Venture Era? any sayin abt it
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can see tt u don't like MLM and related stuffs..then why u still here in this whole MLM forum..?Originally posted by mercyfuless.66:its nothing better than other mlm outside like dw,enyouth,nti,coslab blar blar blar is a scam
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Originally posted by jtchong:can see tt u don't like MLM and related stuffs..then why u still here in this whole MLM forum..?
I didn't realise that one must like MLM and related stuffs then can come to this MLM forum... -
ya tat rite,,they claim they r the 1st in s,pore got these stuff,n matteress is gd 4 the watever,,Originally posted by dcx:wu ya bo? SGH, Alexandra, NUH, KK, Mount Eliz, Mount Alveria,Thomson hospital got use bo?
Can heal aids and cancer? If can, i sure go buy 10 mattresses...
well if it really gd,,then the other matteress company would had close down long time??
well also got a group of drag i would say,,alway makin survey,,then cheat them down,,by sayin job interview,cause of shortlisted from somewhere,,gettin our number dun know from some where
well my brother got 1 times being cheated down cause of a job interview then used hard sellin,,tryin a close my brother,,by a name of female manager by huimin,,if i not wrong,,so so so bad,,lucky my brother turn her off,,
can,t close my bro but still tryin 2 use the watever??? ....... oh my god
it the way of closin a deal or askin people 2join?????plz wake your point of doing??
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Why must go office leh, got something to hide ah? cannot tell ppl about it here ah?Originally posted by jtchong:if u interested do drop by the office lor if u wan..
to know and understand abt the products better..how it can help u and ur close ones like how it help my side..
Sorry, but not everyone is a sucker for your mlm techniques. -
if every thing can talk on phone , than there is no such thing as interview liaoOriginally posted by shade343:Why must go office leh, got something to hide ah? cannot tell ppl about it here ah?
Sorry, but not everyone is a sucker for your mlm techniques.
if everything can talk on phone ! superstar no need to go auditon liao can sing on
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,y frez understand u like your company..but tat is not the way u chat wit this guy,,hereOriginally posted by godbowenX2:if every thing can talk on phone , than there is no such thing as interview liao
if everything can talk on phone ! superstar no need to go auditon liao can sing on
phone ! dun be stupid lei
u should say,,
not all thing is so easy 2explain on the phone,,if so easy then wat 4 got job agent shop,,
chill down,,u gonna offended people here,,
i guess ve those manager dun teach u this way rite,,
come on we r all educated people here,,
shade343 dun mean u,,only mean some of those back sheep,,
he mean nothing,,
rem how i told u b4??
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oh i heard tat their matteress come from taiwan instead of usa,,Originally posted by doggytb:only that they selling stuff that nobody has proved it works they say it works
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alot of managers is not earnin..
tat is y they alway wonder around at the lps
they even use "mei"se" 2 close those blur guy lo,, -
if u post a clone alert every time u see a clone..Originally posted by pqr:clone alert !!!
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what abt those +1 ?Originally posted by Ito_^:if u post a clone alert every time u see a clone..
i think it will jam up the server's bandwidth. -
hey hey wat the hell..unless u telling me tat i,m tellin the false stuff of it??Originally posted by Ito_^:if u post a clone alert every time u see a clone..
i think it will jam up the server's bandwidth.
it true anyway??
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It's not an interview leh....it's not an audition leh...Originally posted by godbowenX2:if every thing can talk on phone , than there is no such thing as interview liao
if everything can talk on phone ! superstar no need to go auditon liao can sing on
phone ! dun be stupid lei
What's wrong with describing the specifications and functionality and effects of the mattress online/phone leh?
If a mattress can cost 1k+++, bound there to be a website setup for it for ppl to look at it....
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Ito_^ got ten thousand over post you call him a clone,whaaa...flame war starting from dun know which master cloneOriginally posted by angelgod:hey hey wat the hell..unless u telling me tat i,m tellin the false stuff of it??
it true anyway??
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Wow another flame topic...
Anyway they have 2 main range of products (not sure if 3 type is coming)
1. Magnetic Therapy
This is sold in the form of matress and braclets (i think they have).
Main function is to improve yr blood circulation and they do not claim to CURE anything but it can help prevent diseases.
2.ionic water system
Sold in the form of Water system (heard of Diamond Water?)
But it is not a water purifying system, meaning thatit does not filter away the impurities instead it neutrailse them by adding cal ions (calcium ions) into the water.
Ions is a term commonly heard nowadays from air-cons to air purifier they talk about releasing negative ions... something about helping yr health.
Very hard for my to explain and type everything out here....
They oso have some supplements to help u purge the 'poison' from yr body. Of cos whether u believe or not is up to u. but i just have to say this.
When u do not to believe me when i say that it works, why believe others when they say it does not?? -
Originally posted by Chaofan:
Because others offer a Professional Opinion, either as an insider or as a medical professional or student. Adding calcium ions in copious amounts could result in kidney stones forming. Furthermore SINCE WHEN WAS CALCIUM IONS NEGATIVELY CHARGED?!
Wow another flame topic...
Anyway they have 2 main range of products (not sure if 3 type is coming)
1. Magnetic Therapy
This is sold in the form of matress and braclets (i think they have).
Main function is to improve yr blood circulation and they do not claim to CURE anything but it can help prevent diseases.
2.ionic water system
Sold in the form of Water system (heard of Diamond Water?)
But it is not a water purifying system, meaning thatit does not filter away the impurities instead it neutrailse them by adding cal ions (calcium ions) into the water.
Ions is a term commonly heard nowadays from air-cons to air purifier they talk about releasing negative ions... something about helping yr health.
Very hard for my to explain and type everything out here....
They oso have some supplements to help u purge the 'poison' from yr body. Of cos whether u believe or not is up to u. but i just have to say this.
When u do not to believe me when i say that it works, why believe others when they say it does not??[/b]
Also, when you use magnets doesn't blood POOL at the areas where the magnetic field is strong? How is that supposed to IMPROVE circulation? (Assuming the magnets are powerful enough to attract the extremely small amounts of iron in the blood. (Approx a 1-inch nail worth of iron in your whole body) -
Im just trying to share wat i know about its products. I dun really remember the details of how it works, so what i said is just a rough idea of what they r selling. Anyway if u dun believe me its ok.
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Calcium will NOT cause kidney stones. Only chemical Calcium Tablets will cause kidney stones. Please get your FACTS correct.Originally posted by Eikei:Because others offer a Professional Opinion, either as an insider or as a medical professional or student. Adding calcium ions in copious amounts could result in kidney stones forming. Furthermore SINCE WHEN WAS CALCIUM IONS NEGATIVELY CHARGED?!
Also, when you use magnets doesn't blood POOL at the areas where the magnetic field is strong? How is that supposed to IMPROVE circulation? (Assuming the magnets are powerful enough to attract the extremely small amounts of iron in the blood. (Approx a 1-inch nail worth of iron in your whole body)
By the way, Chaofan did not say Calcium Ion is negatively charged. Did you assume wrongly again?
With regards to how magnetic field can enhance blood circulation, I feel you should go to buy those magnetic therapy book sold in bookstore or you can go to the National Library to read up those medical books for the MOST DETAILED SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION, provided you able to understand.
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Not another clone. Anyway calcium in all forms, especially when taken in high concentrations, is the main constituent of kidney stones. Don't argue with me, I work in the bio/medical field.Originally posted by RichardHu:Calcium will NOT cause kidney stones. Only chemical Calcium Tablets will cause kidney stones. Please get your FACTS correct.
By the way, Chaofan did not say Calcium Ion is negatively charged. Did you assume wrongly again?
With regards to how magnetic field can enhance blood circulation, I feel you should go to buy those magnetic therapy book sold in bookstore or you can go to the National Library to read up those medical books for the MOST DETAILED SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION, provided you able to understand.
Cheers.
I did not assume wrongly. He first talked about calcium then talked about negatively charged ions being good. Therefore he is either rambling a series of disconnected information or he is making a terrible chemistry mistake. Reading carefully is highly important and I'd advise you to do so.
I have read up on magnetic therapy and the findings are sketchy and vague indeed and their "scientific explainations" do not come with conclusive studies that prove the positive effects on health, both systemic and symtomatic. -
I think they still doesn't realised the problem.
If such product is really a miracle, why there aren't any World's Scientist talk or media reporting about it?
Besides VE, no other retailer sells VE products, why? There isn't a market for this obviously. Look, VE product it either a crap or still in its testing phase, how can you trust some testing items so much?
If you are talking about vigra and some crap erection booster, it will be damn obvious an impotent men (I didn't mention Richard ) will choose vigra instead of craps. Just like your products, if I want health I buy vitamins, if I want faster healing I go church.. 
We need something that has visible effect, and nothing something like the "magic rock scam".
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I hope you can show the prove over here rather than make another biased and irresponsible remarks.Originally posted by Eikei:Not another clone. Anyway calcium in all forms, especially when taken in high concentrations, is the main constituent of kidney stones. Don't argue with me, I work in the bio/medical field.
I did not assume wrongly. He first talked about calcium then talked about negatively charged ions being good. Therefore he is either rambling a series of disconnected information or he is making a terrible chemistry mistake. Reading carefully is highly important and I'd advise you to do so.
I have read up on magnetic therapy and the findings are sketchy and vague indeed and their "scientific explainations" do not come with conclusive studies that prove the positive effects on health, both systemic and symtomatic.
Your claim of "Don't argue with me, I work in the bio/medical field." and "Reading carefully is highly important" and "I have read up on magnetic therapy and the findings are sketchy and vague." DID NOT give any scientific prove why the product don't work. I find that you are just being INSINCERE in providing constructive opionions. Perhaps you have some HIDDEN AGENDA behind all these baseless accusation? I don't know but hope is not, thats rather a cowardly act.
If you want to know the proof how the products work, I can pass you those medical books I had for your reference. I'm sincere to meet you and if you want, please drop me a message.
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I feel that you can improve your standards, there's a long way for you to go.Originally posted by MosPosterior:I think they still doesn't realised the problem.
If such product is really a miracle, why there aren't any World's Scientist talk or media reporting about it?
Besides VE, no other retailer sells VE products, why? There isn't a market for this obviously. Look, VE product it either a crap or still in its testing phase, how can you trust some testing items so much?
If you are talking about vigra and some crap erection booster, it will be damn obvious an impotent men (I didn't mention Richard ) will choose vigra instead of craps. Just like your products, if I want health I buy vitamins, if I want faster healing I go church..
We need something that has visible effect, and nothing something like the "magic rock scam".
Cheers.
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Yar..Originally posted by RichardHu:I feel that you can improve your standards, there's a long way for you to go.
Peace.
That's why I am spending my time doing constructive learning than MLMing..
Say, what rights you had to judge people's standard? Unless you had proven me you are better
However, you are doing the reverse.
Peace too.
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I have more medical books in my library than you have VE products at home. Moreover, as I have said again, the burden of proof lies in the company, not the consumer. Get your logic right.
I feel that you came in to the forums highly combative and you should at least show some basic courtesy to engage MOSposterior in a more positive manner than to just dismiss him the way you did. It shows your ignorance and inability to handle matters that you do not comprehend.
It is now apparent to me that you have not learnt anything from VE as you have not learnt how to handle people, manage situations, establish a positive climate for a fruitful debate and to be able to control yourself from embarrassing yourself and your company.
You can now go re-clone and try again. Perhaps your next effort will show some improvement. -
Hmm.. I guess we should meet?
Eikei, in your office k? -
One fella try to recuit me. He said "business proposal".
I outsmarted one guy.
He said "if u kena food poisoning, what will you do?"
Me: "swallow activated carbon tablets"
Fella: "....Gimme face lar, say 'drink water'..."
VE making use of teenage labour to make money. No basic pay.
IF PRDUCTS ARE REALLY SO GOOD, WHY AREN''T THERE ANY RETAILERS CARRYING THEM OUT THERE? -
Haiz.
To the VE and ex-VE people out there, dont bother to reply them anymore. They are only interested in FLAMING WAR.