NTI bankrupt?
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2. (1) The definition of "Pyramid selling scheme or arrangement" in section 2 of the Act shall be taken not to include any of the following schemes or arrangements:
c) any scheme or arrangement, or any class of such schemes or arrangements, which satisfies the following terms and conditions;
v) a promoter of the scheme or arrangement shall, in respect of any representation relating to the actual or potential accrual of any benefit under the scheme or arrangement, maintain fair and accurate records of the maximum, minimum, median, average and mode benefits that have accrued to the promoter and participants in the scheme or arrangement, duly audited by an auditor for each financial year; -
yeap, thats the whole thing.
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4 rustyhong n eikei n the others ,,wat the matter wit u people here
hmm u people name sound so nice2me yet 1 2 make a fool out of yourself??
does it really matter 2 u watever happen 2 nti??
so wat if it realy close down or expand big??
do u u get a share or lose money back here
hey tell u wat,,plz wake up your idea here,,
down here is not a children playground 4 u 2 shit ard n plz clear away your shit ,,cause it smell,,
come on u dun even know anything big thing abt it,,so plz stay far far away from here,,
get alife
wat u gonna get from here,,by postin this kinda of shit,,u get $$ or wat??
let me say a thing here,y dun u go post thing like,,,y u r not as rich as mr james phang or mr jackie hoo n the others managers??
only blame people here n there,
did u blame abt yourself,,had u done enough anything back in any network company than sayin shit here??
wat had it done 2u??
u lost$1,$10,$100,$1000,$10000???
it all the effort tat count in this trade,,if u didn,t done enough nor understand this whole trade,,so plz wake up,,
doesn,t it say tat it your own fault,,face it,,touch your heart,
i,m here 2day,,i not scare tat any1 of u here will shot back at me,,
cause all i know is u people here is really veri free,,i had enough of u people here,,tat y i posted here since months back
u people only know how 2 say nti here n there,,
dosen,t it matter u,,???????
so i hope tat 1 of this day u people here dun make it big in any biz wish,,,
y???
cause wat come ard,,goes ard,,
u al r juz like the older days those young babies
u hit me,,i hit u,,
then i dun frezs u,,
so i know u people will sure shot thing back,,
so ??
is tat 4 u people been waitin 4??
come on y dun y u people goes somewhere 2 say something more bigger hmmm like
y cigarette go higher higher price n where by some medical hall is still sellin it??
or
y goverment give u the progress package??
make it big la,,y not on those goverment sector stuff,,
hmm i guess u all r nothing only dare 2 say nti n nti,,
mr james phang fail b4,,yes i was one of the victim,,but i still choose 2 follow him y??
cause i salute him,,
he dare 2 go even higher than some chick choose go other company tat offer higher payout n then say nti is bad or whoever wat so ever
does all this stuff tat u people say can stand up your conscience
once a people even told me tat people can do anything 2me,,but i can,t do anything back because it is below my conscience,,
well my company never teach me 2 do any bad stuff here
i wish u people 2 turn back 2 the shore b4 it 2late,,,stop those greed,,
this trade is 2 help people tat wat nti is al abt
i c tat other company had make it big in other countries but not yet in singapore
y??
cause u little chicks here sayin things here n steal others people dream by your mouths of words??
wat up wit u people??
informer here n there,,dun care wat post u at in all the diff company
plz make it nice n sweet by doing all your effort out then post foolish stuff here
there r still much better thing 4 u older or younger people 2 do than here,,
some still say better place than nti,,,unless u make a better boss,,??hmmm well
STOP ALL THIS ALL I CAN SAY TAT ALL N IT FINAL
2day u might b great at shooting me back here so??
wat is the fact only we nti people know,
we r not push away by u people shit or greed??? -
Its sad that someone still believes so strongly in ideas that are this flawed. Even communists adapt with the times. Its even worse when the English is barely intelligible. I don't usually post long posts and I don't even like posting much at all as I prefer reading, to post less than 100 posts in 4 years must mean something right?
Firstly, I'd like to state that I have not lost any money to NTI so my only wish when the people inside NTI finally realise what they are doing is that they will kindly refund all the money they have made out of the victims and find something more legitimate to do. Also, by posting here, I aim to raise awareness of such schemes and their potential pitfalls.
Secondly, how sure are you I am not as rich as James Phang and Jacky Hoo? Its quite easy to be richer than people who have taken large loans and might or have been made made bankrupt.
You posted a few months back? Why did you only register a few days ago? Cloning isn't a particularly nice thing to do. It is because we understand this "trade" so well that we choose not and advise people not to participate. Are you comparing your company to cigarettes? Well, both are similar in a way that the money you invest goes up in flames but at least cigarettes give you some mental relief. One gives cancer of the body and the other is the stem of a cancer of society.
You accuse us of stealing your dreams. That is precisely what it is. A pipe dream that we are trying to wake you from. Informers? The people that provide us with the info are probably much higher up the pyramid than you are and hence know better than you. Greed festers in you and hence you feel so strongly about NTI as you have not earned back your initial investment and feel that due to this forums, you find difficulty recruiting new members. Interesting note is that you posted 11 $ in your post, perhaps something to do with your subconscious mind seeking catharsis?
It is zealots like you with weird analogies that don't make sense that amuses and amazes me. Go back to school, find a decent career. There aren't shortcuts to life and what you "learnt" in NTI can be learnt in a much more efficient way elsewhere, either in school or when you start working in a decent job. Take a break from NTI and do some research on it yourself. Your own discoveries will astonish you. -
Wish you luck mercyfuless66.
Do NTI have annual report? (sry sry ... NTI not listed company. annual report as in thier financial statement)
Can i have its last 5 years annual report?
I can't view their website, guess my com know *ahem ahem ahem* -
If NTI were such a credible company, it wouldnt hesitate to give refunds would it?
Not drag drag and drag. -
Speak Good English campaign is a failure?
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Firstly, I might not as rich as Jackie Hoo, but im not so stupid to loan so much for other people, at least im not in debts like him. If he bankrupt due to this loan, dont you think that is stupid?Originally posted by mercyfuless66:4 rustyhong n eikei n the others ,,wat the matter wit u people here
hmm u people name sound so nice2me yet 1 2 make a fool out of yourself??
does it really matter 2 u watever happen 2 nti??
so wat if it realy close down or expand big??
do u u get a share or lose money back here
hey tell u wat,,plz wake up your idea here,,
down here is not a children playground 4 u 2 shit ard n plz clear away your shit ,,cause it smell,,
come on u dun even know anything big thing abt it,,so plz stay far far away from here,,
get alife
wat u gonna get from here,,by postin this kinda of shit,,u get $$ or wat??
let me say a thing here,y dun u go post thing like,,,y u r not as rich as mr james phang or mr jackie hoo n the others managers??only blame people here n there,
did u blame abt yourself,,had u done enough anything back in any network company than sayin shit here??
wat had it done 2u??
u lost$1,$10,$100,$1000,$10000???
it all the effort tat count in this trade,,if u didn,t done enough nor understand this whole trade,,so plz wake up,,
doesn,t it say tat it your own fault,,face it,,touch your heart,
i,m here 2day,,i not scare tat any1 of u here will shot back at me,,
cause all i know is u people here is really veri free,,i had enough of u people here,,tat y i posted here since months back
u people only know how 2 say nti here n there,,
dosen,t it matter u,,???????
so i hope tat 1 of this day u people here dun make it big in any biz wish,,,
y???
cause wat come ard,,goes ard,,
u al r juz like the older days those young babies
u hit me,,i hit u,,
then i dun frezs u,,
so i know u people will sure shot thing back,,
so ??
is tat 4 u people been waitin 4??
come on y dun y u people goes somewhere 2 say something more bigger hmmm like
y cigarette go higher higher price n where by some medical hall is still sellin it??
or
y goverment give u the progress package??
make it big la,,y not on those goverment sector stuff,,
hmm i guess u all r nothing only dare 2 say nti n nti,,
mr james phang fail b4,,yes i was one of the victim,,but i still choose 2 follow him y??
cause i salute him,,
he dare 2 go even higher than some chick choose go other company tat offer higher payout n then say nti is bad or whoever wat so ever
does all this stuff tat u people say can stand up your conscience
once a people even told me tat people can do anything 2me,,but i can,t do anything back because it is below my conscience,,
well my company never teach me 2 do any bad stuff here
i wish u people 2 turn back 2 the shore b4 it 2late,,,stop those greed,,
this trade is 2 help people tat wat nti is al abt
i c tat other company had make it big in other countries but not yet in singapore
y??
cause u little chicks here sayin things here n steal others people dream by your mouths of words??
wat up wit u people??
informer here n there,,dun care wat post u at in all the diff company
plz make it nice n sweet by doing all your effort out then post foolish stuff here
there r still much better thing 4 u older or younger people 2 do than here,,
some still say better place than nti,,,unless u make a better boss,,??hmmm well
STOP ALL THIS ALL I CAN SAY TAT ALL N IT FINAL
2day u might b great at shooting me back here so??
wat is the fact only we nti people know,
we r not push away by u people shit or greed???
Secondly, if people left NTI and said NTI is bad, that means its really SUX!!! Why other people left other company (such as Amway, ForeverLiving, Enken and etc), and they dont badmouth their ex-company until so bad? Have you ever asked yourself?
Thirdly, yes!!! we are!!! But are you? Please lah!!! Have you really help your friends who joined you as what you promised?
Fourthly, there are more than 60,000 people in singapore who followed JP last time? So why only a few of you guys follow him, why not the majority? Is it because all of them are stupid and a few of you are smart? If you guys r smart, then y alan mok lose so much money in setting up EPI after believing JP will help him? Why that "Look Smart But Stupid" idiot, Jackie Hoo, being make use to take loan for JP?
Lastly, Ya sure, NTI only teaches you how to con your friend to the company and let your friend being con by your so-called successful managers (earning less than a cleaner)? Isnt that what they teach you?
Greed? Pls lah... In order to earn back your money, you have to recruit your friends as your downlines, and ask them to do the same thing, right? You have to promise them that you will help them to earn back their money, right? Most of you guys joined is because of the marvelous things they told you and the money they showed you thru the plan. Am i right?
One more Question, who is not greedy in this world? If not, why are there so many people queueing up to buy 4D/Toto? Why so many people invest in SGX?
Just for your info, there might be a lot of company make it BIG oversea but not in singapore, but the fact is they still earning a lot of money thru the oversea markets. BUT NTI? Hmmm... BIG in singapore? Going expansion with a bunch of young and naive monkeys?
And yes, please brush up your english!!! -
james phang pok gai liao ah ? haven been reading the news in sgforums, haha.
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JP will not "pok gai", only those idiots who follow him, will "pok gai"!!!Originally posted by chunyong:james phang pok gai liao ah ? haven been reading the news in sgforums, haha. -
Anyone saw that stupid Yuanjie driving that stupid BMW?
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heard that e yuan jie is one of the so called capable BRMs over there... tall and handsome, somemore with the gift of the tongue.. wonder if its true?
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So you are Yuan Jie or his downline I see. U must be upset over the latest defection of one of your most productive arms in your network.
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i was under yuanjie..haha weijian ur name looks damn farmiliar..were u a manager under gary..haha
looks like reallie so much hype even aft i left sia -
once my friend brought me there, at that time i was already thinking if it was pyramid sales but i didnt say much... he said he was introducing a job to me that would earn alot... but didnt want to tell me much, just kept on bugging me to go down. We had another friend, and i asked him if that guy was going down as well, he replied, "Oh he cant make it today, he got a project going on'. I didnt think he was lying and went down.
they asked me to wait for their 'respected' senior... sit must sit properly and off handphone.. waited for a while, a 17-18 year old kid wearing suit and tissot watch came over.. he was talking alot of things which sounded cool but i knew it was all bullshit to make mlm sounds nicer
example (1) you know why bill gates quit harvard can still be so successful? cos he know how to pursue higher learning. here at NTI, we provide you with higher learning. We have courses for you to help you develop your potential
(in other words, courses to brainwash us and 'develop our potential' - join so that they can earn our $. What has it got to do with bill gates - just want to make us think of him because he's so filthy rich)
example (2) we are very nice people. if i can earn, i want to help you earn also.
(talk like they really intent on helping us, but just want us to join so that they can earn from our joining)
actually i was gona sign up cos at that point in time, i hadn't read up much about MLM, but i've just paid my instalments for my stuffs, so didnt had that much cash with me so i told my friend (sadly, not for now hehe) that i would come back the next day.
and he acted very nice. "okay, i'll get back to you.. but remember you are my friend that's why i introduce this to you. you must sign with me faster, then your earnings will be higher.. if other people sign with me, you will be lower down the chain and i really want to help you earn more"
this kind of friend.. know him for so long, still wanted to cheat a newbie in me. MLM destroys friendships and workman professionalism. It promotes laziness in people and induces a mindset in them that they can earn much more when doing nothing as compared to people who works hard and earn peanuts.
Why will I say it destroys friendships? Because I called that other friend of mine the next day and he said he knew what the other friend was doing all along and he had told him he wasnt interested, thats why he didnt go down. And not because he had a project to do.
Imagine a person coming up with such a lie just to get a friend to help him earn. -
Was he a close friend of yours? Did you confront him regarding his little lie?
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i didnt tell him. but i avoided and ignored him after that, till now. he's known about it and initially he smsed me stuffs like, 'its ok if you dont wana join, we can still be gd friends rite'
but c'mon.. if we were gd friends would he have tried to 'lie' to me and made me sign up for that -
He's in a dilemma too... I believe he lied to you because he was "taught" that way, or he too is unsure of what he's doing, lack the confidence... and he feared rejection from you after having being rejected by your friend..Originally posted by chong-ster:i didnt tell him. but i avoided and ignored him after that, till now. he's known about it and initially he smsed me stuffs like, 'its ok if you dont wana join, we can still be gd friends rite'
but c'mon.. if we were gd friends would he have tried to 'lie' to me and made me sign up for that
Yes, he made a mistake but I don't think it's worth breaking your friendship over this.. Maybe he deserves another chance?
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I think you should give him another chance, provided he does not do this again or have some motive as to why he wants to be your friend still. You can also enlighten him about NTI in the process.
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latest news...
alan mok has intention to betray nti and go back to enyouth!!! -
No lah. Its JP betray alan mok. JP asked him to setup EPI and didnt help him when EPI is in financial difficulties.Originally posted by I love BMW:latest news...
alan mok has intention to betray nti and go back to enyouth!!!
Now Alan mok setup a new MLM company on his own. -
Don't you just get so sick of hearing the same old crap?!? Mr A joins company 1, left for greener pastures and join company 2, failed in company 2 and contemplating to go back company 1 or set up own company....... cycle repeats...
Their whole lives revolves around MLM!!!! MLM is their only vehicle to success!!! WTF.... The world world is gonna laugh at you for not succeeding in MLM... because the whole world got nothing better to do.... 
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Nope, I am more tired of another crap.
A join MLM and is under B, B under C.
C push B to find more people, B push A.
A stress and quit MLM, B no downline B quits also.
Next day, C starts recuriting again, suddenly he call me and I curse his parents. The trend ends here.
This is a redundant process and should be eliminated from Singapore.
I guess we should move on and get a life. Is that true? -
I don't understand how some people keep trying to succeed in a system that is doomed to fail.
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Coz there is always another group of people brainwashing them.
There should be 4 groups
1) MLM cohort - worship MLM and presuade people to join.
2) Gullible/Neutral - pressurized and brainwashed by the 1st group. They will branch out into 3 groups
i) collabrate with the 1st group
ii) stay in MLM, have no motive and rot
iii) quitter (still not too late, but a great assortment)
3) Protester - you, him, I, all those who anti MLM, the best.
4) Double face - some MLMers will flame here (regardless their coy or others), but with a motive. They will lure you into their dungeon in a matter of time. However they doubt the truth about MLM too. They will sooner or later developed into split personality.
Just like USA, Russia and China, can you merge them together?