enyouth...should I join?
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hear from a friend from that another key personel of enyouth call max got conflit with the raymond lim boss of enyouth and think he also game over liao,is it true.
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Originally posted by leddy:
Well said well said. Could not have said it better myself.
Your friend is right, joining enyouth doesn't guarantee you money... yet again working hard for enyouth probably doesnt guarantee you any money either.
They are just trying to psych you when the DM or SDM is talking to you about some issues and ur friend is constantly making this irritating comment 'dui!' or 'yes!' . That happens to everyone who is brought to enyouth by their friends.
Try to think critically, why was ur friend constantly affirming the words of the SDM? it's their way of making something that [b]may not necessary to true, appear to be true to you. This is also a subtle way of pressure selling. I'm sorry to say, your friend is probably another idiot who can't think for herself. Many things they try to tell you there is just bullshit, even my grandmother knows better.
They like ppl with the attitude "WHY NOT I JUST GIVE A TRY", coz these ppl come in easy, put in effort and money for the upline, and when they dont succeed, they leave the company, the upline will still be there to reap the benefits. of coz the hope is that u become one of those uplines... but you will have to live a life psychoing ur good friends into this crap.
Many of these mlm ppl come in here and make comments like why should you work hard, why not let money work for you... and stuff like you are a failure if you do not dare try out new things... hey pardon me, I'm very willing to try out new things.... things like group sex, S&M... but hey just not stuff like taking drugs, frauds and of coz MLM or SLM whatever you want to call it. [/b]
Good piece of advice.
Frankie Foo always tries to goreng me into attending MLM presentations. And you know he is my worst enemy. -
ai yo..... pls give EY a chance lah.... dun wack so hard on it pls.... give them some time to proof themselves.... good or bad, time will tell.... by the way, i am an ex a.mag distributor so dun fire at me, i am not protecting them, a coin got 2 sides, it depends how you look at it.
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>groans<
i aint gonna approach this from a very philosophical viewpoint -
for people still having queries on EnYouth's plan or payout structure, and my comments, please goto the thread "Heard of Enyouth?"
the last few msgs are posted by me after i got into the company and hear out their payout structure... ty!
P.S. Please think twice... there are many better companies out there... -
right. this tells me i prolly made the right decision...
i hope i dun get jio-ed to that kopitiam again man..
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LET HOPE THE CHOICE U AND ME MAKE IS THE BEST OF THE BEST CHOICE.Originally posted by nOrmalbOi:right. this tells me i prolly made the right decision...
i hope i dun get jio-ed to that kopitiam again man..
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If the work is already so hard to explain then it will be much much harder to make it work.Originally posted by alkaiden:my fren told me shes got a job for me, but he told me its very hard to explain
She is 100% perfectly correct!Originally posted by alkaiden:Btw, she told me this thing doesnt surely earn me big bucks but it depends on how hard you work....is that true? or is it just a big scam
This thing doesnt surely earn you big bucks but the company will surely earn your big bucks.
She is also right when she said it depends on how hard you work... for the company.
Was she scamming you? I definitely do not think so. She just didn't tell you everything, thats all.
Should you join? Depends on how much truth you want to tell your friends, just like her. -
swee.. lution.. right to the point!Originally posted by lution:She is 100% perfectly correct!
This thing doesnt surely earn you big bucks but the company will surely earn your big bucks.
She is also right when she said it depends on how hard you work... for the company.
Was she scamming you? I definitely do not think so. She just didn't tell you everything, thats all.
Should you join? Depends on how much truth you want to tell your friends, just like her. -
Splendid explaination.....Originally posted by lution:She is 100% perfectly correct!
This thing doesnt surely earn you big bucks but the company will surely earn your big bucks.
She is also right when she said it depends on how hard you work... for the company.
Was she scamming you? I definitely do not think so. She just didn't tell you everything, thats all.
Should you join? Depends on how much truth you want to tell your friends, just like her.
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http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=195766Originally posted by alkaiden:my fren told me shes got a job for me, but he told me its very hard to explain so he brought me to the office which is at clarke quay. then she intro me to her many friends and we all shook hands and they are all ery friendly. then we went to this coffee shop and ate stuff and crap
then later, i went back w my fren and a higher superior and she explained to me in details about how the company earns revenue. and how we earn points to promote up the ranks. when the superior teaching us, my friend keep saying 'yes' in agreement. all the people all quite young de some less than 20.
But Ive heard many bad things abt MLM, especially enyouth so im doubtful whether to join or not. My friend is really not the type of person who would cheat a friend becuz ive been w her for quite long le, but maybe money can change a person.
So its either shes cheated le and she trying to pull me into this crap or she doesnt know she is getting ripped off and she wanted me to help her. If the latter is the case why is she loyal to the company? Did she get psycho'd or something? How should I convince her...?
Btw, she told me this thing doesnt surely earn me big bucks but it depends on how hard you work....is that true? or is it just a big scam
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get her out, its bullshyte. a classmate whom we haven seen for years suddenly asked to "catch up", i didn't go but the tricks he used to (try to) psycho my friend is pathetic.
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I give the best advice .. listen carefully..... very carefully...................
If you haven't heard of the company's name before.. and the company's located in a backalley.. Don't join!! Because arh.... the toilet sure very filthy one.. If u join .. wait u cannot pang sai properly everyday ... filthy toilet = filthy company.. 
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Please don't shout. mr campers oh sorry is skycampersOriginally posted by spycampers:LET HOPE THE CHOICE U AND ME MAKE IS THE BEST OF THE BEST CHOICE.
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just a bit of c**K, do you camp in the sky? LOL
For these MLM things i feel that you guys need to read more, i just can't really explain from here, it is simple that from a business itself you need more knowleadge, more time, more money, more ppl and many many more things.
You have to put yourself into a business then you will understand it, i respect that 100 dollars pay check fellow, you are good that you can endure it, but for my point of view i think you are not persisting in your business, can anyone tell me which business company don't want to earn big bucks?
i would like to go there and see their boss(Co. who dun like to earn money), i feel that all ppl spitting poison are all those who really do nothing and surf the net until the whole network got slow down, oh please do something more constructive. use your free time to work in a company which is not MLM and earn more for you loved one. God Bless.
For me i'm kinda doing business, MLM is part of it. ppl who says won't work but the more thay says the more i wanna try(my friend). coz i won't feel any harm in business... when big bucks goes into your pocket you will just shut up. just like my family and friends. Will you scold your friend a MF if he treat you on food or drink in a pub? you gotta try that man!!!
But for ppl i treated sometime i'll feel like these aim't my good friend coz my best buddy dun let me treat, you see. in return is his treat instead.
You guys can learn from MLM company it won't harm you, you can see lot of faces there, meet lot of ppls. the best thing is to know how to act in times. this is life, come on!!! bro and sis out there, face the world with reality know that you can make it one day... have a dream in your mind set the target and go get it. stop wasting time here and spead the world of all bad thing.
There are no right or wrong in this world, think about this.
Btw why i'm so free to come here and type those "fey hua" just because i'm doing some research and stuffs, in real world there are no free lunch. Ha Ha
i need IT consultant and web designer who know how to program, please PM me your particular. thanks!
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Hey mr Wat the F.Originally posted by wadthefart:Please don't shout. mr campers oh sorry is skycampers
just a bit of c**K, do you camp in the sky? LOL
For me i'm kinda doing business, MLM is part of it. ppl who says won't work but the more thay says the more i wanna try(my friend). coz i won't feel any harm in business... when big bucks goes into your pocket you will just shut up. just like my family and friends. Will you scold your friend a MF if he treat you on food or drink in a pub? you gotta try that man!!!
But for ppl i treated sometime i'll feel like these aim't my good friend coz my best buddy dun let me treat, you see. in return is his treat instead.
Open u eye big big.
Is SPY not SKY!
Think ur SUPER magnet done lot of GOOD to your eyes.
So zip up and dun show ur c**K brain.
So ppl tell u that things won't work than u want to try right.
Now i tell u killing ppl is bad loi, so dun try... So please now make urself highlight of the day for National day will ya.
So idiot isn't it??
it not wat ppl tell u to do or try to stop u to do..
is use ur c**K brain to think throught whether if it worth doing or not.
And u think by treat ppl to eat and the person who treat u eat is good friend??
Is not the treat that count.. u know..
it the heart that count.
by the way... everyone have his or her own talent.
some ppl like u are able to be salesman.
some ppl are making money by help ppl like u to do web design.
so each have his or her own way to make money.
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I just got cheated to go down 'dinner' with enyouth. It is same as other mlm. The main product is the 1.5k magnetic mattress which u can get for USD50-100 in ebay. This product is relatively useless if anyone will care to ask singaporeans' opinion. So the emphasis seem to be more on recruiting than the product.
From what i see, the pyramid will gonna fall again like Astral mag in the near future. The big boss just keep changing location and name, so easy for him. This 1.5k mattress will be very hard to find sales thus contributing to stagnant. They have other products such as magnetic bracelet and health care all grossly overpriced. Think about it, why should the company overprice these materials if he know he survive long?
Their motto is promote health and excellence to life, but they are showing me big cars and condos instead of doing charity stuff when they are so 'rich'. This lure those ppl with lust in riches.
Amway sells almost any product. Even with so many useful products, 50-70% in the network/pyramid dun earn more than $100/month. How can any other mlmer selling 2-3 crap item can achieve more? Only like 0.5-1% of the pyramid population will earn a decent amount which is at the tip.
Everyone who joined was tempted by the residual income which pay u until u die. Ask yourself, will this company survive forever? I saw many top ranks from mlms quit their job. Ain't they getting endless residual income? Can retire already in 25??????
Lastly, i am not telling mlm is sure failure. But from what i see, most of the mlm in sg will make u lose your money and time unless u are the top from the start. Sg is too small market and most of the mlm i saw are selling near to useless stuff. Any pyramid/network will die off due to oversaturation and unsaturation in sg. It means before u gain your ranks up the network, it collapsed.
U can describe mlm like releasing a balloon containing X amount of helium to a spiked ceiling. The X is amount of network joined. If the product sell well, X is big and balloon rise and pop. If product sell poorly, balloon dun lift at all. FYI, X is a unlimited variable in mlm. Retailing is different as we control this amount of X to a known number.
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ya .. i agree... the company keep on changing name and address....Originally posted by Baddieko:I just got cheated to go down 'dinner' with enyouth. It is same as other mlm. The main product is the 1.5k magnetic mattress which u can get for USD50-100 in ebay. This product is relatively useless if anyone will care to ask singaporeans' opinion. So the emphasis seem to be more on recruiting than the product.
From what i see, the pyramid will gonna fall again like Astral mag in the near future. The big boss just keep changing location and name, so easy for him. This 1.5k mattress will be very hard to find sales thus contributing to stagnant. They have other products such as magnetic bracelet and health care all grossly overpriced. Think about it, why should the company overprice these materials if he know he survive long?
Their motto is promote health and excellence to life, but they are showing me big cars and condos instead of doing charity stuff when they are so 'rich'. This lure those ppl with lust in riches.
Amway sells almost any product. Even with so many useful products, 50-70% in the network/pyramid dun earn more than $100/month. How can any other mlmer selling 2-3 crap item can achieve more? Only like 0.5-1% of the pyramid population will earn a decent amount which is at the tip.
Everyone who joined was tempted by the residual income which pay u until u die. Ask yourself, will this company survive forever? I saw many top ranks from mlms quit their job. Ain't they getting endless residual income? Can retire already in 25??????
Lastly, i am not telling mlm is sure failure. But from what i see, most of the mlm in sg will make u lose your money and time unless u are the top from the start. Sg is too small market and most of the mlm i saw are selling near to useless stuff. Any pyramid/network will die off due to oversaturation and unsaturation in sg. It means before u gain your ranks up the network, it collapsed.
U can describe mlm like releasing a balloon containing X amount of helium to a spiked ceiling. The X is amount of network joined. If the product sell well, X is big and balloon rise and pop. If product sell poorly, balloon dun lift at all. FYI, X is a unlimited variable in mlm. Retailing is different as we control this amount of X to a known number.
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change address is okie..Originally posted by 1x2x3:ya .. i agree... the company keep on changing name and address....
cause they moved to bigger building..
as they have reap a lot of profit from"believers"
but think they change name is cause their product sux..
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their product sux.. still can grow so big meh ?Originally posted by spycampers:change address is okie..
cause they moved to bigger building..
as they have reap a lot of profit from"believers"
but think they change name is cause their product sux..
so must change name if not no body want to buy..
so many new Car Achiever
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u try it before?Originally posted by NW_God:their product sux.. still can grow so big meh ?
so many new Car Achiever
does it improve health mai?
I buy the mat for my parent.
those illiness that enyouth claim can cure,
doesn't have any effect .
it not improving at all loi...
my parent blood pressure still high loi...
the mat is still being used..
(cause i sincerely hope that this mat can reduce blood pressure for my parent, that why i buy it ....)
So is the product that good as they claim??
maybe u can tell me...
as for many car achievers..
ya.. i admit that it quite a number.
but.. once there are 16 CA..
last aug.. there is only 10 CA..
care to tell me from 16 to 10.
didn't any one ask...
how come from 16 to 10??
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I was at their place yesterday due to a gathering with my long lost secondary school classmate. Was there at the coffeehop for dinner and she said that her cousin called her where is she and would join us for dinner. For me, a dinner with another guy is ok, but the conversation is very well planed. Asking about your dream, what is your plan, is your work really good, is there security..
For me, I am very well versed but not saying that I am good in everything. So I was invited to go up to see the company and bcos to give my fren face I agree and was told an hour and a half to finished off everything.
When I reached their office, they keep trying to show off their Cars, ISO standard, Dare to Fail and Direct selling act etc. To me, those are nothing cos every company will have something to link. I was told about the boss is doing A&P for enyouth, so what?
Things I observed,
people are like around 20s, very young. I do not see any people who are around 30s or more. They are behaving like Fa Lun Gong. Yes, Dui... it is very uncomfortable. The compensation plan they have, SXXkc. What they need u to do is to sell and resell. then u become the selling of this company. The presenter a China lady, saying that the PV is 2/3 of the actual price where 1/3 is the actual cost and admin cost. that is 200% or more in the mark up price.
Yes, there are people earning the money, but how many are not? how many will be harm in the process? Inventory, hypes, emotional motivations, is it wrong to work? Our parents also work so hard to earn and give us educations, a roof to live in and clothes to wear. How long and consistent can you earn from this company? They keep running down on other MLM co which I do not like as this is very unprofessional.
Their boss, Raymond Lim, last night, the class that he gave, speaks like an uneducated man, words like Ka Ni Na, Na Bei etc. Running down on other co but then say they cannot say this. Really like ah beng leading his kids around. What kind of influence will the young guys and girls take? To me, he is like a clown. My fren keep telling me he is very good, but have anyone seem a much better speaker out there? He is just taking the weak points of our youngers today who want cars, glamour, look good, dress nice and like to listen to good things from friends. End of the day, there are always new suckers around.
I was not allow to leave till 1230 am and the people are just like cults, YES, Dui... rubbish. How many of them have been through the journey of lifes? Have they survive and live on their own? Wake up your idea guys.
This is my freedom of thoughts and speech, I have been living in other country for a few years and seem and went through MLM locally and overseas. If you guys are looking for MLM, do your study and do not let emotional decision which can lead u to a longer road. there is no fault with MLM, it is just the people that are the problem starter.
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Well said...
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can u intro your friend to me?Originally posted by alkaiden:my fren told me shes got a job for me, but he told me its very hard to explain so he brought me to the office which is at clarke quay. then she intro me to her many friends and we all shook hands and they are all ery friendly. then we went to this coffee shop and ate stuff and crap
then later, i went back w my fren and a higher superior and she explained to me in details about how the company earns revenue. and how we earn points to promote up the ranks. when the superior teaching us, my friend keep saying 'yes' in agreement. all the people all quite young de some less than 20.
But Ive heard many bad things abt MLM, especially enyouth so im doubtful whether to join or not. My friend is really not the type of person who would cheat a friend becuz ive been w her for quite long le, but maybe money can change a person.
So its either shes cheated le and she trying to pull me into this crap or she doesnt know she is getting ripped off and she wanted me to help her. If the latter is the case why is she loyal to the company? Did she get psycho'd or something? How should I convince her...?
Btw, she told me this thing doesnt surely earn me big bucks but it depends on how hard you work....is that true? or is it just a big scam
i'll like to go down enyouth to take a look and see if there if the company is good.
so far i have seen many companies, none are in my good category. for i was cheated a few grands before, so i learnt to be smart, know how to choose a good company already. if you want to know if the company is good
why not just let me go down enyouth, if i feel it's good, than i let you know.
i hope i can help you reach a good decision.
basically, i am once cheated in mlm, anti mlm before but after 1 yr of pondering, slowly understand what is real mlm, so here i am finding for a good company again. -
Hi guys,
I have been to enyouth once and I must say
that they are are a whole lot of young and
energizes people there. When you see, you
feel like working with them...
However, i never join because I'm not good at
persuading people to buy.
Anyway, I heard about the car achiever system.
How does it works actually? If everyone do well
in enyouth, then the company is going to buy
them each a car? Heard that they only buy BMW
for them