empire group alliance, ponzi scam or network marketing?
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I hope u put things into pespective and look @ the big picture. His argument indeed sounds valid and rational and may in any ways inclined towards a pro-MLM point of view. From the way u speak, it is blatantly obvious that u r against MLM irregardless of whether issit a legitimate business anotOriginally posted by Rigante:Well here's a REAL view from a bystander - you are obviously trying to defend SE. If anyone goes back and read your posts (in other threads as well) it is blatant that you are trying to manipulate opinions from a 'neutral' point of view, a commonly used psychological method from other MLM forumnites.
They will come in with a 'neutral view', suggest a few negative things and slowly work their way around to convince that, in actual fact, the 'big picture' is morally acceptable.
Unforunately for you, subtlety is not one of your strengths, and your overwhelming zeal for your company seeps through in some of your posts. Anyone can see that (unless you go back and edit them now, of course
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Do come up with more 'neutral' perspectives that stinks of MLM analogies - very entertaining
Who r u to denigrate him? When there r so forumners here who r anti-MLM, coming up with irrational assumptions to tarnish the reputation of this industry? And when 1 guy here who stands out from the crowd refuting the majority on the side of rationality ,and so anti-MLM ppl like u had to raise a big hoo-ha about it. Go back and think about it -
Its not fighting for abortion rights or petition for press freedomOriginally posted by sniper_xp:I hope u put things into pespective and look @ the big picture. His argument indeed sounds valid and rational and may in any ways inclined towards a pro-MLM point of view. From the way u speak, it is blatantly obvious that u r against MLM irregardless of whether issit a legitimate business anot
Who r u to denigrate him? When there r so forumners here who r anti-MLM, coming up with irrational assumptions to tarnish the reputation of this industry? And when 1 guy here who stands out from the crowd refuting the majority on the side of rationality ,and so anti-MLM ppl like u had to raise a big hoo-ha about it. Go back and think about it
Start to look at MLM from business POV
If the masses who are potential consumers decided that MLM is crap, stop fighting for it as if they are obliged to entertain you. Start thinking about how to attract customers and how to repair the already damaged reputation!
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i think you get everything wrong.Originally posted by sniper_xp:I hope u put things into pespective and look @ the big picture. His argument indeed sounds valid and rational and may in any ways inclined towards a pro-MLM point of view. From the way u speak, it is blatantly obvious that u r against MLM irregardless of whether issit a legitimate business anot
Who r u to denigrate him? When there r so forumners here who r anti-MLM, coming up with irrational assumptions to tarnish the reputation of this industry? And when 1 guy here who stands out from the crowd refuting the majority on the side of rationality ,and so anti-MLM ppl like u had to raise a big hoo-ha about it. Go back and think about it
i'm PRO-MLM
but i'm ANTI-PONZI SCAM, and that is SUNSHINE EMPIRE.
now do you understand my simple singlish.
or yah.. in the first place do you know what is PONZI SCAM?? -
Well, finally I understand why you are still in here answering and answering, replying and reply all these while.Originally posted by laurence82:Its not fighting for abortion rights or petition for press freedom
Start to look at MLM from business POV
If the masses who are potential consumers decided that MLM is crap, stop fighting for it as if they are obliged to entertain you. Start thinking about how to attract customers and how to repair the already damaged reputation!
Sheesh
You have nothing in life to fight for. Thats why you are just like any other normal person on the streets.
When everyone in the world doesnt use the computer, Bill Gates believe otherwise.
'If the masses who are potential consumers decided that MLM(computer) is crap, stop fighting for it as if they are obliged to entertain you.'
Sigh Sigh. Cant you see they are trying to repair the already damaged reputation?
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would u like to address the issue of many ppl falling prey to hard-selling tactics of some unethical agents? how can legitimate mlm companies improve this situation? i personally have fallen prey to such tactics.Originally posted by azh86:Well, finally I understand why you are still in here answering and answering, replying and reply all these while.
You have nothing in life to fight for. Thats why you are just like any other normal person on the streets.
When everyone in the world doesnt use the computer, Bill Gates believe otherwise.
'If the masses who are potential consumers decided that MLM(computer) is crap, stop fighting for it as if they are obliged to entertain you.'
Sigh Sigh. Cant you see they are trying to repair the already damaged reputation?
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The MLM industry will never have its reputation repaired if its members concentrate on attacking opposition personally, instead of convincing the masses that it will workOriginally posted by azh86:Well, finally I understand why you are still in here answering and answering, replying and reply all these while.
You have nothing in life to fight for. Thats why you are just like any other normal person on the streets.
When everyone in the world doesnt use the computer, Bill Gates believe otherwise.
'If the masses who are potential consumers decided that MLM(computer) is crap, stop fighting for it as if they are obliged to entertain you.'
Sigh Sigh. Cant you see they are trying to repair the already damaged reputation?
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If u have fallen prey to whatever tactic.. just shows tat ur got a weak mind.Originally posted by brokenluv:would u like to address the issue of many ppl falling prey to hard-selling tactics of some unethical agents? how can legitimate mlm companies improve this situation? i personally have fallen prey to such tactics. -
yah yah okay im weak. so u r okay with those ppl that got no problem using hardselling tactic la?Originally posted by emcom:If u have fallen prey to whatever tactic.. just shows tat ur got a weak mind. -
do u realise he is providing justifications for scams?Originally posted by brokenluv:yah yah okay im weak. so u r okay with those ppl that got no problem using hardselling tactic la?
the school bullies bully the weak not because they are morally wrong, but because there is a presence of the weak
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Strangely it still happens. They wanna "promote" their own company, and is constantly shooting back people, debating. And ultimately, ironically reflects back on how bad the ethics of the company is, or if there is any in the first place.Originally posted by laurence82:The MLM industry will never have its reputation repaired if its members concentrate on attacking opposition personally, instead of convincing the masses that it will work -
go back and read his posts and then come back to meOriginally posted by sniper_xp:I hope u put things into pespective and look @ the big picture. His argument indeed sounds valid and rational and may in any ways inclined towards a pro-MLM point of view. From the way u speak, it is blatantly obvious that u r against MLM irregardless of whether issit a legitimate business anot
Who r u to denigrate him? When there r so forumners here who r anti-MLM, coming up with irrational assumptions to tarnish the reputation of this industry? And when 1 guy here who stands out from the crowd refuting the majority on the side of rationality ,and so anti-MLM ppl like u had to raise a big hoo-ha about it. Go back and think about it
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I want them to give us proof that mlm can and will work for the majority. Boasting 10K monthly income, huge cars, etc. Sure. Give me the statistics to prove it. Or are the chances of making it big very low?Originally posted by sniper_xp:I hope u put things into pespective and look @ the big picture. His argument indeed sounds valid and rational and may in any ways inclined towards a pro-MLM point of view. From the way u speak, it is blatantly obvious that u r against MLM irregardless of whether issit a legitimate business anot
Who r u to denigrate him? When there r so forumners here who r anti-MLM, coming up with irrational assumptions to tarnish the reputation of this industry? And when 1 guy here who stands out from the crowd refuting the majority on the side of rationality ,and so anti-MLM ppl like u had to raise a big hoo-ha about it. Go back and think about it
Like artists can sell paintings for USD50M, or actors/actresses earning millions. But they are at the same time painters / ametuer actors struggling to make a living.
And about the issue of tricking people down to seminars, lying about products and overpricing. Almost 20 dollars for toothpaste, etc. Please address it.
SE, please show where Sunshine pumps its money from "merchants" to and gets its returns from. It seems none of the 'property projects' had taken off yet. -
Actually it is true. Why do they need so much cash for ? They have done nothing tat earns money yet. How do they return tis money all tis while if everything seems to be pending ? If their business plans r so good, why don't they borrow from banks who have a lower interest rate ?
I also checked their emcall services. However it is not a new thing
Tis is called callback services and I think even sunpage provide tis services as well.