Anybody heard of Long Far?

• spycampers

  9 Jan 07, 12:15

  Originally posted by D_Teo:

  Long Far FCUK OFF LA!!!!!!!! SUNSHINE EMPIRE RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  Said only..
  NATO club..
  
  today rain lot lot wo.
  no sunshine wo..
  ur empire close shop already???
  
  
• d.o.w

  9 Jan 07, 15:22

  aya, who want to buy, i can sell 30% cheaper then LFI, if you buy in bulk, bought it from LFI less than one month ago.
  
  for one bottle, i sell 20% cheaper.
• D_Teo

  9 Jan 07, 15:50

  Originally posted by TIB744U:
  
  
  [b]STOP FLOODING VULGARITIES IN SGFORUMS THREADS WILL YOU![/b]

  KNNBCCB!!!!!!!!!!! SHUT UP YR CHEE BYE MOUTH AND MIND YR CHEE BYE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• d.o.w

  9 Jan 07, 17:01

  Originally posted by kelvin82:
  [quote]Originally posted by JulianW:
  [b]Aiyoh.... U all ah...
  
  Dun understand the concept of MLM, and it's differences which make it unlike Pyramid then dun anyhow shoot arrow la!
  
  &, Dun understand detox, and try n compare it to just drinking water, or fruit or whatever quack self-invented detox regime, then dun talk cock n slam the product.
  
  Long Far products, like it's core product, the Pai Du Mei Yan Bao is seriously good. It's the ONLY Cheena product that made it to the shelves of Watsons and Guardian.
  
  Ask around your nearest Watsons or Guardian and they'd tell you it sold well.
  
  Top Detox in Hong Kong & China.
  
  Try the product before shooting your mouth off. Within 4 hours it'll work, and within 48 hours, rids over 70% of your body's toxin.
  
  GO AND TRY. (I love it! If you're serious enough, I may be able to arrange for your sampling)
  
  And, all this SHIT about it being some conning thing, and whether it's roots are in Coslab, DO YOU REALLY CARE?
  
  [img]My favorite saying is,
  
  [b]"There's no right or wrong in this world, only what serves or doesn't serve you."[/img]Think hard on that. True or not?
  And, "If what you say doesn't serve, don't say it."
  
  Lastly, before you guys go imagining silly scenarios and construing bad impressions of Longfar because of some errant members who didn't get enough training, MESSAGE or EMAIL me and I will tell you more.
  
  Especially, those who're looking out for their siblings, talk to me about Long Far. Good product, Good pay-scheme, Prompt Payment, Great Training, Great Support system.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Julian
  
  [email protected]
  hp: +6594508159
  
  Originally posted by acidzx:
  
  Yes. I agree the operation is simple....
  But the company is marketing plan conflict your interest as a distributor....
  Having a MLM format and Retail format and using lots of advertising as a selling point to recuit people is just somehow seen wrong...
  The company is in a win-win situation if the MLM perform badly, they still can fall back on the retail side..... can you see the pt... The marketing plan and advertisment is not for you only..... it benifit the image of the products... that can still be sold on the shelf.
  
  This is my one-cent worth of opinion.. But for those who already been actively involve in the company , you will definately will not agree to me. I can understand b/c your mind has a wall that block all other's neg view.
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  Acidzx, I just have to agree with you. In fact I just left LFI. Best thing I ever did. I just got so pissed off by the pay plan being in Malaysian Ringgit. 36-38% payout ain't good enough. No start up incentives for newbies who drag themselves out evening after evening, to earn just $30-50+ for sponsoring someone who invests $1000. Global profit sharing? They're just paying you [later] what's rightfully yours at an earlier time.
  
  Clearly, it is a "company benefits the most" type of MLM.
  
  Anyone want the details can msg me.
  
  Lol you change your mind fast!
  [img]My favorite saying is,
  
  "There's no right or wrong in this world, only what serves or doesn't serve you."[/img]Think hard on that. True or not?
  And, "If what you say doesn't serve, don't say it."
  
  Lastly, before you guys go imagining silly scenarios and construing bad impressions of Longfar because of some errant members who didn't get enough training, MESSAGE or EMAIL me and I will tell you more.
  
  Especially, those who're looking out for their siblings, talk to me about Long Far. Good product, Good pay-scheme, Prompt Payment, Great Training, Great Support system.
  
  1)Firstly i guess you fail in line because you try to recuit people the aggressive way cause you have too much confident that the company can go far but others don't that's why they turn you down.First of all no matter how confident you are people won't trust you as there are too many who fail on mlm and with the bad news about it spreading around.Bad news are always easlier to assorb rather than good news and this are spread by those who fail and when news spread around it will be modify with this and that.
  
  2)Well why is the product been selling well at guardian?cause the market is still big and agents are not sharing and selling as they concentrate on work itself.
  
  3)To be sold at guardian is a good idea cause it where most will buy health product and lots and its gonna be like mac someday as there are ads are been shown on tv,newspaper and lots around nowadays.If you are selling it cheaper where will they go?when they have a need for it where will they go?
  
  4)Is the percentage that important when you can't even sell product that have a trustable brand to go with it?If the company is big oversea and its an mlm product that's not sold anywhere will you be able to sell it well?Normally those who fail didn't sell it well as they are rejected by friends and relatives that are the closest market to them cause they don't even know if it will bring them harm though they know you won't.Thus you will turn to hard selling and you will therefore fail and it will apply to all mlm no matter where you go.Keep it in mind those who failed in mlm industry.[/b]

  still no people order from me, you still dare to said LFI selling cheap. i have gone their training before, they should rename the training program to "how to con your friend and be our slave"
• gpro

  10 Jan 07, 02:22

  Oh .. i didn't know that the product Pai Du Mei Yan Bao is a mlm company. sad.. i been eating the product since during the Zhen Qing(Hk Series) till now getting from guardian. now i know is from mlm company. Thanks.
• junkieyuri

  10 Jan 07, 18:18

  Originally posted by gpro:

  Oh .. i didn't know that the product Pai Du Mei Yan Bao is a mlm company. sad.. i been eating the product since during the Zhen Qing(Hk Series) till now getting from guardian. now i know is from mlm company. Thanks.

  i was just wondering if there is any difference if the product came from an MLM company or if it came from a traditional retailer or distributor? as far as I know, longfar pharmacuetical has been a traditional manufacturing company all this while & if you have been taking the product for a long time, it would imply that you find the product effective & has already established some form of consumer loyalty with the product & indirectly, with the company. I believe MLM has not been legalized in China, & longfar has MLM divisions only in S'pore & M'sia.
  
  let us consider the scenario where MLM will diminish the quality of a product & therefore makes it relatively inferior than before. so if Coke (the cola) has gone the MLM route, will you stop drinking Coke? what about Nokia? start selling off your mobile phone (if it is a Nokia). If your answer is No, then I believe that the same logic should be applied to B&H capsules (at the very least) & any subsequent product launched by LFI (S'pore) or longfar's subsidiary companies.
  
  my point is that MLM is objectively, a way of distributing a company's product or service, not a method of manufacturing, not a method of company management per se. let us not let the stigma associated with MLM in S'pore cloud our judgement.
• junkieyuri

  10 Jan 07, 18:35

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• d.o.w

  10 Jan 07, 19:07

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• d.o.w

  10 Jan 07, 20:13

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• gpro

  11 Jan 07, 01:35

  anyway i still support paidumeiyanbao. cause the product is Good.. cure my internal problem .. Thanks. I also don't care what is his profit or loss. I juz consuming the product and it proves to me is Good.. so. thanks for so many information about the company.
• junkieyuri

  12 Jan 07, 13:45

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• enquiries

  12 Jan 07, 14:33

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  dear gpro
  
  if possible, get your product from a distributor. cheaper price & there's a personal touch to it. this personal touch comes from sharing. everybody is born to share. this movie nice, that stall's food not so nice, etc etc. besides paidumeiyanbao, we have 3 other products currently in our weight management package. why noot give them a try?
  
  if you do not know any distributors, let me know. I can help you find someone who lives near you or I will do it myself if needed.
  
  cheers

  hi,
  
  i'm wondering if i can try out a few free sample of your products?
  
  i'm interested in your products.
  
  
• junkieyuri

  12 Jan 07, 15:43

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• placer

  13 Jan 07, 22:03

  hmm.. but wat makes me wonder is.. y would any1 wanna go all e way to aljunied, sum place ulu not very accessible unless u drive to purchase pdts which are also readily available at guardian & watsons? since guardian n watsons are like littered across spore.. which makes it more convenient.. how to survive frm e sales at lfi at aljunied then?
• junkieyuri

  14 Jan 07, 04:06

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• the_fallen

  14 Jan 07, 17:37

  Originally posted by D_Teo
  My managers told me that all your top guys were under our IP (James Phang) last time, you know? And they r just a group of useless monkeys licking his toes! Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! As for your product, our IP (James Phang) dun wan liao, then all these stupid monkeys got the chances to sell, if not, they have nothing to sell! Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  hai ya.
  
  another typical sour grape family.
  
  fail to eat the sweet grapes than complain say the grapes sour.
  
  your managers told you their top guys from JP?
  If it is, than why would a group of senior eagles leave JP?
  Not 1 not 2, but 100s and maybe more. Who have problem?
  JP got problem or the ex-followers got problem?
  Think about it?
  
  are B&H really that useless or is JP usless to be losing the distributorship of carrying that product?
  
  JP famous for giving excuses one la..
  
  Go ask Mr Dewy from VE - his a very well known person in MLM.
  Disclaimier*: I'm not trying to advertise for Dewy nor VE (i'm also not from VE), just that last time, i've spoke to him before, and he knows his stuff at the back of his hand.
  
  VE leaders are good, but their method of doing mlm isn't that favorable to people coz all doing sales. So just try to go know VE leaders, and that's enough. Don't join - unless you're a Super Gifted SalesMan/SalesWomen
• agnoxis

  17 Jan 07, 03:10

  Honestly, I think the product is decent but the way the marketing is conducted is terrible. I was also pulled to such a talk at Prosper House; over there, some army regular whom I know told me that since he started doing this, he's earned thousands of dollars to pay off his credit card debts and that in a good case scenario, we can easily earn 10k a month.
  
  However, during his explanation, I found out that the Maths just didn't add up to that kinda 5-figure sum so I requested to bring home the piece of paper to further analyze at home. I was rejected immediately, so I already knew what kinda scam this was.
  
  Anyway, I was offered a significantly lower price to join them when I didn't reply to them after 1 week. Suddenly got 50% discount, so become $400+. Haha, honestly even you give it to me at $100, I also won't give a flying shit about it.
  
  Sad to say, a lotta army regular friends have been sucked into this trap. Let me just tell you something: all my friends who entered MLM withdrew from it because they finally realised that it's damn difficult to earn any decent income from this and when your friends start rejecting all your phone calls, you know how socially disasterous you've become.
  
  Anyway, don't you find it so hypocritical that such a large number of the "distributors" smoke when they throw you so much hullabaloo about detox? I feel like just telling them that the first step in detox is to quit that habit. No offence to smokers, I'm one myself too but I still see the stinging irony in this.
  
  Some more funny things about this company:
  
  - I was told during the presentation that ministers endorse this product and Fiona Xie is likely to be the person featured in the TV commercials. Turned out to be Marcus Chin. Haha, Long Far cut budget ah?
  
  - To be honest, their advertisements featuring 2 skimpily-dressed ladies in those magazines is very 80s. I'd expect something more professional from a "top pharmaceutical company".
  
  - People who tried to coerce me 3 months ago into entering this scheme are now cursing and swearing at the system. I guess that says a lot.
  
  My take on all these schemes: they prey on Singaporeans' greed and want-to-get-rich-without-doing-too-much-work mentality. Get real, what makes you think there're so many easy ways to make money? Invest in your education, work on your people skills and grab the right opportunities; these are still the time-tested ways of making a decent living. Not psychoing every single person you know into joining a bogus get-rich-quick scheme.
• junkieyuri

  17 Jan 07, 03:32

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• junkieyuri

  17 Jan 07, 03:40

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• junkieyuri

  17 Jan 07, 03:54

  sorry, double post
• junkieyuri

  17 Jan 07, 03:54

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• agnoxis

  17 Jan 07, 14:56

  OKOK, Long Far associate aka JunkieYuri, I have nothing against Long Far or you. I'm just stating my experience with the company and what I felt.
  
  I have no advertising credentials, so you don't need to bother to get the company to hire me. In any case, I wouldn't want to work for LFI.
  
  Care to share how much you've made since you joined LFI? That is obviously the most effective way to get people to join you. I just found it ludicrous that my promoter claimed he could pay off all his credit card debts after joining the company for 2 months.
• junkieyuri

  17 Jan 07, 15:22

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• sonic_16

  17 Jan 07, 18:16

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  wow, a discount. I do not know that they are allowed to do this. do you care to reveal the name of the person who did this so we can conduct a complete investigation into this matter? we are trying to establish a level playing field to those who are willing to take up this opportunity & by giving such a big reduction off the initial investment, it really is a very serious matter. please do all of us a favour & tell me.
  
  your identify will not be revealed.

  I was also offered a discount. I can't recall the exact amount as it was sometime ago.
  
  But I think it's all bull. That guy (suposely a manager or something, quite high post one, jumped over from coslab bringing along his entire team) when he brought me to your office emphased on "jiao tai shi di" when we step on the specially designed stone area at the main entrance. He says the boss is very strict on company values, we should always be humble and everyone is family here. He then went on about it for 5-10 min before even introdusing the products in the showcase.
  
  There he offered me discount after the presentation. Encouraging me to join under him as he have several "edges" over other teams. WTFish...
• sonic_16

  17 Jan 07, 23:56

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  when you state something, you try to be as objective as possible. when you say things like scam, with nothing to back it up, or pass scarastic remarks like cutting budget, it becomes personal & subjective.
  
  

  This guy who brought me there in aug, claimed that they will put advertisement on TV in sept. He say their edge over other mlm companies are LF will spend money to advertise the product so that its easier for mlmers to sell.
  
  In Nov i msg him "where's your TV ad"? he never reply.
  
  He also showed me a method of how to do the business by just bringing down 3-4 friends and will be able to earn a good amt. Till now had only had one new downline, his gf.
  
  He also show me this guy this guy still in NS, now here working part time, earning already much more then his NS pay.
  
  He also say this guy in insurance, but also working here and is earning much more than what he is earning in insurance.
  
  He say company got high level executives, uni students, grads, corporate managers, ex-mlmers from other companies who after knowing this company, jump and join here.
  
  He say got goh chok tong or somebody specially invite them to establish their mlm business here.
  
  He say fiona xie and marcus chin are embassors for LF, but from what I've heard, Fiona Xie is embassor for some yogurt drink and LF is trying to make a deal with that yogurt drink company and claimed once the deal goes through, fiona will automatically become LF's embassor. (Which is false). Marcus chin is also not an embassor for LF, he is just "paid to advertisement in poster" for their product. It's a one-off thing, not even an official embassor.
  
  And yes, the office is located 10 min from Aljunied MRT, but still at a ulu place. So what if it's 10min from Aljunied MRT? Not many people past by there.
  
  If your company is so great, why do your members have to lie to me to bring me to your office? Why can't they just say something like what other sales people do? example "Hi, I selling panadols, property, cars, insurance, household items, etc...would u be interested to find out more?"