even my smart fren.. also kena scammed! wtf.. greed is the evil of all rootOriginally posted by aHGer^83:i not anti mlm.. but i agree to wad u say n sad to say, 9 out of 10 mlm-mers dunno wad product they are selling.. even if they do know what they are selling, u ask mor einfo abt the products, non of them know... they will only say " u buy lor... buy n u will know' or "u support xxx n buy lah" that is when u know they know ntng abt the products...
they only want $$$$ and this is wad happend to, for example, *** (now known as **)
then yr friend is not smart... u are much smarterOriginally posted by FBI:even my smart fren.. also kena scammed! wtf.. greed is the evil of all root
WTF! Greed is theROOTof allEVILOriginally posted by FBI:even my smart fren.. also kena scammed! wtf.. greed is the evil of all root
LOL
I also got conned inside..... But my case is that I ownself walk into the lion's den
I ask my friend got job anot cos I holiday, then he say his friend got ask him about this job but since he studying, he didnt take that offer. Then he tell me about this job so a go go join lor......
I never heard of MLM or saleman stuff before, so my getting conned difficulty level was rather easy
At first I thought they are good, treat them like good friends, like 2nd home like that..... until the part when the manager ask me to write the all my friends contact details then a fear start to struck me...... I thought I am going to sell to other people like big coporation, but the fact is I am going to sell to my friends
After a while I think a was thinking too much about it and think it is ok to sell to my friends (I was crazy then)
So I just sms around to ask those close ppl for sales appointment.....
Mentality at this point : MLM is GOOD!!!!! (Obviously after I went through their propaganda training)
After I ran out of close friend to sms.... Time to kick in the phone tactic I learn to ask the not so close friend for appointment.... So I go the phone area to make calls. While finding my contacts, I heard a nearby guy calling. He is doing recruitment, and I heard he said a whole lots of stuff which are not true, obviously lying to get recruits in. Then I start to realised EVERYONE IS USING THE SAME TACTIC to recruit, including their friends......
How can they resort to such unmoral and unethical ways to recruit people? I know after my first sales, I will be able to recruit and I am definetly not going to lie to get people in. So I left......
Mentality at this point : MLM is still good, just that some black sheep company is destroying it using unethical ways
Few weeks later, someone call saying he is from XX group (Tink Tink) and say there is this job offer, mass recruitment for those ppl waiting for o level results. I play on with him and recorded the conversation. He didnt realised I used to be inside and know all the inside stuff. He lied about the pay and keep insisting that he wants to meet me at his company (which is the lion's den)
Mentality of MLM at this point : Fck-CARE!!!!
Hahaha.. This forum is so fun.. You guys just happen to be approach by unprofessional organisations..
Originally posted by Wurq16:Hahaha.. This forum is so fun.. You guys just happen to be approach by unprofessional organisations..
It's also fun to hear people desperately defend their company
What's the point when they have already done all the wrong things?? haha
well, ts, in order to let anyone join a religion... you have to brain wash the person also mah....
Originally posted by simpleboi:Do it part time, so can still have monthly pay..
And no point tricking pple.. in the end wont have stable business coz pple dun like getting tricked.. It's a long term one, not short term....
Just be sincere, ethical and share with ur heart can liao..
I super agree lor......
Come lets list down so ethical ways to show those losers that we HAVE THE RIGHTS to shoot them....
1. I have this job offer for you
2. Spreading market awareness
2. And promoting our company lifestyle products
3. To your friends and relatives
4. Earn your keep if you make successful leads
5. Provide you with training
6. When you are good enough, you can recruit people to help you, just like what I am doing now.
well, ts, in order to let anyone join a religion... you have to brain wash the person also mah....
Not say brain wash. There are actually steps to follow. Just that "these people" apply the wrong technique and make it look like brain washing. If someone is not interested in business, just want to lead a simple life, do you want them in your group?
MLM is not a convincing or persuading business. It's the way how people do it. Like Enyouth, Venture Era and some others, they are obviously doing the wrong things and spoiling the market.
Originally posted by Wurq16:well, ts, in order to let anyone join a religion... you have to brain wash the person also mah....
Not say brain wash. There are actually steps to follow. Just that "these people" apply the wrong technique and make it look like brain washing. If someone is not interested in business, just want to lead a simple life, do you want them in your group?
MLM is not a convincing or persuading business. It's the way how people do it. Like Enyouth, Venture Era and some others, they are obviously doing the wrong things and spoiling the market.
All religions?
What actual steps to follow, that people apply wrong technique that eventually lead to look like brainwashing? Care to share? What it got to do with people wanting a simple life?
MLM is not a convincing or persuading biz? Huh? Meaning, you force people to join?
How people should do it?
I don't convince and persuade. People join me at their own will.
People who just want to lead a simple life, I won't touch them. Because that is what they want. Respect their decision. Never try to change their mindset or criticise their thinking. They usually reluctant to change quadrants.
PM me. And I'll tell you how. :)
Originally posted by Wurq16:I don't convince and persuade. People join me at their own will.
People who just want to lead a simple life, I won't touch them. Because that is what they want. Respect their decision. Never try to change their mindset or criticise their thinking. They usually reluctant to change quadrants.
PM me. And I'll tell you how. :)
if people dont join you, how? No biz like that
Not totally correct. You can still have biz even people dont join you.
Yes, I believe God will provide
No need people
Haha..
What is MLM to you? Recruiting business?
Multi Level Marketing
Originally posted by Wurq16:Haha..
What is MLM to you? Recruiting business?
Isn't the whole point of MLM to get passive income? Isn't that the whole pitch for MLM? That you can earn heaps of money and retire early?
Isn't the only way to earn passive income is to recruit? If you just sell the product, that's not passive income is it?
To sell the product, also need to persuade and convince
One of the key purposes of MLM is to leverage on the power of mass number of people
So, this thing of not a need to convince or persuade anyone is dubious and flawed
Ok.. I see your problems. You dont really have to persuade people to buy. If they dont like it, then it's alright. You just share with them about the product. If they like it, they will buy it. Have you read "The Next Trillion" by Paul Zane Pilzer?
Yes.. You are right. MLM is to leverage on the power of mass number of people. But you don't have to recruit every single one of them. For me.. I just need 6.
Originally posted by Wurq16:Ok.. I see your problems. You dont really have to persuade people to buy. If they dont like it, then it's alright. You just share with them about the product. If they like it, they will buy it. Have you read "The Next Trillion" by Paul Zane Pilzer?
Yes.. You are right. MLM is to leverage on the power of mass number of people. But you don't have to recruit every single one of them. For me.. I just need 6.
Ahh... but it only seems like you just need 6. But you really need many more than that because many drop out.
Assuming that the commission scheme is 4 levels deep and cuts off after that, the problem is you need 6 who are able to recruit and sell. And those 6 need to find 36 who can recruit and sell. And those 36 need to find 216 who are able to recruit and sell.
Let's also not forget that you're not the only one recruiting.
Originally posted by Wurq16:Ok.. I see your problems. You dont really have to persuade people to buy. If they dont like it, then it's alright. You just share with them about the product. If they like it, they will buy it. Have you read "The Next Trillion" by Paul Zane Pilzer?
Yes.. You are right. MLM is to leverage on the power of mass number of people. But you don't have to recruit every single one of them. For me.. I just need 6.
What if they dont like it? What if a great number of people dont like it? What will I eat for the next month? Grass?
You need six, how about your downlines? They need six too, so do their 36 downlines, so do the 216 downlines too... Can this be achieved easily without persuasion and convincing?