Once and For all...Please...Spot the Pattern!
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The previous MK failure was explained because james phang brother embezzled money from the company, but why the didn't report him to police, i think its "par kat" with james phang to give an excuse, maybe the money still hiding somewhere in some bank... BIG amount!
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Wah! KNLBACCB!!! Why you all KPKB so much? Why all these CHEE BYE KIA bother how much we earn and how the coy earn, if u all dun invest? KNN la! All shut up yr CHEE BYE mouth which yr CHEE BYE mother gave u!!!! Btw, i got all my returns! Happy?
PS: KNNBCCB!!!! SHUT UP LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
I hereby propose to the forum management that this guy be banned lah. Why flood the whole forum with vulgarities. It doesnt do any good to anyone, seriously.Originally posted by D_Teo:Wah! KNLBACCB!!! Why you all KPKB so much? Why all these CHEE BYE KIA bother how much we earn and how the coy earn, if u all dun invest? KNN la! All shut up yr CHEE BYE mouth which yr CHEE BYE mother gave u!!!! Btw, i got all my returns! Happy?
PS: KNNBCCB!!!! SHUT UP LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really, D_Teo. Your actions meant to tell everyone that investors like you are just blind people. Blindly immersed in investments and flood your brains with nothing but money, and NO MANNERS. -
Originally posted by TIB744U:
Hi all,
I hereby propose to the forum management that this guy be banned lah. Why flood the whole forum with vulgarities. It doesnt do any good to anyone, seriously.
[b]Really, D_Teo. Your actions meant to tell everyone that investors like you are just blind people. Blindly immersed in investments and flood your brains with nothing but money, and NO MANNERS.[/b]
ive been following the various threads on forums regarding Emcom. ive personally been investing in the stock market and i know that theres no such thing as a free lunch. 800% ROI sounds tempting and i would park some of my assets in Emcom if it sits right with me.
Propaganda is being used to harvest the cash cows in scams, people work on greed, esp youngsters who lack clarity. Basic knowledge about investments? Kids have none & only look up to the money that they can/ have been earning. Kids looking for their first job, or part-time jobs are lured into these schemes. Maybe they earn lotsa $$, but have they ever considered about the viability of the biz?
Anwy, i dont really understand the purpose of all these threads as noone is willing to step forward or do anything about it..
1. As members you dont want the public to view u as partners in a scam, which is illegal fyi if ure a willing participant in sumting that u alrdy know is a scam.. Best solution is to appeal to the mgt to shed some light on their revenue, cashflow, COMPLETE hierachy of the whole of NTI/Sunshine/EmpireGrp (who comes under who, and what will be coming under who in the future)and legally approved investor remedies?
Afterall, these are some things that the public would look out for..
2. For those sharing their understanding on why this is a scam, why not take it to the authorities since u strongly believe it is to be one? Shouldn't we as citizens, be more focused in ensuring that corporate fraud faces repurcussions?
I am in the sales line and i empathise with those who get their companies labelled as scams.. It means that our strong belief is being threatened, thus its human nature to get defensive about it..
BUT, instead of channeling anger into defense, why not be more constructive and channel it into proof?
I want to know more about Emcom, as i want to try my hand at investing in sumting riskier.. Is there anyone who can convince the crowd instead of one who hurls vulgarities and making yr company look like a bunch of illiterate, uncouth kids or even worse.. an ah beng? -
Regarding point 2, we did bring this up to the authorities regarding previous projects, however when you sign on the dotted line, you are hence regarded as an investor. With investments comes the risk of the company going ka-put.Originally posted by raitoh2007:Hi all,
ive been following the various threads on forums regarding Emcom. ive personally been investing in the stock market and i know that theres no such thing as a free lunch. 800% ROI sounds tempting and i would park some of my assets in Emcom if it sits right with me.
Propaganda is being used to harvest the cash cows in scams, people work on greed, esp youngsters who lack clarity. Basic knowledge about investments? Kids have none & only look up to the money that they can/ have been earning. Kids looking for their first job, or part-time jobs are lured into these schemes. Maybe they earn lotsa $$, but have they ever considered about the viability of the biz?
Anwy, i dont really understand the purpose of all these threads as noone is willing to step forward or do anything about it..
1. As members you dont want the public to view u as partners in a scam, which is illegal fyi if ure a willing participant in sumting that u alrdy know is a scam.. Best solution is to appeal to the mgt to shed some light on their revenue, cashflow, COMPLETE hierachy of the whole of NTI/Sunshine/EmpireGrp (who comes under who, and what will be coming under who in the future)and legally approved investor remedies?
Afterall, these are some things that the public would look out for..
2. For those sharing their understanding on why this is a scam, why not take it to the authorities since u strongly believe it is to be one? Shouldn't we as citizens, be more focused in ensuring that corporate fraud faces repurcussions?
I am in the sales line and i empathise with those who get their companies labelled as scams.. It means that our strong belief is being threatened, thus its human nature to get defensive about it..
BUT, instead of channeling anger into defense, why not be more constructive and channel it into proof?
I want to know more about Emcom, as i want to try my hand at investing in sumting riskier.. Is there anyone who can convince the crowd instead of one who hurls vulgarities and making yr company look like a bunch of illiterate, uncouth kids or even worse.. an ah beng?
Using various loopsholes, they are able to pass off their products as legal. Do run a quick search on ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes. They will explain why the authorities cannot do much except to warn people about such schemes. -
They claim to have a 150% guarantee on investment on their contract. Does that mean anything under the eyes of the law? provided theres any entity regulating them of course..Originally posted by bangkokboy:Regarding point 2, we did bring this up to the authorities regarding previous projects, however when you sign on the dotted line, you are hence regarded as an investor. With investments comes the risk of the company going ka-put.
Using various loopsholes, they are able to pass off their products as legal. Do run a quick search on ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes. They will explain why the authorities cannot do much except to warn people about such schemes.
What i know of is that banks have priority over the assets upon liquidation, followed by secured and unsecured charges.
Read in the net that there was a scam which became tremendously huge and led to an inflated GDP, the economy took a dive after it was exposed..
its a consolation that this one, if it was a scam, isnt large enough to create an impact.. -
i really like this header becos the bunch of ppl from swisscash never stops...
come to this forum to flame others so that others will be conned to join the swiss scam.
Swiss gang, once and for all... please.... spot ur own pattern. All this while you guys aways fail in whatever u are doing and this time u will fail again as usual. sometimes it's really a BIG joke to see you guys driving the BMWs..hahaha
I really hope u guys can sleep well after telling so many lies, dun worry cos many ppl will look for u for an answer very soon.
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Mornington Country Club? Hahaha, last time, I always pass by there on my way to Seletar Camp. Didn't know so many shady activities going on in there! I've always wanted to check it out when I go for nights out but always decided not to, dunno why.
Lucky me!
Haha, Haunted Country Club. Dun scare me leh. My 2 yrs of NS was there... Ok la, my first impressions were also that it's a ghost town lol... Immune to it after I book in countless times haha! -
Latest News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The group under Tommy ALL withdrew from this "excellent" wireless project!!!!
They even left that one eye, CON man, Mr James Phang and joined one of the US-Based MLM company in Shaw house!!!!!
What happened ar?
Why they leave ar?
Why they leave if that project is so good ar?
Why? Why? Why?
Anyone idiots from sunshine empire can answer this? -
huh?Originally posted by MLM Victim:Latest News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The group under Tommy ALL withdrew from this "excellent" wireless project!!!!
They even left that one eye, CON man, Mr James Phang and joined one of the US-Based MLM company in Shaw house!!!!!
What happened ar?
Why they leave ar?
Why they leave if that project is so good ar?
Why? Why? Why?
Anyone idiots from sunshine empire can answer this?
what the toot happened?
who have tommy's no?
i wanna call him ask what happen leh
which mlm did he and his network join?
new us based company - melaleu*a? -
do you have any form of written agreement that they have written in the passed?Originally posted by snobbish:I once UNKNOWINGLY worked there 3 days as a marketing executive. Found their tactics strange and the country club super old. Luckily i escaped after finding out it was not a proper country club
Found From some website:
Country club
Awaiting a response
Mornington Country Club starts collecting fees for September start-up but only gym, among host of promised facilities, is ready. Member wants out.
Oct 21, 2004
"How R U: wrote to soc.culture.singapore on Oct 14, 2004:
"I just joined this country club, situated in Seletar camp at Jalan Kayu.
Before I paid my membership fees and 6-month subscription fees in advance, the management promised all facilities would be ready by end Sept, 2004. The membership and subscription fees took effect from 1st October, 2004. But till today only the gym is ready.
Everything still half way through. Worst still , although the gym is ready, but almost
all the gym equipment are very very old, some are not even servicable.
The management just couldn't careless because gym is the section which is not generating income for the management. It is really very unfair to the members. Just can't imagine new club with so worn out equipment. Really cannot understand the mentality of the management of this club.
Now want to back out but how to do it? Any advice? Thanks.
Doody
Some so-called country clubs are really built and operate on low budgets. Buyers should check out the facilities first. Singapore is not going to have many rich people in future to enjoy these expensive clubs.
Freesia
Mabye it is a country-side Club, or Country Bumpkin's Club.
How R U
BELOW WAS THEIR ADVERTISMENT ON GOOGLE IN MARCH 2004.
From: New Country Club ([email protected])
Subject: New Luxurious Country Club Membership for grap This is the only article in these Newsgroups: sg.announce, sg.consumers, sg.general, sg.marketplace, sg.singnet.marketplace
Date: 2004-03-23 07:01:36 PST
Mornington Country club
A Life Of Luxury Awaits
Sporting & Recreational,
Beauty & Wellness
Dining
Others:
Swimming Pool
Hair Salon
Food Terrace
Business Centre
Jacuzzi
Health Spa
(Expected completion september 2004)
Beer Garden
Conference Rooms
Gym (free use for members)
Lounge
Mini-mart
Dance & Song Studio
Pub
Car Grooming Centre
Mahjong Rooms
Pool-side Bar
Free Valet Service
Billiard & Pool
Deluxe Accomodation (For Rent)
TV Rooms
Bicycle Rental
Game Arcade
Golf Course
Television Rooms
Jackpot
For First 3,000 Members signed up: Only $350
All membership plans will commence 1st September 2004.
Each member will be charged a subscription fee of $15 per month, payable half-yearly in advance.
Each member may also sign up a supplementary member free of charge.
The supplementary member will only have to pay a subscription fee of $10 per month to enjoy the full range of membership priviledges. This subscription fee is to be paid 12 months in advance.
For further enquiry please call or sms: 91081071
email : [email protected].
Freesia
Consider looking up other members of this cuntry club to take a class-action suit. That will wake the management up real quick.
Earwig
There will probably be a clause prohibiting you from resigning....
ForgetMeNot
Guess their model of attracting mainly HDB dwellers to this club with low entry fee, did not work well.
With all those hidden clauses add in, it is difficult to get your money back.
Druid
Try CASE
Oct 21, 2004
if you do have, than maybe you can law a lawsuit against them for not able to fullfill what they have stated in the agreement and demand for compensation.
since it's a country club property, you might be able to get help if you did have any form of agreement with you