we're still friends!!!!!!!!!@ least,i not like that enyouth.Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:So... I suppose u guys aren't frenz now? LoL! All cos' of MLM... Really spoils frenships...
It's oso not my cup o tea. In fact, I'm not cut out fer sales, even mainstream kinds like retail...
But being exposed to MLM as my first taste of how sales function, realli puts me off to a further extent, tt I wun even consider other normal sales job...
Yea, it's tt bad...
erm.they're trying 2 know the reason y u are not interested.Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:Huh??? SO!!! AlessandroTan is ur agent, redstone? LOL!!!
Hey Alessandro, I'm fine wif listening to ur biz plans. Budden when we're not interested and u guys start bugging us to stay, tt's hard persuading.
Originally posted by mightylegend:So you registered just to promote your company? Let me challenge you.
i feel alot people seems to scare MLM . MLM = Multi Level Millionaire !
[b]how to see a good company : products must be good .
system must be good / achieveable .
good boss .
good educations .
Products is confirm good , becuz their products have certs , customer testimonials , tested & proven by singapore, if not sure kena sue then will be catch what . but VE never been complain before abt the products .
System - their system is good , becuz i feel its achieveable & alot pple achieve aready , so no doubt abt it . Other MLM is i bring u in , u forever will NOT be Successful than me . BUT VE is diff , i bring you in , u still can be more successful than me .
Educations - their education is damn good , in other words that NON-MLM think is Phyco . right . ?? haha . i feel MLM is a good way to earn income and learn new skills . their education is well done , they teach correct things unlike other companys , anyhow bomb ~
VE is a business , not a Job . i feel a useless in Job , becuz ur like to work for people , and i think is wrong , build ur own business . Example: you see Ang Mo . ?? i seen 1 Angmo buying Rolex Watch . $10.5K . but he doing business , they way he wear .
Now think abt it , do u think working for others can make u earn big bucks . ? if yes then ur wrong , u ask for more , u be fired . haha . in this world , is so straight forward one .
Actually overall it's abt mindset problem , u think Negative things , ur negative , u think positve things , u will be postive .
Singaporean is such a negative minded , i feel ur must start to change ur view . dun view a company which say MLM then ur scared .
i feel the MLM doing wrong thing is SUNSHINE .
Investment Plan ~ if they call u to invest . say NO . u been cheated i dunno .
Venture Era won't cheat people , u invest $ in VE , you get products . unlike other companys , bluff people to join & invest .
beware of that all right . Join Venture Era .
You never try , you never know , how far you can go . create ur own destiny & profile . ok .
Dun be someone like this - Its not my cup of tea or what .
if not ur cup of tea , i give u coffee lor . haha , joking , just try , try try wun die what . they never ask u put money inside .
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Erm.a product can b copied but not its service,rite???Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:Alessandro, I can't see the difference between Enyouth and VE leh? Cos' my experiences wif both companies are equally as nauseating.
Ok la, maybe VE more professional, get our contacts thru ur agents' networks, and allow other agents, who are completely unrelated to us, to do a phonecall recruitment, to catch us off-guard cos' we tink it's a real job offer.
I agree in tis sense, Enyouth is more cunning, cos' they rely on the trust factor of frenships to dupe ppl into listening to their crap. (I swear tt I'm gonna disown tt idiot army fren who duped me)
And u guys haf a nicer office! (Although I dunno how ur new office at Changi looks like...) And Enyouth haf to resort to meeting at a rundown kopitiam under the blistering heat of the afternoon sun. Although the lor mee is quite nice, I'M BLARDY NOT GOING NEAR THERE ANYMORE.
But besides tt... Everything else same leh? From the business plan, right down to the false hopes of being a millionaire, and eventually the hard persuading. Same!
They "pon" you, as in make u feel good. "Manager", biz manager, grp biz manager, senior grp manager, all the fvck.Originally posted by laurence82:They want to make themselves distinct from the 'traditional corporate world' as they call it, but yet do everything to imitate it.
pffft
That's what it's all about. Idolising seniors, and the bosses have almost god-like idolisation status. You should see how EnOld operates. VE still ok from what I see. When the seniors enter a venue, they cheer, clap, scream as if some superstar had came to give a free concert.Originally posted by Shazwi:and sorry to say this but when i went there, i only hear the same phrase over and over again...from the big shots to the newbies....by right if i join they straight away at least tell me what i can do and what theyll do instead of assigning days to meet me...waste my time must go home and come another day...and when i feel like not wanting to continue, they show the cars on that plasma tv...and never even tell me how to target people other than my precious relatives and friends...
and some youngsters so irritating saying "yep!" after their "leader" talk...can write so long just by experiencing it in a few days...good first impression when you see outside ppl wearing ties and all, go in then the hell break loose...prevent me from going out so fast...GAY
LoL GAY! I like ur style!Originally posted by Shazwi:and sorry to say this but when i went there, i only hear the same phrase over and over again...from the big shots to the newbies....by right if i join they straight away at least tell me what i can do and what theyll do instead of assigning days to meet me...waste my time must go home and come another day...and when i feel like not wanting to continue, they show the cars on that plasma tv...and never even tell me how to target people other than my precious relatives and friends...
and some youngsters so irritating saying "yep!" after their "leader" talk...can write so long just by experiencing it in a few days...good first impression when you see outside ppl wearing ties and all, go in then the hell break loose...prevent me from going out so fast...GAY
One must discern the real facts from the false facts. Lots of pyschology.Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:LoL GAY! I like ur style!
I oso had a gd 1st impression. I thot 'wa finally, I can get a job after 1 mth plus of job-finding disappointment'. After my 2 hrs at VE, I'm thanking Heavens and Earth fer giving me the wisdom to siam these ppl.
Well, redstone, they juz wan their agents to feel gd abt themselves. First, they brand u as an 'entrepreneur' and joining them allows u to 'set up ur own business wif flexibility'. Ego boost right?
Secondly, once u hit a certain target of sales, they'll promote u to 'manager'. And while u busy basking in ur false glory of being a manager and having 'kakias' under u, they make u conveniently forget tt 'everyone in the 1st place is equal, as fellow entrepreneurs and businessmen'. Ego boost x2 right?
Any discerning fellow can see the loophole at once. It's only greed and false hopes tt blinds ppl frm noticing the loophole and dedicate their life to MLM.
Originally posted by mightylegend:Ok, what had they taught you?
[b]dun be stupid ,
they taught me alot that u never learn before .
Job = Basic Pay , also = to use ur time & effort to earn money . waste ur youth .
lets see , Basic Pay is good lar , but too security , not good . u ask manager for more pay , they fired u . common sense huh .
i never seen pple have Basic Pay more that $10k per mth . if have , u intro me . that be good .
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i also seen my senior paycheck $10k , i saw it , i believe it .
Business got up & down . i feel Business no basic pay , not secuirty . but that a good thing . turn the table around n see .
Originally posted by mightylegend:They say you're businessmen, and yet they call you their 'managers'?
lets see , business i can grantee u , u do ur best in no regret , u sure success . but then u slack slack . diff case .
i feel business is better thant jobs , tired & been fired .
now tread is alot younger try MLM , some even succeed .
[b]nothing is granutie . u do less u earn less mah , nothing wrong right . ? ?
in work , u work less sure tio fired . hahaa , same de la . [/b]
Originally posted by mightylegend:Omg, when I saw tis line, I almost fell off my chair luffing. 'granutie' LOL!
[b]nothing is granutie . u do less u earn less mah , nothing wrong right . ? ?
in work , u work less sure tio fired . hahaa , same de la . [/b]
That's right. Passion is most importantOriginally posted by MightyFlameboy:redstone, to add on to ur pts, I prefer a job tt doesn't req me to MANIPULATE precious personal relationships, a job tt I ENJOY doing, a job tt showcases my TALENTS or EDUCATION, a job tt enables me to earn wad I DESERVE, instead of being a real dumbo and offering it to STUPID UPLINES by doing nth cept' 'train' u 'how to do sales' when they're equally as clueless.