren.
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I think this industry can show who a person really is... Some bad, some good... But can really show their true nature... how much did ur friend have to pay to them? and lamp berger sells wat?
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
I think this industry can show who a person really is... Some bad, some good... But can really show their true nature... how much did ur friend have to pay to them? and lamp berger sells wat?
RM2,500 (some his money, some frens money) Lamp Berger is more to lamp with many kinds of aromatic oil inside various kind of lamps or decoration. Can benefit health as they said it. is there any Lamp Berger in Singapore?After my frens incident, i feel that this MLM kind is not trustable.. Today, they are your good friend, the next day, they are stranger to you. Just too much. My fren said his best fren already paid RM 30,000 to get promoted to another level. I wonder how his best fren do now.
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Originally posted by Zarks:
RM2,500 (some his money, some frens money) Lamp Berger is more to lamp with many kinds of aromatic oil inside various kind of lamps or decoration. Can benefit health as they said it. is there any Lamp Berger in Singapore?After my frens incident, i feel that this MLM kind is not trustable.. Today, they are your good friend, the next day, they are stranger to you. Just too much. My fren said his best fren already paid RM 30,000 to get promoted to another level. I wonder how his best fren do now.
wah! So much money?!Must pay RM 30,000 to get to next level?
I am not sure if there's any lamp berger in sg though... I believe that mlm shows a person true colours, like ur friends 'best friend' for one eg...
I have seen ethical agents though... I am also in mlm here... and I dont condone such unethical acts...
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
wah! So much money?!Must pay RM 30,000 to get to next level?
I am not sure if there's any lamp berger in sg though... I believe that mlm shows a person true colours, like ur friends 'best friend' for one eg...
I have seen ethical agents though... I am also in mlm here... and I dont condone such unethical acts...
Yup, this is just another trick from mlm company to trick starting members to jump straigth ahead 2 or 3 levels with RM30,000 in Lamp berger. and those stupid will try their best to get rm30,000.. ridiculous
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Its so funny, with RM 30,000 just to get to another higher lvl? Is it they recruit ppl or do sales that can generate monetary worth of RM 30,000 to the co., or the agent must produce the money?
RM 30,000 can buy car in m'sia...
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it depends on how much they invest in this kind of mlm.. the more they invest, the more probability to trick and lie to ppl no matter what.
A good mlm wont use tricks to lie to ppl. but they will use different approching method. Some are professional approach. A good mlm will not teach u to reveal product or name of company when u go and get ur fren to know more bout this stuff. the one who ask u to reveal company and products name are a loser one. so better quit early