Anti-MLM come here please
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I think a retard like you needs to resort to flaming to evade questionsOriginally posted by enquiries:i think you are simply too stupid to know that there is really a book called "network marketing for dummies".
it shows how much the anti-mlmer really know about whats happening around them. 
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MLM-ers are walking puppets/robotsOriginally posted by Trump_Card:I think a retard like you needs to resort to flaming to evade questions 
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iaintmad.... u gota get a cert for urself....
tell ur friend he is crazy he will regret....
so u see not everyone company preach the same thing....
Cert useless.... Work no use..... although i agree BASIC PAY covers BASIC NEEDS.... Left Hand in Right hand OUT....
Imagine i am working and ppl convince me that WORKING is crap... muz full time MLM... then i will say MLM is crap....
Juz to share wif u... when i joined my MLM i juz lost my job... Normal MLM will be more than happy to get u in fulltime... but my side different... they infact ask me to get a job juz take MLM part-time.... because first 6 mths income might not be able to substain....
ASK ALL YOURSELF..... NO MLM COMPANY WILL ASK PPL TO GO GET JOB AND WORK PART-TIME MLM....... AND ALLOW YOU TO SEE THE OUTSIDE WORLD....
MOST MLM COMPANY WILL CONTROL YOU AND NEGATIVE YOU ON THE OUTSIDE WORLD....SO THAT U WILL ONLY THINK TOWARDS THEIR ANGLE SO WHEN U CANNOT MAKE IT U ARE A LOSER........... EXTREMIST!!!!
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seriously.
i have no comments about what AVG have said.
BUT.
i do have doubts about enquiries have mentioned so far.
because he keeps on pushing people to convince him why MLM cant work by facts and figures.
when he himself cant furnish why MLM can work by facts and figures himself.
i know. it takes one to see for themselves than just lookin at facts and figures,
BUT.
if the only purpose of opening this bloody thread is just to combine all anti-MLMers here to talk crap with you.
then i dont see any purpose WHY.
you are opening this thread. you could've better things to do dealing with your MLM.
it takes two hands to clap, not just you teasing people and pushing them down just because they cant prove you wrong, because you cant seem to prove them right either.
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Read ST, page 3 today, 24 Oct 2007.
www.sunshine-empire.com
Thanks you for starting this topic, it is very impt that Singaporeans are aware of the scams in the market. I believe the biggest will be Sunshine Empire. They mange to gte $400m of $$ of from innocent people who belive is making quick bucks by investing $12k in James Phang, who claimed to be better than Warren Buffett. Further, he claims that before he starts his presentation, all his supports will shout "FATHER, I LOVE YOU"
May be all his supporters should shout " Fxxker, give me back my Money"
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This is bad ... I think the MLM agents will use this particular newspaper article in their future 'interviews' with their victims ...
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I agree.Originally posted by Trump_Card:This is bad ... I think the MLM agents will use this particular newspaper article in their future 'interviews' with their victims ...
See this blog, they claim it to their advantage. I just cannot understand why it is so difficult for people to understand that they are being conned.
http://rexleecorner.biz/sunshine-empire-is-on-straitstimes-wednesday-24-october-2007/#respond -
This is a sunshine empire supporter (or may be it is james phang's blog)?
http://rexleecorner.biz/category/emcom-beyond/
Dear members,
We are in the news again, Straits Time Wednesday. See the preview at www.straitstimes.com. It is a very neutral report. Please be prepared & look at the positive side. They CANNOT confirm us as an investment company, which we are NOT.
There is another half page of Sunshine at H26 about Sunshine VillaÂ…ItÂ’s a must buy news paper..^o^..
Will scare a copy and upload at my blog later.
Enjoy reading..^_^..
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Oct 23, 2007 , http://www.straitstimes.com/
Multi-level marketing firm placed on MAS alert list
The concern is that its business model works like a pure financial investment scheme
By Lorna Tan
THE authorities in Singapore and Malaysia have put out an alert on a firm operating in several Asian countries including Singapore.
The Straits Times understands that the Commercial Affairs Department is investigating the firm's practices.
Based at Toa Payoh HDB Hub, home-grown Sunshine Empire, a multi-level marketing (MLM) firm, has attracted 20,000 people here since it was set up last July.
MLM firms, which are legal here, typically invite people to pay cash for the right to market goods to other people. They also get cash for recruiting other MLM marketers.
Under Sunshine's scheme, people usually put down $12,000 to become a 'merchant', as it calls users of its online shopping platform offering thousands of goods, including health supplements, lingerie and electronics goods.
After signing up, they can buy Sunshine's online goods.
But they are also rewarded with potentially hefty cash rebates, though these are not guaranteed. Merchants can build their own sales force as well.
The scheme is structured in such a way that participants are not required to use the rebates to buy Sunshine's goods.
The cash rebates are based on Sunshine's global turnover. The option of converting the rebates into cash only makes Sunshine more attractive than other MLM firms where people must maintain sales quotas.
But this is understood to be the nub of the concerns held by the authorities over Sunshine's business practices.
The fact that its 'merchants' can notch up what seem like profits without ever buying or selling products means its business model looks like a pure financial investment scheme.
Sunshine was placed on the Monetary Authority of Singapore's (MAS) investor alert list last month and that of Malaysia's Securities Commission a few months ago.
The regularly updated MAS list warns people of companies which may be offering products regulated by MAS without authority.
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i think you are the one that are evading the question, obviously embarassed by your ignorant that you dont know a book called "network marketing for DUMMIES" and try to act smart.... end up become a clown and a joke.Originally posted by Trump_Card:I think a retard like you needs to resort to flaming to evade questions
and when you are lost of words... complain and whine like a kid that i bully you and flame you. -
definitely!Originally posted by Trump_Card:This is bad ... I think the MLM agents will use this particular newspaper article in their future 'interviews' with their victims ...
this is to make sure that people know what is network marketing and what is ponzi scam.
otherwise, there will be a need to print out more books "network marketing for dummies" for people to read. -
Please brush up your bloody english for goodness' sake la ... If you don't want to have discussions , you might as well not open this thread ... Asking you some questions is like a taboo , evoking you to flameOriginally posted by enquiries:i think you are the one that are evading the question, obviously embarassed by your ignorant that you dont know a book called "network marketing for DUMMIES" and try to act smart.... end up become a clown and a joke.
and when you are lost of words... complain and whine like a kid that i bully you and flame you.
Anyways I appreciate the fact that some MLMers have made some sound arguments here ... You're the exceptional one , telling people to read up books etc ... Why don't you google for the answer instead of opening a thread to ask anti-MLMers why MLM doesn't work ? So what if there's a book called Network marketing for DUMMIES ? I can tell you there are some sites that states fallacies of MLM -
I thought this is to brainwash ppl into thinking that's another SE's accolade ? Is that not the agenda ?Originally posted by enquiries:definitely!
this is to make sure that people know what is network marketing and what is ponzi scam.
otherwise, there will be a need to print out more books "network marketing for dummies" for people to read. -
Make sure that people know what is network marketing is ponzi scam/ pyramid scam. Books for network marketing are used to confuse ppl that network marketing is different from pyramid scams. Useless to insist that i know nothing about MLM just to divert attention. Only ppl who do not have courage to leave such scams try hard to defend pyramid scam online.Originally posted by enquiries:definitely!
this is to make sure that people know what is network marketing and what is ponzi scam.
otherwise, there will be a need to print out more books "network marketing for dummies" for people to read.
Printing network marketing books are wasting natural resource such as trees. Any tom dick or harry can write network marketing books. Even ppl from woodbridge hospital can also write books on mlm.
Mlmers who keep insist on doing mlm are being looked down as they are hopeless & stupid. Look at what type of ppl insist on doing mlm. They are usually unemployed, ppl who are being condem at work place , have no courage to start own biz and ppl who refuse to upgrade themselves. Enquiries,the longer you stay here to defend network marketing, the more you are being look down.
Up till now, i only heard mlmers go into debt. Some even go on their knees & beg friends or relatives to lend them money for the scam. Not a single mlmers is on newspaper article as successful icon. Successful icon are mostly successful business owners & employee. -
Originally posted by Trump_Card:Please brush up your bloody english for goodness' sake la ... If you don't want to have discussions , you might as well not open this thread ... Asking you some questions is like a taboo , evoking you to flame
Anyways I appreciate the fact that some MLMers have made some sound arguments here ... You're the exceptional one , telling people to read up books etc ... Why don't you google for the answer instead of opening a thread to ask anti-MLMers why MLM doesn't work ? So what if there's a book called Network marketing for DUMMIES ? I can tell you there are some sites that states fallacies of MLM
asking you to read up because you are so ignorant until no point talking to you.
so what there is a book called network marketing for dummies? it means for dummies that still dont want to read and yet prefer to be DUMMIES.
some sites that states fallacies of MLM? please lah... this show how naive you are. how about i come out with a website that glorified DUMMIES and why DUMMIES are smarter than other people? -
Show me ...Originally posted by enquiries:how about i come out with a website that glorified DUMMIES and why DUMMIES are smarter than other people? -
another own personal assumption and poor analysis of data.Originally posted by RachelX:Make sure that people know what is network marketing is ponzi scam/ pyramid scam. Books for network marketing are used to confuse ppl that network marketing is different from pyramid scams. Useless to insist that i know nothing about MLM just to divert attention. Only ppl who do not have courage to leave such scams try hard to defend pyramid scam online.
Printing network marketing books are wasting natural resource such as trees. Any tom dick or harry can write network marketing books. Even ppl from woodbridge hospital can also write books on mlm.
Mlmers who keep insist on doing mlm are being looked down as they are hopeless & stupid. Look at what type of ppl insist on doing mlm. They are usually unemployed, ppl who are being condem at work place , have no courage to start own biz and ppl who refuse to upgrade themselves. Enquiries,the longer you stay here to defend network marketing, the more you are being look down.
Up till now, i only heard mlmers go into debt. Some even go on their knees & beg friends or relatives to lend them money for the scam. Not a single mlmers is on newspaper article as successful icon. Successful icon are mostly successful business owners & employee.
if books are print to confuse people... then i really have to salute you.
woodbridge can write MLM book? please find one for us.
please la.. can you show better standard please? -
Apparently you have no standard as well. Evading questions, etcOriginally posted by enquiries:another own personal assumption and poor analysis of data.
if books are print to confuse people... then i really have to salute you.
woodbridge can write MLM book? please find one for us.
please la.. can you show better standard please? -
this is the webby, please help to promote and create awareness that dummies are smarter.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Show me ...
DUMMIES ARE SMARTER because they can do what most people cant do,
and that is to be DUMB and STUPID.
Cheers !
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evading question?Originally posted by redstone:Apparently you have no standard as well. Evading questions, etc
how about i ask you when is the last time you embarass yourself, when is the last time you look at porno website and being caught?
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Last time I embarassed myself was today, when I forgot my lines during presentation.Originally posted by enquiries:evading question?
how about i ask you when is the last time you embarass yourself, when is the last time you look at porno website and being caught?
do you mind telling us? if not, i will go around telling people you are evading question.
Porno? I don't watch porn or lie like some people here.
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A few mths back, I used to respect u cos' u seemed different frm the steoreotypical brainless MLM young punk, calmly explaining ur company's policies and queries of others.Originally posted by enquiries:
well said !
we understand what kind of person you are.
Now, I realise tt u're a bigger idiot than all of them combined. If u can't even take the heat and criticism of ur company in ur own stride (fer those interested, pls refer to VE threads), wad's tt all abt doing ur own 'business' and support ur own 'entrepreneurship'?
Now, u've resorted to childish insults and degrading defamatory remarks. Is tt true entrepreneurship n business ethics? True entrepreneurship is taking things in ur own stride, despite the criticism and unbelief of the others, while constantly improving urself and finally proving the world wrong. All millionaires go thru tis stage some point in their life. Bill Gates, whom u guys like to quote ALOT, is definitely one of them.
So, I agree wif the rest. Instead of sitting behind ur com n wasting time to set up tis useless thread to evoke other people's hate towards u (and intensify and further justify our hate fer MLM), u shld be busy out in the marketplace trying ur best to prove us wrong, by raking up sales by ethical means and getting ur company listed etc.
U can continue being a blardy retard over here. I'm more than happy to keep u entertained. Besides, u haf to reply dozens of other ppl's posts, whereas I only haf to reply to ur posts. Tink abt the opportunity cost of time wasted.
And since our resident anti-MLM redstone has answered ur qn promptly n adequately abt the issue of evading qns, it's time fer us to volley the qn back to u. Mind telling us the median of ur monthly income fer ur MLM stint?
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Shame of you resorted to childish insults and degrading defamatory remarks.Originally posted by enquiries:another own personal assumption and poor analysis of data.
if books are print to confuse people... then i really have to salute you.
please la.. can you show better standard please?
Trying to hide facts wouldn't work. Unable to answer back then tell us. Dont have to use useless techniques by telling ppl they no standard. Everyone know you are trying to evade questions.
"another own personal assumption and poor analysis of data?" ---only brainless ppl resort to childish insults defamatory remarks. Show me you mean monthly mlm income. Don't show means you are proving us right----MLM can't earn more than employees. Don' need to hide the truth!
If you yourself no standard, then dont say other ppl no standard.
Enquiries, you have the poorest standard in human history!!!!----Not that i look down on mlmers.
I suggest that you should give up on mlm. You should take up the courage to leave mlm. Wasting time defending mlm here dont get you anywhere. We know that you got hard time recruit ppl to your mlm, that why you are trying so hard to defend. When ppl reject join your mlm company, you should know that they either aware mlm is a scam or they look down on you.
No ex-mlmers regret leaving mlm to start fresh in working society or business world. All ex-mlmers leaving mlm are improving since starting fresh outside mlm.
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Anytime! I am constantly googling for some articles that are not so bad, keke. Thank you for covering for me too against MLMer's critique.Originally posted by redstone:Great website! Thanks for sharing!
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I hate inethical people... Legal doesn't mean ethical.Originally posted by Anco:Anytime! I am constantly googling for some articles that are not so bad, keke. Thank you for covering for me too against MLMer's critique.