NTI PARIS GOOD OR BAD?
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Tell that to NTI people...Originally posted by FFROSE:PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''!
You can't win friends when your goal is to dupe them of their money....not as if they have lots of friends either...
I'd rather have a few good friends, than to have many dog friends... -
To Each his Own.
People in MLM will say that MLM shows good prospect. That's their beliefs... and that they love making money!
Different people have different ways of making money, e.g I can be taking over my father's chicken rice stall, making it big by franchising it globally and earning big bucks
! not only in MLM..
Some don't even care about earning big money, like musicians.. they play/perform for their passion not for money..
Peace out everyone...
pls don't give negative comments if you don't believe in it(e.g. a Buddists vs Christians vs muslims, it's never ending!)I'm and not interested in doing business the MLM way neither do I believe the system, but that's my say, me..
When I say that I'm not interested, don't say that I am negative/dunno what I want in my life/ spouting personal insults. I don't believe your company teaches you that!
you will just create a worst image on yourself and your company.
Seriously, I'm really impressed with the system... but, I don't like it.. that's my opinion
It will be good if you believe it and surge all out to it. it applies to everything you wanna do.. if you got the passion, go ahead! if not, then don't.. you'll never perform well.. -
You are right.
We can't actually hold a grudge on nti forever. it will not only make us mentally disorder, it also make our life more miserable...
However! we, as a victim of nti, we should show our generousity and caring for others. we should inform other people who want to join nti to stop. we should also stop those agents from making further mistakes. -
PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''!
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Yupz...passion to do one likes is one thing. Passion to scam, or rather, being duped into unknowingly scamming somebody else is quite anotherOriginally posted by MYHo:To Each his Own.
People in MLM will say that MLM shows good prospect. That's their beliefs... and that they love making money!
Different people have different ways of making money, e.g I can be taking over my father's chicken rice stall, making it big by franchising it globally and earning big bucks ! not only in MLM..
Some don't even care about earning big money, like musicians.. they play/perform for their passion not for money..
Peace out everyone...
pls don't give negative comments if you don't believe in it(e.g. a Buddists vs Christians vs muslims, it's never ending!)I'm and not interested in doing business the MLM way neither do I believe the system, but that's my say, me..
When I say that I'm not interested, don't say that I am negative/dunno what I want in my life/ spouting personal insults. I don't believe your company teaches you that! you will just create a worst image on yourself and your company.
Seriously, I'm really impressed with the system... but, I don't like it.. that's my opinion
It will be good if you believe it and surge all out to it. it applies to everything you wanna do.. if you got the passion, go ahead! if not, then don't.. you'll never perform well.. -
I rather you don't, just look at yourself! after reading this book, you seemed totally engross into it. no benefits or commission i suppose, but you still promoting it like a lunatic...Originally posted by FFROSE:PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''! 
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PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''!Originally posted by Neutrend:I rather you don't, just look at yourself! after reading this book, you seemed totally engross into it. no benefits or commission i suppose, but you still promoting it like a lunatic... -
I cant agree on this. To increase their income, MLMers still need to convince people to join. Otherwise they wont survive. So we can leave MLMers to their ideas and beliefs, trust me, they need ur money.Originally posted by MYHo:To Each his Own.
People in MLM will say that MLM shows good prospect. That's their beliefs... and that they love making money!
Different people have different ways of making money, e.g I can be taking over my father's chicken rice stall, making it big by franchising it globally and earning big bucks ! not only in MLM..
Some don't even care about earning big money, like musicians.. they play/perform for their passion not for money..
Peace out everyone...
pls don't give negative comments if you don't believe in it(e.g. a Buddists vs Christians vs muslims, it's never ending!)I'm and not interested in doing business the MLM way neither do I believe the system, but that's my say, me..
When I say that I'm not interested, don't say that I am negative/dunno what I want in my life/ spouting personal insults. I don't believe your company teaches you that! you will just create a worst image on yourself and your company.
Seriously, I'm really impressed with the system... but, I don't like it.. that's my opinion
It will be good if you believe it and surge all out to it. it applies to everything you wanna do.. if you got the passion, go ahead! if not, then don't.. you'll never perform well.. -
Haiz... When did u really agree? My Coward MLM Professor...Originally posted by laurence82:I cant agree on this. To increase their income, MLMers still need to convince people to join. Otherwise they wont survive. So we can leave MLMers to their ideas and beliefs, trust me, they need ur money. -
Just wondering whether you have your answer by now?Originally posted by Cazz:Hi all,
i guess you all has heard a lot of NTI, got pple say good and bad things about it. Can someone pls enlighten me whether is good or bad? So far i see is the biz is alright from wat i heard from my friend, the technology also good, then is a very young singapore network marketing company.
I also heard about the NOP related to NTI, i heard pple say NOP is a scam or fraun, if so how come the main person behind NOP is still alright and still set up NTI? Maybe is not a scam or fraud? Pls enlighten me? From wat i see is that i been to the place brought down by my friend, the place is very vibrant in the sense of a lot of young pple which i find it better cos is more "clickable" with young pple for me as i belong to the young group, and very positive enviorment compared to other mlm companies i been to.
And also i read in the forums about the pyramid thingy, i research about it and NTI i not sure about it but so far it has products and the products are not bad either, got feng shui stuffs, skincare, privilage card, and theirs is binary plan similar to USANA, who also did very well in network marketing. Maybe the price to start the biz is a bit expensive i guess, thats the bad point i guess? Pls enlighten me if wat i research is wrong? Cos i intend to join a network marketing company to learn and get a 2nd income for myself, and so many companies, NTI is far is one of my shortlisted companies i plan to join, still got some others like NuSkin, Usana.
Enlighten Me Pls!
You may like to read this http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/pyramids/pyramids.html
Then you come back and tell us what do you see! -
this topic suppose to be a debate, because itself is a question, good or bad, and obviously anti-nti have won. why? because there were only idiots finding it good and use stupid ways to support themselves. one is keep calling people to read book, another insult people - calling cowards around as if very funny.
haiz, totally spoiled the real purpose of this topic -
PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''!Originally posted by Neutrend:this topic suppose to be a debate, because itself is a question, good or bad, and obviously anti-nti have won. why? because there were only idiots finding it good and use stupid ways to support themselves. one is keep calling people to read book, another insult people - calling cowards around as if very funny.
haiz, totally spoiled the real purpose of this topic -
no hope already you...
seemed like nti really train a bunch of lunatics... haiz... poor fella you are still so young.. -
PLS READ "HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE" and maybe FFROSE you will know 2 things:Originally posted by FFROSE:PLS READ '' HOW TO WIN FREINDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE''!
1) To win friends and influence people is not by shouting the name of the book over and over again
2) Friends is not spelled as F.R.E.I.N.D.S -
I find that there are always comment on NTI, but none willing to step out to make a report on them, so, what the point on all this?
Next, people tend to get into those anti-MLM website to get their info there. Why don't you try to get your hand on those MLM trainer who had already retired and ask them how this industry work? There are many who you can contact such as John Bremner, Robert Natiuk, Don Failla, etc. -
U sure no complaints have been forwarded to CASE, DSAS or even CAD?Originally posted by angang:I find that there are always comment on NTI, but none willing to step out to make a report on them, so, what the point on all this?
Next, people tend to get into those anti-MLM website to get their info there. Why don't you try to get your hand on those MLM trainer who had already retired and ask them how this industry work? There are many who you can contact such as John Bremner, Robert Natiuk, Don Failla, etc.
And is the main issue at hand anti MLM, or anti scams?
Also, do quote and reply to specific issues people have with MLM. Please dont swim around and avoid them by using the same old 'Ask a fishmonger how to fillet a fish' tactic.
It will help you too, when you meet prospects and they want some specific questions to be answered. -
wa lau... still talking about MLM ah...
now the whole world is talking about NKF!!!
Lets save some breath to shoot that NKF, CEO of NKF and Mrs Goh...
Right? -
AFter CAO, ACCCS, Citiraya and NKF cases, the public would focus a lot more on organisations that suck their money.Originally posted by MLM Victim:wa lau... still talking about MLM ah...
now the whole world is talking about NKF!!!
Lets save some breath to shoot that NKF, CEO of NKF and Mrs Goh...
Right?
After what nti did to so many ex agents..... -
what's the point of reporting? the authorites say what? " it is not illegal what" then you LPPL? they are doings evils, but not crimes, the law cannot do anything to them! so what we post in this forum is just to prevent more innocent people to become their victims. hard to say for those people who like to scam people, but what we hope is anyone after their presentation want to consider at home and find sources on the internet can see our post and give them some opinionOriginally posted by angang:I find that there are always comment on NTI, but none willing to step out to make a report on them, so, what the point on all this?
Next, people tend to get into those anti-MLM website to get their info there. Why don't you try to get your hand on those MLM trainer who had already retired and ask them how this industry work? There are many who you can contact such as John Bremner, Robert Natiuk, Don Failla, etc. -
NTI topic had been going on here for long, and even my friends feel that this is might not the place to be. We have given advice, and even to mention who do you to look for if you need for info on MLM...that all we can do. You can go on to whin, complain. However, there are still people going to be successful. Remember, in Singapore, every 100 people, there is 1 millionaires. Of course, they don't make their success in MLM, but some do.Originally posted by laurence82:U sure no complaints have been forwarded to CASE, DSAS or even CAD?
And is the main issue at hand anti MLM, or anti scams?
Also, do quote and reply to specific issues people have with MLM. Please dont swim around and avoid them by using the same old 'Ask a fishmonger how to fillet a fish' tactic.
It will help you too, when you meet prospects and they want some specific questions to be answered. -
we are talking about NTI...not MLM.Originally posted by MLM Victim:wa lau... still talking about MLM ah...
now the whole world is talking about NKF!!!
Lets save some breath to shoot that NKF, CEO of NKF and Mrs Goh...
Right?
why? you afraid we keep talking about your company huh? -
I think, a lot of people dont read properly.Originally posted by angang:NTI topic had been going on here for long, and even my friends feel that this is might not the place to be. We have given advice, and even to mention who do you to look for if you need for info on MLM...that all we can do. You can go on to whin, complain. However, there are still people going to be successful. Remember, in Singapore, every 100 people, there is 1 millionaires. Of course, they don't make their success in MLM, but some do.
Many a times, forumers asked other forumers whats their stand. I have neither said i am pro or anti MLMer. My standard reply have always been - the MLM industry in sg is loosely regulated.
Whine? Complain? Or pointing out something wrong?
Do you know MLM industry has one main problem other industries dont have - professional image and education. Its not all MLM companies will have such a problem, but the problem is ubiquitous in companies, especially those who attracts the youngs.
When I asked a question, I expected an answer to the question. Many became defensive, started blaberring about rich poor theories and models they read in books, took it personally and avoid the issue by character assasinations....
You know, at the end, I dont get answers. I am not interested in rich poor reality, i am interested in what your company is, how it is performing etc...how will it bring benefits to me...
And the way you go on, by using wishy washy statement like 100 people, 1 will become a millionaire, doesnt show obviously how and why people will succeed, MLM or not. -
NTI people are taught to divert questions away.. because they themselves dont even have the answer!
they joined NTI blindly without knowing what the heck is going on in NTI. what they heard is only stories about james phang..their RSDs etc.. and nothing else..
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i'm former a manager in NTI and i'm very disgusted by the way the company run everything. i feel guilty after cheating my friends to invest so much money into this company... i'm too naive previously... i thought the company is really teaching me to be a businessman..but after i found out the truth.. they are simply using me and my friends to help them earn money. those sweet talks and motivations are simply trying to make me and my friends to fight harder for them. the RSDs are not making alot of money as what the company have projected to us. its all a setup to paint nice picture to lure youngster like us into believing and invested our savings into them. i really feel cheated after finding out the truth.. please, dont follow my footsteps. i feel very sad to lose my friends who are trying hard to get me out of NTI.
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Think you don't understand my reply. Ok, you want to know about MLM, shot your questions, and I make sure they are answer, by industry expert.Originally posted by laurence82:I think, a lot of people dont read properly.
Many a times, forumers asked other forumers whats their stand. I have neither said i am pro or anti MLMer. My standard reply have always been - the MLM industry in sg is loosely regulated.
Whine? Complain? Or pointing out something wrong?
Do you know MLM industry has one main problem other industries dont have - professional image and education. Its not all MLM companies will have such a problem, but the problem is ubiquitous in companies, especially those who attracts the youngs.
When I asked a question, I expected an answer to the question. Many became defensive, started blaberring about rich poor theories and models they read in books, took it personally and avoid the issue by character assasinations....
You know, at the end, I dont get answers. I am not interested in rich poor reality, i am interested in what your company is, how it is performing etc...how will it bring benefits to me...
And the way you go on, by using wishy washy statement like 100 people, 1 will become a millionaire, doesnt show obviously how and why people will succeed, MLM or not.