Nop,E.Dynamic,Nti,Empire Dream,CareCrop,Coslab,Astral Int.
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All these networking company belong to Mr JP.
NOP have close down becoz of Magic Kingdom Incident at 2001 to 2003
check it out at the SUNDAY TIMES DEC 19 2003
E.Dynamic,Nti,Empire Dream,CareCrop,Coslab
-- All using Binary System --
Must Balance yr Left and Right sale volume
If no balance , no $$$ given to u . what happen to the rest of the $$$
The company will take it .
Astral International Network
-- using Fix 1-5-25-125-625
That mean u only can recruit 5 ppl only , the no.6 ppl u recruit , u must throw down . And u earn $100 each of every downline u recruit .
WHY MR JP OPEN NUMBEROUS OF NETWORK COMPANY USING DIFFERENT SYSYEM ??
WHY ??
ANY COMMENT ??
IS IT A SCAM ???
HEARD THAT ALL WANT TO MERGE TOGETHER ?? -
thank for warning other those mlm , maybe u can recommend those good binary mlm company , thank .
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Pardon me, i doubt MLM can recommend you one. NW is a leader based industry, how can you have true leverage when you only got 2, and that may be the reason why some ppl start to start their company with a different sys. hahaha..... HUI TO SHI AN. -
If i'm the boss, i will definitely choose binary to earn quick money...
because
1) its easier to convince NAIVE / LOW IQ people that recruiting 2 people is a easier way to succeed.
2) setup a rule to balance the right and the left because as the organisational get deeper and deeper, there is no way it can balance!
3) ask everyone to read RICH DAD POOR DAD, to divert the attention of being a SCAM company.
4) low startup cost for boss because no much training is needed to provide for the agents... just listen to my speech and some motivation can already.
5) since low startup cost and not much commitment to the agents, i can anytime close shop and run away with money easily.
6) with my powerful psyco power, i can cheat those young kids like 16, 17 years old to believe my company.
7) if my prospect question about SGFORUM, i can rebuke those people are anti-MLM and cover up my scam.
i can fake my company is an ISO, DSAS member because TALK IS FREE! so those NAIVE people will believe me for a temporary time, long enough for me to cheat all their money! -
I totally agree with alex
anyway, coslab belongs to James Phang?
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hahaha
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I heard from my friends that , all these company open by Mr JP have been merge already.
So sad and happy to heard that 
Another bubbles will come and burst soon .
Sad sad sad
Happy happy happy
Any comment
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Coslab & Astral Mag are not even under JP, so how can he merge when the boss is not him and their main company's name is changed to Enyouth?
Plus NOP has folded years ago, can I know how?
Plus where will all the top leaders in each company be? Who under who?
Btw who is Carecop? Not registered in Singapore companies' record.
Why will he fold when it's a bigger hassel to merge all companies than fold up.
Unless he open a new one & start a fresh new company all over again. That will cost him a bomb to do such stuff.
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he changed the name to NOP International, not sure if that coy folded after the Batam Resort hooha....Originally posted by jojoma:Coslab & Astral Mag are not even under JP, so how can he merge when the boss is not him and their main company's name is changed to Enyouth?
Plus NOP has folded years ago, can I know how?
Plus where will all the top leaders in each company be? Who under who?
Btw who is Carecop? Not registered in Singapore companies' record.
Why will he fold when it's a bigger hassel to merge all companies than fold up.
Unless he open a new one & start a fresh new company all over again. That will cost him a bomb to do such stuff.
I don think he will, what about the rest? What do you think? -
Astral international network is belong to JPOriginally posted by jojoma:Coslab & Astral Mag are not even under JP, so how can he merge when the boss is not him and their main company's name is changed to Enyouth?
Plus NOP has folded years ago, can I know how?
Plus where will all the top leaders in each company be? Who under who?
Btw who is Carecop? Not registered in Singapore companies' record.
Why will he fold when it's a bigger hassel to merge all companies than fold up.
Unless he open a new one & start a fresh new company all over again. That will cost him a bomb to do such stuff.
I don think he will, what about the rest? What do you think?
Astral int and Astral mag is a difference company belong to difference boss. -
Already folded up after the hooha and legal closing process has been done. I think in 2004.Originally posted by laurence82:he changed the name to NOP International, not sure if that coy folded after the Batam Resort hooha.... -
I read the name too fast.Originally posted by mlm:Astral international network is belong to JP
Astral int and Astral mag is a difference company belong to difference boss. -
for ur info astral int belongs to hillary phang not james phangOriginally posted by mlm:Astral international network is belong to JP
Astral int and Astral mag is a difference company belong to difference boss.
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ha ha lance... do you know what you are talking? find out the ultimate truth b4 you jump to defend.... i believe you are also one of the seed use on the chessboard.
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simply, u mean all companies are under him, but is not registered under his name?Originally posted by pacer: ha ha lance... do you know what you are talking? find out the ultimate truth b4 you jump to defend.... i believe you are also one of the seed use on the chessboard. -
Originally posted by mlm:
He uses Binary because of all the reasons given by others. Key thing is binary is easiest to explain and fastest to work and in a way makes the most money for the MLM company owner, the MLMers will forever have to try to balance both sides and now and then they will find their money being returned to the company.
All these networking company belong to Mr JP.
[b]NOP have close down becoz of Magic Kingdom Incident at 2001 to 2003
check it out at the SUNDAY TIMES DEC 19 2003
E.Dynamic,Nti,Empire Dream,CareCrop,Coslab
-- All using Binary System --
Must Balance yr Left and Right sale volume
If no balance , no $$$ given to u . what happen to the rest of the $$$
The company will take it .
Astral International Network
-- using Fix 1-5-25-125-625
That mean u only can recruit 5 ppl only , the no.6 ppl u recruit , u must throw down . And u earn $100 each of every downline u recruit .
WHY MR JP OPEN NUMBEROUS OF NETWORK COMPANY USING DIFFERENT SYSYEM ??
WHY ??
ANY COMMENT ??
IS IT A SCAM ???
HEARD THAT ALL WANT TO MERGE TOGETHER ??
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As for the Fix 1-5-25-125-625, it is actually a Forced Matrix System (FMS) used to intentionally force out a pyramid structure that would otherwise exist on paper because in reality, no network organization is a perfect pyramid left to its own growth. So effectively, the 625 people on 5th level will pay money every month to feed everyone above them, and they all have to each find 5 other people to get them to pay every month and get their downlines to keep recruiting.
So if a "FMS 5x5" is eventually allowed to work out perfectly, the whole world's population of over 4 billion people will be recruited into the system and this MLM company, in a matter of half a year.
It is the same concept the Ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes work on. -
lution... I somehow agree to what you say. the sys is quite similar to quest 88 ( ban by sg gov). If is pyramid, then is illegal. i go and check it out.
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mlm morons. +1
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Yes, it is similiar to quest 88 like what you said. The perfect pyramid situation is the ideal dream for MLM owners, unfortunately reality do not go this way easily, hence many companies like this will use FMS.Originally posted by pacer:lution... I somehow agree to what you say. the sys is quite similar to quest 88 ( ban by sg gov). If is pyramid, then is illegal. i go and check it out.
Think of chain letters, think of other matrix plans, there are signs where it attempts to create this type of FMS structure.
The structure will keep growing until someone below the pyramid realises that they are the suckers, that is where the collapse begins and starts...
... then the ex-MLM owners will move on to start another new MLM company.. taking with them whatever money they have gotten from the current MLMers. -
i think u have misunderstood this international president already, have u bothered to check out their plan as to why they need to have:Originally posted by Alex Wong:If i'm the boss, i will definitely choose binary to earn quick money...
because
1) its easier to convince NAIVE / LOW IQ people that recruiting 2 people is a easier way to succeed.
2) setup a rule to balance the right and the left because as the organisational get deeper and deeper, there is no way it can balance!
3) ask everyone to read RICH DAD POOR DAD, to divert the attention of being a SCAM company.
4) low startup cost for boss because no much training is needed to provide for the agents... just listen to my speech and some motivation can already.
5) since low startup cost and not much commitment to the agents, i can anytime close shop and run away with money easily.
6) with my powerful psyco power, i can cheat those young kids like 16, 17 years old to believe my company.
7) if my prospect question about SGFORUM, i can rebuke those people are anti-MLM and cover up my scam. i can fake my company is an ISO, DSAS member because TALK IS FREE! so those NAIVE people will believe me for a temporary time, long enough for me to cheat all their money!
1) binary system? - knows why this is set up in this way? its to help one another in business, let me ask u one question, IF u were to do a Business, if u wanna do a BIG BUSINESS, can u be the ONE AND ONLY PERSON in the company and still can earn alot? be realistic lah, u will need man power
as for why binary and not mlm, coz mlm, is not really finding business partner, they juz recuit u into the company and throw u aside, i have being conned into a mlm company for their talk lah, so i noe, and do u know that mlm has break away, so if there is this break away in mlm, will the person u recuit help u? or fight for promotion and earn more commission?
as for binary, its like helping one and other, coz in binary, they only have two legs, and they also can earn alot, imagine, u managing 5-7 lines compared to 2 lines?. which is a easiler job? and by having 2 lines, u have to help ur friend, by helping ur fren, ur fren will see that u are a good fren and also helping him to earn money also, OF COURSE by helping him, u are also helping urself, so if this is the case, why not choose to help 2 people ; u and ur frenz in binary system compared to a selfish plan MLM which is u help urself only, makes sense?
its like u have lots of cars and maintence to pay, can u really afford all those, ( not hard feeling, but u just can't anyhow penalise a company without knowing the facts!!)
2)read books such as Rich Dad Poor Dad?
do u know that the company which i was conned into which is a mlm company, i shall not say its name, so as to not ruin its reputation as its not professional to say other companies. they also recommend Rich Dad Poor Dad, and if u didnt read the newspapers, lifestyle section, its in the top 10 selling chart almost every week in the bookstores, this type of book is open to all people, why do they network marketing companies recommend this book?
its because they really hold the facts as to how to improve urself in terms of purpose of like, objective of life and of course in terms of money how to manage ur money wisely!!
3)low start-up cost
why not get a low start up cost to earn money, if u are given the chance to do business, would u wan?
i am a typical singaporean and knows that all ppl are KIASU so its normal and not all ppl in singapore are rich, and do u know why poor ppl always be poor and rich will always grow richer? coz the rich knows how to improve themself but the poor only know how to try their luck in toto 4d etc, i myself is born in a poor family and have seen how my mother brother sister is obessed with all this so do u think the poor will always be poor if they keep on buying toto 4d, and the chances of them striking toto 4d is 1 out if 4 million in singapore population, not even 0.1%. so isn't this a waste of money, thus the poor wun get rich. if u wan all the reasons: send me an give me ur email, i will send 10 reasons as to why the poor will always be poor and why the rich will always be rich!!
4)pysco power is this the case?
are they really pysco ppl?
not true, they are juz laying the facts. its the same for both mlm and binary companies
5) sgforum- is this a reliable source in the first place?
this is a place where ppl hear feedbacks den post it here, they haven even worked in any companies to begin with and there u trust all the things which are posted in here? what a joke? be more racitional a bit lah
i only a 18 yrs guy and know how to think liao lor
6)if the company is out to cheat people, and if u have proof they are cheating people, i do recommend u to call up the police and report the matter, den u will get a Good Citizen Award! wanna try? No proof, dun talk big, when u havn't even went to listen to one of his companies to check out, all u do is to listen to gossips! -
weijian...... my humble advice to you...... why choose a company that only priority itself instead of its ppl, choose a company that plan you to go far. I believe that you are still in the first 3 yrs in Network business, this business if you really want to understand it, takes at least 3 yrs.
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my humble advice to those in NTI too, dun pin all your hopes there, its always good to have more than 1 source of income. Yes i do agree NTI is a great place to learn about sales techniques and stuff. Mr Jackie is a very good teacher. But u guys must understand, in mlm as well as those in the outside world, only just 5% of the ppl will truly earn big bucks while the rest will continue paying the start-up fee and the monthly maintainance fee to support the big earning uplines.
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1) binary system? - knows why this is set up in this way? its to help one another in business, let me ask u one question, IF u were to do a Business, if u wanna do a BIG BUSINESS, can u be the ONE AND ONLY PERSON in the company and still can earn alot? be realistic lah, u will need man power
so does other system like the matrix, they do can help other people without the potential instability of a binary systemas for why binary and not mlm, coz mlm, is not really finding business partner, they juz recuit u into the company and throw u aside, i have being conned into a mlm company for their talk lah, so i noe, and do u know that mlm has break away, so if there is this break away in mlm, will the person u recuit help u? or fight for promotion and earn more commission?
Binary system another MLM system, its not counted as a separate thing altogether...as for binary, its like helping one and other, coz in binary, they only have two legs, and they also can earn alot, imagine, u managing 5-7 lines compared to 2 lines?. which is a easiler job? and by having 2 lines, u have to help ur friend, by helping ur fren, ur fren will see that u are a good fren and also helping him to earn money also, OF COURSE by helping him, u are also helping urself, so if this is the case, why not choose to help 2 people ; u and ur frenz in binary system compared to a selfish plan MLM which is u help urself only, makes sense?
True, but are you sure that in nti people are being helped to further their well being, or the upline pockets onli?2)read books such as Rich Dad Poor Dad?
Recommendations by MLM companies = good? Not true, same goes for books like Brown's Da Vinci Code, sold so popularly that people cannot differentiate the truth or false facts about Catholicsm, potential ground for trouble
do u know that the company which i was conned into which is a mlm company, i shall not say its name, so as to not ruin its reputation as its not professional to say other companies. they also recommend Rich Dad Poor Dad, and if u didnt read the newspapers, lifestyle section, its in the top 10 selling chart almost every week in the bookstores, this type of book is open to all people, why do they network marketing companies recommend this book?3)low start-up cost
dey, Herbalife cost 65 to sign up nia, Infinity2 45 to sign up nia....and all products add up also less than $288
why not get a low start up cost to earn money, if u are given the chance to do business, would u wan?i am a typical singaporean and knows that all ppl are KIASU so its normal and not all ppl in singapore are rich, and do u know why poor ppl always be poor and rich will always grow richer? coz the rich knows how to improve themself but the poor only know how to try their luck in toto 4d etc, i myself is born in a poor family and have seen how my mother brother sister is obessed with all this so do u think the poor will always be poor if they keep on buying toto 4d, and the chances of them striking toto 4d is 1 out if 4 million in singapore population, not even 0.1%. so isn't this a waste of money, thus the poor wun get rich. if u wan all the reasons: send me an give me ur email, i will send 10 reasons as to why the poor will always be poor and why the rich will always be rich!!
will this statement help in pulling customers to nti? it only serve to further your self delusion and antagonistic attitudes towards others. hell, is this what you called marketing? you sound more like an evangelistic churches that demands rather then attracts people to ur coy5) sgforum- is this a reliable source in the first place?
after reading your post above, i think your rationality is a bit of a laugh, i seen way better posts than yours, MLMers and non-MLMers alike
this is a place where ppl hear feedbacks den post it here, they haven even worked in any companies to begin with and there u trust all the things which are posted in here? what a joke? be more racitional a bit lahi only a 18 yrs guy and know how to think liao lor
knwing how to think, is different from knowing how to be rational and reasonable6)if the company is out to cheat people, and if u have proof they are cheating people, i do recommend u to call up the police and report the matter, den u will get a Good Citizen Award! wanna try? No proof, dun talk big, when u havn't even went to listen to one of his companies to check out, all u do is to listen to gossips!
dey, police been reported to, but i guess u placed too much trust in the police system... -
Lau...82, although i do not really like ppl to reply long msg, but for this one you reply, i will say...... solid.
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Dear Weijian,
BRo~ you read too much rich dad poor dad already la. The rich do get richer, but they also get poorer, like wise for the poor. Anyway, so what if a book is best selling? It just meant it's a popular book, but filled with good advice or not is not necessary. Cocaine is so hot selling, but does it mean it's any good? Macdonalds is so hot selling, but does it mean it's very healthy? Anyway, RDPD is on a few best sellers, but doesn't mean it teaches u the correct stuff. If you look at the books reputable financial magazines or institutions recommend, like Forbes, RDPD is not one of them.
It may be New York times best seller, but it doesn't mean much. New York times also not a full fledge financial news paper even it does have some financial news, just like Straits Times is not a full fledge financial newspaper.
Robert Kiyosaki got famous because MLM companies started buying his books in bulk and distribute them. That's why you see he keeps praising how good MLM companies ah. If he doesn't recommend MLM, why would MLM companies buy his books? He may have pointed out some interesting facts about finance in his books but many things written are quite questionable. Read at ur own risk!