Just wanna let those innocent naive dreamers noe...
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for you're trying very hard to recruit new ppl to join your company and be your downlines by paying a significant sum of money that is so hard to get refunded, i'm also trying very hard to prevent these ppl from being recruited and wasting their hard-earned money...
cheers~
Oh ya...btw, i'm not from sgforums...do not associate sgforums with me...me just make use of sgforums to promote nia....
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hi five. i also promoting anti-mlm awareness. dont wanna see my friends give their money away to scammers.Originally posted by dcx:for you're trying very hard to recruit new ppl to join your company and be your downlines by paying a significant sum of money that is so hard to get refunded, i'm also trying very hard to prevent these ppl from being recruited and wasting their hard-earned money...
cheers~
Oh ya...btw, i'm not from sgforums...do not associate sgforums with me...me just make use of sgforums to promote nia.... -
Originally posted by lousyboiboi:hi five. i also promoting anti-mlm awareness. dont wanna see my friends give their money away to scammers.
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Some MLM companies are not scams if you look at it in another way. If you ever want to go into mlm, remember to check on the company background and other necessary issues before commiting. Do not just listen to your friend.
Personal opinion is that I do see people who earns a lot through MLM. Yes no doubt some people do not earn from it and they pay out a lot, but that's because they only think of fast money and that is a dead trap.
A lot of mlm promoters, keeps asking you to get friends to join...but that's not the right way. In the end you will result in losing your friend. Forcing is not the right way to do MLM, even business.
I am not afraid to admit, i have a lot of friends who are in mlm, they are earning, though not big bucks but still its money. I even have relatives who are in mlm lines, amway, bel'air, NTI, NOP, omegar trend, perfect...etc. They are earning. They have been trying to convince me to join but when I dun, they never force me.
What I feel is how you treat people in this line, whether forceful or lienient, it all bores down to your attitude and thinking.
Of course, I know that there are companies that are scam but why join that company when you feel that its a scam. Hm....maybe we should start a topic on different kinds of mlm structure and than we can all discuss abt it
? Ideas?
Rgds & Cheerz
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This post does not support nor put down MLM/ Network Marketing. It just presents a ‘good and bad’ viewpoint analysis.
There are many people out there who have a bad impression of MLM. Perhaps they have had bad experiences or known someone who did not succeed. However, there are always at least two sides to a story. That viewpoint is just the negative viewpoint. It is also true that there are people who have made money and become successful through MLM.
If MLM was as bad as some people put it, why was it legalized? That is a thinking point. If it was just get-rich-quick scams, it would never have been legalized. (Network Marketing was legalized in 2000 after years of being banned. Pyramid-Selling- a type of scam- however, is banned.)
Network marketing is being taught in universities across America. If network marketing was just a scam, why would universities have such a course?
Another interesting thing that I have come across is hear people blatantly say that the structure of MLM is a terrible scam contraption. If those people would just open their eyes, they would realise the biggest ‘scam’ in the world, would then be all around them- left, right and center. After all, a corporation is in a pyramid shape. In a corporation, the structure is of a pyramid, with the employees below and the CEO sitting right at the top. So then, what exactly is wrong with a pyramid? (By the way, the pyramid is also known to be the most stable structure in the world.)
In all industries, there are ‘good’ companies, and ‘bad’ companies. For example, if you bought a defective bag, would it mean that you would never buy a bag ever again? It is nonsensical to even think of. This is what is happening now. People are getting cheated by scam companies, and some of them have even started to be anti-MLM advocates.
The natural human instinct is to keep away from things that we donÂ’t know without actually understanding what it is. Instead of putting down an entire industry, perhaps effort should be made to find out if we were erroneous in our thinking. Remember, in some parts of the world, the tomato was originally perceived to be poisonous. This is just another case of perceived poison. It is unfortunate that the MLM industry has had its reputation tarnished, and that an entire industry is black-listed just because of a few rotten apples.
It is true that there are scam companies and evil people who want to make a quick buck out of those who have no idea what MLM is all about. These scams which disgrace the industry should instead serve as a warning to us to be more wary, and not to get cheated so easily. After all, it takes two hands to clap and; no one can make us do anything we do not want to. People, who got cheated, made the decision to get cheated. Obviously I expect backlash for the previous sentence, but I know that it is the wise few who see the meaning in it that will stand to benefit.
An important point to note that if you were to go into any type of business, not just MLM, the company you go into should:
• Have a good track record
• Is reputable
• Should have been around for at least some time
• And most importantly, you should FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMPANY
For MLM, you should also realise that is NEITHER quick NOR easy money. It might help you to earn more quickly or more easily, but it cannot be confused with quick and easy money. In every endeavour we set out to accomplish, we need effort, perseverance, and other qualities- This applies to MLM too. Many people join and expect instant results, and when they donÂ’t get that, they quit and brand it as a scam straightaway. This is extremely unfair and flawed thinking on their part.
If you were to come across any company saying that it is a quick and easy way to make money, I would indeed be very suspicious. Also, ask many questions, but ask the right people. After all, you donÂ’t ask a flight stewardess how to fly an airplane right?
Have you ever asked someone for their opinion on MLM, and they went, “Oh don’t go into that! My auntie/uncle/auntie’s uncle/ uncle’s auntie/ friend’s uncle/friend’s auntie/ friend’s friend/ friend’s friend’s friend’s friend/ etc got cheated!”
Did you ask that person what actually happened to his or her auntie/uncle/auntieÂ’s uncle/ uncleÂ’s auntie/ friendÂ’s uncle/friendÂ’s auntie/ friendÂ’s friend/ friendÂ’s friendÂ’s friendÂ’s friend/ etc?
More often then not the answer would be, “Oh, come to think of it, I don’t know. I only know they got cheated.” If I may say this, everyone’s definition of a certain something might be different. Two chicken wings might be a lot of food to me, but it might be just an appetizer to someone else. My point here is: what is the definition of ‘cheated’?
Did that person try his hand at MLM, but failed, or did he get cheated by scam companies? To those who have been conned, perhaps you would feel strongly against the idea from earlier that ‘you made the decision to get cheated.’
I would like you to know that I strongly sympathize with you and your situation. Even so, I urge you to look at what has happened from a neutral perspective, and to treat it as a learning experience. After all, you learnt to ride a bike by falling down; not just by doing everything right the first time.
"Money can always be earned again; but life is so much more than that." -
haha...all i know and understand is that a true MLM company dont goes around recruiting people to sell their "products"/"plans". to "youngsters"[17~26++++yrs old].
MLM --> Multi Level Marketing
MLM, to me, it's a marketing plan for employees in the company...it does not represents a company...neither does the company goes around "crazily" recruiting people.....yes..company recruits people as "employees"....but just look at some of these infamous companies, NTI, EY,BA,etc...
If one is making 5digits figure salary per month, would he/he goes around recruiting people(friends) to join his/her company to share his/her profit? Or goes around boasting n showing off his/her paycheck of 5digits figures? If really earning 5-digits salary, i should be seeing hundreds or perphaps thousands of MLMers driving at least a normal decent 1.6litre car...(Let's not even talk about BMW or MERC..) -
R ur family rich? Do u know wat ur parent gone thru, blooded, sweated to work till 30++ or more yrs. For god sake, it hard-earned money! Hv u gine thru tos hard times.Originally posted by brochow:This post does not support nor put down MLM/ Network Marketing. It just presents a ‘good and bad’ viewpoint analysis.
There are many people out there who have a bad impression of MLM. Perhaps they have had bad experiences or known someone who did not succeed. However, there are always at least two sides to a story. That viewpoint is just the negative viewpoint. It is also true that there are people who have made money and become successful through MLM.
If MLM was as bad as some people put it, why was it legalized? That is a thinking point. If it was just get-rich-quick scams, it would never have been legalized. (Network Marketing was legalized in 2000 after years of being banned. Pyramid-Selling- a type of scam- however, is banned.)
Network marketing is being taught in universities across America. If network marketing was just a scam, why would universities have such a course?
Another interesting thing that I have come across is hear people blatantly say that the structure of MLM is a terrible scam contraption. If those people would just open their eyes, they would realise the biggest ‘scam’ in the world, would then be all around them- left, right and center. After all, a corporation is in a pyramid shape. In a corporation, the structure is of a pyramid, with the employees below and the CEO sitting right at the top. So then, what exactly is wrong with a pyramid? (By the way, the pyramid is also known to be the most stable structure in the world.)
In all industries, there are ‘good’ companies, and ‘bad’ companies. For example, if you bought a defective bag, would it mean that you would never buy a bag ever again? It is nonsensical to even think of. This is what is happening now. People are getting cheated by scam companies, and some of them have even started to be anti-MLM advocates.
The natural human instinct is to keep away from things that we donÂ’t know without actually understanding what it is. Instead of putting down an entire industry, perhaps effort should be made to find out if we were erroneous in our thinking. Remember, in some parts of the world, the tomato was originally perceived to be poisonous. This is just another case of perceived poison. It is unfortunate that the MLM industry has had its reputation tarnished, and that an entire industry is black-listed just because of a few rotten apples.
It is true that there are scam companies and evil people who want to make a quick buck out of those who have no idea what MLM is all about. These scams which disgrace the industry should instead serve as a warning to us to be more wary, and not to get cheated so easily. After all, it takes two hands to clap and; no one can make us do anything we do not want to. People, who got cheated, made the decision to get cheated. Obviously I expect backlash for the previous sentence, but I know that it is the wise few who see the meaning in it that will stand to benefit.
An important point to note that if you were to go into any type of business, not just MLM, the company you go into should:
• Have a good track record
• Is reputable
• Should have been around for at least some time
• And most importantly, you should FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMPANY
For MLM, you should also realise that is NEITHER quick NOR easy money. It might help you to earn more quickly or more easily, but it cannot be confused with quick and easy money. In every endeavour we set out to accomplish, we need effort, perseverance, and other qualities- This applies to MLM too. Many people join and expect instant results, and when they donÂ’t get that, they quit and brand it as a scam straightaway. This is extremely unfair and flawed thinking on their part.
If you were to come across any company saying that it is a quick and easy way to make money, I would indeed be very suspicious. Also, ask many questions, but ask the right people. After all, you donÂ’t ask a flight stewardess how to fly an airplane right?
Have you ever asked someone for their opinion on MLM, and they went, “Oh don’t go into that! My auntie/uncle/auntie’s uncle/ uncle’s auntie/ friend’s uncle/friend’s auntie/ friend’s friend/ friend’s friend’s friend’s friend/ etc got cheated!”
Did you ask that person what actually happened to his or her auntie/uncle/auntieÂ’s uncle/ uncleÂ’s auntie/ friendÂ’s uncle/friendÂ’s auntie/ friendÂ’s friend/ friendÂ’s friendÂ’s friendÂ’s friend/ etc?
More often then not the answer would be, “Oh, come to think of it, I don’t know. I only know they got cheated.” If I may say this, everyone’s definition of a certain something might be different. Two chicken wings might be a lot of food to me, but it might be just an appetizer to someone else. My point here is: what is the definition of ‘cheated’?
Did that person try his hand at MLM, but failed, or did he get cheated by scam companies? To those who have been conned, perhaps you would feel strongly against the idea from earlier that ‘you made the decision to get cheated.’
I would like you to know that I strongly sympathize with you and your situation. Even so, I urge you to look at what has happened from a neutral perspective, and to treat it as a learning experience. After all, you learnt to ride a bike by falling down; not just by doing everything right the first time.
"Money can always be earned again; but life is so much more than that."
Since u said money can be earn back then no point to join MLM as biz to earn e money, tos dreamers can jus go to work, to earn as much money tat they think can earn back!
Life is really more than tat, money, materialistic. If u dun have parent love, u'll e saddest person in earth.
Wat is life or value? $, luv, statues? If one day ur loved one disappeared 4ever fm u, u'll regret tat u do not hv spent enough times wit them. -
wah seh.......
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bo lar sarport my ah dee
i come sarport -
ya lah......an zua gong???!!!!~~~~Originally posted by laurence82:bo lar sarport my ah dee
i come sarport
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Lol, free bumpz~
I am supporting too
Oh well, still remember doublecrossagent? maybe you will just get threaten like that poor fellow received...
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siang lai eh?Originally posted by MosPyramid:Lol, free bumpz~
I am supporting too
Oh well, still remember doublecrossagent? maybe you will just get threaten like that poor fellow received...
double dragons i know very well.... -
Oooo.. he is just some poor chap, a ex-NTIer.
Desmond said wanted to sue him, but at the end said can't bear to? Lol...
Learn from his mistake, he exposed too much dark secret from NTI, therefore he gets threatened.
We need to post light secret of NTI instead -
i am not trying to say bad things about MLM, there may be some good MLM out there i dont know. But i want to share some simple ideas.
One simple thing, if you have something very good, like can earn money very fast, will you go and let other ppl have the chance to earn it? you will earn it yourself, right? So when ppl come and tell you to join, telling that you can earn money fast and easy, you just stop and think, why? why he ask you to join if it's easy money that he can earn it? Why does he need you?? Why dont he earn the money himself.
The ugly human nature is, we make use of each other. Is someone making use of you?? When i look for you and ask you to join, there must be some reason behind, why i need to ask you to join? Because i need to make use of you, i want you to join, so that i earn more. If i really have something that can sure earn fast and easy money, i would earn it myself, i would not look for you at all. Right?
The very simple idea to prevent being conned, is "pian yi mo tan"(dont be greedy). In most con tricks, they will give something to lure you, if you are not greedy, you wont be tricked. If you are greedy, think that you can earn easy money, there goes your moeny.
Make the decision yourself, but before you join, put yourself in the shoes of the one who ask you to join, find out why he ask you to join first. Dont be blinded by the idea of easy money. -
We need to start a MLM awareness alliance. This sort of issues actually come under a term called CSR or Corporate Social Responsibility and it covers retailing and franchising ethics which some companies blantantly ignore. While some problems with the MLM industry are not illegal per se, they are definitely unethical and this is where we need to promote ethical responsibility for such errant companies.
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""""We need to start a MLM awareness alliance. This sort of issues actually come under a term called CSR or Corporate Social Responsibility and it covers retailing and franchising ethics which some companies blantantly ignore. While some problems with the MLM industry are not illegal per se, they are definitely unethical and this is where we need to promote ethical responsibility for such errant companies."""
You can save the praises for me later but after much thinking, I have invented and discovered a most brilliant way how we can spread this awareness of MLM around really fast and effective...
Let's each tell five of our friends who will tell five of their own friends who will tell another five of theirs who will tell... -
Originally posted by lution:""""We need to start a MLM awareness alliance. This sort of issues actually come under a term called CSR or Corporate Social Responsibility and it covers retailing and franchising ethics which some companies blantantly ignore. While some problems with the MLM industry are not illegal per se, they are definitely unethical and this is where we need to promote ethical responsibility for such errant companies."""
You can save the praises for me later but after much thinking, I have invented and discovered a most brilliant way how we can spread this awareness of MLM around really fast and effective...
Let's each tell five of our friends who will tell five of their own friends who will tell another five of theirs who will tell...
Wu Jian Dao????
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You've got it! Own Game.
Haha!
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I'm game for it, but there really isn't much of a way to track people who know and worst of all, there are some people who might get the wrong message and spread the wrong message. Thats what I am worried about and MLM companies can use these messages to their advantage.