Singapreans be warned !! Caution all your friends now.
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I am repeating the message here as I don't know which is the appropriate forum:
Sometime next month, a Company selling the French fragrance products by the name of Lampe Berger will be holding a grand seminar in Sentosa Island to revive their business in Singapore.(note, this time they change the name to SYN(Steven Yeam Network) to give it a fresh start.
They have successfully revived their business in Malaysia targeting on young students and graduates. Recently a few Malaysian newspapers have published complaints by parents about how their children got brainwashed by them and refused to listen from their parents and some even thought of leaving school to go full time in the business. Today's(June 18th) Malaysia China Press have a front page headline news about it. Such news will not affect their business but even helped and motivate their distributors who are all young, naive and rebellious to work harder for it.
They are organising more than 1,000 active young Malaysian agents to come to Singapore together next month to revive their Singapore sales by recruiting younsters. If you have any young adults in your family or young friends, caution them ahead. These are some of their tricks used in recruitment:
a) They will never tell the prospects what products they are selling during the 1st or 2nd business preview. The most they mentioned are "branded goods from France" and the name "LV"
b) They will say products are not important but making money and business is the main aim.
c) A fleet of BMWs and sport cars will be driven and pareked together to impress the prospects.
d) They will remind their prospects NOT to tell anyone else until they have joined and paid up because outsiders will not understand their business and tend to give negative effects.
e) If anyone tell them they heard negative feedback from outsiders or any ex-members who left, they will say, "who should you learn from ? The successful ones like us or those failure ones ?"
f) When it come to the products, they will only boost of their over 100 years history in France but they will not tell you that in US and Europe, they are sold as fragrance and perfumes only(check the websites) at only 1/3 of the prices here and NOT as essential oils or aromatherapy products claimed by them.
g) They will use a lot of their successfuyl members all well dressed in suits to impress their prospects but they will not tell you that out of every 1 successful, at least another 50 have lost their money and left.
h) They will not tell you the products are simply unpractical and troublesome to use. In fact a check in the websites showed the product is even dangerous. An explosion occured and someone in Taiwan got killed. HK TVB news also made a research and condemned them for cheating but their Company defended by telling their members that HK TVBS already "apologised" to them for the mistake and they forgave them.
i) They will also tell you that some of their fragrance bottles are collectors' items and can appreciate like antiques in future. In order to make you believe, they even display a few units for bidding and obviously their insiders and top-earners will jack up the price to make it believable.
j) They will tell you that you can get a refund up to 90% if you decide to return the unsold stock but most people managed to get back less than half because MOST items are not returnable. They will not tell you fully all which items are not refundable. Most people got caught and lost money because of this trap.
k) They even have lawyers and well-known people among them to give business talk so people tend to believe them easily and don't suspect that they have many "hidden" clauses in their contract.
l) Their business plan is designed in a manner to trick you to purchase the stock in someone else's name(for easier promotion) so that when it comes to return and refund, you will not be able to do it conveniently.
m) They will use their top-earner, a Malaysian by the name of Steven Yeam who is mostly based in HK now to act like a god or cult figure so that more people will adore and follow him blindly.
n) Once you joined, they will have many ways to make you pay more money. Even attending their talk or training, you need to pay. They will not tell you when they invite you. Upon arriving or halfway, they will make you pay.
o) They will make some big donation to some place and make a big publicity out of it to gain support and confidence from the public.
p) They use very high figures and discounts to attract you to buy more stock. Up to as much as 40%. Most people find it diffiult to sell off later.
q) They use lies to motivate their members and prospects. Some examples used are: "They will get listed soon in Malaysia""They will get the Singapore government to close Orchard Road for their rally and also loan them 20 helicopters to sentosa Island""They bought some share or joint-venture with Louis Vuitton in France", etc.
They will have a lot of new tricks and tactics to close a deal and those mentioned above are just a few. So do not underestimate them. Please take it seriously and if you have any friends, please e-mail or inform them with this message before they are victimised. Last I heard of, their Singapire office is in Beach Road but they might have changed now.
Please caution everyone and anyone who find this message useful, please help to circulate or link it to other forums.
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hes spamming in chit chat also.
close and ban
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nowadays many MLM companies target young teenagers and students.
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kindly continue in this thread
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=189843 -
BA aims those who are working currently, seems LB has better tactic to brainwash ppl especially those youngsters.
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Yup, do not trust MLM where they like to change their name a lot.
This is prolly due to the bad reputation they had built previously. The drop out rate is obviously a lot, and profit wise is bad. You are earning less than 5% when each product is sold.
Another MLM to take note is NTI. Black sheep of all MLM.
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only for greedy people
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Many news about this Company selling Lampe Berger products in Malaysia.
Here is the latest
:http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2006-06-29&sec=malaysia&art=0629mb90.txt
Their Malaysian days are limited now so they will concentrate in Sinpaore soon. Heard that they are bringng in more than 1000 active Malaysian distributors to Singapore soon (next weekend ?) to hold grand events in Suntec and Sentosa Island.
Better caution all your friends. Don't take it lightly. Lampe Berger in Malaysia has quiet down a few years ago until this guy by the name of Steven Yeam revived the whole Malaysian market by tageting on businessmen 4 years ago and since 2 years ago, they are targeting on school-leavers till now.
They are planning to do the same in Singapore with this coming grand event.
Warn all your friends and family members. -
honestly.Originally posted by Malaysiantraveller:Many news about this Company selling Lampe Berger products in Malaysia.
Here is the latest
:http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2006-06-29&sec=malaysia&art=0629mb90.txt
Their Malaysian days are limited now so they will concentrate in Sinpaore soon. Heard that they are bringng in more than 1000 active Malaysian distributors to Singapore soon (next weekend ?) to hold grand events in Suntec and Sentosa Island.
Better caution all your friends. Don't take it lightly. Lampe Berger in Malaysia has quiet down a few years ago until this guy by the name of Steven Yeam revived the whole Malaysian market by tageting on businessmen 4 years ago and since 2 years ago, they are targeting on school-leavers till now.
They are planning to do the same in Singapore with this coming grand event.
Warn all your friends and family members.
are you doing reverse psychology on us?
why do you have to register so many accounts just for one warning? -
yeah, Malaysia, Taiwan and Japan are known to be Asian MLM haven
its not surprising many aggressive companies come from these countries
besides, Singapore teenagers are really good prey -
this was on Malaysians ChinaPress newspaper a few days ago
Direct saller convinced school leavers to invest in get rich quick sceme
(KL 28th)Some multilevel marketing company salemen using dirty tricks to fool inexperienced school leavers to invest a large sum of money into get rich quick sceme!
The direct saller, for his own purpose to get rich quick, always choose school leavers as prey, trick them to join company, after becoming member, pay a large sum of money to purchase company product for the purpose to build a business.
As a result, a lot of school leavers became members, and borrow money from relatives to invest in the business, after the reality turned out to be different from what they hoped, and discovered that they are unable to have refund back for the money they invested according to the contract they signed, and lost 10s of thousand of ringgit.
2 cousins from cheras, Mr Chong(22, school leaver) and Ms Chong(22, school leaver), after joined a MLM company last october, their upline convined them to pay RM30k to do investment so they can earn big money in short time.
Mr Chong said, he and his cousin paid RM30k each, including RM2000 of member fee to join the company, discovered that their upline is cheating them, and decided to quit the business this March, but unable to take back the money.
He said, after his upline convinced him to become member, always trying to persue him to take more money to do bigger investment, so that they can become rich and drive luxury cars, Mr Chong then brought his family to the company to know more about this business.
He said, his upline told him that after invested the money, and within 6 months discovered that this business is not suitable for him, he can quit and collect back 90% of the investment money.
He said, when he joined as member he signed a contract stating that which products can refund and which cannot, however his upline didnt explain this clearly to him.
He pointed out that when he want to buy products, due to the fact that he dont understant the products his upline has recommended him a list of products, which are all non refundable, and he lost RM14000 due to non refundable products.
Meanwhile, Ms Chong said, she joined the direct sale via her friends, after that she introduced her cousin to join the business too, and when we discovered that our upline is trying to cheat us, and decided to quit, we were informed that our products are non refundable and caused us to lost 90% of our money.
She said, her situation is different from her cousin, when buying the product her mother is helping her to pick most of the refundable products, but her upline is playing dirty tricks, as a result she only able to get refund of RM16000, and lost RM14000.
Chong cousins hope that noone else will be fallen into this trap and complained to MCA cheras.
Wu Xin Yi suggesting consumer department to set law to monitor direct sale company
MCA Cheras, Wu Xin Yi suggesting Consumer Department to monitor direct sale companies to ensure them not using dirty trick to fool their members.
He said, a lot of people complained and say that some direct sale companies using dirty tricks to fool school leavers to invest a huge sum of money into direct sale business, and caused many school leavers to borrow money from relavites, as a result, business failed, and they have a lot of depts.
He said, this is a big blow to school leavers before even they started to work.
He advises families that have any kids who just finished school and go into the scociety to stay alret, so that their kids will not become 'prey' of illegal direct saller.
Today he commended on the 2 school leavers lost RM14000 because they trusted their upline.
He said, these direct sellers using "pay more and earn more" theory to trick school leavers, including university graduates, to achieve their own purpose to get rich quick.
He said, actually, according to 1993 direct sale law, after members joined a direct sale company and wanted to quick, they are able to get refund of member fee.
"However, these 2 victims Mr Chong and Ms Chong not knowing this law and their upline didnt inform them about this law, they missed the opportunity to get their refund."
He said, this 2 cases is mainly due to the direct seller personal problem, and not relevent to the direct sale company, therefore he hope that the direct sale company will monitor thier members carefully and take action on any direct sellers who spoil the company image.
Meanwhile, he said, according to laws, if the Chong cousins want to take back 90% of the invested money, their changes to win the case is very small.
He hoped that gov can change the exsisting direct sale law and pass a stricter law to monitor direct sale activities, to prevent more people fallen as victim -
dittoOriginally posted by orange88:this was on Malaysians ChinaPress newspaper a few days ago
Direct saller convinced school leavers to invest in get rich quick sceme
(KL 28th)Some multilevel marketing company salemen using dirty tricks to fool inexperienced school leavers to invest a large sum of money into get rich quick sceme!
The direct saller, for his own purpose to get rich quick, always choose school leavers as prey, trick them to join company, after becoming member, pay a large sum of money to purchase company product for the purpose to build a business.
As a result, a lot of school leavers became members, and borrow money from relatives to invest in the business, after the reality turned out to be different from what they hoped, and discovered that they are unable to have refund back for the money they invested according to the contract they signed, and lost 10s of thousand of ringgit.
2 cousins from cheras, Mr Chong(22, school leaver) and Ms Chong(22, school leaver), after joined a MLM company last october, their upline convined them to pay RM30k to do investment so they can earn big money in short time.
Mr Chong said, he and his cousin paid RM30k each, including RM2000 of member fee to join the company, discovered that their upline is cheating them, and decided to quit the business this March, but unable to take back the money.
He said, after his upline convinced him to become member, always trying to persue him to take more money to do bigger investment, so that they can become rich and drive luxury cars, Mr Chong then brought his family to the company to know more about this business.
He said, his upline told him that after invested the money, and within 6 months discovered that this business is not suitable for him, he can quit and collect back 90% of the investment money.
He said, when he joined as member he signed a contract stating that which products can refund and which cannot, however his upline didnt explain this clearly to him.
He pointed out that when he want to buy products, due to the fact that he dont understant the products his upline has recommended him a list of products, which are all non refundable, and he lost RM14000 due to non refundable products.
Meanwhile, Ms Chong said, she joined the direct sale via her friends, after that she introduced her cousin to join the business too, and when we discovered that our upline is trying to cheat us, and decided to quit, we were informed that our products are non refundable and caused us to lost 90% of our money.
She said, her situation is different from her cousin, when buying the product her mother is helping her to pick most of the refundable products, but her upline is playing dirty tricks, as a result she only able to get refund of RM16000, and lost RM14000.
Chong cousins hope that noone else will be fallen into this trap and complained to MCA cheras.
Wu Xin Yi suggesting consumer department to set law to monitor direct sale company
MCA Cheras, Wu Xin Yi suggesting Consumer Department to monitor direct sale companies to ensure them not using dirty trick to fool their members.
He said, a lot of people complained and say that some direct sale companies using dirty tricks to fool school leavers to invest a huge sum of money into direct sale business, and caused many school leavers to borrow money from relavites, as a result, business failed, and they have a lot of depts.
He said, this is a big blow to school leavers before even they started to work.
He advises families that have any kids who just finished school and go into the scociety to stay alret, so that their kids will not become 'prey' of illegal direct saller.
Today he commended on the 2 school leavers lost RM14000 because they trusted their upline.
He said, these direct sellers using "pay more and earn more" theory to trick school leavers, including university graduates, to achieve their own purpose to get rich quick.
He said, actually, according to 1993 direct sale law, after members joined a direct sale company and wanted to quick, they are able to get refund of member fee.
"However, these 2 victims Mr Chong and Ms Chong not knowing this law and their upline didnt inform them about this law, they missed the opportunity to get their refund."
He said, this 2 cases is mainly due to the direct seller personal problem, and not relevent to the direct sale company, therefore he hope that the direct sale company will monitor thier members carefully and take action on any direct sellers who spoil the company image.
Meanwhile, he said, according to laws, if the Chong cousins want to take back 90% of the invested money, their changes to win the case is very small.
He hoped that gov can change the exsisting direct sale law and pass a stricter law to monitor direct sale activities, to prevent more people fallen as victim
sad to know there are such company. hang them out to dry 