FOREVER LIVING PRODUCTS
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any forever living distributors out there??
can explain to me how good forever living is? we have being hearing from you guys that other MLM companies spoilt the image of this industries.. how bad they were.
so please tell us how good forever living is that make other companies look so bad.
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This what nuskin is doing too!!! Isn't it?Originally posted by I love BMW:any forever living distributors out there??
can explain to me how good forever living is? we have being hearing from you guys that other MLM companies spoilt the image of this industries.. how bad they were.
so please tell us how good forever living is that make other companies look so bad.
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nope. enyouth do that!
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Reading your topic/post is really a waste of time & resources. Please get a life & stop being an idiot
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Hello there.. After reading all the threads, it seems like there are no FLP distributors around, so I think I should reply..Originally posted by I love BMW:any forever living distributors out there??
can explain to me how good forever living is? we have being hearing from you guys that other MLM companies spoilt the image of this industries.. how bad they were.
so please tell us how good forever living is that make other companies look so bad.
thanks.
hmmm.. this is gonna be a long one..
Firstly, I wish to clarify that I have no intent to put any company down, so I'll apologise first if anyone finds this offending.
Hmmm.. I think that the most the important 4 things behind any company are:
1) Company
2) Product
3) Marketing Plan
4) Team
1) Let me touch on Forever Living Products as a company.
- FLP is currently in its 27th year of operations.
- FLP can be found in over 110 countries world-wide.
- FLP is a financially stable private company
- Forever Resorts, a sister company, owns more than 50 first class resort properties around the world, in cash.
- FLP is the only MLM company in the world that pays bonuses based on retail price (furthur illustration in the mareting plan)
- FLP is a 1-line production company. This means that we grow our own aloe vera, we produce our own products and we distribute it ourselves
- FLP holds many patents on our aloe vera and bee products, as well as our nutritional supplements
2) Product
- FLP is the world's largest grower, manufacturer and distributor of Aloe Vera, currently controls 92.5% of the world's market.
- FLP is the world's largest producer of bee products, ie, honey, pollen, propolis and royal jelly, currently controlling about 60% of the world's supply.
- FLP's aloe vera is 100% stabilised
- FLP's aloe vera is Halal and Kosher, and is the first company to carry the International Aloe Science Council seal (visit www.iasc.org for details of the council)
- FLP's aloe vera products range from aloe vera drinks to aloe vera toothgel and shampoo to aloe vera skin care, aloe vera make-up and aloe vera multi-purpose detergent, to aloe vera veterinary spray
- For the complete product range, visit www.foreverliving.com
- Uses of products include Fat gain/loss, nutrition, daily use, beauty, detox, anti-aging, water filtration
3) Marketing Plan (for simplicity, I'll just highlight 5 benefits)
- Group Volume: everything your business partner does is related to you, to a certain extent that it is also fair to downlines
- No Reversion: no demotion even if your sales volume drops. most importantly, your level of bonuses don't drop for the rest of your life. (I understand that some companies don't demote distributors, but once their sales volume drops, their % bonus drops. Not for us, our don't drop)
- No Pass up: once a person is in your network, that person is part of your group and the company will not take them out unfairly
- 2 months accumulation: you have 2 months to achieve your promotions instead of 1 month
- Bonus calculation based on Retail price: Simply, you buy a product at $7, sell for $10, earn $3 first. The company pays you the % bonuses using $10. FLP is the ONLY company in the whole world that pays bonuses based on retail price.
More than 90% of MLM companies use points, so the way to calculate is to find out the average points for the company, usually about 0.5 to 0.6, so means that for a $10 product, the company uses $5-$6 to calculate your commission. FLP uses $10.
4) Team
Take FLP as Ministry of Education. Under MOE got many schools, each school has the same PSLE paper and same 'O' Level papers, but why do parents still wanna queue for "branded" schools? I think the answer is in the school's system. Certain schools have "successful" systems whereby a student has a higher chance of getting better grades. So the same thing in FLP. There are many "systems" or what we call teams, and each team has their own business strategy.
My team is Forever Jonathan Club. We are the largest, most professional and most money making club in the whole of Singapore and Malaysia. We have the most full-time distributors. I believe it is because of our strategy.
I hope I manage to make it quite clear, cuz this is a very brief summary. If anyone has any questions pls either email me ([email protected]) or call me at 9189 0275.
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Hi guys,
I believe I have post this before. I feel that in MLM business, you need to look into a lot of areas, 4 main areas must be researched on
1) Company
2) Products
3) Marketing Plan
4) Team
1) Company
- FLP is currently in its 28th year of operations.
- FLP can be found in over 110 countries world-wide.
- FLP is a financially stable private company which have money power to buy everything we need in FLP with cash money..one incident will be "Old Medical Thong Chai Hospital at Chinatown". We also own the "Forever Resorts"
- FLP is the only MLM company in the world that pays bonuses based on retail price (furthur illustration in the marketing plan if anybody interested)
- FLP grow its own aloe vera, we produce our own products and we distribute it ourselves. We have just bought another 2 plots of land for aloe vera growing which is much more bigger than what we have in the past years to supply enough for the market.
- FLP holds many patents on our aloe vera and bee products, as well as our nutritional supplements
2) Products
- FLP is the world's largest grower, manufacturer and distributor of Aloe Vera, currently controls 92.5% of the world's market. (Yet I have friends saying that we are not the largest)
- FLP is the world's largest producer of bee products, ie, honey, pollen, propolis and royal jelly, currently controlling about 60% of the world's supply.
- FLP's aloe vera is 100% stabilised, certified Halal and Kosher, and is the first company to carry the International Aloe Science Council seal (visit www.iasc.org for details of the council)
- FLP's aloe vera products range of more than 100 and more products. We can basically divide them into 4 areas: Drinks & Supplement, Skin Care, Cosmetics and Daily consumerble products. For the complete product range, visit www.foreverliving.com
-We have living testimonial on people who are sick, down with cancer and others, after taking our products became better and their sickness turns better. I must stress that our products are for supplement. As a saying goes "Prevention is better than cure"
3) Marketing Plan (7 benefits to note)
- Group Volume: everything your business partner does is related to you, to a certain extent that it is also fair to downlines. Your accumulations are based on Group volume not single volume.
- No Reversion: no demotion even if your sales volume drops. most importantly, your level of bonuses don't drop for the rest of your life. (I understand that some companies don't demote distributors, but once their sales volume drops, their % bonus drops. Not for us, our don't drop). It will always remain there even if you come back after 10 yrs
- No Pass up: once a person is in your network, that person is part of your group and the company will not take them out unfairly. Yet it does not mean that your upline is earning more than you.
- 2 months accumulation: you have 2 consecutive months to achieve your promotions instead of 1 month
- Bonus calculation based on Retail price: Simply, you buy a product at $7, sell for $10, earn $3 first. The company pays you the % bonuses using $10. Most MLM companies use points, so the way to calculate is to find out the average points for the company, some companies are omega trends, amway and others.
- Leadership Bonus & Over-riding Bonus on top of your normal bonus.
- there's no worry that you are a shy person or you do not have friends. FLP is suitable for all kinds of people even part-timers, someone who has no confidence..etc.
4) Team
Treat your team with care and love, money and friends will come in naturally. If you do it correctly, you will not lose any of your friends and instead you will get more friends. Money is not always the main things in life.
Feel free to contact me if you have any doubts or want to know how the marketing plan works. If we assume that your downlines are able to do what you have understand from the marketing plan, you will be surprise with te outcome.
My email is [email protected] / [email protected](MSN). If you need to call me, just email me
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Rgds & cheers!
Xue aka Khim
P/S: Just a short note, MLM is not an easy business. Be it Full/Part time, you must be able to have determination to pull through. Not to give up so easily. But if you can perserver, you will succeed.
P/S: We are also having a free facial promotion, I believe some of them has went for it. If interested please email to the 1st email address. Rgds -
who cares?
nuskin is the best! -
another statement without factual basis or anything else to back it up..
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Does this mean that if you are already very rich, you can just buy your way to the top of the bonus scale and remain there indefinitely? If that is so, how is this a fair playing ground to everyone (unless it's not meant to be)...Originally posted by ChiHongXue:Hi guys,
I believe I have post this before. I feel that in MLM business, you need to look into a lot of areas, 4 main areas must be researched on
1) Company
2) Products
3) Marketing Plan
4) Team
1) Company
- FLP is currently in its 28th year of operations.
- FLP can be found in over 110 countries world-wide.
- FLP is a financially stable private company which have money power to buy everything we need in FLP with cash money..one incident will be "Old Medical Thong Chai Hospital at Chinatown". We also own the "Forever Resorts"
- FLP is the only MLM company in the world that pays bonuses based on retail price (furthur illustration in the marketing plan if anybody interested)
- FLP grow its own aloe vera, we produce our own products and we distribute it ourselves. We have just bought another 2 plots of land for aloe vera growing which is much more bigger than what we have in the past years to supply enough for the market.
- FLP holds many patents on our aloe vera and bee products, as well as our nutritional supplements
2) Products
- FLP is the world's largest grower, manufacturer and distributor of Aloe Vera, currently controls 92.5% of the world's market. (Yet I have friends saying that we are not the largest)
- FLP is the world's largest producer of bee products, ie, honey, pollen, propolis and royal jelly, currently controlling about 60% of the world's supply.
- FLP's aloe vera is 100% stabilised, certified Halal and Kosher, and is the first company to carry the International Aloe Science Council seal (visit www.iasc.org for details of the council)
- FLP's aloe vera products range of more than 100 and more products. We can basically divide them into 4 areas: Drinks & Supplement, Skin Care, Cosmetics and Daily consumerble products. For the complete product range, visit www.foreverliving.com
-We have living testimonial on people who are sick, down with cancer and others, after taking our products became better and their sickness turns better. I must stress that our products are for supplement. As a saying goes "Prevention is better than cure"
3) Marketing Plan (7 benefits to note)
- Group Volume: everything your business partner does is related to you, to a certain extent that it is also fair to downlines. Your accumulations are based on Group volume not single volume.
- No Reversion: no demotion even if your sales volume drops. most importantly, your level of bonuses don't drop for the rest of your life. (I understand that some companies don't demote distributors, but once their sales volume drops, their % bonus drops. Not for us, our don't drop). It will always remain there even if you come back after 10 yrs
- No Pass up: once a person is in your network, that person is part of your group and the company will not take them out unfairly. Yet it does not mean that your upline is earning more than you.
- 2 months accumulation: you have 2 consecutive months to achieve your promotions instead of 1 month
- Bonus calculation based on Retail price: Simply, you buy a product at $7, sell for $10, earn $3 first. The company pays you the % bonuses using $10. Most MLM companies use points, so the way to calculate is to find out the average points for the company, some companies are omega trends, amway and others.
- Leadership Bonus & Over-riding Bonus on top of your normal bonus.
- there's no worry that you are a shy person or you do not have friends. FLP is suitable for all kinds of people even part-timers, someone who has no confidence..etc.
4) Team
Treat your team with care and love, money and friends will come in naturally. If you do it correctly, you will not lose any of your friends and instead you will get more friends. Money is not always the main things in life.
Feel free to contact me if you have any doubts or want to know how the marketing plan works. If we assume that your downlines are able to do what you have understand from the marketing plan, you will be surprise with te outcome.
My email is [email protected] / [email protected](MSN). If you need to call me, just email me.
Rgds & cheers!
Xue aka Khim
P/S: Just a short note, MLM is not an easy business. Be it Full/Part time, you must be able to have determination to pull through. Not to give up so easily. But if you can perserver, you will succeed.
P/S: We are also having a free facial promotion, I believe some of them has went for it. If interested please email to the 1st email address. Rgds
Doesn't seem to have a system in place... it's like i just have to chiong business volume in a particular time-period and I don't have to do anything else...
Just asking, please point out because I think my assumptions may be flawed...
Another thing, is the residual income willable to the next generation'? -
yawn~
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good
MLMers fighting one another -
Its actually good to see that cos we can make a good comparision and see which one is better. Or who like to argue on the forums more.
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Originally posted by I love BMW:who cares?
nuskin is the best!
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That is your main purpose to start this thread, RIGHTOriginally posted by laurence82:good
MLMers fighting one another 
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Originally posted by VeryFree1:
no, i dont happen to like BMW, Volkswagen may be passe some, but it will do well
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BTW, this BMW also fake one lahOriginally posted by laurence82:no, i dont happen to like BMW, Volkswagen may be passe some, but it will do well 
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hi...im 1 of the FLP DIS...i think if u all interested about the FLP marketing plan....that OPP talk every monday at forever living company....i think just go there and listen lohz....wont harm u 1 if u wanna know about the company..."duo yan jiu sao zhi gui"... =)
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FLP business plan sux! come on! how many of your uplines are actually earning that kind of money they actually boast?
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Let the new ppl learn more abt FLP...
1. NO OTHER COMPANY will boast of calculating bonuses using RETAIL PRICE.
2. WORLD'S LARGEST... WORLD'S BIGGEST... i mean our aloe vera and bee products...
3. how abt earning at least 1.5% to 3% of your downlines, UPlines, and even SIDELINES pUrChAsEs (again using RETAIL PRICE to calculate) from not just Singapore, but MALAYSIA AND BRUNEI?
4. Wide range of qualifications, from PSLE dropouts to even Masters! and both extremes have SUCCEEDED!
5. Wide age spectrum: even 50+ STARTED OFF FROM SCRATCH, AND SUCCEED!
6. We are able to lead working ppl into the biz to succeed, be it they earn $8k/mth or $1k+/mth in the corporate world.
7. Many PROVEN LEADERS with PROVEN SUCCESSFUL FORMULAS to bring you from bottom to TOP!
8. Many POWERFUL TEAMS: Forever Enterprise Team (biggest sales in Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore), Forever Jonathan Club (biggest group in MBS), Leadership Team (originated from Taiwan), Sunshine Club, International Generals Team, etc...
9. HIGHEST PAYOUT OF ALL MLM COMPANIES IN THE WORLD! Don't challenge me, because you are challenging my "minister mentor" aka MLM GOD, Double Diamond Manager EDDY CHAI (www.eddychai.com)
By the way, i'm a Beautician in FLP.
Interested to challenge my statements? Or interested in going for a Facial wash by me or my beautician team? Call me at 94790722 (Hongchuan)
P.S. oh i think the guy deadshag just turned Manager not too long ago! cheers! Congrats Poh Chuen! saw your photo on Gayahidup Forever 96th issue (may 2006) -
http://www.terrylabs.com/
they claim to be the largest distributor in terms of sales volume...
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Let me correct the quote first.Originally posted by doggytb:http://www.terrylabs.com/
they claim to be the largest distributor in terms of sales volume...
so who is correct
"Terry Laboratories is the largest Aloe supplier in the industry based on sales and volume."
okay let's look at what is mentioned:
"Terry Labs has the production capacity, controls and flexibility to produce the industryÂ’s widest range of Aloe Vera products..."
this is a very important point. Ask Yourself, if wad they claim is true, then why are there only a few products in their product line being certified by IASC? you can even compare with FLP's products side-by-side (issit a coincidence?)
http://www.iasc.org/complete.html
look at the stringent criteria for a product to be certified by IASC. how about that?
http://www.iasc.org/certification_facts.html
if u r that lazy to view the link, here's what is being mentioned:
"Companies wishing to certify finished products, must use certified Aloe raw material and have a minimum of 15% certified Aloe and apply for finished product certification. There are two different types of certification.
Aloe raw material and
Finished products containing Aloe (must be 15% or more)."
strange enough, if they really claim they have the "world's largest aloe vera plantations", then why is there simply not enough aloe vera content in their so-called wide range of products? "tou gong jian liao"? or should i say "trying to cut costs and gain a bigger profit margin by adding a cheaper alternative than aloe vera, and trying to pass it out as the real thing"?
worse still, when u look into their products range, they did not really mention anything except general stuff. surf our company's website and at least u c pictures of our products. better still, if u want a more detailed description of our products and some known and proven benefits, check out this:
http://www.aloehealthuk.com/
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who care which company is the best, most important u can earn money from company, no matter u join which company, u can earn money u r the best
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FLP is quite a Flop in sales actually. In year 2004, they made 2.1billion euro of sales in a year but had 7.5million distributors resulting in a yearly buisness volume of 215.38 per distributor. My guess is mostly though self-purchases.
Compare this toThis area of the Marketing Plan is ideally suited to Distributors who wish to earn a few hundred dollars per month.(Normally you work an average of several hours per week.
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Good argument both ways.
Actually too much of monopoly among the teams that made it a barrier of entry for new distributors.
Anyway, no doubt FLP products are the best in the world.
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I do not join MLM becos got totally no interest in MLM. But I've been to Forever Living seminars and joined in the Genting trip in 2005 before.
What I can say is ever trade has their black sheeps.
No trade in this world here everyone works with integrity. Some in a bid to boost sales, confusing & conning will be utilised to boost sales.
As long as you dun need the goods just dun buy it.
If anyone is only interested in earning money & not willing to take responsibilities for what he sells, better dun do it.