I totally agrees with u bear.Originally posted by the Bear:don't eat vegetarian food.. that stuff will kill you more than anything else.. gluten is pure useless carbohydrate...
find out the nutrition value of everything you eat and eat right..
then eat moderately..
you know the primary food pyramid? that's GOOD stuff.. follow it...
organic food is just a bunch of organically grown stuff.. slightly more nutrients.. that's all..
again, know what you are eating... if you don't really know, find out.. google is your friend
junk food is fine if you take it very rarely...
sugar and salt, slowly decrease it...
you'll be fine.. besides, most people who are already healthy, don't need any of this "detox" things are your body is already doing it well enough
that's another thing people who flog stuff try to hide from you
My frens told me if i want to go on a vegetarian diet, i would have to take health supplements, which I din. Perhaps that's why i fell sick also.Originally posted by the Bear:don't eat vegetarian food.. that stuff will kill you more than anything else.. gluten is pure useless carbohydrate...
find out the nutrition value of everything you eat and eat right..
then eat moderately..
you know the primary food pyramid? that's GOOD stuff.. follow it...
organic food is just a bunch of organically grown stuff.. slightly more nutrients.. that's all..
again, know what you are eating... if you don't really know, find out.. google is your friend
junk food is fine if you take it very rarely...
sugar and salt, slowly decrease it...
you'll be fine.. besides, most people who are already healthy, don't need any of this "detox" things are your body is already doing it well enough
that's another thing people who flog stuff try to hide from you
Originally posted by satoshi86:I total agree with u too. They need to break this vicous cycle to promote better sales enviroment and give ppl the confidence.
Sighz... I thought this bunch of Ex-NOP Directors willl stop after the menace at CosLab. Now they are spoiling the industry with this company...
1) Product. This is a wonderful product, listed in HongKong and all along no problem in HK. In Singapore, it used NOP as the main marketing agent then change to retail and now go back to MLM style. So can this strategy really work for this kind of high-end health product ? Will it go back suddenly to become retail and all this present Networkers are going to suffer especially those who have been doing lots of inventory loading. Product quality is not a problem but the problem lies with this product. ( Which stage of the product life cycle is it at?)
2) Training. What kind of training are this bunch of Leaders going to give. Training materials of JP a decade ago? From what I know, this bunch of people are still imitating NOP style training... I really wonder how can they be better.
3) Compensation Plan. Can this kind of plan still work in Singapore? Once people become par, they are helpless... What kind of era are we in now. This plan, many people are gonna build lots of managers/directors and earn lesser the bigger they build.
4) Direction. Why is'nt this company a Network Marketing company which concentrates on building the marketing channels for itself but is building for the supplier instead. After the channels have been established, this company will become obselete as people will just go straight to the supplier. What kind of assurance can Networkers have??
All those who are really serious about becoming a true blue networker, please review how you are going to survive in this place 3 years later.
Just my 5-cents worth, please dont take all this too seriously. Cheers.
Huh... some tap water very dirty leh lol... joking....Originally posted by browniebaobao:My frens told me if i want to go on a vegetarian diet, i would have to take health supplements, which I din. Perhaps that's why i fell sick also.
Ya I know about the pyramids.. I try to eat more protein and less carbo diet. But then it's so hard to resist yam, potato blah blah... ><"
I dun detox la.. i ever heard Jacelyn Tay say that if u use detox, u are also taking in toxins to detox. It's not benefiting u also lor. The best way to detox is to drink a cup of tap water after u wake up, before brushing ur teeth. I tried before, it works.
HaloOriginally posted by Tell me:long far will be a big hit into singapore market,ride the wave now
we are able to do well in coslab so what you think if we are in long far
Originally posted by JulianW:I admire your recklessness of posting your mobile no. in the forum.. Soon the numbers may be scribbled onto the many public toilet walls in Sg... Instead of Long Far, the callers will be asking for Long Fu*k... Wish you luck friend!
Aiyoh.... U all ah...
Dun understand the concept of MLM, and it's differences which make it unlike Pyramid then dun anyhow shoot arrow la!
&, Dun understand detox, and try n compare it to just drinking water, or fruit or whatever quack self-invented detox regime, then dun talk cock n slam the product.
Long Far products, like it's core product, the Pai Du Mei Yan Bao is seriously good. It's the ONLY Cheena product that made it to the shelves of Watsons and Guardian.
Ask around your nearest Watsons or Guardian and they'd tell you it sold well.
Top Detox in Hong Kong & China.
Try the product before shooting your mouth off. Within 4 hours it'll work, and within 48 hours, rids over 70% of your body's toxin.
GO AND TRY. (I love it! If you're serious enough, I may be able to arrange for your sampling)
And, all this SHIT about it being some conning thing, and whether it's roots are in Coslab, DO YOU REALLY CARE?
My favorite saying is,
[b]"There's no right or wrong in this world, only what serves or doesn't serve you."
Think hard on that. True or not?
And, "If what you say doesn't serve, don't say it."
Lastly, before you guys go imagining silly scenarios and construing bad impressions of Longfar because of some errant members who didn't get enough training, MESSAGE or EMAIL me and I will tell you more.
Especially, those who're looking out for their siblings, talk to me about Long Far. Good product, Good pay-scheme, Prompt Payment, Great Training, Great Support system.
Cheers,
Julian
[email protected]
hp: +6594508159
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aiyo dun scare him like that lah.Originally posted by linchiling:I admire your recklessness of posting your mobile no. in the forum.. Soon the numbers may be scribbled onto the many public toilet walls in Sg... Instead of Long Far, the callers will be asking for Long Fu*k... Wish you luck friend!
Originally posted by JulianW:you are rite is a cheena product also a cheena company so dun be a cock to claim that how good or how big it is...
Aiyoh.... U all ah...
Long Far products, like it's core product, the Pai Du Mei Yan Bao is seriously good. It's the ONLY Cheena product that made it to the shelves of Watsons and Guardian.
Ask around your nearest Watsons or Guardian and they'd tell you it sold well.
Top Detox in Hong Kong & China.
Try the product before shooting your mouth off. Within 4 hours it'll work, and within 48 hours, rids over 70% of your body's toxin.
Lastly, before you guys go imagining silly scenarios and construing bad impressions of Longfar because of some errant members who didn't get enough training, MESSAGE or EMAIL me and I will tell you more.
Especially, those who're looking out for their siblings, talk to me about Long Far. Good product, Good pay-scheme, Prompt Payment, Great Training, Great Support system.
Cheers,
Julian
[email protected]
hp: +6594508159
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is this group that pull people from coslab to long far,so now they are at long far,than this post is your reference about themOriginally posted by diebirdstand:I joined Coslab about 3 months ago. To be frank, my uplines Bryan and Fion painted the best picture to me. I thought I was going to be super rich in a few months time. They promise me that if I follow their foot steps and do what they tell me to, I will succeed. But after a capital investment of $1,300 and now that the new company, Long Far has started. I only manage to make back about $400 from Coslab. I am still losing about $900. Anyway, I think I will do this little write-up and add some fire to the oil.
I belong to a group of youngsters under their network. But what makes me really disappointed was this particular incident. Fion was talking to a Beauty Consultant and she blurred out, “Aiyah, these downlines all idiots one lah, you ask them buy what they also buy.”(In Mandarin) Little did she knows, I just got out of the toilet and was behind her when she call me and all her downlines IDIOTS!!! But I didn’t spread these to my other friends as I believe it would cause dispute within the group.
Anyway, about a week plus ago, I was brought down to Long Far together with some others. And the same thing happen, all the promises sounded so familiarÂ….follow us, work together with usÂ….this company will make more $$$$....we are going regionalÂ…HeyÂ…this sounds like Coslab, just much better. But once bitten twice shy, I wasnÂ’t going to jump into this thing without doing some groundwork.
To be frank, I was a bit tempted. After all, they say this product Pai Du Mei Yuan Bao (PDMYB) sells like hot cakes at pharmacies and WatsonÂ’s. It will be like Coke or Marlboro doing MLM. Sounds tempting doesnÂ’t it??? And that Long Far will be the only company selling the product soon. I did my research and guess what??? I visited 7 different WatsonÂ’s outlets. Spoke with about 12 sales staff there about the PDMYB and the response I got was, PDMYB doesnÂ’t move very well. 1 particular sales staff even ask me to try another brand which was cheaper and more effective as she had tried it herself. Maybe I should get Eddie to switch to this other brand. Therefore itÂ’s no surprise that this product will be taken off the shelves and sold by Long Far only. You trust me on this, these ex-coslab people can sell ice to Eskimos. PDMYB will definitely have a better sales volume with the ex-coslab people than at WatsonÂ’s.
How on earth can PDMYB be compared to Coke and Marlboro when not many people buy it when placed on the shelves??? Bryan and Fion are like people at the top, they probably have the whole network done up already. But what about people like me at the bottom??? I think Steve is going to be the only one who will be driving the Maserati or maybe Eddie will dig some money out of his own company and sponsor a few more Maserati just to prove me wrong. Another thing, what do I want to do with PDMYB??? I just donÂ’t think this product appeals to me or maybe just not yet.
I know the top people like Eddie, Steve, Kevin and Bryan will condemn my little write-up. They will say things likeÂ….Tree Big Gather WindÂ…..unsuccessful person say unsuccessful stuff. But if anyone out there have doubts, please go to any WatsonÂ’s. Spend a few hours there and see if anyone picks up PDMYB. I was at the Bugis Junction outlet from about 6pm to 7.30pm and not a single person bought that stuff. That is peak hour, plenty of human traffic, but the product didnÂ’t even sell 1 during the one and a half hour. So, how can PDMYB be compared to Coke??? Or Marlboro???
I guess itÂ’s a good thing I did my little research, if not I will believe everything they sayÂ….again. Anyway, whatever promises they gave at Coslab, they have broken it. I donÂ’t see why I have to risk another few hundred dollars to believe them again. Maybe under Eddie leadership, the people who join Long Far will make money. But what happens if Eddie decide to go study again??? Or what happens if 2-3 years later, Bryan decided he wants to start a new company, am I suppose to change to a new company again??? Even I think highly of Eddie, everyone makes him sounds like god. So for those at Long Far, do take a bullet for him if necessary. And remember to take a bite out of his every meal in case someone from Coslab wants to poison him.
I hope those who seriously think of staying at Long Far, do go to WatsonÂ’s to check out how well PDMYB sells. I mean Long Far will have other products, but if the main product donÂ’t sell as well as they make it out to be, I have little faith with the rest of the products. It will be stupid to buy all the products and store them at home. I am sure you guys will be familiar with the tons of anti-oxidant we have stored under our bed.
NOP sold PDMYB before it close, then this product is taken to the retails shop. Now itÂ’s back to MLM again. If itÂ’s such a premium product, will it changes from hand to hand? I still have a lot of doubts about Long Far. Since Coslab has already close down, I think I will go back to working for my money.
To all my friends at Long Far, do take my advice and go check out the sales of PDMYB at Watson yourself. Do not listen to whatever your uplines say, they will probably tell you they have checked it out themselves and the sales is good. See with your own eyes, go down to a WatsonÂ’s near you and just ask the sales staff.
And lastly, FionÂ….you are a b-t-h. My friends and I contributed to your income at Coslab and you called us IDIOTS. Hope you take PDMYB and lau sai for 10 hours straight. Just be glad I never tell them what I heard.
take the list of ingredients and search each ingredient... if there are side effects, find out if the stuff mitigates it..Usually, TCM products do not list the full ingredients on the bottles. The formulation is proprietary. Only HSA or FDA (depending on the product of origin) will have the full ingredients. Therefore, one can only have a rough idea of how the product works in concept. But it's not a bad idea ultimately, provided one has the patience and ability to digest all the write-up of each ingredient.
most of all, i see the stuff is used for "detox"... well, scientifically, "detox" is a lot of rubbish... the body detoxes by binding toxins to stuff produced in the liver and kidneys making the stuff water-soluble and you pass it out as urine..
drinking water is the best detox..
politicians are easy marks.. you just make friends with their secretaries and they won't have a clue what they're opening...I'll love to see how our politicians react when they read such an absurd sweeping statement.... simply ridiculous!
$1k will get you 3 bottles (instead of the 6 bottles i was told)Absolutely incorrect, from what i hear. Perhaps was thrown out of the presentation before fully understanding the marketing plan. Dopechic makes it quite clear.
that'll get you a "rebate" of $150 (probably not in cash but in the next 3 bottles you buy)
that 3 bottles of crap just cost your sister $333.33 per bottle!
the next bottles will be $288.33 per bottle!
and remember.. if she goes the MLM route, other people will be conned for the $1000
"how many generations of recruits do i have to have before i get my $1000 back?"The way this question was structured, says pretty much about how much the person asking the question understands and views MLM - an investment. Since treated as an investment, one should leave it into the hands of the professional. Not to mean, leaving it to the manager to sell FOR the prospect, but rather the prospect is involved in the sales process together. That is what makes MLM unique - combining investment and sales together. That is also how MLM sales can afford a higher payout of commission than normal sales, and a higher "interest" from other investment products.
earn a living HONESTLY..Agreed. Like every other industry, there are bad apples. In the civil service, car trade, real estate, insurance, schools, taxi-drivers, cashiers, heck, we even have colleagues we think belong to the nether-regions we wish we can hang them twice with their intestines......
pyramids are illegal because they scam other people...Pyramids are not illegal. They are actually part of the 7 wonders of the world.
so... magic stone conmen okay also coz people "can make up their own minds"?Magic stone conmen not okay. Peiod. The authorities say so. Period.
how do people who scam other people sleep at night?Not sure. But a visit to Changi or Queenstown Remand probably can get you some answers. The scammers are all there, not here. And even if they were, they will be caught real soon.
There are so many ways to make money, I dun see why one has to use unethical means to make money.Agreed. Sooner or later they will be caught. If you meet with any of them, call 999. You might even get nominated for being a good citizen.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=195766Originally posted by browniebaobao:Please comment.