Another Scam Project By Ex-NOP Boss, James Phang! Beware!
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This is issue is like discussed for the umpteenth time...anyway, no MLM companies have been charged yet because of these loopholes, and at the same time increase in complaints against unethical direct sellingOriginally posted by bangkokboy:Hehe, actually quite difficult to prove MLMs are scams because most of them have products. And those products are just a cover for the pyramid scheme. A quick search on ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes on google will turn up many examples. It's a legal loophole man! The Singapore authorities will do well to warn their citizens about it, but clearly nothing has been done!
But any back to the topic, can anyone explained why he called those people low life losers? What happened?
i believe i posted one article, and it was in ST last year about increasing complaints to Case, i believe the companies named were like Venture Era and Lux (?)
so, we can actually see a lack of enforcement or regulations
As for low life losers, that is pure flaming and name calling. The mods, like i said, are watching anyway
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read the dictionary if you dun understand lah, OMG
Aiya this is lame, i don't want to play anymore, anyway to the investors, don't invest anymore money now,
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strangely, if i have been talking nonsense, means the nti side should be making more sense and you would be investing or something
you are not coming here to discuss or anything
its precisely people like these that the forum become a flameground
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although i said earlier that i will not reply to your post in future, but due to some factors which i have to make clear, so i will just explain more from your post.Originally posted by laurence82:Yeah right, you have already invested in phase 1 already
Clearly, I dont know what is it with nti peeps, coming into act neutral and yet have already vested interest in the project
Wonder when you guys would clean up your act.
Are you going to continue ignoring fallen and bangkokboy's words and just continue aiming me?
I suggest not
btw, can post your reply in short and summary?
the thread is like becoming your own converstaion thread rather than a real discussion forum with many people. (as your replies far exceeds many of the people who replied here) - this is the reason why i have to quote your phase.
hm, i think the reason why they keep replying to your replies is because
1- you have no contact with NTI itself
2- you have nothing to fall back on
3- you just do research, which is good, but didn't show them the proof. (maybe some print-screens or pictures as proof to shut the person from doing advertising of emcom perhaps?)
why he can't rebuke my post -
i guess reason is simple. whatever i post. is logical, 3 yr old kid will also agree on what I usually post.
as long as it's logical, they can't rebuke you than they will slowly avoid to spilt the answer out. which is what NTI leaders have being practising from the start. (their method of getting things done - when they fail, they lay-low be silent for a few months. BUT when they 'succeed on the surface' then they keep self-declare that they ARE THE BEST and stuffs like that.)
Example - Last Yr, when they saw a very famous and popular product from America, they (NTI) openly announced to those distributors in the training lessons that they WILL GET THE DISTRIBUTORSHIP OF THESE PRODUCT BY THE NAME OF ARTISTRY for those people who still remember.
but what happens after that?
when the leaders fail to acheieve what they have speak out earlier. they just quietly start another product some time later after laying low for a few months.
so how good are the leaders of NTI actually?
only know how to talk big, but when they fail in something, they don't even give proper explainations on why they failed, look at the problem and refelct than improve.
instead they just keep quiet and hope everything will be forgotten as time passes. (this is what everybody do in fact in everyday life)
BUT this practise is definately NOT GOOD SINCE THEY ARE DOING A BUSINESS!!.
Not being responsible for what they have said out previously.
At least admit their mistakes la, but they don't.
Even in GOVT, those people who have spoken ill of others, will apologise, even Straits Time aplolgies to people or companies if there's a need to.
So why can't NTI do it?
Answer- simple- Not a good company, no good leaders to follow.
there are many ugly facts and truths of NTI, just that since there are so many people who blindly follow. than all the best lor.
lol..
The Blind (NTI leaders and management team) Leading The Blind (The New Rookies NTI Agents) -
this is where you are wrongOriginally posted by the_fallen:although i said earlier that i will not reply to your post in future, but due to some factors which i have to make clear, so i will just explain more from your post.
btw, can post your reply in short and summary?
the thread is like becoming your own converstaion thread rather than a real discussion forum with many people. (as your replies far exceeds many of the people who replied here) - this is the reason why i have to quote your phase.
hm, i think the reason why they keep replying to your replies is because
1- you have no contact with NTI itself
2- you have nothing to fall back on
3- you just do research, which is good, but didn't show them the proof. (maybe some print-screens or pictures as proof to shut the person from doing advertising of emcom perhaps?)
why he can't rebuke my post -
i guess reason is simple. whatever i post. is logical, 3 yr old kid will also agree on what I usually post.
you were not here for past three years
a) they will flame and reply even if there are strong overwhelming testimonials and evidence posted by ex nti agents, go to the old threads and start digging, even i had posted my experience
b) it simply means you do not understand their behaviour
c) so far you have not posted any strong evidence against nti, yet only rely on your 'logic', pardon me, this put us on the same status, and going by your logic, they should be flaming you and yet they did not
in summary, i find it strange
forumers confessed to be neutral and researching, but had already signed up from phase 1
forumers who could not post their evidence, and yet avoided the barbs and instead joined hands with the other side they are supposedly opposed to
do i have to printscreen? i do not mod this forum, and i do not have to printscreen threads which is closed but not deleted, which is why i warned that mods are closely watching this forum
again, in short, you are not reading and the behaviours of some forumers do not match their claimed position
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somehow this i agree, but strangely, been said and even repeated to heck, so i dont understand the value your post add to this discussionOriginally posted by the_fallen:as long as it's logical, they can't rebuke you than they will slowly avoid to spilt the answer out. which is what NTI leaders have being practising from the start. (their method of getting things done - when they fail, they lay-low be silent for a few months. BUT when they 'succeed on the surface' then they keep self-declare that they ARE THE BEST and stuffs like that.)
Example - Last Yr, when they saw a very famous and popular product from America, they (NTI) openly announced to those distributors in the training lessons that they WILL GET THE DISTRIBUTORSHIP OF THESE PRODUCT BY THE NAME OF ARTISTRY for those people who still remember.
but what happens after that?
when the leaders fail to acheieve what they have speak out earlier. they just quietly start another product some time later after laying low for a few months.
so how good are the leaders of NTI actually?
only know how to talk big, but when they fail in something, they don't even give proper explainations on why they failed, look at the problem and refelct than improve.
instead they just keep quiet and hope everything will be forgotten as time passes. (this is what everybody do in fact in everyday life)
BUT this practise is definately NOT GOOD SINCE THEY ARE DOING A BUSINESS!!.
Not being responsible for what they have said out previously.
At least admit their mistakes la, but they don't.
Even in GOVT, those people who have spoken ill of others, will apologise, even Straits Time aplolgies to people or companies if there's a need to.
So why can't NTI do it?
Answer- simple- Not a good company, no good leaders to follow.
there are many ugly facts and truths of NTI, just that since there are so many people who blindly follow. than all the best lor.
lol.. The Blind (NTI leaders and management team) Leading The Blind (The New Rookies NTI Agents) -
To those who has not been in MLM, you will never feel the same anguish that those that were cheated felt. Jonzi, you have no right to call them low life losers.
Infact do you even know what really happened to them in the first place? What gives you the right to mock them without knowing first hand what had happened? I do know of many people whose savings were lost in MLM, I have yet to hear any success stories. NOT EVEN ONE!
We have lots of MLMers coming in boasting about their astronomical income, only to see their demise... Instead, what we see are endless tides of ex-MLMers (several of which from the top level) revealing the dirty tricks employed by the higher managements. Does that not tell us something?
You can choose to ignore the warnings and carry on. We can only serve to inform, whatever conclusions the reader derive is entirely up to him/her.
Cheers,
BKKboy -
I should have replied yesterday, but due to the slow connection, i reply today.Originally posted by the_fallen:although i said earlier that i will not reply to your post in future, but due to some factors which i have to make clear, so i will just explain more from your post.
btw, can post your reply in short and summary?
the thread is like becoming your own converstaion thread rather than a real discussion forum with many people. (as your replies far exceeds many of the people who replied here) - this is the reason why i have to quote your phase.
hm, i think the reason why they keep replying to your replies is because
1- you have no contact with NTI itself
2- you have nothing to fall back on
3- you just do research, which is good, but didn't show them the proof. (maybe some print-screens or pictures as proof to shut the person from doing advertising of emcom perhaps?)
why he can't rebuke my post -
i guess reason is simple. whatever i post. is logical, 3 yr old kid will also agree on what I usually post.
as long as it's logical, they can't rebuke you than they will slowly avoid to spilt the answer out. which is what NTI leaders have being practising from the start. (their method of getting things done - when they fail, they lay-low be silent for a few months. BUT when they 'succeed on the surface' then they keep self-declare that they ARE THE BEST and stuffs like that.)
Example - Last Yr, when they saw a very famous and popular product from America, they (NTI) openly announced to those distributors in the training lessons that they WILL GET THE DISTRIBUTORSHIP OF THESE PRODUCT BY THE NAME OF ARTISTRY for those people who still remember.
but what happens after that?
when the leaders fail to acheieve what they have speak out earlier. they just quietly start another product some time later after laying low for a few months.
so how good are the leaders of NTI actually?
only know how to talk big, but when they fail in something, they don't even give proper explainations on why they failed, look at the problem and refelct than improve.
instead they just keep quiet and hope everything will be forgotten as time passes. (this is what everybody do in fact in everyday life)
BUT this practise is definately NOT GOOD SINCE THEY ARE DOING A BUSINESS!!.
Not being responsible for what they have said out previously.
At least admit their mistakes la, but they don't.
Even in GOVT, those people who have spoken ill of others, will apologise, even Straits Time aplolgies to people or companies if there's a need to.
So why can't NTI do it?
Answer- simple- Not a good company, no good leaders to follow.
there are many ugly facts and truths of NTI, just that since there are so many people who blindly follow. than all the best lor.
lol.. The Blind (NTI leaders and management team) Leading The Blind (The New Rookies NTI Agents)
Hi first of all, i did replied to quite a few of your posts, please read through again if you have not.
I have to agree, some investment advice given by you is quite good, but regarding emcom's issue i have to disagree. You are just purely using your emotions to make comments, as i said before your news is updated.
I too have to agree that some leaders or so called leaders in NTI is talking big, but i would like you to use "some" please, because not everyone is doing the same way. Anyway whether the followers is blind or not is up to you ti determine, you cannot represent their thoughts and feel.
Once again any enquires or doubts, just shoot and i will try my best to give you the answers as i always had.
Anyway Lau is just giving views in the stand of those people who do not believe, whats wrong with it ? -
I agree with what you are saying. But if you ask me, i wun say its scamming or what.Originally posted by bangkokboy:To those who has not been in MLM, you will never feel the same anguish that those that were cheated felt. Jonzi, you have no right to call them low life losers.
Infact do you even know what really happened to them in the first place? What gives you the right to mock them without knowing first hand what had happened? I do know of many people whose savings were lost in MLM, I have yet to hear any success stories. NOT EVEN ONE!
We have lots of MLMers coming in boasting about their astronomical income, only to see their demise... Instead, what we see are endless tides of ex-MLMers (several of which from the top level) revealing the dirty tricks employed by the higher managements. Does that not tell us something?
You can choose to ignore the warnings and carry on. We can only serve to inform, whatever conclusions the reader derive is entirely up to him/her.
Cheers,
BKKboy
I drop out of NTI for 2 times and this is the 3rd time joining back. Why ? Because i see the potential in it.
I too agree that the refund policy of the company sucks but standing in the point of company its for the company good. As the payout is already given, if the product is returned the company sure made a loss. Unlike amyway and other similar, their chq is paid end of the month, which means if a item is refunded, the commission wun be paid.
Anyway i would like to say again, i do not represent the company, i represent myself. I too agree that there is lots of unetical people in NTI, but i am tell you i am not one of them. I believe in different people will be different under the same system. End of the day its all up to yourself. -
BRO. For god's sake, if you REALLY MUST DO MLM can you please get off your moralistic high horse and look around you and find ANOTHER COMPANY TO JOIN? A company that won't change it's plan or payout or projects or products every 6 months? I really feel like LAUGHING, BRO!Originally posted by LegacyMan:I agree with what you are saying. But if you ask me, i wun say its scamming or what.
I drop out of NTI for 2 times and this is the 3rd time joining back. Why ? Because i see the potential in it.
You actually managed to LEAVE TWICE from NTI but now you are telling us you let yourself get CONNED for the THIRD time!!!
...excuse me while I supress the urge to roll around on the floor laughing...
...ok, I'm back.
Leave ONCE and come back again, means you are stupid.
Leave TWICE and come back again, tells me you got NO WILLPOWER man!
You never hear before ar, Hao Ma Bu Chi Hui Tou Cao.
You are trying to tell us, O, some people in NTI are very bad, but you are not like that. Then what on earth are you doing there? Can't make it anywhere else is it? -
I left not because i got conned, and everytime i joined back i earned back what i invested, so is the people i bring in.Originally posted by TELESCOPE:BRO. For god's sake, if you REALLY MUST DO MLM can you please get off your moralistic high horse and look around you and find ANOTHER COMPANY TO JOIN? A company that won't change it's plan or payout or projects or products every 6 months? I really feel like LAUGHING, BRO!
You actually managed to LEAVE TWICE from NTI but now you are telling us you let yourself get CONNED for the THIRD time!!!
...excuse me while I supress the urge to roll around on the floor laughing...
...ok, I'm back.
I left because i do not like the enviroment. Anyway now i joined back because of trust in my fren. Anyway i am not in Jackies or Desmond group, at least we dun work with them.
Frankly i know there is unethical people in NTI, basically in every MLM company, but if you are not working with them then its fine.
Anyway if people wants to think like what you say, then i have no choice also ma. Being in sunshine empire is just a sideline, i am doing my own business too. I am only trying to learn thing with my friends.
Leave ONCE and come back again, means you are stupid.
Leave TWICE and come back again, tells me you got NO WILLPOWER man!
You never hear before ar, Hao Ma Bu Chi Hui Tou Cao.
You are trying to tell us, O, some people in NTI are very bad, but you are not like that. Then what on earth are you doing there? Can't make it anywhere else is it?
Anyway for the past years in NTI i did learnt something, and if you guys is in for a certain time, you guys would have know too.
Its stupid to say this but i did not joined back because i trust the company in the first place. I researched the whole project for 2 months before starting to introduce to others. Its after all the evidence provided by company and i found myself that let me believe that the project can work. Its not 100% workable but there is possiblity, and i can take the level of risk. Anyway i trust my fren who is in the management of Emcom, thats why i joined back.
And lastly i would like to say again, i am here for discussion not flamming session, but if you are nasty i see no reasons to sit back too. -
Sorry huh..Originally posted by LegacyMan:I left not because i got conned, and everytime i joined back i earned back what i invested, so is the people i bring in.
I left because i do not like the enviroment. Anyway now i joined back because of trust in my fren. Anyway i am not in Jackies or Desmond group, at least we dun work with them.
Frankly i know there is unethical people in NTI, basically in every MLM company, but if you are not working with them then its fine.
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i will like to know for the past two times..
how much u invested..
And aside that u have earn back what u invested..
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i have posted my comments all underlined with a
in the quote below.Originally posted by LegacyMan:I should have replied yesterday, but due to the slow connection, i reply today.
Hi first of all, i did replied to quite a few of your posts, please read through again if you have not.
I have to agree, some investment advice given by you is quite good,
Thanks for your compliments
but regarding emcom's issue i have to disagree. You are just purely using your emotions to make comments, as i said before your news is updated.
kindly refer to the post which i've posted in http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=227768 for more reference on emcom issue. (i did mention why i say emcom isn't as good as it looks at the replies in there - which isn't emotion; it's research)
I too have to agree that some leaders or so called leaders in NTI is talking big, but i would like you to use "some" please, because not everyone is doing the same way. Anyway whether the followers is blind or not is up to you ti determine, you cannot represent their thoughts and feel. Shang Liang Bu Zhen Xia Liang Wai = the top management leaders are already corrupted, and they are the 'leaders' that the rookies/agents of NTI follows. So in this case - is this 'some' or really the some teaching the WHOLE NTI to talk big?
Maybe I'll just correct my words to MOST NTI agents are talking big, for I just recalled that I do know of a polite NTI agent, whom I have met, but that is really 1 out of a 1000 chance that there are still those unpolluted agents, but slowly as those minority agents undergo the trainings, it's just a matter of sooner or later they will change to duplicate what the management leaders are doing.
Once again any enquires or doubts, just shoot and i will try my best to give you the answers as i always had. Corrections - I'm not here to shoot.
I'm here to share and advice people.
To allow those people who to make an Informed Decision with some advice.
Anyway Lau is just giving views in the stand of those people who do not believe, whats wrong with it ? (No Hard Feelings - Just my 2cents worth of thoughts)
Nothing's wrong with it, but he spoke more than the other people, instead of reading those people who have queries or doubts, they can't really express themselves well enough due to over-reactive response from Laurence82 which made me frequently skip/miss some replies which have been posted.
like this reply, i need to look and read it for the 3rd time than i notice your reply. well maybe i'm not that observent. It's just that too much makes me kind of skip here and there..
we need to know 1 thing to focus on - help and solve the new agents/people who are interested in NTI, and not reading a neither interested nor know's the history of NTI. Does a 3rd party know's of a company's history?
it's good that he's here to help, but there's a limit to how much he can help as a 3rd party, since he didn't come in contact with NTI himself. Just Need to DRAW THE LINE CLEARLY.
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No, but i am in contact with people helping ex agents and customers, past and even presently
Its not my job to 'help', but then again, there is no reason not for me to post as long as its logical. What is the big deal about 'i can help, he cannot help' sort of mentality?
Besides, I am sure my posts are too logical to respond to, except by way of flaming. -
If you want know to the exact. My first time is $288 SGD + after that $1187 SGD.Originally posted by spycampers:Sorry huh..
i will like to know for the past two times..
how much u invested..
And aside that u have earn back what u invested..
how much profit u have earn also...
Apparently i sold 3 set of my product and keep 2 set for own usage.
I was earning around 500 SGD every month, not much but at least gain back.
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that's why many of the MLM is doing health product so they can educate ppl n oso making money.Originally posted by the_fallen:proof..
what proof do you want?
proof of people who are being cheated by James Phang, they themselves are shring, it's just that they have not enough Black and White to show.
for most of the black and white was taken into investigation when James Phang was declared brankrupt when NOP closed that time if i didn't get my facts wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
speculations with their prejudice.
if the plan and method is really that good, than why would there still be people who said it isn't good?
a very clear example:
today i tell you what we are eating are junk food, but everyone still eats it.
why don't they want to understand to what everyone of us are eating are junk food?
reason - simple- coz people CHOOSE what they want to hear and know, things and knowledge that they don't like they just avoid.
simple as that.
so why
because many are not facing reality.
anyway, if you think sgforums is a lousy place, than why do you still come?
No Offence Intended, but seriously speaking la, you are contridicting yourself lor.
you say here lousy, yet you still sign up as a member to join us in this lousy place. doesn't make sense.
that's y ppl now cannot take the losing n when they cannot face it they choose to commit suicide...
and doing MLM can train u to face reality and make u a better person.
mayb i'm out of point
just my 2 cents
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Hi every1, this is my 1st post in forum. Padorn me for any mistake made in this post.
1stly, i wish to know how does the official launch of the project in Jan 07 2007 going to help or prove that this project is not a scam? Are they going to announce anything of great importance? (like the progress of project,funds management?) I am really very interested in this investment and I cant really wait till Jan 07.
2ndly, i was told tat Emcom get the right to be the 1st service provider in Taichung. But after seeing some of the posts, i dont know y Proxim Tsunami(TM) get into the picture.
I hope to get some reliable reply soon, even though this is not the really right place.
Took me about 15mins to get this post done.......I guess practice make perfect
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word of advice.Originally posted by NaiveKid:Hi every1, this is my 1st post in forum. Padorn me for any mistake made in this post.
1stly, i wish to know how does the official launch of the project in Jan 07 2007 going to help or prove that this project is not a scam? Are they going to announce anything of great importance? (like the progress of project,funds management?) I am really very interested in this investment and I cant really wait till Jan 07.
2ndly, i was told tat Emcom get the right to be the 1st service provider in Taichung. But after seeing some of the posts, i dont know y Proxim Tsunami(TM) get into the picture.
I hope to get some reliable reply soon, even though this is not the really right place.
Took me about 15mins to get this post done.......I guess practice make perfect
don't be so easily taken in by those Bright Promises that they present to you
It's investment - CASH afterall
what you need to do is to get educated on how to identify if a investment if really worth it, the level of risk involved, the demand and supply, the potential of the investment, how will they handle your money, the rules and regulations before you sign on the paper, do the agent or company RESERVE THE RIGHTS TO AMEND THE POLICY without any notice (be it insurance, property, business, or mlm), how to make a sound decision when it comes to investments.
before you learn all that, don't even think of sinking yourself into a investment, unless you have lots of SPARE CASH (money that can be BURNT without you feelling heart pain over lost of money) -
Thks for ur advice fallen.Originally posted by the_fallen:word of advice.
don't be so easily taken in by those Bright Promises that they present to you
It's investment - CASH afterall
what you need to do is to get educated on how to identify if a investment if really worth it, the level of risk involved, the demand and supply, the potential of the investment, how will they handle your money, the rules and regulations before you sign on the paper, do the agent or company RESERVE THE RIGHTS TO AMEND THE POLICY without any notice (be it insurance, property, business, or mlm), how to make a sound decision when it comes to investments.
before you learn all that, don't even think of sinking yourself into a investment, unless you have lots of SPARE CASH (money that can be BURNT without you feelling heart pain over lost of money)
I did actually invest in this project in phase 3 and i recieved 2 payout. I know this is not going to prove anything, and i have doubt in this project after i start to surf this forum as there are many negative track records for Mr James Phang.
At first, i just invest mainly because my friend recieve his payout from this investment and due to the fact that there is a capital protection plan on it. I was promise tat i will get the 3600 SG dollar under the protection scheme. ( I invested about 2.6k++) I i have a mindset tat even if the project is going to fail, the money i get from the protection scheme is surely way above bank interest.( tats the main reason y i invested)
Doubts start to arise when i manage to persuade my parents to invest in it. My parents agreed to do so. I started to research more about this Emcom project as i do not want their money to go down to waste. Tats when i find many negative comments on this project. I wish tat some1 will explain more about the capital protection plan and y Proxim Tsunami(TM) come into the picture. How does the official launch of the project in Jan 07 2007 going to be of any help?
Sry but i am quite anxious to know about these info. I know i am careless about my 1st investment but now i dont wana drag my parents in this without knowing more.
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ok bro, my apologies. But still I am very confirmed this this project in NTI is not going to last. I really hope you won't kena a forth time. There has to be a limit. Don't waste all your time, money, energy in a place where they treat you as expendable and dont appreciate your efforts at all. There are many reputable and better MLM companies out there. At least you can answer to the people you bring in to the other companies. NTI... sometimes you don't know how to answer to the people you recruit. And its not your fault also.Originally posted by LegacyMan:Anyway if people wants to think like what you say, then i have no choice also ma. Being in sunshine empire is just a sideline, i am doing my own business too. I am only trying to learn thing with my friends.
Anyway for the past years in NTI i did learnt something, and if you guys is in for a certain time, you guys would have know too.
Its stupid to say this but i did not joined back because i trust the company in the first place. I researched the whole project for 2 months before starting to introduce to others. Its after all the evidence provided by company and i found myself that let me believe that the project can work. Its not 100% workable but there is possiblity, and i can take the level of risk. Anyway i trust my fren who is in the management of Emcom, thats why i joined back.
And lastly i would like to say again, i am here for discussion not flamming session, but if you are nasty i see no reasons to sit back too.
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Originally posted by NaiveKid:Thks for ur advice fallen.
I did actually invest in this project in phase 3 and i recieved 2 payout. I know this is not going to prove anything, and i have doubt in this project after i start to surf this forum as there are many negative track records for Mr James Phang.
At first, i just invest mainly because my friend recieve his payout from this investment and due to the fact that there is a capital protection plan on it. I was promise tat i will get the 3600 SG dollar under the protection scheme. ( I invested about 2.6k++) I i have a mindset tat even if the project is going to fail, the money i get from the protection scheme is surely way above bank interest.( tats the main reason y i invested)
Doubts start to arise when i manage to persuade my parents to invest in it. My parents agreed to do so. I started to research more about this Emcom project as i do not want their money to go down to waste. Tats when i find many negative comments on this project. I wish tat some1 will explain more about the capital protection plan and y Proxim Tsunami(TM) come into the picture. How does the official launch of the project in Jan 07 2007 going to be of any help?
Sry but i am quite anxious to know about these info. I know i am careless about my 1st investment but now i dont wana drag my parents in this without knowing more. the money that you will get will only be given to you if the project DOES NOT FAIL. If the project fails, off goes the whole compensation plan with no way of getting back your returns, and James Phang happens to be a smart person in pushing off his responsibilities. Just go read up on the post of his projects and you will see what i mean.
BTW, a leopard doesn't change its' spots. meaning to change, no-matter how many projects James Phang do, he's method of doing a project will not change!
Method in this case means he didn't do enough homework and do the sufficient homework and research before starting a project.
What he looks and salutes at is only towards $$
others factors he doesn't care at all.
Think twice, if not thrice if you want your parents to invest in that.
If you really want your parents to invest in the right investment product, i suggest you refer your parents to Options Trading, that is more creditable at least!! -
note the word usageOriginally posted by wolala:that's why many of the MLM is doing health product so they can educate ppl n oso making money.
that's y ppl now cannot take the losing n when they cannot face it they choose to commit suicide...
and doing MLM can train u to face reality and make u a better person.
mayb i'm out of point
just my 2 cents many like you've said
in fact most of the mlm are dealing with health care products.
but just walk into the different companies, how many companies will actually tell you and educate you on the products when you first STEP INTO the office/company?
most of the companies just showcase the products for 1-2 mins some even less, than without proper explaination of the products with testimonials (as proof) than get carried on with the compensation plan presenation already.
if you want to look for a company who really teaches you what and exactly how a product is able to help people, i can refer to a couple of companies.
the other part of your thoughts WHICH ARE 100% MISLEADING is the part on people who cannot take the losses commit suicide. corrections on that, not many commit suicide, none commited suicide. so far i've not yet heard of any-to-date (if there is any, let me know the details, so i can help spread the word by really sharing and educate people.
mlm helps a person to face up to reality? often if you land into a bad company with a whole complete set of bad leaders, management team, president and products.
than what is the reality that they teach you to face up with?
- don't blindly follow a company - use not only eyes, but use our brain to think and see + observe as well.
there's actually more than you actually know are hidden from you (especially rookies in mlm)
what the public knows are just tip of the ice berg ONLY!!
if you really want to learn the correct set of beliefs and reality, i suggest you stop learning from whatever source that you're learning now, and find a better person/mentor to teach you and guide you along. -
Well everyone is saying this project is a scam and its not a real project just a money game. When Emcom is officially launched in Taichung, at least everyone will know that there is truly such a project and its working good. About the fund and management all that i am not too sure.Originally posted by NaiveKid:Hi every1, this is my 1st post in forum. Padorn me for any mistake made in this post.
1stly, i wish to know how does the official launch of the project in Jan 07 2007 going to help or prove that this project is not a scam? Are they going to announce anything of great importance? (like the progress of project,funds management?) I am really very interested in this investment and I cant really wait till Jan 07.
2ndly, i was told tat Emcom get the right to be the 1st service provider in Taichung. But after seeing some of the posts, i dont know y Proxim Tsunami(TM) get into the picture.
I hope to get some reliable reply soon, even though this is not the really right place.
Took me about 15mins to get this post done.......I guess practice make perfect
Who told you about the 1st service provide ? So far i know we are the current company building the infrastrasture as APTG has not started yet. -
Ya thanks i will surly open my eyes and see what emcom is going.Originally posted by TELESCOPE:ok bro, my apologies. But still I am very confirmed this this project in NTI is not going to last. I really hope you won't kena a forth time. There has to be a limit. Don't waste all your time, money, energy in a place where they treat you as expendable and dont appreciate your efforts at all. There are many reputable and better MLM companies out there. At least you can answer to the people you bring in to the other companies. NTI... sometimes you don't know how to answer to the people you recruit. And its not your fault also.
Just keep your eyes open, bro. -
sry if i misleading any 1 hereOriginally posted by the_fallen:note the word usage many like you've said
in fact most of the mlm are dealing with health care products.
but just walk into the different companies, how many companies will actually tell you and educate you on the products when you first STEP INTO the office/company?
most of the companies just showcase the products for 1-2 mins some even less, than without proper explaination of the products with testimonials (as proof) than get carried on with the compensation plan presenation already.
if you want to look for a company who really teaches you what and exactly how a product is able to help people, i can refer to a couple of companies.
the other part of your thoughts WHICH ARE 100% MISLEADING is the part on people who cannot take the losses commit suicide. corrections on that, not many commit suicide, none commited suicide. so far i've not yet heard of any-to-date (if there is any, let me know the details, so i can help spread the word by really sharing and educate people.
mlm helps a person to face up to reality? often if you land into a bad company with a whole complete set of bad leaders, management team, president and products.
than what is the reality that they teach you to face up with?
- don't blindly follow a company - use not only eyes, but use our brain to think and see + observe as well.
there's actually more than you actually know are hidden from you (especially rookies in mlm)
what the public knows are just tip of the ice berg ONLY!!
if you really want to learn the correct set of beliefs and reality, i suggest you stop learning from whatever source that you're learning now, and find a better person/mentor to teach you and guide you along.
mayb u can list some tips for choosing a MLM company