I am from NTI, good day to all.
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Good day to all of you in this forum.
I have read, with passing interest, some of the topics that have been discussed in this forum, and I have not felt compelled to join in the discussion until now, when I find there is a need to clear the air. Too many people i feel IMHO are getting too emotional when it comes to my company. Firstly, allow me to make several statements :
1. I am a member of NTIparis. I have been here since the company started in July 2003. I was NOT a 'founding' member of NTI, as I joined in September 2003, 2 months after they started operations at No. 1, Shenton Way. Before joining NTI, I was a total newbie to the MLM business as the last time I stepped into this industry, I did not have a positive experience as well.
2. Therefore, I consider myself uniquely qualified to speak when it comes to answering questions about my company and it's practices, since I have been here almost from the beginning and have experienced the ups and downs of my network building as well as the differenct changes in NTI that we have gone through together.
3. I am VERY proud to be in NTIparis, not just because I am currently holding a high lvl manager's position after 1 year and 10 months of effort, neither is it because I have earned a lot of money in this company. It is because of the other intangible benefits I have gained in terms of experience and learning that I have found invaluable to my personal development, since for most of my working adult life before I joined NTI, I made my money only from the 'E' or employees quadrant.
4. Therefore I have sat on both sides of the fence before and I know what it is like. I have had good times and bad times at NTI as well. Even, I have also had periods of times when I had no sales and no income. But through it all, I was fortunate to have a system of support in my network who encouraged me to persevere and not to give up. As a result, I am where I am today.
5. I would like to have a discussion with all the members of this forum, to clear the air about my company, because the practice I duplicate to my downlines is not to spend time flaming other companes, because what we should be doing is to increase the level of professionalism of our industry as well as to reduce the amount of infighting and backstabbing among different companies that have caused our collective reputations to suffer.
6. And yes, I CAN hold my own in a proper conversation with correct grammatical usage and spelling.
Once again, good day to all of you here and I look forward to participating in this forum.
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Good day to all of you in this forum.
Okay, first you should be clear about you purpose and target audience, opening a new topic with the same issue? I do not really see any neccessay of it.I have read, with passing interest, some of the topics that have been discussed in this forum, and I have not felt compelled to join in the discussion until now, when I find there is a need to clear the air. Too many people i feel IMHO are getting too emotional when it comes to my company. Firstly, allow me to make several statements :
If you can hold thus long, hold it long, we won't hold againist you. If you have the ability to clear the air, i suppose you can closed us online already. Furthermore, too many people get disgusted in NTI already, so how do you guys clear you air inside? You have conquered the outer space, but not inner space, remember this.1. I am a member of NTIparis. I have been here since the company started in July 2003. I was NOT a 'founding' member of NTI, as I joined in September 2003, 2 months after they started operations at No. 1, Shenton Way. Before joining NTI, I was a total newbie to the MLM business as the last time I stepped into this industry, I did not have a positive experience as well.
That was a long time okay though, but how you get your positive feelings? Must be heavily physco in the PSC.2. Therefore, I consider myself uniquely qualified to speak when it comes to answering questions about my company and it's practices, since I have been here almost from the beginning and have experienced the ups and downs of my network building as well as the differenct changes in NTI that we have gone through together.
Yup, there are ups and downs in the company, because your company is not taking the whole 1st shenton way, it is merely 1st and 22nd floor. Why can you last for so long? All because you are close to the tops, where they have high ablities of brainwashing you, try not to hang around with them for serveral months, you will get a totally different feelings.3. I am VERY proud to be in NTIparis, not just because I am currently holding a high lvl manager's position after 1 year and 10 months of effort, neither is it because I have earned a lot of money in this company. It is because of the other intangible benefits I have gained in terms of experience and learning that I have found invaluable to my personal development, since for most of my working adult life before I joined NTI, I made my money only from the 'E' or employees quadrant.
Sorry, manager in nti is nothing. MacDonald floor manager's pay is even higher than you, or rather, i open one company myself and give myself a president + CEO, would it be nice? Status really so important? Secondly, yup, you shouldn't be proud of your earning because even RSDs also not earning much, how can you be earning much, this is common sense! Last but not least, your so called benefits is what? Merely scamming and cheating skills, where can you applied in the society? Only NTI.4. Therefore I have sat on both sides of the fence before and I know what it is like. I have had good times and bad times at NTI as well. Even, I have also had periods of times when I had no sales and no income. But through it all, I was fortunate to have a system of support in my network who encouraged me to persevere and not to give up. As a result, I am where I am today.
You are a weak person from what you have written. You know you will have your falls and never get it back, but only you choose not to believe it. There is no as a result, no result at all in NTI, just look at your downlines, how many of them have come and go and why? They have found their world is not just NTI, rather never were NTI. Preserverance is the jinx to failure? It depends, if you clutch onto something which has no result, release it, better for and me.5. I would like to have a discussion with all the members of this forum, to clear the air about my company, because the practice I duplicate to my downlines is not to spend time flaming other companes, because what we should be doing is to increase the level of professionalism of our industry as well as to reduce the amount of infighting and backstabbing among different companies that have caused our collective reputations to suffer.
You mean even scamming also have professionlism? Best in Technology, best in products, ... ..., Yes! best in education, you are trained scammer, unlike those online low grades scammers, you people worked as a team. A team to analysis your virus (prospect) and find a way to cure them, using whatever means, like injection?6. And yes, I CAN hold my own in a proper conversation with correct grammatical usage and spelling.
You definately can hold, you are trained remember? A trained lackey/dog/beast. Who never once thinks for others, only for your own-selfish-self. You can lie to us but not to others, when you closed a prospect, you will be happy not because he joined you, is becasue you can earn money at the same time prove you are great at scamming/presenting. Have you really thought "YES! I have helped that guy to step on his road to success", let me help you answer, no.Once again, good day to all of you here and I look forward to participating in this forum.
Look like we got a educated dog to join us, welcome anyway.Regards
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frankly, as a former manager in NTI, i thought i had learnt alot but when i'm into the open society and meet other companies people... i realise what we are being taught are peanuts compared to outside world.
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the hot topic now is not about nti but durians n peanuts
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i realli wanna laugh at those nti ppl
thy think thy so clever
but........................
'yi shan hai bi yi shan gao'
thy haf never ever thought tat i can cheat their money & get my $ back.......
i haf cheated a veri high level manager's $ & his doggy manager's $.......
muaha
muahaha
muahahaha
muahahahaha
muahahahahaha
muahahahahahaha
muahahahahahahaha
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well done!!
please teach those people who are being cheated by NTI !!
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u regitered to tell us that?Originally posted by IamfromNTI:Good day to all of you in this forum.
I have read, with passing interest, some of the topics that have been discussed in this forum, and I have not felt compelled to join in the discussion until now, when I find there is a need to clear the air. Too many people i feel IMHO are getting too emotional when it comes to my company. Firstly, allow me to make several statements :
1. I am a member of NTIparis. I have been here since the company started in July 2003. I was NOT a 'founding' member of NTI, as I joined in September 2003, 2 months after they started operations at No. 1, Shenton Way. Before joining NTI, I was a total newbie to the MLM business as the last time I stepped into this industry, I did not have a positive experience as well.
2. Therefore, I consider myself uniquely qualified to speak when it comes to answering questions about my company and it's practices, since I have been here almost from the beginning and have experienced the ups and downs of my network building as well as the differenct changes in NTI that we have gone through together.
3. I am VERY proud to be in NTIparis, not just because I am currently holding a high lvl manager's position after 1 year and 10 months of effort, neither is it because I have earned a lot of money in this company. It is because of the other intangible benefits I have gained in terms of experience and learning that I have found invaluable to my personal development, since for most of my working adult life before I joined NTI, I made my money only from the 'E' or employees quadrant.
4. Therefore I have sat on both sides of the fence before and I know what it is like. I have had good times and bad times at NTI as well. Even, I have also had periods of times when I had no sales and no income. But through it all, I was fortunate to have a system of support in my network who encouraged me to persevere and not to give up. As a result, I am where I am today.
5. I would like to have a discussion with all the members of this forum, to clear the air about my company, because the practice I duplicate to my downlines is not to spend time flaming other companes, because what we should be doing is to increase the level of professionalism of our industry as well as to reduce the amount of infighting and backstabbing among different companies that have caused our collective reputations to suffer.
6. And yes, I CAN hold my own in a proper conversation with correct grammatical usage and spelling.
Once again, good day to all of you here and I look forward to participating in this forum.
Regards
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Yes, it's very possible. Of course, different companies, different institutions, you will definitely learn more and more things. Care to share what you have learnt since leaving NTI? Are you still involved in this industry under a different leader or different company? At which level did you decide to leave? BAM, BEM or BDM?Originally posted by Lian Jie:frankly, as a former manager in NTI, i thought i had learnt alot but when i'm into the open society and meet other companies people... i realise what we are being taught are peanuts compared to outside world.
i not sure who are you but maybe we may know each other since you are also a manager.
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u regitered to tell us that?
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I dont agree with what you claim yourself to be..
Read your paragraph five. When you started, you gave the impression you wanted to give objective answers. When i reached para 5, you were already insinuating nti reputation suffers thru backstabbing and flaming, and that you taught your downlines not to flame other companies.
I am sorry to break your bubbles, but in fact, none of the nti agents that came up to post left us with a good impression, eg, Ms Heat.
To worsen it, your first post was like many other agents, which like to harp on stuff like backstabbing, flaming and stuff like these. The only exception is, I can read your post. -
You mean about what Mrs GCT said?Originally posted by RaTtY81:the hot topic now is not about nti but durians n peanuts -
Look, you guys dun even sell stuffs in public and no retail shop or whatever. Oh crap, I forgotten what industry u are in.
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Can I get my prescription filled at your pharmacy at Venture Era?Originally posted by I love BMW:well done!!
please teach those people who are being cheated by NTI !!
let them eat back their own medicine! -
wow, so 'smart'? So am I lucky that I did not get cheated by you? Why did you not cheat me? After all, I am so visible in NTI.Originally posted by muahala:i realli wanna laugh at those nti ppl
thy think thy so clever
but........................
'yi shan hai bi yi shan gao'
thy haf never ever thought tat i can cheat their money & get my $ back.......
i haf cheated a veri high level manager's $ & his doggy manager's $.......
muaha
muahaha
muahahaha
muahahahaha
muahahahahaha
muahahahahahaha
muahahahahahahaha
muahahahahahahahaha -
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Hi, IamfromNTI...
Care to share who exactly are you in NTI? Not that I really want to know but you claimed that you are clearly visible withing the company.
And can you eleborate what products are you and you are company selling?
Thanks for sharing the precious info among the forumites here.
You have a good day as well.
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Hi to iamfromNTI,
You should go and discuss with a certain Mr benny from NTI, so that you can come up with a flawless reply to all the enquiries. There are not one but a lot of ppl who are very
angry with the way nti works. So you should find a person to help you out in replying. So we won't find guilty bombarding you with our questions -
You should know yourself cheating people is not easy, or else you won't be here clearing air. If everyone is so gulliable, NTI has already closed al least 1/4 of Singaporeans already.Originally posted by IamfromNTI:wow, so 'smart'? So am I lucky that I did not get cheated by you? Why did you not cheat me? After all, I am so visible in NTI.
In NTI there are 2 types of people, one is the leader, the other is the followers, just like 100%, 95% will success, 5% will not. I believe you are the top 5% since you are already the manager. Ok, what does leader do? They create rulez for the follow to obey, and since follower have the gulliable mindset to get cheated by NTI, he will definately dumb enough to be cheated by others. This is not your scamming skill 'powderful' NTI agents, but they themselve are not clever enough.
Back to why you won't get cheated, just like what you guys like to say, is either you convinced me or I convinced you. Maybe you are more convincing then others, so they can't possibly cheat you. Howvere we are not trained scammers like you, of course we can't cheat you out. -
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Hi, IamfromNTI...
Care to share who exactly are you in NTI? Not that I really want to know but you claimed that you are clearly visible withing the company.
And can you eleborate what products are you and you are company selling?
Thanks for sharing the precious info among the forumites here.
You have a good day as well.
Regards.
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Hello there. I am definitely visible within NTI, as I am one of the higher level managers within our Regional Sales Directors ( Mr Garry, Mr Jackie and Mr Desmond ) network. If you are interested to know exactly who I am, feel free to drop me a PM.
So far we have brought in 3 products, namely Aromatherapy, Oxy8 oxygenating skin care products and also a range of French Obsidian Products. For more details on product ranges and pricing, feel free to visit www.ntiparis.com and click on the products links. Feel free to approach me if you have any further questions.
Thanks for your interest
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Good Day, Laurence, thanks for your response.Originally posted by laurence82:I dont agree with what you claim yourself to be..
Read your paragraph five. When you started, you gave the impression you wanted to give objective answers. When i reached para 5, you were already insinuating nti reputation suffers thru backstabbing and flaming, and that you taught your downlines not to flame other companies.
I am sorry to break your bubbles, but in fact, none of the nti agents that came up to post left us with a good impression, eg, Ms Heat.
To worsen it, your first post was like many other agents, which like to harp on stuff like backstabbing, flaming and stuff like these. The only exception is, I can read your post.
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I dont agree with what you claim yourself to be..
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Well then, every person participating in an online forum has the luxury of creating an alternate persona doesnÂ’t he? I am who I say I am, and if you donÂ’t believe me, thatÂ’s ok. After all, IÂ’m sure not everyone in this forum believes you are who you portray yourself to be as well, right?
So together with everything you see nowadays on the internet, just take it with a pinch of salt!
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Read your paragraph five. When you started, you gave the impression you wanted to give objective answers. When i reached para 5, you were already insinuating nti reputation suffers thru backstabbing and flaming, and that you taught your downlines not to flame other companies.
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I was merely stating that through the postings in this forum, I have seen many posts that claim to be from NTI managers, ex agents, even general members of the public that claim to have been scammed in one way or the other by representatives of NTI. How many of these posts are actually substantiated that is what I would like to know. Like what you said above, Laurence. 20,000 posts in sgforums notwithstanding, what if I were to say that I donÂ’t agree with what you claim yourself to be as well? Can this statement also be applied to say, a person that comes in and claims to have been scammed by my company?
My company stands on its merits, marketing plan, products and technology. Those are our selling points. In 2 years, I have never once had to criticize other networking companiesÂ’ plans products or agents in order to close my sales. I am disturbed by the fact that many postings in here are more of the flaming variety, many of which are not proven or substantiated.
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I am sorry to break your bubbles, but in fact, none of the nti agents that came up to post left us with a good impression, eg, Ms Heat.
To worsen it, your first post was like many other agents, which like to harp on stuff like backstabbing, flaming and stuff like these. The only exception is, I can read your post.
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IsnÂ’t it a fact that many people have flamed my agents, company, practices etc? To the extent where I have seen some postings that actually talk about having sex with animals or personal attacks. What is the point of that? I mean, letÂ’s just put things in perspective. There is no need to call names.
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How do you define selling stuffs in public? We do have product sales, just that as a function of our network marketing plan we go more on referral sales and word of mouth. Our retail shop of course is at No. 1 Shenton Way. Our transaction counter is on the 22nd floor.Originally posted by BÃ¥seline:Look, you guys dun even sell stuffs in public and no retail shop or whatever. Oh crap, I forgotten what industry u are in. -
Seriously, its not my loss if you continue to brush aside what you state to be false claims from victims or ex managers.
Some of these people I know personally, again, so to me, they are real.
if you feel your company reputation has been tarnished, just return the monies of these people and also, the loss of resort membership by people who invested in the Batam resort that was never built.
I would also advise against brushing these people off as losers who wouldnt earn money in the MLM industry. It might worse the angst around here. -
IamNTI,
i dont give a damn whether you are from NTI or Venture Era, we just dont like your JP and RSDs that fly me aeroplane during the previous meetup.
You guys want to meet up me.. now then you fly aeroplane. SHAME on you! -
Good day to you, friend.Originally posted by I love BMW:IamNTI,
i dont give a damn whether you are from NTI or Venture Era, we just dont like your JP and RSDs that fly me aeroplane during the previous meetup.
You guys want to meet up me.. now then you fly aeroplane. SHAME on you!
From what I know, my Regional Sales Director Mr. Garry Tan had forwarded his handphone number to you to call him at your leisure and to set up an appointment. The proper business practice is to call and make an appointment with a confirmed time and date as well as location. If there are any last minute changes, it is only polite to inform in calling and not in a 3 am posting in this forum. One may not be logged on 24/7 in this forum to catch all the latest updates. Anyway, isnÂ’t it an easier and less convoluted process to just call?
It may be due to the fact that you are living in a different time zone that caused the first miscommunication. May I humbly suggest that you follow the above mentioned request and perhaps we can set up another meeting?
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Thank you for the feedback, Laurence. The very fact that I am in here shows that I am concerned with the number of claims that have been made. I never said that these people were lying. I said that due to the fact that everyone in this forum is using an alternate avatar or persona, it is very easy for anyone to create an account and claim that they were cheated by NTI, right? If there are really so many cases, why have they not come forward to the relevant people or authorities to claim their damages? DoesnÂ’t Singapore have a very fair system of representation for consumers? If NTI really cheated these people of their hard earned money, why have none of them come to NTI to claim their money? Even members of Raffles Town Club can also bring suit against the club when they feel the benefits of the membership were misrepresented.Originally posted by laurence82:Seriously, its not my loss if you continue to brush aside what you state to be false claims from victims or ex managers.
Some of these people I know personally, again, so to me, they are real.
if you feel your company reputation has been tarnished, just return the monies of these people and also, the loss of resort membership by people who invested in the Batam resort that was never built.
I would also advise against brushing these people off as losers who wouldnt earn money in the MLM industry. It might worse the angst around here.
And since when did NTI ever ask people to invest in a Batam resort?
I would never presume to brush off anyone, after all, everyone deserves a fair chance and itÂ’s my belief that anyone can succeed in any networking company in the MLM industry provided you are willing to put in the effort to learn and not give up the moment you hit your first obstacle. LetÂ’s put things in perspective, thereÂ’s no need for any angst.
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I can see that sardonic humor is probably not very well understood or appreciated by people here. Nonetheless, I do the best I can. If I really am cheating people, I wouldnÂ’t even bother to come clear the air in here, for isnÂ’t there a sucker born every minute? Like I asked in my previous post, friend, of course Singaporeans are not gullible! ThatÂ’s why our sales and membership are still increasing! SoÂ…can you answer me, NTI has been around for 2 years now, and our sales and memberships are still increasing. Is that because people in Singapore are stupid, or not?Originally posted by Neutrend:You should know yourself cheating people is not easy, or else you won't be here clearing air. If everyone is so gulliable, NTI has already closed al least 1/4 of Singaporeans already.
In NTI there are 2 types of people, one is the leader, the other is the followers, just like 100%, 95% will success, 5% will not. I believe you are the top 5% since you are already the manager. Ok, what does leader do? They create rulez for the follow to obey, and since follower have the gulliable mindset to get cheated by NTI, he will definately dumb enough to be cheated by others. This is not your scamming skill 'powderful' NTI agents, but they themselve are not clever enough.
Back to why you won't get cheated, just like what you guys like to say, is either you convinced me or I convinced you. Maybe you are more convincing then others, so they can't possibly cheat you. Howvere we are not trained scammers like you, of course we can't cheat you out.
Your simplistic example above seems to denote that 5% of the people in NTI have the ‘brains’, and the remaining 95% are the ‘zombies’. Really, bro. So easy to find so many zombies? If that is the case then I really don’t need to work already. Since I already am in the elite 5%, I will just activivate…my…zombie…army…and CONQUER THE WORLD! Bwah Ha ha ha!
So did you get scammed by people in NTI or did you not get scammed by people in NTI? And was it because you were too smart or because you were too stupid?
Take your time.