Avita
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You ppl see, Avita is trying to hide the truth of FGN of their evil deeds. By claiming that blogger from sgforum cry after failing biz only show that Avita is still dishonest. Only because we succeed to a certain position, we then know a lot of truth on FGN on their evil did. How can one who have not succeed in Bel'air able to know their secrets deeply. Many of us do succeed in the biz but opt out due to our conscious, not because we fail. Some of us here are even marquis(Bel'air shareholder), which proven our success in the biz previously.Originally posted by TIB744U:Latest news on AVITA.
According to this website, Avita Singapore has begun operations.
http://theingi.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!D80A441FEE614276!408.entry
Inauguration ceremony was held at me workplace. But I didnt work that day so I dont know what happened. I should have, it was on 10th August 2007.
Everything you want to know about Bel'Air or Avita is inside, because this belongs to a Bel'Air, Avita member or whatever..
And he/she whatever has openly criticised you guys in criticising them. (:
CHEERS.
About transistion fee for converting from Bel'air to Avita, its too expensive you only got little stocks left. Not worth converting. For those who cut 1+5, i think its better to convert if still have more than 1 full invoice of stocks left.
For scental, it better for them not to speak up for FGN, or it only shows that they are as notorious as FGN. We would'nt hold anything against them only if them don't interfere. Scental should have known of the evil did of FGN. Trying to shield FGN would'nt help them. FGN should openly apologise to their victims thru any tv media of their evil deeds if they want to revamp. Also they must allow public to view their biz & marketing plan without hiding anything(show that they no longer scam ppl). Last but not list, FGN must compensate their victims what they scam from them(not a single cent less than what they scam). This is the only way FGN can be revamp else they will do to their worst. -
hey all dudes..., i want to know new marketing plan for Avita....
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hey .... avita business plan is how will be pv 1:1 ,, they r not shame....
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All in sg dollars, ha ha ha!Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:hey .... avita business plan is how will be pv 1:1 ,, they r not shame.... -
Ohhh.. is really..... for count pv is 12000 and they give only 12000 S$.. r u sure...
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Aiya I want to go there KPO... But there are people there I know
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If you buy up directly to the Count equivalent, it will be less than S$12,000.
Hope you don't mind me asking, why are you thinking of buying so much goods?Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:Ohhh.. is really..... for count pv is 12000 and they give only 12000 S$.. r u sure... -
Originally posted by net_trekker:If you buy up directly to the Count equivalent, it will be less than S$12,000.
Hope you don't mind me asking, why are you thinking of buying so much goods? -
Watever he/she can put in the blog... the truth is the truth!!!! What FGN ( I don't think they dare to use the name anymore) do is simply evil. there no hiding watever. Simple going around telling people that the biz is very good is just rubbish....Originally posted by TIB744U:Latest news on AVITA.
According to this website, Avita Singapore has begun operations.
http://theingi.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!D80A441FEE614276!408.entry
Inauguration ceremony was held at me workplace. But I didnt work that day so I dont know what happened. I should have, it was on 10th August 2007.
Everything you want to know about Bel'Air or Avita is inside, because this belongs to a Bel'Air, Avita member or whatever..
And he/she whatever has openly criticised you guys in criticising them. (:
CHEERS.
Basically those remain in FGN are useless people not as great as they have been telling people or new friend.. ONG KAY YANG... Civil Engineering haha.. 2 years without working experience.. if leave the biz, go out also eat shit.. Same as Tan Boon Hui computer engineering worse. think all his skill are out dated... the biz won't last long.... -
i think , at myanmar... they will not give 100% commission 
for count they calculate only for 9000 pv 
and they said if count join them fees is 95 lakh nearly s$ 9000 and 157 lakh nearly s$ 14000.... as they wish.. 
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Before you even pay a single cent, please ask yourself, why are you considering buying a Count stock?
If the reason is that are holding some consumer event with at least hundreds of participants, all of them potential customers to buy from you ON THE SPOT ON THE SAME DAY, then yes, it makes some business sense in getting a sizable amount of products to meet the potential demand. If you don't have a large scale event to close on the spot sales and if you will only be selling your goods slowly bit by bit, why would you need so much products in your hands? In many cases, you can even take orders first, then get them from company.
If your reason for buying Count is so that you take up a "business position", to attract other people to buy Count under you, then you are going down the same path as what created all the unhappiness discussed in this forum. I would strongly urge you to think twice before letting go of your money and risking your relationships with your friends/family.Originally posted by 666 SaTaN: i think , at myanmar... they will not give 100% commission for count they calculate only for 9000 pv and they said if count join them fees is 95 lakh nearly s$ 9000 and 157 lakh nearly s$ 14000.... as they wish.. -
Ommm! at here myanmar, only reason is u can get money first, they said..
and now all of us are going to deeply debt.. i need to know that for cutting count is $12000 and calculate for commision is calculate by $12000 or pv12000 or pv 9000.... -
9k PV for direct buy up. depends on what prodcuts you buy, it may be less than S$9k. Commission based on PV.
Please, don't get into this business for this kind of fast money. You are about to destroy your relationship with your friends, ruin their lives, making them all go into deep debts! Is it really worth it?
If you are asking this kind of questions, I think it means the damages are not done yet. Stop right there! If you are already in debts because you cut Count, please return all your goods for refund!
There are other proper ways of getting longer term steady income doing this business. It shouldn't require any of you to get into deep debts! If you don't have enough money, technically you can still start doing legitimate business with just the membership fees $60, with the help of your upline, chalk up sales volume to climb the ranks, and build your network.
Looks like leopards really will never change their spots. The same group of people are going to destroy Avita!Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:Ommm! at here myanmar, only reason is u can get money first, they said.. and now all of us are going to deeply debt.. i need to know that for cutting count is $12000 and calculate for commision is calculate by $12000 or pv12000 or pv 9000.... -
It can't be only 9000pv, they are too dishonest to even cheat in pv. The biz can't be done. Even you can get ppl inyo your biz, they surely force you to invest more $, so as to keep you in the biz. If not they are not able to sustain their biz.Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:Ommm! at here myanmar, only reason is u can get money first, they said.. and now all of us are going to deeply debt.. i need to know that for cutting count is $12000 and calculate for commision is calculate by $12000 or pv12000 or pv 9000....
Believe that ppl from FGN, Bel'Air & Avita who still doing the biz often claim that:
1) working for others is not for them, some even yell and cry out not able to succeed in work place
Coz: they are either very lousy at work or incapable of working. Will capable employee say working is not for them? Many ppl working for ppl can easily own better cars than what they have.
2)difficult to start up traditional biz due to competion & high rentals
Coz: they do not have courage to start a decent biz, so depend scam $$$ to earn a living.If traditional biz is so difficult, why is there still so many new start up & most of them earn many times more compare to mlm?
3)doing well traditional biz, especially cable biz. But give up still profitable biz for Avita/Bel'Air.
Coz: either afraid of competion or not doing well in biz, or even biz collapes.
Will any biz owner give up still profitable biz, especially copper wire price keep rising, thus more profitable?Why don keep still profitable biz while do mlm, have both sides of income? Better right?
4) doing well in biz in Bel'Air, Avita.
Then:why can't afford high rental in Hiap Huat Hse, Save cost?,Unable to afford rental.Even have their meals in hawker and not restaurant? Cheap, cheap cheap, save, save,save---poor person's mindset
5) Nowadays, hard to find jobs.
Cos: Some of them are either no courage to try to look for jobs after few attempt of job hunt fails or afraid of the slightest hardship require to face in working society.Then why are there so many jobs vacancy in classified?Maybe they not qualify for those job due to lack of working experience.
Do you imagine how many times they yell aloud on stage claiming their failure in working for other & failure in traditional biz. Always putting blame on their superior & bosses for their failure & claim that how tough is to work for others. They don even know they had put themselves into extreme shame!
----Not that i really want to look down on them.
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It is 9000PV if you buy up straight from Franchisee (VIP in Avita). 12000 if you accumulate slowly all the way there. It is cheaper than Bel Air Count, but still I don't think anyone should go that way, unless you have a really solid plan to sell off those goods, which most people wouldn't have.Originally posted by RachelX:It can't be only 9000pv, they are too dishonest to even cheat in pv. The biz can't be done. Even you can get ppl inyo your biz, they surely force you to invest more $, so as to keep you in the biz. If not they are not able to sustain their biz.
Totally agree that this is not the way to do this business. Hope Mr 666 from Myanmar will wisen up and leave that group he is in before it is too late.
However, I have to say that there are really proper ways of doing this business, but it takes plenty of hard work and certainly no quick bucks to earn in the short run, definitely cannot be described as an easier path than doing a job as an employee in any company/organisation.
For those people whom Rachel described, complain about how hard it is to work for other people, complain that traditional business is too difficult to do, ... these people probably will never succeed in doing anything at all in their lives, unless they change their mindsets and really improve themselves. They can hide behind a "business" to cheat other people's money, manipulate other people's emotions, but like most criminals they can't hide for long. This world isn't exactly a fair place unfortunately, so some may still get away with it for the rest of their lives.
This business is not for everyone, just like certain professions or certain traditional businesses are just not suitable for anyone. I totally agree with Rachel that some of us will earn very good money, and most important of all be much happier, just being a successful employee. Same goes for successful traditional businesses.
Rachel, have you already crossed over to Avita? You do sound like you have been through a hell lot in Bel Air. -
I dont understand why must start from Count? Can't you all do it from where you are comfortable at? Who state a rule that you have to buy Count, why can't you start at F or B? Then work your way up, this way your foundation will be stronger than any buy-up M. If you guys are still going that route, history is going to repeat again.. Time to wake up man!Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:Ommm! at here myanmar, only reason is u can get money first, they said.. and now all of us are going to deeply debt.. i need to know that for cutting count is $12000 and calculate for commision is calculate by $12000 or pv12000 or pv 9000....
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now , at our country....... Admin Group force to change avita..... and they want money from asso: anyhow..... they said if we want to change avita , we must give them 80000 kyats nearly s$100.... and they said ......
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Exactly!!! If you can really sell the products, there's really no diff whether you start even from Member, get goods from upline first, earn diff between member and retail price, then slowly work your way up the ranks! That's only $60 to begin doing a legitimate business!Originally posted by primalscream: I dont understand why must start from Count? Can't you all do it from where you are comfortable at? Who state a rule that you have to buy Count, why can't you start at F or B? Then work your way up, this way your foundation will be stronger than any buy-up M. If you guys are still going that route, history is going to repeat again.. Time to wake up man!
A Count/Marquis who gets there from this slow process will likely to have a very strong foundation, with real customers, real sales volume, and real long term residual passive income!
Mr 666 Satan, if anyone is forcing you to do anything, please leave the group! Go find another leader, another different MLM company, or whoever who can help you build a real business. -
Instead of doing mlm, you can opt for selling cheap stuff online. MLM goods will be lot more difficult to sell as they are already excessively over price. You can go to search for much cheaper & better stuff to sell on yahoo auction. I think it is better to leave the group as they might try hard to dig your pocket of $$$. Best to return goods if you have already invest. It is very much easiler to earn extra income elsewhere.Originally posted by net_trekker:Exactly!!! If you can really sell the products, there's really no diff whether you start even from Member, get goods from upline first, earn diff between member and retail price, then slowly work your way up the ranks! That's only $60 to begin doing a legitimate business!
A Count/Marquis who gets there from this slow process will likely to have a very strong foundation, with real customers, real sales volume, and real long term residual passive income!
Mr 666 Satan, if anyone is forcing you to do anything, please leave the group! Go find another leader, another different MLM company, or whoever who can help you build a real business. -
Hi Mr 666.... Even is singapore the same thing is happening, Marquis of those who cut 1+5 of Bel'Air must pay $$$ to remain as the position in Avita!!!! think $500.Originally posted by 666 SaTaN:now , at our country....... Admin Group force to change avita..... and they want money from asso: anyhow..... they said if we want to change avita , we must give them 80000 kyats nearly s$100.... and they said ......
This is stupid man!!! People at Bel'air are not making $$$, it is just to make people throw in more $$$ so company can rid off another amount..
Image this: a network of 20 people leave Bel'Air, now Avita ask them to come back $500 each is equal to $10,000 lor!!!!
We need your help to spread the truth in Myanmar to stop this company from destroying more people life...
Share with them is forum and also Bel'Air link...
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Rachel, can you explain why you think it is only worth converting if you have more than 1 full invoice of stock left?Originally posted by RachelX:About transistion fee for converting from Bel'air to Avita, its too expensive you only got little stocks left. Not worth converting. For those who cut 1+5, i think its better to convert if still have more than 1 full invoice of stocks left.
Actually I feel that whether you have a lot or very little stocks doesn't make any difference to the decision of whether to convert at all.
Hope you can share your views and ideas on this. I believe it will benefit a lot of people who are stuck with Bel Air stocks. -
Its too late to convert as the date due was 30 Aug. Can still try see if they still accept. Those who already convert their goods can sell Avita goods instead of Bel'Air's. Avita goods are cheaper & easiler to sell. Thus, easiler to clear stock. As for Bel'Air stocks, only left over essential oil which are not in demand. I don't know how long Bel'Air can hold on, their goods don't know store how long.Originally posted by net_trekker:Rachel, can you explain why you think it is only worth converting if you have more than 1 full invoice of stock left?
Actually I feel that whether you have a lot or very little stocks doesn't make any difference to the decision of whether to convert at all.
Hope you can share your views and ideas on this. I believe it will benefit a lot of people who are stuck with Bel Air stocks.
Btw, those who have only little Bel'Air stocks left still need to pay sg$500 if converting. I don't think they accept any Bel'Air stocks which are already drawn out.
The easilest way to solve your debts is thru part-time jobs or do some OT since you will got no worry about sales.You can still auction your stocks online, who knows ther are ppl willing to buy you stuff. -
Nope, not too late. 31 Aug is the last day, technically there's still half a day from the time I write this post. Plus I got this gut feel that it may be extended by a bit ...Originally posted by RachelX:Its too late to convert as the date due was 30 Aug. Can still try see if they still accept. Those who already convert their goods can sell Avita goods instead of Bel'Air's. Avita goods are cheaper & easiler to sell. Thus, easiler to clear stock. As for Bel'Air stocks, only left over essential oil which are not in demand. I don't know how long Bel'Air can hold on, their goods don't know store how long.
Btw, those who have only little Bel'Air stocks left still need to pay sg$500 if converting. I don't think they accept any Bel'Air stocks which are already drawn out.
The easilest way to solve your debts is thru part-time jobs or do some OT since you will got no worry about sales.You can still auction your stocks online, who knows ther are ppl willing to buy you stuff.
Anyway, that's for Singapore. Distributors from other countries have longer deadlines, so your info still valuable.
BTW, you can't convert your Bel Air goods to Avita goods from the company, only can exchange with other distributors who are willing to do so. Unless you know of any other ways, which will be very useful to share with the rest of us. -
hi all,
I've just joined ur group to share u the truths............
Mr. 666 is correct. they are asking 80K Kyat for transforming from BA to Avita in Myanmar.
The problem is we have very big pile of BA products.
What the f**k we r going to go with these?
Can the company buy back?
Does anybody need to take shower with BA EOs?????????
Cheaters from BA are now in Avita !!!!!!!!!!!! Be ware.
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You ppl can return goods back to the company no matter how long you have join the company. If company dont except, can sue them. In singapore mlm law, no matter how long you join, you can still return goods.Before returning goods, you can go to CASE web page to print out mlm laws. There are alredy many ppl whose stocks are more than 1 years, still can return goods. Of course you can only get back 30% return of the value of the goods.Originally posted by winnie_win:hi all,
I've just joined ur group to share u the truths............
Mr. 666 is correct. they are asking 80K Kyat for transforming from BA to Avita in Myanmar.
The problem is we have very big pile of BA products.
What the f**k we r going to go with these?
Can the company buy back?
Does anybody need to take shower with BA EOs?????????
Cheaters from BA are now in Avita !!!!!!!!!!!! Be ware.
cheers...[/quote]
For ppl who are in Avita, go return your goods as soon as possible before its too late. Don't think that you can earn $$$ in Avita. Quit Avita as soon as possible. PPL doing Avita are mostly in debt. Get out of AVita & Bel'Air, you can slowly get out of debt.