Niutrend International..believe it or not?
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Only ignorant children are like that. Its this demographic that makes up most of NTI's members what. 20 years old recruit 18 years old downlines. Then 18 years old downlines recruit 16 year old downlines. The whole place is so low class and no standard, like some kind of student day care centre like that. Not like a big company that takes its business seriously at all.Originally posted by laurence82:pls dont bring in other people family or personal issues here hor
So when those kids are in here, They are just disgracing themselves and their parents by showing the whole world they have no upbringing, what. Nothing better to do, insult peoples parents, children, because that is the limit of their intellect. -
Its already an old newsOriginally posted by Otaku Traveler:I Cell, QMax and Singtel won.
No Blue Engine.
Go read ST front page on 11 Oct.
Anyway guys please discuss in a proper way, dun involve any scolding or flaming ~ Do you guys want to know the truth or just lies ? -
Min age in NTI is 18, where got 16 ~Originally posted by TELESCOPE:Only ignorant children are like that. Its this demographic that makes up most of NTI's members what. 20 years old recruit 18 years old downlines. Then 18 years old downlines recruit 16 year old downlines. The whole place is so low class and no standard, like some kind of student day care centre like that. Not like a big company that takes its business seriously at all.
So when those kids are in here, They are just disgracing themselves and their parents by showing the whole world they have no upbringing, what. Nothing better to do, insult peoples parents, children, because that is the limit of their intellect. -
haha nope im not that adeline chen.Originally posted by 1x2x3:adelinechen ???? Are u from VENTURE ERA??? Cos i got a friend also call adeline chen. She brought me to VENTURE ERA a few mths ago... so i wonder is it u???? BUT i dun join ar......
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not very good responses but..well...hoping that they cant think about it themselves..not going to force them to believe in me anyway...Originally posted by the_fallen:have you tried to tell your friends??
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hmmm..if i remember correctly..i think they welcome 16+ students also...Originally posted by LegacyMan:Min age in NTI is 18, where got 16 ~ -
I heard of that too, but they can only join the Enterprise courses in NTI ~ NTI management really need to be tight on this ~Originally posted by adelinechen:hmmm..if i remember correctly..i think they welcome 16+ students also... -
maybe NTI would have really worked without your constant bashing on sgforums
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Its pretty obvious This Telescope is the spastic child's father or father's friend.. Too obvious liao la...
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Contradictory
If nti cannot work with bashing all around, there is no need for MLMers to use cases like Fedex or Bill Gates, coz when they started, they also didnt receive support.
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lawrence.. how come you never have any basis for your answers... or were you too low a level the understand... you sure Bill gates have no support? Pls do some reseach b4 you post. To think you like to bash NTI. Anyway, its thanks to you guys constant bashing that we have Emcom... if not boss won't be so nice to us.. thanks anyway. Just next time post with facts lar. So it will seem more believable..read a few of your posts.. your knowledge in marketing is a little shallow... 24 this year rite? Trying doing a business first bah.. then bash MLM. Even for me.. I find traditional business a challenge.. I made money though.. its just that NTI is more fun. Btw i dun consider myself a network... I'm a business man.. and yes i do have shops and other businesses... just that it's cut throat. So not much fun compared to NTI. In NTI its not for the money... its for funOriginally posted by laurence82:Contradictory
If nti cannot work with bashing all around, there is no need for MLMers to use cases like Fedex or Bill Gates, coz when they started, they also didnt receive support.
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Why dont you ask your fellow MLMers who like to talk about famous people, how they were looked down at before they become successful yada yada? Strange you would ask me this, since these things dont come from me. I think you need to brush up on your marketing knowledge first. It would do you good.Originally posted by Deathlive:lawrence.. how come you never have any basis for your answers... or were you too low a level the understand... you sure Bill gates have no support? Pls do some reseach b4 you post. To think you like to bash NTI. Anyway, its thanks to you guys constant bashing that we have Emcom... if not boss won't be so nice to us.. thanks anyway. Just next time post with facts lar. So it will seem more believable..read a few of your posts.. your knowledge in marketing is a little shallow... 24 this year rite? Trying doing a business first bah.. then bash MLM. Even for me.. I find traditional business a challenge.. I made money though.. its just that NTI is more fun. Btw i dun consider myself a network... I'm a business man.. and yes i do have shops and other businesses... just that it's cut throat. So not much fun compared to NTI. In NTI its not for the money... its for fun
And yes, I understand, NTI is just for fun.
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Dotz join for fun ? Well i know its fun doing networking biz, but money do count ~
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U drive Ferrari? BMW? Merc?Originally posted by Deathlive:lawrence.. how come you never have any basis for your answers... or were you too low a level the understand... you sure Bill gates have no support? Pls do some reseach b4 you post. To think you like to bash NTI. Anyway, its thanks to you guys constant bashing that we have Emcom... if not boss won't be so nice to us.. thanks anyway. Just next time post with facts lar. So it will seem more believable..read a few of your posts.. your knowledge in marketing is a little shallow... 24 this year rite? Trying doing a business first bah.. then bash MLM. Even for me.. I find traditional business a challenge.. I made money though.. its just that NTI is more fun. Btw i dun consider myself a network... I'm a business man.. and yes i do have shops and other businesses... just that it's cut throat. So not much fun compared to NTI. In NTI its not for the money... its for fun -
He got no license. Have to hire a driver to drive for him.Originally posted by dcx:U drive Ferrari? BMW? Merc? -
WOO HOO. MEOW WOOF!!! MEOW WOOF!!!
none can stop me, for i am the king of dogs and cats.
enemies are "niao shi", for their "drops" sting.
our freedom was limited.
additional crap:
NTI = not that impressive
= no talking inside
if there is going to be a word "The" in front of NTI
The N.T.I = The Nin.Com.Poops Trades Independence/
Interview/
International
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!.
FACT TO ALL PEOPLE:
MONEY INVESTED = MONEY NO RETURN
ITS REAL BUSINESS.
THEY TELL YOU WHAT they WANT YOU TO KNOW.
THEY DONT TELL YOU WHAT you WANT TO KNOW.
EVEN IF THEY DO, THEY LIKE TO BEAT ABOUT THE BUSH.
WHAT KIND OF SERVICE MAN, WORST THAN KFC WHOSE CLEANER SPILLED MY LARGE CUP OF COKE WHICH I DRANK HALF-FINISHED, BUT GUESS WHAT, THEY GOT IT REPLACE FOR ME WITH A FULL LARGE CUP OF COKE. ONLY OF CONFLICT TOO. BUT WHICH PLACE DONT HAVE CONFLICT? BUT THATS NOT MY MAIN POINT MAN.
POINT IS NO MONEY RETURN MAN.
IN THE PAST, HAVE BUT NOW NEVER AND FOREVER NEVER.
THEY TELL PEOPLE BASED ON THOSE FACTS AND PEOPLE JOIN, LIKE ME. EVEN IF NOW HAVE, THEY ONLY CARE FOR THOSE super minor money ONES. LIKE MONEY BEING DEPOSITED BUT ACCOUNT HAVEN CREATE YET. ONCE YOUR ACCOUNT IS CREATED AND EVEN IF YOU WANT TO BACK OUT 1MONTH LATER, THEY GO AGAINST YOU LIKE HELL SIA. YOUR FRIENDS WHO JOIN CARES MORE FOR company THAN people. WHERE EVER WE GO, SHOULDNT CUSTOMERS COMES FIRST? SHOULDNT CUSTOMERS BE ALWAYS RIGHT?
MONEY NO RETURN
MONEY NO RETURN
MONEY NO RETURN
THEY DONT GIVE A HELL SHIT ABOUT YOU. THEY JUST WANT YOU TO BE LIKE THEM AND BE THEIR "MONEY TREE", BUT THATS OBVIOUSLY HOW IT WORKS.
THEY DESTROY YOUR PASSION, YOUR DREAMS AND YOUR INTEREST AND LOVE FOR THEY THINGS YOU WANT TO DO IN LIFE. THEY BRAINWASH YOU WITH TONS OF PRESSURE OF THE WORKING WORLD AND THE FUTURE THAT AWAITS ALL STUDENTS. THEIR PURPOSE ARE DESTROYED, FOLLOWED BY THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS. INSTEAD OF WORKING TOWARDS A MORE WORTHY PURPOSE, THEY NOW WORK TOWARDS A PURPOSE KNOWN AS "GIVE ME MORE MONEY!!"
THIS ONLY APPLIES TO EVERYONE IN NTI...EXCEPT
Mr.James and Mr.President, for they are knowledgeable enough. every single negative comments i am typing applies to all people below james and president. of course, there are some good kind souls and really understandings ones below, but i shall not name them. i respect their privacy and reputation.
but im afraid i have to say this, YOUR PEOPLE ARENT TRAINED ENOUGH!!!! you pass them your knowledge but they add sh.it and niao shi to it, to further increase their success. they take advantage of words (every single word) to turn the tables around.
**Respect people who have went through a lot of sufferings and wish that other people are not facing it, but not those who went through a lot and wish to bring it upon to other people**
NOTE: in Life, whatever is bad has always been created or identified by People. so dont blame the name, the problem, the things in life that may harm us (fire, knife,guns,etc), the Idea (V for Vendetta), etc. BLAME IT SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE BLOODY PEOPLE WHO DOES ALL THIS S.H.I.T
P.S: there may be a lot of crap in this post, but pls read again for there are some really hard facts. their nature of business is....
They are always right, and customers are always wrong.. because if they are in the wrong, people wont join them.
THINK PEOPLE THINK!!!! YOU NEED TO THINK. DONT LET THEM DELUDE YOU!!!!!! the brain is yours. your life is yours. THINK THINK THINK!!!! -
oh btw, here are some questions that people shuld ask themselves and to think about before joining a MLM company:
For Students:
Q:do you think you have a lot of time and is it worth it to sarcrifice your comfort zone (consisting of your outings with friends, relatives, personal time, enjoyment, resting, maybe even CCAs or some other commitments you may have)?
Ans:from your point of view, maybe, but once you join, you will find that there are certain things that were not told to you at all. there are going to be quite a lot of meetings (depending on which group you join, as each group have their own way of doing things) and not forgetting the pressure you are getting from your uplines who keep pushing you to make phone calls and other things. hence, i presume (from personal experience = facts) that about nearly 50% of your time is taken up. if you wish to stay clear from them and dont wish to go to the company every day, disobeying their orders to come down for meetings, maybe about 5-10% of your time.
if you are smart enough, you can just join now and wait till your studies are over, come back and see how things are doing. just dont create a bad name for yourself like scolding ppl for lying to you. best to do some research on the company. its the best medicine to helping you solve your doubts and queries. and if they talk to you about not going or reading the Sgforums, which is here obviously, ask yourself, forum contain facts, truths, lies, assumptions, good and bad comments, etc. so, GO READ AND MAKE SENSE by yourself. if you ask them, they are obviously on the company's side. go ask your friends, family, teachers, etc. MLM is a very COMMON word. so you shouldnt have a problem finding somebody who knows a thing or 2 about it.
Q:do you think its safe to join?
Ans:well, its a private limited company and anyone even a child, as long as he/she has evidence against the company, can sue against the company. you may want to double check with Commercial Affairs Department..CAD. its just one of the safety precautions to ensure your safety of joining a company. but even if the company go busted, the members arent affected....thats what i heard. if you want to be HIGHLY SAFE, go study the Business Law. thats the only way. but if you successfully study the whole dman THICK BOOK, you can already become a Lawyer.
Q:is the money worth investing?
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nce you give them your money, you will MOST LIKELY (99%) wont be getting back your cash. next consider how easy to get back your money...by earning? its not like a bank where you invest and you receive interest. i heard from one of my colleagues from NTI, he bought a Gold account, about 2 years ago, which will give him some % of the company's money to him every 3 months. HIAZZZZZZ....well, no more such thing. unless the president wants to start that kind of Plan again. but if it is, do your calculations first. when money is concern, calculations is a MUST!!!
Q:how is the company making money?
Ans: go find out more, you will understand better. its not so simple to elaborate or summarise it into words. in all business, be it mama shop or those at orchard road, business always earn money from people. some dont even have products but offer services like cleaning cars ( that isnt a product) at petrol kiosk. think about it, Business is really Business and NTI is just doing some forms of it. think back to ancient times like how people start to do Trading. then comes the revolution of Money. money is basically being traded for services and products. its just another "product" being traded off. its hard to explain, but if you get what i mean, then you know what i am trying to say. money comes in as because, maybe some ppl feel that there should be a way to calculate how valuable is that something. otherwise, in the Past, you can just make up stories and really promote your stuff ( even pens) to be price at $1000++ instead of just $1. but thats like how many years ago, more than 2000 years ago.
Q: during school days, do you REALLY have time? what about the workload and burden you are caring before. is it heavier now and you are unable to cope with it?
Ans: think about it. you are going to sarcrifice A LOT OF THINGS as its like starting a real business. your business is your responsibility. how well your business do depends on your efforts and time spent on it. quick results happens to people who knows how to get it, but most of the time its because they are smart or lucky, not because they spend TONS OF TIME, otherwise, it wont be a quick result. although when you go there to listen to them talk, you may feel like it isnt a serious business and its just really a simple one and you can back out anytime you want. WRONG!!! the reason why you feel this way is because of the environment they have created in you. im not referring to physical environment. im talking more about the feeling they create in you , to feel that its fun, its easy, its stress-free, own-time own target. but seriously, think about how Business works. its all in your mind. dont let people do the thinking for you. you are the one who makes the last decision, no matter what.
Q: is it easy to get people to join?
Ans: some say yes, some say no. that's just luck. but most importantly, on skills. its not easy, im serious. your network(the people you are going to bring in, including friends) determines the difficulty of your Business. because the main focus is on them. next is all up to you, how skillful or powerful are you to tackle them? do you have what it takes? you can try, but im warning you, if you wish to try...DONT START AN ACCOUNT YET. i know some of those idiotic interviewers will DO THEIR BEST to influence you to start an account. then all their bullshitting crap like " opportunity now/here (they cut the word "nowhere" into 2 words" now here") " and say some stuff like " once you go home, no more liao and i will give this opportunity to somebody else and you wont get it".
***CLEARING THROAT....ERM...IN ACTUAL FACT, you can join anytime you want and it will still make them ....VERY HAPPY. to them, it doesnt make a difference of when you join. its just whether you join or dont join.before i start explaining, you have to understand their business structure and how it works. i know now thay have a lot of Plans, bonus and this and that. to put it simply, if you join now, you just get more returns(money or rewards) than having to join later...BUT, that depends on your efforts on making your own business (account) to have more downlines ( more ppl join you, under your name). so, whether you join now or later, the results are still dependent on your EFFORTS and TIME.
Q: conflicts, problems,etc???
Ans: bound to have. politics is basically conflicts of 2 or more people with different opinions and they both think they are in the right and the other side is wrong. so they start to make trouble for one another, get ppl involve to support their view, etc ,etc ,etc. so, if you wish to avoid them, DO AVOID THEM. at least, you are making your stay there more worthwhile. otherwise your money spent is basically to attend to people's problems. well, i understand some of you just want to help, because you have already treated them as your friends, so you feel that you should help them. WRONG!!!. im not trying to discourage you that you shouldnt help them. BUT, in the Working world, that is how things are done. just do your stuff and focus on nothing else but yourself. dont forget, NTI takes in ANYONE as long as the person is 18 years old. gangsters, bad attitudes assholes, backstabbers, bullshitting cocks, all also accept as long as they join and they keep on wearing their bloody fake happy masks to hide/cover their true intentions. so, you wont be expecting a lot of good souls in there. and not all of them all mature. so you can expect to face all kinds of s.h.i.t.
Q: your dreams, interests, will it be affected?
ans: well, it happens to some people, as they are being over-influenced until their beliefs and interests and dreams are destroyed. depends on your integrity and how strong you are about yourself. normally i would say, no, it doesnt or shouldnt affect. because you can choose to do this business or take it seriously. you can even heck care although you may have just started an account, but that will be a lost and hence, that becomes a pressure and an extra workload for you, as you dont like to feel you have make a lose.
Advice to students:
DONT START AN ACCOUNT YET. always do your homework and research. know more. if you WISH to start an account, never start big. i know some bloody smart asre there will say" START BIG TO MAKE BIG MONEY!!" go to hell!!! ask yourself, has there been any company in this world that straight away start an outlet in every country , which consist of more than 100 countries? HELL NO. nobody would ever dare dream of doing that.....EVER!!! business always start small and if the owner thinks that this kind of busines he/she is doing can be very successful, they start to expand slowly, taking a step at a time, keeping track of their results and performance, and hence, with that results, they conclude whether they should continue to expand or stop at where they are. so, accoding to NTI, the smallest and cheapest account is the Bronze Account. cost about around $500.
so once you have that account, stick with it for about 6 months. ONLY BY THEN, you will truly understand the true nature of this business. but of course, it depends on how willing you are to go and research and ask people and gather more information. if you just start an account , and dont even do nothing about it and heck care the company for 6 months, you will learn nothing. its a Learning Journey and once again, you need Effort and Time. but its worth it. TRUST ME. because, once you understand the true nature of how everything works, you will either BACK OUT or continue doing with more accounts. imagine starting BIG like investing $7k,
(NO KIDDING, ITS A LOT OF MONEY TO A STUDENT, but they keep saying it isnt a big figure in terms of business, like ...The....i dont know??? a project from some corporate company can sum up to how many billions. and having to lose a million is peanuts to them. but seriously speaking. try looking from a different point of view. you have been saving it for how long? with that amount of money, $7k can easily buy all your small desires, even PS3. so just THINK.)
and in the end, after a few months or a period of time, you understand the nature of this business and you want to back out. when you came for the interview or along the way as time passed by, you heard some friends saying you can back out. when you approach your leader, he will tell this and that and you ...CANT have your money back. company eat liao. so always start small. its a gamble or risk to take to start big without knowing exactly what you are doing. its like, i start a simple shop that sells fruits, computer stuff and jewellary, all in one simple small shop. but ask yourself, what exactly are you doing? so, hence, always best to play SAFE. START SMALL!!!
if you can try to fight your way through with a deposit, go ahead. make up stories and bluff your way through like you have tons of financial issues and cant afford to start an account. so you pay a small deposit each time. like $50 every 2 weeks? thats like granting you a grace period 4 months to at least know how things are done in the business. so ..........BE SMART. you are doing things for the sake of yourself and........... the company....is for the company.
Your Life is in your own hands. you decide, you choose. the 1st thoughts arent always right. reflect and think again and again, as many times as you like. there was once i watch Samurai X like 7 times, i learnt different things each time. because, i look out for different things each time i watch and hence, i learn. why should i bother looking at the same thing over and over? unless i really like it, i dont mind.
in the company, they like to say things like " gurantee plus chop!"....when they say "chop", got 2 meanings:
1) you DIE because they CHOP your head
2) a circle with the word "gurantee".
i dont have much advise for adults. because, i myself, i am a student.
If you wish to add on, i will greatly appreaciate it for the help of those who arent hunted down yet. -
Originally posted by adelinechen:I have read some of the topic on NTI, but just want to make sure that this NTI all of you are talking about is the same as Niutrend International.
I personally dont trust this NTI, but a 2 friends of mine have been working under them for sometime.
1 of my friend intro me into this, saying that NTI is giving course on entrepreneur education, which is very interesting and teach her lots of things and so on so for. She ask me to go down and listen to her 'advisor' which will tell me about NTI and so on.
That day when I sat down and listen to her 'advisor', something tell me that this is this not a very good idea. They talk about emcom, sushine empire, e-banking, earn points to go for talks for free, and etc.
When Im asking question like, 'Prove to me that this is not another MLM scam.' my friend or her 'advisor' will reply things like, 'do you think we will rent a place this big and have so many people here just to cheat you $300-$800?'
for the 2hours listening, the more they say the more I doubt about this. but in the end, because of my friend, i sign and pay $20 because I say I didnt have enough money to pay the full amount. [And I didnt plan to pay the full amount anyway..I just treat that the $20 was for movie]
anyway, my friends started to call me to go to NTI and ask me to bring friends down too. But I told her that I cant call my friends down to something that I didnt trust at all. She also ask me to bring my parents down so that when they agree me to this NTI project they will pay full amount, so that she can pass her entrepreneur course.
I started to feel afraid for her, and tell her to give me the website of NTI and their emcom project and the ally for NTI, sushine empire.
Now my friends are tell me to join NTI fully if not I will regret it, and they say they dont want to become rich in the future and only me are far from being rich. I tell them that I will think about it carefully, and I have already make up my mind about not trusting this.
But I wanted to make sure that all this NTI that was talk about here and the NTI that their in so that I can show they some prove. I dont want them to sink farther..
[/url] hi adeline, is my first time to blog in, im here cos, me too, is very concern on my fren, whom recently invested n very active w emcom, so worry for her, scare she wil get conned!! -
Dont worry, she had already been conned. Just make sure you and your other friends dont be conned.Originally posted by dolphin0212: hi adeline, is my first time to blog in, im here cos, me too, is very concern on my fren, whom recently invested n very active w emcom, so worry for her, scare she wil get conned!! -
:Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:Dont worry, she had already been conned. Just make sure you and your other friends dont be conned. she has been calling me to invest, heard now there is a phase three coming again!!......i think will hv nore people died lor -
Guess NTI died?
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I dunno about what all of you think. But I dun see the reasons to why it's not workable (technology wise) if one is paying USD 20(i.e. about S$35++) for your monthly phone and internet billing. But considering the fact the this technology is truely wireless (meaning no underground cables needs to be laid.) and the fact that singapore telecommunication companies are still relying on cables, No wonder the IDA shortlisted bluengine. Coz imagine the amount of unemployments if this technology were to come into s'pore.
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Wah! KNLBACCB!!! Why you all KPKB so much? Why all these CHEE BYE KIA bother how much we earn and how the coy earn, if u all dun invest? KNN la! All shut up yr CHEE BYE mouth which yr CHEE BYE mother gave u!!!! Btw, i got all my returns! Happy?
PS: KNNBCCB!!!! SHUT UP LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
Yeah I know, I'm replying to every thread that this idiot created and indirectly increase the bandwidth of this forum but seriously-Originally posted by D_Teo:Wah! KNLBACCB!!! Why you all KPKB so much? Why all these CHEE BYE KIA bother how much we earn and how the coy earn, if u all dun invest? KNN la! All shut up yr CHEE BYE mouth which yr CHEE BYE mother gave u!!!! Btw, i got all my returns! Happy?
PS: KNNBCCB!!!! SHUT UP LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOES THIS GUY HAVE ANY BRAINS IN THE FIRST PLACE OR NOT? IS MONEY OR MANNERS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU?
In life, it doesnt matter how much money you earn. It matters how you live your life as a human being. Wasting your time away trying to convince everyone whose anti-NTI with vulgarities will only scar you with bad impressions from other people of you.
It will also reflect upon people that NTI and Sunshine Empire are definitely nowhere better. Since their educational programmes only teach people how to scold vulgarities like you, right D_Teo?
Continue lor, D_Teo. Show people how good NTI's motivational programmes are in motivating people to scold vulgarities
Encourage usage of vulgarities? I think NTI is Number One in Singapore. -
I like ur style a lot..Originally posted by D_Teo:Wah! KNLBACCB!!! Why you all KPKB so much? Why all these CHEE BYE KIA bother how much we earn and how the coy earn, if u all dun invest? KNN la! All shut up yr CHEE BYE mouth which yr CHEE BYE mother gave u!!!! Btw, i got all my returns! Happy?
PS: KNNBCCB!!!! SHUT UP LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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See u get BAN.
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cheer.