melaleuca
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btw, enron was publicly listed too
anyway, you guys go for it...
not my cup of tea... too many have been SCAMMED.. yes.. i use that word SCAMMED.. because on the invitation of people, i've sat in and listened to charlatans try to scam people into buying into the company, selling them 5 bottles of pills for $950 when i have googled similiar products in the open market for $40
and the only way they could get their money back (breakeven) was to scam another lot of people into paying out $950 (i calculated about 7 but they only allowed 5 per person.. you had to ante out another $950... to get more.. and pray that some of your 5 have their own lower level)
after some voodoo math by the fella, i begged to differ and showed him the real math, i was told curtly to leave...
now, does that sound like a scam?
somewhere out there, it is written that MLM is a dying industry.. the birth of the Internet has negated the need for MLM...
i hope you guys well
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Since i'm not here for recruiting...y not give it a try....play ur part,sign up,refer someone..see it for urself...i've done it,and its a total diff from the MLM's i've joined earlier..Originally posted by duotiga83:well...1 of my friend ask me to join her...still doubting whether is it working or not though i myself been thru 1 of the seminar & was pretty impressed
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just refer melalouca to a fren..Originally posted by the Bear:refer what?
sales or people to sales? -
just give u a short...brief..when ur 1st referral purchasing his good for the 1st month...u'll get 25% of it and subsequently 7% for the 2nd month...and i mean CASH[/b]...nt products voucher,points etc..and will be bank in ur saving account...check it out personally at the address stated in my earlier post..Originally posted by mhcampboy:impressive...
so how is the payout like?
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Originally posted by nwm:
Its up to individual ways of accepting things...i'm here not to decriminate or promote anything..btw...don't easily accept others opinion..its your's that matters...cause regret is not and option...Gd luck in exploring the markets..
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melaleuca is known even in its home country...
to "pretend" to not be a "mlm".
it's business falls clearly within network marketing / mlm jurisdictions.
so its an odd tactic.
in our opinion, for those who join thinking its not mlm... might be disappointed in a more devastating fashion when they find out the truth.
might as well be open about it and say "yes, melaleuca [b]is network marketing".
2)
payout?
you mean comp plan, mhcampboy?
melaleuca is a forced matrix.
the only good part is the spillover.
but even if you want to earn from the spillover downlines in Melaleuca... you, yourself, need to sponsor 4, 5, 6, 12, more & more & more customers/distributors to earn the larger product sales commissions.
i'm sure you guys know the pros & cons of matrix plans. do you other critiques know about it? See here:
http://networkmarketingtrialsandtribulations.blogspot.com/2007/01/something-big-thats-often.html
3)
melaleuca will promote to you that "we retain 90% of our customers".
well... just like most other network marketing businesses... there is the monthly autoship.
so the 90% figure is more like a "mandatory" one.
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nonetheless, melaleuca is testament that true network marketing still works in the skeptic capital of the world -- singapore.
so, there's nothing to be afraid of in checking out legitimate network marketing businesses (especially professional & established american ones) -- be it for product promotion... or simple product consumption.
5)
melaleuca is a decades old company.
privately owned & relatively good.
rather new in singapore.
but their global expansion is still (slowly) determined by the company's decisions.
in over a decade of existence, it is now still only operating in 10 or 10+ countries.
we have researched and they have clarified that to open new markets / countries (which is a lucrative aspect of network marketing) will take much admin & approvals & office to be put in place for melaleuca.
strong companies which are stable (some even public listed!!), and some which are young (less than 10 yrs), with strong products... have opened logistics to ship to 30 to 50 countries!
they may not have much business going in all 30/50 countries but at least they are "able" to ship products & conduct business.
which is more lucrative... surely us "educated" singaporeans can clearly determine from the above?
hope that helps the general Sg population to figure melaleuca out.
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Originally posted by Phat_Boyd:
All 5 pointers raised are FACTS and not "opinions".
Its up to individual ways of accepting things...i'm here not to decriminate or promote anything..btw...don't easily accept others opinion..its your's that matters...cause regret is not and option...Gd luck in exploring the markets..
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Originally posted by the Bear:
Mr/Ms Bear, are you some1 who needs to improve on comprehension too?
btw, enron was publicly listed too
anyway, you guys go for it...
not my cup of tea... too many have been SCAMMED.. yes.. i use that word SCAMMED.. because on the invitation of people, i've sat in and listened to charlatans try to scam people into buying into the company, selling them 5 bottles of pills for $950 when i have googled similiar products in the open market for $40
and the only way they could get their money back (breakeven) was to scam another lot of people into paying out $950 (i calculated about 7 but they only allowed 5 per person.. you had to ante out another $950... to get more.. and pray that some of your 5 have their own lower level)
after some voodoo math by the fella, i begged to differ and showed him the real math, i was told curtly to leave...
now, does that sound like a scam?
somewhere out there, it is written that MLM is a dying industry.. the birth of the Internet has negated the need for MLM...
i hope you guys well
your point about enron is kinda off-topic. there are fraudsters in every industry. doh!
we said: "will you invest money in a public listed company, or private company? holding all factors equal, it is simply safer to go public. "
your post simply shows what your intentions are here on sgforums. to pick on the negatives and build a case for yourself.
"you guys go for it" is your last ditch remark after every generic industry fact has been replied to you.
again, skeptics abound in anything... religion, sales, even... employment, etcetc.
"SCAMMED" -- again loosely used by Ms Bear.
you may have attended a presentation by an un-feasible company. that's all.
and you are so quick to judge all companies by that one experience.
ok... let us pose you this question we had raise before:
Extrim / Xando is sold quite steadily over the counter at Watson's / Guardian. (FYI, its slimming effect is much safer & natural than negative products like slim10.)
If a brand with similar ingredients & effectiveness & equal/more credible country of origin, is available 40% discounted, which will you choose to purchase?
This is a real case of products available via MLM.
what is your "real math"??
-- you have challenged others, and have not shown any from your own brilliant mind.
does what sound like a scam??
-- it could be that you weren't very nice about what you were doing. if you went to an acquaintance's house & started complaining about the mom's cooking right in the middle of dinner... where do you think you'll be sitting in 5 minutes? @ the dinner table???
"somewhere out there, it is written that" Ms Bear is a boliao sgforum stalker.
are we to believe "somewhere out there"?
no, right? you might be the most decent citizen ever. (just a little skeptical, that's all )
"the internet" is a very good point.
what was your point about "negation"??
actually, the web will only serve to assist network marketing... especially for people who are resourceful enough to tap the vast marketing strategies available.
one's previous (local) market would have been friends/families... but the internet has reversed all of that and opened up the GLOBAL market -- everybody is your customer.
one doesn't even have to "face" his/her customer anymore. deals can be cut via email / websites.
(why do you think swisscash (though illegal) was able to garner such widespread interest??)
any internet whizzes wanting to expand their income from online activities... come talk to us. -
yosh....make it a shot.....
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Hmm...lets take the example of iraqi dinars and swiss cash...heard a lot of discrimination/rumours from locals reporters fearing to be conned...guess wat.. i'm an investor for both...get my returns for the iraqi dinars...in USD3.6k for just referrals(hmm..well got gd responds fr colleague/clients) recently..jz awaiting for the 15th months of my swiss cash offshore investment...kp u update again when the time is due...Well..everything has it own risk either low or high..no risk means no returns(conned)..gd luckOriginally posted by nwm:All 5 pointers raised are FACTS and not "opinions".
Yes, regret is not an option, but at least the law is there to protect the consumer / biz owner who chooses legitimate companies.
Btw..recently just invest in www.buyebarrel.com..
Check it out...Although I'm Not A Risk Taker...I like to explore/experience it by myself...not by thoughts or opinnions fr others...NO Pain NO GAIN.. -
tsk tsk tsk, bear bear bear, dats y I always feel lucky to be in SG coz this country has the most scepticle people in the world, its a good training ground actually. We need a lot of people like you and its good for training people like us believe in MLM or CDM.Originally posted by the Bear:btw, enron was publicly listed too
anyway, you guys go for it...
not my cup of tea... too many have been SCAMMED.. yes.. i use that word SCAMMED.. because on the invitation of people, i've sat in and listened to charlatans try to scam people into buying into the company, selling them 5 bottles of pills for $950 when i have googled similiar products in the open market for $40
and the only way they could get their money back (breakeven) was to scam another lot of people into paying out $950 (i calculated about 7 but they only allowed 5 per person.. you had to ante out another $950... to get more.. and pray that some of your 5 have their own lower level)
after some voodoo math by the fella, i begged to differ and showed him the real math, i was told curtly to leave...
now, does that sound like a scam?
somewhere out there, it is written that MLM is a dying industry.. the birth of the Internet has negated the need for MLM...
i hope you guys well
Nvm dat way of your wise thinking, there are still people out there still believe with regards about MLM or CDM....cheers!
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I have tried and dabbled into various MLMs such as Amway, Nu Skin and Bel-air and did not have good experiences with it. Although their compensation plans are much more attractive, they are also extremely prone to manipulation and you can end up losing lots of inventory.
I was really skeptical at first, but my wife and my retired father started it and is now reaping in a good decent monthly paycheck that is increasing by the month whilst working on it part-time. (I'm still hitting myself on the head on hesistating and now signing up
) The best part is that the investment is really small. Just $50 to get you off with a full business kit and you're off.
Another reason why this is going to take off... is that the company has not launched its 'internet ordering' and 'enrolment' portal yet (expected mid-Apr / May). Yes, it is still that new in Singapore.
If you are interested, pse PM me or visit our website at 'www.melaleucasingapore.com'. We'll be able to provide you more details there... -
how about saturation?
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hi sonic 16...like to ask you about saturation...
what is "saturation"?
pardon my pun...
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As for saturation, melaleuca has just set up shop in singapore just a little a year ago... currently only 16,000 people have signed up and we're far from being saturated. Almost everyone we've recommended have not heard of it yet (unlike Nu Skin, Usana, Amway) and most were quite impressed with the pricing and quality of the products.
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$50 is kind of expensive...Originally posted by joetanbk:I have tried and dabbled into various MLMs such as Amway, Nu Skin and Bel-air and did not have good experiences with it. Although their compensation plans are much more attractive, they are also extremely prone to manipulation and you can end up losing lots of inventory.
I was really skeptical at first, but my wife and my retired father started it and is now reaping in a good decent monthly paycheck that is increasing by the month whilst working on it part-time. (I'm still hitting myself on the head on hesistating and now signing up ) The best part is that the investment is really small. Just $50 to get you off with a full business kit and you're off.
Another reason why this is going to take off... is that the company has not launched its 'internet ordering' and 'enrolment' portal yet (expected mid-Apr / May). Yes, it is still that new in Singapore.
If you are interested, pse PM me or visit our website at 'www.melaleucasingapore.com'. We'll be able to provide you more details there...
i've got offers costing less than that..
and the products works as well..
with regards to the mlm companies that you've mentioned, from what i observed, most of them if not all of them emphasis on sales more than recruitment..
but since we're talking about positive residual income each month with lots of repeat sales, thus it's okay to choose companies which concentrate on sales rather networking..
correct me if i'm wrong in anyway..
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Pardon my butting in. I've read many posts in this forum debunking MLM companies as 'Ponzi schemes' because they focus too much on recruitment. Here I see people sneering at MLM companies for focusing too much on sales.
In ANY company, MLM or not, isn't sales the most important aspect of the business? More Sales = More $$$$$$ = More profits
In fact, if anyone who is working for a company knows that the company is not doing well in sales, he/she will be worried and should be too.
I reckon anyone who wants to be successful in MLM has to associate him/herself with a company that is doing well. Sorry, having large crowds of people at meetings does not equate high sales. You got to observe the sales counter - how many people out of the 500 attendees at the meeting are actually buying products. Of course, not all sales transactions are done during the duration of the meetings, but most are.
I personally do not view the 'packaging' (lavish furnishings, large office space, etc) as the SOLE indication of the company's credibility or even success. I would prefer to look at how well the products are received by everyone I know and whether I'll be paid my bonus cheque promptly every month.
I am not a network marketer myself but I do know many people who were/are in MLM - past and present.
Melaleuca is well known in the market as a competitor of Amway because of its product line.
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I have been hearing how good and cheap Melaleuca's products are...... Anyone here tried any of their products?
Err..please hor...I am just interested in products and not joining as a distributor.