NTI PARIS GOOD OR BAD?
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Hi all,
i guess you all has heard a lot of NTI, got pple say good and bad things about it. Can someone pls enlighten me whether is good or bad? So far i see is the biz is alright from wat i heard from my friend, the technology also good, then is a very young singapore network marketing company.
I also heard about the NOP related to NTI, i heard pple say NOP is a scam or fraun, if so how come the main person behind NOP is still alright and still set up NTI? Maybe is not a scam or fraud? Pls enlighten me? From wat i see is that i been to the place brought down by my friend, the place is very vibrant in the sense of a lot of young pple which i find it better cos is more "clickable" with young pple for me as i belong to the young group, and very positive enviorment compared to other mlm companies i been to.
And also i read in the forums about the pyramid thingy, i research about it and NTI i not sure about it but so far it has products and the products are not bad either, got feng shui stuffs, skincare, privilage card, and theirs is binary plan similar to USANA, who also did very well in network marketing. Maybe the price to start the biz is a bit expensive i guess, thats the bad point i guess? Pls enlighten me if wat i research is wrong? Cos i intend to join a network marketing company to learn and get a 2nd income for myself, and so many companies, NTI is far is one of my shortlisted companies i plan to join, still got some others like NuSkin, Usana.
Enlighten Me Pls! -
Good, tell us all about it in three months time
Rem, dont disappear like the n number of people who said the same thing hor...i do miss them very much...
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aiyah lawrence say that for very long liao la. tok kok onli. oh by the way i will be disappearing soon. not like some ppl got alot of time to come here 24/7.
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i need true comments not tok cok... cos i still deciding to join mlm or not... thanks i need more professional advice... from networkers from all mlm companies... tell me more...
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Welcome to take a look at Network marketing. Yes, is good that you treat network marketing as 2nd income. First, I'm in no position to discuss more about NTI as I'm not the distributor there and had not get in touch with them before. Here what I know - NOP had been around many years ago, around 90s. My mum was once a distrubutor there, also, I had know many people there, like Mr. Chew, Benny, etc. Mr Chew was the TOP earner. Then, A.Mag, is also another company. It seem they have some inter-link. As for NTI, you have to do your own research, if not, let me know more details, like company details, products, price list, compensation plan, and support that they give. Most industry expert will do this for a fees, but not me - I'll do it for you free.Originally posted by Cazz:Hi all,
i guess you all has heard a lot of NTI, got pple say good and bad things about it. Can someone pls enlighten me whether is good or bad? So far i see is the biz is alright from wat i heard from my friend, the technology also good, then is a very young singapore network marketing company.
I also heard about the NOP related to NTI, i heard pple say NOP is a scam or fraun, if so how come the main person behind NOP is still alright and still set up NTI? Maybe is not a scam or fraud? Pls enlighten me? From wat i see is that i been to the place brought down by my friend, the place is very vibrant in the sense of a lot of young pple which i find it better cos is more "clickable" with young pple for me as i belong to the young group, and very positive enviorment compared to other mlm companies i been to.
And also i read in the forums about the pyramid thingy, i research about it and NTI i not sure about it but so far it has products and the products are not bad either, got feng shui stuffs, skincare, privilage card, and theirs is binary plan similar to USANA, who also did very well in network marketing. Maybe the price to start the biz is a bit expensive i guess, thats the bad point i guess? Pls enlighten me if wat i research is wrong? Cos i intend to join a network marketing company to learn and get a 2nd income for myself, and so many companies, NTI is far is one of my shortlisted companies i plan to join, still got some others like NuSkin, Usana.
Enlighten Me Pls!
Now, about Nuskin, I know about this before it come into Singapore, a great company with well reputation. But it seem some of the people here does not really follow how the system works down in States. But, still, worth looking at. If you are looking at Nuskin, you need to be sure you have a passion on their products. Now, USANA, I also know about this company before it come into Singapore. I also personally know some ex-USANA leader such as Sue Seward, Daren Falter, Rod Nichols,...also Dallin Larsen who was a ex-VP of USANA...too much to list in details. If you ask any USANA Distributor, they know them. USANA's compensation plan had been listed as GOLD 3 years in a row over in the States. A great compensation plan, with great products.
Hopes this help. ANy other matter what you need, feel free to get in touch with me. -
Trust me...use the money (<$1000) for Thursday's ToTo)...the chances of seeing $$$ is higher than joining NTI....Originally posted by Cazz:Hi all,
i guess you all has heard a lot of NTI, got pple say good and bad things about it. Can someone pls enlighten me whether is good or bad? So far i see is the biz is alright from wat i heard from my friend, the technology also good, then is a very young singapore network marketing company.
I also heard about the NOP related to NTI, i heard pple say NOP is a scam or fraun, if so how come the main person behind NOP is still alright and still set up NTI? Maybe is not a scam or fraud? Pls enlighten me? From wat i see is that i been to the place brought down by my friend, the place is very vibrant in the sense of a lot of young pple which i find it better cos is more "clickable" with young pple for me as i belong to the young group, and very positive enviorment compared to other mlm companies i been to.
And also i read in the forums about the pyramid thingy, i research about it and NTI i not sure about it but so far it has products and the products are not bad either, got feng shui stuffs, skincare, privilage card, and theirs is binary plan similar to USANA, who also did very well in network marketing. Maybe the price to start the biz is a bit expensive i guess, thats the bad point i guess? Pls enlighten me if wat i research is wrong? Cos i intend to join a network marketing company to learn and get a 2nd income for myself, and so many companies, NTI is far is one of my shortlisted companies i plan to join, still got some others like NuSkin, Usana.
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oh yeah.. i love toto.
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gotta agreeOriginally posted by dcx:Trust me...use the money (<$1000) for Thursday's ToTo)...the chances of seeing $$$ is higher than joining NTI....
when told reasons specifically nti isnt what it is, they slam us with chunks of 'why poor never get rich' goooblegook
they get pissed off when we dont follow them, and the issue isnt abt getting rich really...its abt not getting scammed -
Hi , i think regarding nti, u can consider the company, but its important for u to choose a right group... theres alot of group in the company, some do things in right way, but some doesn't ... Nti is not a bad company its because of some member inside uses some methods that make other dislike ... so u can consider it, but pls choose a good group which will really teach u on the biz and guide u, fight with u and not pushing u for sales only ...
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Be reminded all business' main aim is to earn profits, and one of the means is to earn their way thru your heart, whether you are an employee or a MLM distributor.
No doubt some bosses are genuinely kind hearted, but it pretty irks me whenever people keep talking along the line of good and bad, ethics. moral courage and so on, rather than business ethics, for example, providing good quality products to customers, prompt payment of income due etc etc...
It worsen, to the point of labelling a company good coy, bad coy, good people, bad people...
As long as there are masses, even if not all of the groups in a MLM coy behave in an undesirable way, that means the coy is losing control of its distributors. In the long term, the company may not be able to make it, as it loses it image, and hosts of agents and customers leave the company.
Besides, nti management has never been honest or trustworthy. Look at the number of people leaving in droves, the number of requests for refunds, the number of victims, plus the continual change of refund policy whenever someone try to get his refund, and till the contract says no refund at all, which is illegal under the MLM Act.
When the last i look at the timetable, only one or two day was reserved for so called product seminar. The rest was many of those 'Hitler fire-torch-like' shows. The whole scheme was not abt pushing for products or services, but to recruit as many people as possible, each could possibly be throwing thousands of dollars, and refused refunds, and labelling it 'good business or investment opportunity.
When i said, join in and see whether you have earned from it, THAT is alredi professional advice, unless the professional advice you wanted is solely people who will agree with u. -
Yslysl, u seem to know a lot abt mlm, how about Amway, please tell us more.Originally posted by yslysl:Welcome to take a look at Network marketing. Yes, is good that you treat network marketing as 2nd income. First, I'm in no position to discuss more about NTI as I'm not the distributor there and had not get in touch with them before. Here what I know - NOP had been around many years ago, around 90s. My mum was once a distrubutor there, also, I had know many people there, like Mr. Chew, Benny, etc. Mr Chew was the TOP earner. Then, A.Mag, is also another company. It seem they have some inter-link. As for NTI, you have to do your own research, if not, let me know more details, like company details, products, price list, compensation plan, and support that they give. Most industry expert will do this for a fees, but not me - I'll do it for you free.
Now, about Nuskin, I know about this before it come into Singapore, a great company with well reputation. But it seem some of the people here does not really follow how the system works down in States. But, still, worth looking at. If you are looking at Nuskin, you need to be sure you have a passion on their products. Now, USANA, I also know about this company before it come into Singapore. I also personally know some ex-USANA leader such as Sue Seward, Daren Falter, Rod Nichols,...also Dallin Larsen who was a ex-VP of USANA...too much to list in details. If you ask any USANA Distributor, they know them. USANA's compensation plan had been listed as GOLD 3 years in a row over in the States. A great compensation plan, with great products.
Hopes this help. ANy other matter what you need, feel free to get in touch with me. -
NTI is not a bad MLM company. It's not even a MLM company in the first place! This is a place where they overload you with promises but once you get in, you can't get out! Refund is near impossible , and they will tell you to recruit more so as to earn back your money! Get out!!!
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u seems to have a very bad impression of nti ... -.-Originally posted by linzhiling:NTI is not a bad MLM company. It's not even a MLM company in the first place! This is a place where they overload you with promises but once you get in, you can't get out! Refund is near impossible , and they will tell you to recruit more so as to earn back your money! Get out!!! -
It seems that he's not the only one....Originally posted by LegacyMan:u seems to have a very bad impression of nti ... -.- -
Last week, my friend brought me to NTI located in Shenton Way. I was introduced to a manager call Mr Melvin from the SANCTUARY group whom I thought that he had presented in a very professsional way.
On the contrary to what most say about this company, I was never pressurised to join them or buy any product. When I told them that I need to consider first, they were very friendly and told me to consider carefully to join them. Then I went home that day without joining them. This is surprisingly to me because I had actually read about this company before going there.
Also, I was shown that their leaders from SANCTUARY group had actually expanded their market in China.
Unlike other MLM companies such as COSLAB, VENTURE ERA and DW,that kept asking their uplines to talk to me and pressure me to buy their product, it was so pressurising. They refused to let me go and I was like being "locked up" for hours in these companies! Then my friend kept calling me and told me how much $ he have earned and 'forced' me to join him.
When I asked about overseas expansion, they didn't mention a thing to me. Told me that it's still under planning stage.
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Good for ya
The next step is to make sure you and your downlines do earn back the money you and them put in. -
thats good!! join NTI!!!!Originally posted by Ms Prickly Heat:Last week, my friend brought me to NTI located in Shenton Way. I was introduced to a manager call Mr Melvin from the SANCTUARY group whom I thought that he had presented in a very professsional way.
On the contrary to what most say about this company, I was never pressurised to join them or buy any product. When I told them that I need to consider first, they were very friendly and told me to consider carefully to join them. Then I went home that day without joining them. This is surprisingly to me because I had actually read about this company before going there.
Also, I was shown that their leaders from SANCTUARY group had actually expanded their market in China.
Unlike other MLM companies such as COSLAB, VENTURE ERA and DW,that kept asking their uplines to talk to me and pressure me to buy their product, it was so pressurising. They refused to let me go and I was like being "locked up" for hours in these companies! Then my friend kept calling me and told me how much $ he have earned and 'forced' me to join him.
When I asked about overseas expansion, they didn't mention a thing to me. Told me that it's still under planning stage.
by the way, you dont have to use such technique to cover up NTI...
i really don't understand why nowadays, NTI dont dare to say they from NTI..instead act like third parties to score points for them.
either they are shame of their NTI or they trying to con people again..
HAIZ -
I am not covering and I am just stating the facts. I am not ashamed of saying that I am one of them now. Can the people here justify what was said? Are all these really the truth? Do they have to be responsible to what they say?Originally posted by Alex Wong:thats good!! join NTI!!!!
by the way, you dont have to use such technique to cover up NTI...
i really don't understand why nowadays, NTI dont dare to say they from NTI..instead act like third parties to score points for them.
either they are shame of their NTI or they trying to con people again..
HAIZ
Even those news reported in the newspaper are not 100% factually correct, less say about forum where people can bash anything they FEEL is correct!
Stop BRAINWASHING those readers here about conning people. As I mentioned in my other posts, there will be still BAD eggs around and I believe NTI does have these people.
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Why until today 50 yrs later, we still have ppl murdering ppl, even chop their bodies up?
So... you are one of them now huh, no wonder if keep saying good stuff about them. Coz if u dont protect them, it's like not protecting ur identy of who u are. If u r proud to be one of them, good for you!! let's see how smart you are, how many months or years it will take for you to realise u've made a terrible mistake -
i think everyone make their own choice, why should u all keep flaming him just becos he joined NTI and comment here? frankly whethers NTI is gd anot is for those who joined and try the biz to comments, not others who nv joined but keep giving remark that we dun even know whether its the truth ... i am toking as a neutral side, not siding anyone ... just hope u guys think abt this before u all post a reply ...
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hhaaa. i just playing around. very shiok
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Yes, I agree with you that there will still be crime but if the practise is illegal, why do we have an association in Singapore? There must be something that people does not understand or misuse it.Originally posted by leddy:Why until today 50 yrs later, we still have ppl murdering ppl, even chop their bodies up?
So... you are one of them now huh, no wonder if keep saying good stuff about them. Coz if u dont protect them, it's like not protecting ur identy of who u are. If u r proud to be one of them, good for you!! let's see how smart you are, how many months or years it will take for you to realise u've made a terrible mistake
I don't consider myself smart. But I will be here to clarify any doubt if need be. Whether it's a terrible mistake or not, I consider myself a lesson learnt. Afterall, if there are people out there who have proven that they can earn big bucks, why don't I give myself a chance?
It's a small investment afterall compared to those thousands of dollars to set up a business. Logical?
Why don't I give it a shot while I am still young, rather than wasting my time here to fight with people about what so BAD about MLM 24/7? -
on this note, i agree with u. U are just giving it a try and see if it works for you. plus u are young, so why not... good or bad, just learn from it right. I agree with you. At least you are doing something, rather than those come in here, never join mlm b4 but keep insulting say mlm sucks... ppl like me... I apologise if I offended you.
However, I just can't stop laughing....hhahaa...........hhahaaaa.............hhahaaaaaaaaaaaa
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! -
To Cazz:
The person behind NOP is still around because he cheats all his downline $$, closed down the company and opened new companies.
If you really must join this new company, just make sure that you can recruit more people to buy the packages, or else there is no way to get back your $$.
Also, if they have new investments that you may require to pump in more $$, dun do it immediately, wait til the project has took off and is stable, then invest if you can again ask more people to do like wise.
i personnally was a victim of Mr James Phang well-designed scams. I am not a salesperson, just a purchaser...... But his projects never take place!!!! and i ended up paying for things that are never completed. Mr Phang, if you are reading (i doubt so, as you must be thinkg of more scams to cheat pple), i want to let you know that there is a group of pple who really hate you and we are hoping that you will fail and never can harm pple again.
As for his management, Desmond and Jackie, i know them personnally as well. If you want to earn as much as them, you may want to consider working at MacDonalds instead who may be paying more and afterall, you will not be harming pple. -
Originally posted by Ms Prickly Heat:
Go do what you feel it's right...no one can stop you if you've yoru mindset in it..for you do not feel that it's a scam...some others feel so becoz they've experienced it themselves...Why won't these people wana oppose against mlm companies, such as this NTI...Perphaps you may ask yourself this question then....
I am not covering and [b]I am just stating the facts. I am not ashamed of saying that I am one of them now. Can the people here justify what was said? Are all these really the truth? Do they have to be responsible to what they say?
Even those news reported in the newspaper are not 100% factually correct, less say about forum where people can bash anything they FEEL is correct!
Stop BRAINWASHING those readers here about conning people. As I mentioned in my other posts, there will be still BAD eggs around and I believe NTI does have these people.
Why till today, for almost 2 years, NTI still exists? [/b]
It doesn't benefit anyone of them opposing against mlm companies such as NTI...they dun gain anything, they dun earn...
Yes..it's true that they're already expanding into China market..be known that this "oversea"expansion has already started abt 2yrs ago for NTI (Formerly known as "xxxxxx", i won't state the former name).
Spore's too small to marketise their "business"...that's y they expand into China...
I'm wondering if now NTI has pay their "workers" basic salary or not...
If anyone of you(Aged between 17~26) in NTI is thinking that NTI's very successful becoz it's expanding in China market and that's the "foresight" u all see in NTI has in the future, well...good luck to you..becoz as far as i can see..NTI's penetrating into China but most of the NTI's members still stuck in Spore....So, what has it got to do with you even though if NTI's penetrating into China? (Mind you, the China market's pie are for those Pioneer batches, however, not all....)
Well..you seriously go n think about it yourself...i'm not against you joining or been part of NTI...anyone's free to do what they feel is right....
Btw, if anyone of you think that by not stressing you for any sales make you feel comfortable or the company's not pressurizing you and still can talk nicely to you..hMz..u call that sales? Expanding? Result-Oriented? Vision? Mind-set? Capabilities? Never Say Die attitude? SUCCESSFUL?????
No one has ever answer me the questions which i've brought up years ago...if the Boss of NTI & his upper managements also can't answer my questions, what makes you think his employees/downlines can?