Niutrend International..believe it or not?
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I realise all these mlm companies are like those model scouting agencies. Give you a chance to be model but you must pay for ur own portfolio. Basically, just another way to make your money. But at the end of the day, you can't blame these companies for taking advantage of human nature..... your desires to be rich and famous. Hate them all you like, but dont blame them for being smarter than you. Want to be better than them? Be smarter, DONT JOIN.
There is this saying, you are who you mix with. Just take a look at the people working in NTI. Are they well educated people? Or just a bunch of ah bengs wearing cheap suits and talking 'big business'? Would you want to be associated with these people? There are 100s of ways to make a living, do you need to join MLM to succeed? NO! Just a bit of your brains. -
I think this statement is wrong, as we can't classified all people NTI is ah being in suits just because of a few right ~Originally posted by leddy:I realise all these mlm companies are like those model scouting agencies. Give you a chance to be model but you must pay for ur own portfolio. Basically, just another way to make your money. But at the end of the day, you can't blame these companies for taking advantage of human nature..... your desires to be rich and famous. Hate them all you like, but dont blame them for being smarter than you. Want to be better than them? Be smarter, DONT JOIN.
There is this saying, you are who you mix with. Just take a look at the people working in NTI. Are they well educated people? Or just a bunch of ah bengs wearing cheap suits and talking 'big business'? Would you want to be associated with these people? There are 100s of ways to make a living, do you need to join MLM to succeed? NO! Just a bit of your brains. -
Why you said its wrong? Its true! All the NTI people are all ah beng in suit! I even know a few managers who still own my friends money and even have financial problem with their own normal life.Originally posted by LegacyMan:I think this statement is wrong, as we can't classified all people NTI is ah being in suits just because of a few right ~ -
KNNBCCB! Wat talking u? Wat ah beng?Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:Why you said its wrong? Its true! All the NTI people are all ah beng in suit! I even know a few managers who still own my friends money and even have financial problem with their own normal life.
Yr father is ah beng n yr mother is ah lian! CHEE BYE KIA! -
See? This is another good example of typical NTI ah beng. Hahaha!Originally posted by D_Teo:KNNBCCB! Wat talking u? Wat ah beng?
Yr father is ah beng n yr mother is ah lian! CHEE BYE KIA! -
KNN! Ha yr mother CHEE BYE! Shut up la!Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:See? This is another good example of typical NTI ah beng. Hahaha! -
Well frankly speaking we don't even know whether he is truly from NTI or just want to further damage NTI reputation ~Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:See? This is another good example of typical NTI ah beng. Hahaha!
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i also went to NTI 1 month before...from what i know from my friend....e photos u all capture is from the outside which is not NTi..is another sister company that sell undergarments...i was shocked that time... AM i right adeline..? lucky i didn't join...! pheww...anyway about the technology wireless..? is it reliable..? it seems a big doubt to me whether to or not..? i agree it might be a scam....but really everyone going into wireless now adays...would JP set up a company to CHEAT everyone $$ then have to close down all his others company..? N realli why must him open a place in shenton way just to cheat everyone $$..? like that return of ROI is low leh...although opening at shenton way can convince more people.. it sound so contridicted...Can anyone answer my question..? -
It's indeed not NTI. I swear by this. NTI is hiding inside. Till somebody from NTI bring you there, you will know. The shops are just the front. They are legal, and truly legal. You can't see NTI from the outside, somebody from inside NTI must bring you in.Originally posted by R_teo82: i also went to NTI 1 month before...from what i know from my friend....e photos u all capture is from the outside which is not NTi..is another sister company that sell undergarments...i was shocked that time... AM i right adeline..? lucky i didn't join...! pheww...anyway about the technology wireless..? is it reliable..? it seems a big doubt to me whether to or not..? i agree it might be a scam....but really everyone going into wireless now adays...would JP set up a company to CHEAT everyone $$ then have to close down all his others company..? N realli why must him open a place in shenton way just to cheat everyone $$..? like that return of ROI is low leh...although opening at shenton way can convince more people.. it sound so contridicted...Can anyone answer my question..?
The wireless rubbish, is not reliable... been tracing this damn company for a long time liao. -
Any evidences for your statements ?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:It's indeed not NTI. I swear by this. NTI is hiding inside. Till somebody from NTI bring you there, you will know. The shops are just the front. They are legal, and truly legal. You can't see NTI from the outside, somebody from inside NTI must bring you in.
The wireless rubbish, is not reliable... been tracing this damn company for a long time liao. -
xiao ma yi is well informed about the IT industry
R Teo pls prove its not nti pics
I find it disturbing people come here just to say something off track
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This argument is very flawed and have been used for the umpteenth time, therefore its moot.Originally posted by R_teo82:i agree it might be a scam....but really everyone going into wireless now adays...would JP set up a company to CHEAT everyone $$ then have to close down all his others company..? N realli why must him open a place in shenton way just to cheat everyone $$..? like that return of ROI is low leh...although opening at shenton way can convince more people.. it sound so contridicted...Can anyone answer my question..?
If you ask your parents generation people who have been scammed by commodities trading scam way back in early 90s, they operate out of Shenton Way area. Posh offices are used to trick older people using the very same statement you used, 'why would anyone who want to cheat spend money operating out of Shenton'
'Poshness' of office do not determine legality of business operations, even for MLM in Singapore there is no authority like Malaysia who can issue licenses to legal MLM companies, so please do not come up with this sort of rubbish to lull people into complacency.
ROI is low? You chaps dont even want to show your finances, so low ROI is merely a statement, eh? -
I agree the ROI is quite low compare to swiss cash ar......Originally posted by laurence82:ROI is low? You chaps dont even want to show your finances, so low ROI is merely a statement, eh?
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adelinechen ???? Are u from VENTURE ERA??? Cos i got a friend also call adeline chen. She brought me to VENTURE ERA a few mths ago... so i wonder is it u???? BUT i dun join ar......Originally posted by adelinechen:I have read some of the topic on NTI, but just want to make sure that this NTI all of you are talking about is the same as Niutrend International.
I personally dont trust this NTI, but a 2 friends of mine have been working under them for sometime.
1 of my friend intro me into this, saying that NTI is giving course on entrepreneur education, which is very interesting and teach her lots of things and so on so for. She ask me to go down and listen to her 'advisor' which will tell me about NTI and so on.
That day when I sat down and listen to her 'advisor', something tell me that this is this not a very good idea. They talk about emcom, sushine empire, e-banking, earn points to go for talks for free, and etc.
When Im asking question like, 'Prove to me that this is not another MLM scam.' my friend or her 'advisor' will reply things like, 'do you think we will rent a place this big and have so many people here just to cheat you $300-$800?'
for the 2hours listening, the more they say the more I doubt about this. but in the end, because of my friend, i sign and pay $20 because I say I didnt have enough money to pay the full amount. [And I didnt plan to pay the full amount anyway..I just treat that the $20 was for movie]
anyway, my friends started to call me to go to NTI and ask me to bring friends down too. But I told her that I cant call my friends down to something that I didnt trust at all. She also ask me to bring my parents down so that when they agree me to this NTI project they will pay full amount, so that she can pass her entrepreneur course.
I started to feel afraid for her, and tell her to give me the website of NTI and their emcom project and the ally for NTI, sushine empire.
Now my friends are tell me to join NTI fully if not I will regret it, and they say they dont want to become rich in the future and only me are far from being rich. I tell them that I will think about it carefully, and I have already make up my mind about not trusting this.
But I wanted to make sure that all this NTI that was talk about here and the NTI that their in so that I can show they some prove. I dont want them to sink farther..
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I wonder is this a tactic tat one mlm company uses it to shoot another mlm company so tat their reputation is spolit in one way or another??????
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Ad hominem argumentOriginally posted by 1x2x3:I wonder is this a tactic tat one mlm company uses it to shoot another mlm company so tat their reputation is spolit in one way or another??????
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The saga continues...
Btw i heard smthing abt tis wireless thing tats supposed to be in taiwan. didn't noe its under JP though.
Anyway... will do sm research on it. Anyone wif any info pls PM me.. Thanks..
Results will be published
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We shall not condamn the basket because of a few bad apples.
Anyway, Is the wireless project good? Heard it wasn't feasible from Eikei, Care to post out for all to see, Thanks -
Any1 from taiwan (whos not bz wif politics) here?
Can help us check out tis thingy?
I'll save sm popcorn 4 u.. not enough get frm ah lau.. -
Wrong! She's a student.Originally posted by 1x2x3:adelinechen ???? Are u from VENTURE ERA??? Cos i got a friend also call adeline chen. She brought me to VENTURE ERA a few mths ago... so i wonder is it u???? BUT i dun join ar......
Evidence? Hard to provide. She's my friend. -
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emcom.net.tw%2FOriginally posted by LegacyMan:Any evidences for your statements ?
Some data about where the website is hosted.Tayee Technology Development Corp
This company don't exist. Google search resultsTEL: 886-4-23110322
Your common spam numbers...
FAX: 86-4-23110242ns1.sslcatacombnetworking.com 67.19.19.243
Now, this website does exist, but the domain doesn't.
s2.sslcatacombnetworking.com 67.18.147.195
http://catacombnetworking.com/
goes to some search engine.Registrar: PCHOME
This is the worst of all. PCHOME is popular among Taiwanese geeks, but they don't do MLM. PCHOME is something like the PC magazines you see in Singapore.
Google search results
From here,Very High Speed Wireless Network - Up to 12mbps above, more than 100 times faster than the current 3G speed of 384kbps
Utterly rubbish for something called wireless. Surf on a 3G network?High Speed Mobile Internet Access – Access to wireless broadband access even when traveling at high speeds of 130km/hr
I don't even know if phones can catch signals just as fast...
Partners page
A search on Blue Engine (Encom's Singapore partner) returned this: http://www.infinetwireless.com/Company/partners
Clicking on the Blue Engine (http://www.blueengine.com/) redirects you to http://www.wideareacorp.com/. No legitimate company would redirect you to some other website.
Their next partner, IBM Taiwan. A search on Encom produced nothing.
http://www.ibm.com/search/?en=utf&v=14&lang=zh&cc=tw&lv=w&q=emcom&x=11&y=9
Now, their FAQ. For a company in Taiwan to market about Singapore, something is wrong.What is ISP?
Their "investors"
ISP stands for Internet Service Provider. SingTel, PacNet, Starhub are the common companies we know that provide ISP service. These companies provide Internet access services to both consumers and corporate customers. Most corporate users use a static IP address and ADSL lines for their business use.
This is the best info I found. A company based in Taiwan actually has a Singapore telephone number! While previous research shows that it is based elsewhere and having a TAIWN number.Sales and Enquires: +65 6221 4701
http://www.emcom.net.tw/investor-relations-gp.html
Customer Service: +65 6220 1078
Fax: +65 6743 6398 look at this full list of investors. Do you really believe there are lots of investors? There aren't. Lots of names repeated. The same people are tricked.
The website has everything but a PRIVACY POLICY.
Even sgForums has one. http://www.sgforums.com/?action=register
Proper, legal companies would have a privacy policy, whether or not they are doing business. I wouldn't explain why a privacy policy is needed.
Next, it is listed in the Singapore's Spam database.
http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php/theplanet.com.spam-support
Their email address is a DEAD one.
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Hmm... Nowaday it very common for student to do mlm ar.... Mayb u and adeline chen are from the same company... that why u are helping her.....Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Wrong! She's a student.
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Ya.. can someone from nti pls stand out and give us more info.... instead of making us guessing here and there?????Originally posted by JZ21:Any1 from taiwan (whos not bz wif politics) here?
Can help us check out tis thingy?
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Originally posted by 1x2x3:Hmm... Nowaday it very common for student to do mlm ar.... Mayb u and adeline chen are from the same company... that why u are helping her.....
I'm not from any company.
My siggy proves who I am. -
Can anyone pls provide us with more info????Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:http://www.emcom.net.tw/investor-relations-gp.html look at this full list of investors. Do you really believe there are lots of investors? There aren't. Lots of names repeated. The same people are tricked.
The website has everything but a PRIVACY POLICY.
Even sgForums has one. http://www.sgforums.com/?action=register
Proper, legal companies would have a privacy policy, whether or not they are doing business. I wouldn't explain why a privacy policy is needed.
Next, it is listed in the Singapore's Spam database.
http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php/theplanet.com.spam-support
Their email address is a DEAD one.
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/mail.ch?domain=enquiries%40emcom.net.tw