CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA
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of cuz man. hahaas. SGFORUMS is a place that let us ppl say out our comments abt the revelant topic. so WHO ARE YOU to say others waste server place? YAWNS. another retarded that think highly of himself. so pathetic that singapore have such citizen. tsktskOriginally posted by laurence82:do you have anything more to add?
coz someone need the space to prove whether the agent earns or not
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freedom of speech comes with responsibility
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hahas. so what do you think that is wrong in my first reply? and even many others reply which you keep repeatly ur same old sentence?. are you de moderater-to-be? lols. you can reply abt others comments BUT why did you say they are wasting the space? and think yours isn't huh? anyways, I GIF YOU WIN LAH. make you HAPPY OK?. i dont wan to see a new case that a man died in front of computer bcuz of high blood pressure on the news tml. i shhh le. happy le hoh boi?. (:
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mhcampboy, you really got pwnd this time. the baseline 5 series cost around 190k, topline no more than 270k.Originally posted by mhcampboy:wow!! 5 series cost nearly 400k...
bargain bargain got more than 50% discount!??
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look jonzibonzi, you dun have to lie about the "new 5 series" because you already stated it is an COE 5 Series that cost an astounding 177k.Originally posted by jonzibonzi:5 series after you bargain is 178k for my friends one
Anyway prove the income already, you will say this income will drop,
its by scam that he earn it,
his downline all share to pay his income tax
what else?..
not born to believe success will always be a failure
mind my eng i'm a chinese bicycle.. haha
so which is which? your credibility stands at -1. -
bye to u thenOriginally posted by ah_sam:hahas. so what do you think that is wrong in my first reply? and even many others reply which you keep repeatly ur same old sentence?. are you de moderater-to-be? lols. you can reply abt others comments BUT why did you say they are wasting the space? and think yours isn't huh? anyways, I GIF YOU WIN LAH. make you HAPPY OK?. i dont wan to see a new case that a man died in front of computer bcuz of high blood pressure on the news tml. i shhh le. happy le hoh boi?. (:
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his credibility stands at way below zero when we discovered he has already participated in the scheme, yet he kept going on about wanting to find out more before joining in the schemeOriginally posted by Deportivo:look jonzibonzi, you dun have to lie about the "new 5 series" because you already stated it is an COE 5 Series that cost an astounding 177k.
so which is which? your credibility stands at -1.
the usual inconsistent facts to confuse the others -
BYEBYE.!! THANKS FOR YOUR PRECIOUS TIME >.<Originally posted by laurence82:bye to u then
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Stupid and naive, which part my my msg did i put its a COE 5 seriesOriginally posted by Deportivo:look jonzibonzi, you dun have to lie about the "new 5 series" because you already stated it is an COE 5 Series that cost an astounding 177k.
so which is which? your credibility stands at -1.
OMFG!
Either you are damn damn so fuggin stupid or.. don''t know what to say..
go check out la price of a bmw 523i lah.. try sgcarmart
stupid kids.. omg
Your intelligence is at an all time low of -100
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thats it manOriginally posted by jonzibonzi:Stupid and naive, which part my my msg did i put its a COE 5 series
OMFG!
Either you are damn damn so fuggin stupid or.. don''t know what to say..
go check out la price of a bmw 523i lah.. try sgcarmart
stupid kids.. omg
Your intelligence is at an all time low of -100
OMG damn stupid..... hahahhahaa
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I quote you...Originally posted by jonzibonzi:Stupid and naive, which part my my msg did i put its a COE 5 series
OMFG!
Either you are damn damn so fuggin stupid or.. don''t know what to say..
go check out la price of a bmw 523i lah.. try sgcarmart
stupid kids.. omg
Your intelligence is at an all time low of -100
OMG damn stupid..... hahahhahaa Originally posted by jonzibonzi:Wah damn stupid, i cannot take it the forumers here more stupid than me..
HAHAHA
use your common sense he also didn't say he is 10 year old he mean he know him for ten years.. and coe bmw is 177,000
OMG NAIVE kids
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forget it
mod told me he is banned already -
I am a BMW salesperson. To set the record straight, the BMW 523 is now $180,000. After which there is an overtrade discount of $5,000. Meaning, the BMW 523 (facelifted) is only $175,000. This price includes COE, 1 yr road tax and registration fees. Coe is about $17,000 +-. Results will be out again tomorrow.
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Originally posted by sixniner:
erm good one there, but next thing u know is that ppl will start asking u question and flamming you =x...
I am a BMW salesperson. To set the record straight, the BMW 523 is now $180,000. After which there is an overtrade discount of $5,000. Meaning, the BMW 523 (facelifted) is only [b]$175,000. This price includes COE, 1 yr road tax and registration fees. Coe is about $17,000 +-. Results will be out again tomorrow. [/b]
anyway, before they start asking you, i will do the honor and take the first step, and that is, prove leh?. -
No need
We got Cars forum
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Originally posted by sixniner:
I guess it's better that since if you are really a BMQ Car Salesperson.
I am a BMW salesperson. To set the record straight, the BMW 523 is now $180,000. After which there is an overtrade discount of $5,000. Meaning, the BMW 523 (facelifted) is only [b]$175,000. This price includes COE, 1 yr road tax and registration fees. Coe is about $17,000 +-. Results will be out again tomorrow. [/b]
Than show those people who's argueing on the price - the BMW price list.
Last time when I walk into the showroom to view the cars.
I took the price list home.
Show the updated price list than.
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proof is in sgcarmart. sixninner explanation on the price is very accurate. In a sense jonbonzi was not far off too.Originally posted by mihiro:erm good one there, but next thing u know is that ppl will start asking u question and flamming you =x...
anyway, before they start asking you, i will do the honor and take the first step, and that is, prove leh?.
but what we are contesting here is what jonbonzi is trying to say. He can twist and turn his words to suit his own agenda, which exemplifies the MLM professionals. -
finally got someone who speaks in a friendly term =x.Originally posted by Deportivo:proof is in sgcarmart. sixninner explanation on the price is very accurate. In a sense jonbonzi was not far off too.
but what we are contesting here is what jonbonzi is trying to say. He can twist and turn his words to suit his own agenda, which exemplifies the MLM professionals.
anyway i really see no point for them to actually upload any form of income statement of that particular sunshine member. Cos what does it really prove? A member earning this amount, and thats it , nothing else, it doesnt explain anything at all. moreover, the_fallen has been there at the company, so he "should" know better then many of the agent there that there are ppl whose income is exceeding 40k per month, or even more. so it doesnt prove that the company is genuine or not
as for jonbonzi, his trying all his best to explain, but mostly was based on his opinion. This is not what they are looking for, rookie explanation will only make things worst , it is like telling people i am a skilled footballer when they got their training via games and video.
in my opinion, i think the higher management can't be bothered about spending extra time here. it is pretty obvious that the type of people who is defending their company is not anyone from the higher management, but if there is, it would be better if they could be more formal in their reply then just opinion and assumption.
people who joined sunshine empire came from all form of life, investor, businessman, salesperson, drop out student, doctor,lawyer and even singer and etc. people may think they are blinded by greed, but do you mean all of them?
since jonbonzi already said, you guys can actually produce a list of criteria and enquiry to him, then he may compel whatever document and stuff you guys needed to actually believe that this company is genuine. if this doesnt work, it can only be determine it when the project is officially launch, if its doesnt work still, well, i would say it depends on how people can trust the company, because no company can get everyone to agreed on. -
to me this is quite sickOriginally posted by mihiro:finally got someone who speaks in a friendly term =x.
anyway i really see no point for them to actually upload any form of income statement of that particular sunshine member. Cos what does it really prove? A member earning this amount, and thats it , nothing else, it doesnt explain anything at all. moreover, the_fallen has been there at the company, so he "should" know better then many of the agent there that there are ppl whose income is exceeding 40k per month, or even more. so it doesnt prove that the company is genuine or not
as for jonbonzi, his trying all his best to explain, but mostly was based on his opinion. This is not what they are looking for, rookie explanation will only make things worst , it is like telling people i am a skilled footballer when they got their training via games and video.
in my opinion, i think the higher management can't be bothered about spending extra time here. it is pretty obvious that the type of people who is defending their company is not anyone from the higher management, but if there is, it would be better if they could be more formal in their reply then just opinion and assumption.
people who joined sunshine empire came from all form of life, investor, businessman, salesperson, drop out student, doctor,lawyer and even singer and etc. people may think they are blinded by greed, but do you mean all of them?
since jonbonzi already said, you guys can actually produce a list of criteria and enquiry to him, then he may compel whatever document and stuff you guys needed to actually believe that this company is genuine. if this doesnt work, it can only be determine it when the project is officially launch, if its doesnt work still, well, i would say it depends on how people can trust the company, because no company can get everyone to agreed on.
why should anyone be judged on whether they are friendly or not friendly? if they say something wrong, they should be taken to task, friendly or uncouthly
if anyone chose to brag about anything at all, they must be taken to task and prove their points, or to provide a logical reasoning for doing so, jonbonzi cannot do this, and disgustingly attempt to steer away from the issue, and yet keep flaming others, and yet i see you doing the same thing as him, putting down the need for proof. could you explain why so?
btw, i was informed by the moderator this morning he is banned for his behaviour
and the point of higher management not coming in here is irrelevant, and if they are rookies, we all can see, glad you admit this point, which brings me to your last point
if you say they are rookies, it goes to show that the company has so many in the scheme is simply because they are rookies, 1001 rookies joined doesnt mean the company is ok, and it goes to show your last statement is flawed
to me its 2 and 2 become 5, the number of people joining in a scheme is never an indicator of strength...its quantitative and superficial, and as many people posted before, there are numerous indicators out there, including quality of products, professionalism of agents in large etc
i am puzzled by your statement on greed, again 2 and 2 become 5, so what if they are stars and supposedly earn big bucks? greed is present, even in rich people
in fact, for your last paragraph, its totally illogical
we asked for a simple document
if he cant produce it, and divert from his incompetence or sheer bragging by talking about other issues, then its can be simply deduced no amount of criteria, however minimal, can bring about anything
you could very well say we expected it to be the case, as with experience with nti agents in this forum alone
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If one day my GM and CEO quit their job and join a MLM, i will say your MLM very good. But so far, i only see people who are not willing to work hard to climb their way up in a PROPER JOB but have fantasies of making it big in a short time.
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except for a few pioneers who leech of hundreds of their downlines, i never see anyone else displaying pissed off lousy attitude and glaringly lack of professionalism ever made it to the top in MLMOriginally posted by gasband:If one day my GM and CEO quit their job and join a MLM, i will say your MLM very good. But so far, i only see people who are not willing to work hard to climb their way up in a PROPER JOB but have fantasies of making it big in a short time.
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wow..You really have nothing better to do...
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Read through this newspaper article.Originally posted by mihiro:finally got someone who speaks in a friendly term =x.
anyway i really see no point for them to actually upload any form of income statement of that particular sunshine member. Cos what does it really prove? A member earning this amount, and thats it , nothing else, it doesnt explain anything at all. moreover, the_fallen has been there at the company, so he "should" know better then many of the agent there that there are ppl whose income is exceeding 40k per month, or even more. so it doesnt prove that the company is genuine or not
as for jonbonzi, his trying all his best to explain, but mostly was based on his opinion. This is not what they are looking for, rookie explanation will only make things worst , it is like telling people i am a skilled footballer when they got their training via games and video.
in my opinion, i think the higher management can't be bothered about spending extra time here. it is pretty obvious that the type of people who is defending their company is not anyone from the higher management, but if there is, it would be better if they could be more formal in their reply then just opinion and assumption.
people who joined sunshine empire came from all form of life, investor, businessman, salesperson, drop out student, doctor,lawyer and even singer and etc. people may think they are blinded by greed, but do you mean all of them?
since jonbonzi already said, you guys can actually produce a list of criteria and enquiry to him, then he may compel whatever document and stuff you guys needed to actually believe that this company is genuine. if this doesnt work, it can only be determine it when the project is officially launch, if its doesnt work still, well, i would say it depends on how people can trust the company, because no company can get everyone to agreed on.
Are you guys really in a honest company?
If it is, than why would there be such a article?
Lol.
Disclaimer: I'm not here to recruit. I'm here just to help people to clear their doubts only. I only help those people who are keen and sincere to be helped and not being defendsive and closed up. (If you want to see/read the full article, than PM me)
Showing cheques doesn't mean anything to me. If you're closed by this cheques, that means you're just a greedy person, that's all.
To me, black and white is everything.
Cheques to me, is just black money washed from recruitment of people via joining, when there's no sales involved on the spot. That is pyramid.
As for the professionals.
Think twice.
I being there 3 times, 3 times in a row, I see only Young Kids/Teenagers and Old Folks (Senior Citizens)
Back in 2005, it was only the young kids/teenagers; now the only increase in people are the elders; what does it means; do you see elders getting tricked or con by people requarly in the newspapers? Maybe in 2009, than you management will be able to find ways to attract the prime age group, but I doubt it will last so long. .
I can't find any professional who's a lawyer, doctor nor singers.
There's not even a single soul in the company who I see is from the prime working age.
Anyway, just by the edited article above, you might want to re-consider your choice.
A wiseman once says, when you want to leave the industry/company; leave at your peak, and not when you're falling.
If you understand what that means.
Or either you can choose to stay and and when you lose your reputation and creditability, than you will be the person complaining already and having lawsuits against you. -
Hmm...