Heard of Enyouth?
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Hmm enyouth really is not tt gd not all.
Been to both nti and enyouth be4 le.
In comparison: Both are seemingly gd opp scams, but enyouth is worse off then nti.
1) Enyouth presenter, both presenters who present to me are weak!
2) they dun even hav basic dress sense - manager do presenation wearing coat, shirt(no tie) and cargo pants- its WTH lor!
3)Though products works fine, their payout is low
4)Its a nearly 6year company, but still in singapore, so weak sia.....nti told me they nearly 2 years but hav office in indonesia and going into malaysia soon.
5)From wad i noe of networking, theirs is 1 of the lousiest plan u can ever come across nowadays le.
for nti:they not any better
1)though grand, they charge super high "tax" to join......pls lor 450+ - 3400+.....WTH. then when sae i no money, he said: "correct becoz u no money den we want u to join to make money" Crap man......den keep saying their famous qoute : moneys not a problem, they r the cheapest things u can get here"
2)Dun exactly understand how they going to earn money plan selling plan and not products......their new agents gonna hav a damm hard time to break even
3)Their wad em2all is not realli tt fantastic as my fren said. Its like corked up1,
u go see clothes or games, they showing nothing - which means they dun hav tt certain products yet - basically its juz an shell tt is half-empty. Coz only like 50% of the products are actually available.
But then again gd points they still hav(but onli if u hav $$$ to join): their carfund is more then enyouth by i think 2500 if i not wrong. Coz they payout by USD and hav a fixed exchange rate of 1.7 instead of current 1.6+
2) they are goldmine, which ENY dun hav, and the plan allows downline to overtake uplines who slacks and do nothing.
3)1 obvious 1 would be their dress sense.
They are much much better groomed then tt ENY bunch of typical singaporean. Who even sits in the office in army uniform. Dun hav basic respect 4 their job, so lazy!
4)In nti u are able to withdraw out yr money via the net and transaction anytime u want unlike traditional monthly paychecks
1) however, in ENY u definately earn more in short-term compared to nti, coz selling products definately easier then plan - which means get ppl to join -
Mr wrath_ing, i noe who u are and u noe who i am......
So u have chosen this path......
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enyouth good meh,six years aready,hundreds of people left,tens of DM to SDM left,i choose NTI cause they do not have enyouth problem,if enyouth can made it they aready made it,pls use your brain invest your time to a better place perhad return also better,over lapping so much aready still can see you guys so positive,cockanathon
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didnt know donald's group got jason.. maybe seen u before i forgot.. im also ED but never work there le.. some personal problems.. anyway this whole forum is pointless.. not gonna change anything in the non-digital world of mlm.
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Well, what change do you think wont happen in the non digital world of MLM?Originally posted by NemY:didnt know donald's group got jason.. maybe seen u before i forgot.. im also ED but never work there le.. some personal problems.. anyway this whole forum is pointless.. not gonna change anything in the non-digital world of mlm.
One of the few notable changes I've seen are quite a number of people who got more aware after doing a search on the web as well as this website.
Some changes need not happen as a result of online stuff. For example, in a scam, it doesnt seems long for people to realise they have been conned. -
how come still talking about mlm?i thought it's the wave of the past already?
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not all people siao in gambling or in gaming...so those who realli gambles alot or gaming everyday is like u lor...wasting time only...hahaOriginally posted by DaoSuan:Nope...from Donald's. y? Car Achiever Donald. I've seen how he work with me from his ED position until today he is a car achiever. haiya...say sooo much also no use. I also dunnoe y i'm replying you.
Anyway, don't say until like that lahz.....what "If its soooo good, then everyone in Singapore will quit their job and go into full time?".....den i think, u should take this sentence and brand it on those who keep gambling every monday and thurs for toto and wed, sat and sun for 4D! Isn't it beta this way:"If sure win, then everyone in Singapore should quit their job and gamble full time!"...or why not this way,"If LAN gaming can earn money, then everyone in Singapore should quit their job and play game every day!" etc etc...u see wat i mean? Choose To Be Believe And You Will See, Unfortunately, Often People Choose to See And Then To Believe.
Do you have religion? You believe in GOD, Buddha etc? Believe? You seen them before? No? Then what makes you believe? Coz its that faith, that trust you have in you, like many of us in EY. Dun think u understand. You will only choose to be negative, sceptical. No religion? Good! Because you believe in yourself, you have that faith in yourself. But you think others believe you? They are negative of you! Why? Not happy of what I say? Because you are pratically doing the same thing to EY? Isn't it?
Enuff said. More than wat is supposed to be said. Think before you say, think when u say and think again after you've said. Thats maturity and stop the whining just because YOU can never succeed here or YOU don't believe in succeeding here! Finding reasons and excuses.....argh...normal singaporeans which I can't deny the fact I was and I am like this but I chose not to be like this. Take care guys. Bye!
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GET OUT OF ENYOUTH!!!! the are phycos!!!! if you are in, just listen to what they say but dont believe. pretend you are willing to listen then say you wanna quit. that's it!!! go there see cars can liao no need join.
there got bettle cabiolate, Z4, TT...... -
Enyouth conned who?as a matter of facts its is a good company with a very good boss,those things that i read is all in the past liao,now we changed a lot new logo and etc,i hope you people here stop talking about the past,who dun made mistake i only can say those people who left are unlucky cause they are lousy,not enyouth cant give them what they want is they cant make itOriginally posted by laurence82:Some changes need not happen as a result of online stuff. For example, in a scam, it doesnt seems long for people to realise they have been conned. -
Eh, did i say enyouth con somebody?Originally posted by endless sky:Enyouth conned who?as a matter of facts its is a good company with a very good boss,those things that i read is all in the past liao,now we changed a lot new logo and etc,i hope you people here stop talking about the past,who dun made mistake i only can say those people who left are unlucky cause they are lousy,not enyouth cant give them what they want is they cant make it
And when i read your last sentence, Enyouth has already lost half the battle. Good luck! -
Sorry we dont need luck,we have strength which lots of people dont have,fews times we have fall and pick up,what makes you think that we cant do it again without people in the past,they will only live in reget that they left Enyouth cause we will made it and better than them
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Its good to see u in high moraleOriginally posted by endless sky:Sorry we dont need luck,we have strength which lots of people dont have,fews times we have fall and pick up,what makes you think that we cant do it again without people in the past,they will only live in reget that they left Enyouth cause we will made it and better than them -
lame la enyouth. nothing to say then say people lousy.
only know how to phyco people which they call it encourage.
phyconess 1- tell you to come and see see its okie if the end of the day you dont wanna join, its fine.( dumb. trying to make people stay a little long to buy time to brainwash you and make you like the place and listens to them)
phyconess 2- saying all there hired are young people like you, share same intrest play make friends with them.( worse is they will compare your friends with the people there. so future will stick with this people and lesser to your own friends.)
phyconess 3- introduce the product to you and say its good for your praents blah blah blah(the details of product) in the end targeting parents first. say its for experience if they dont wanna buy also nvm.(think lor most parents wouldnt help their children one meh? of cuz most of them will buy la)there comes their pay.
stupid people doing stupid things - family poor liao still ask them buy.( asking a fish not to swim?)
say will promote very fast.why? parents buy of cuz fast la.dumb.
DM to SDM? ask people join and promote high can become. pull friends into water.bastard.
want to become a car achiever?pull more friends in the dark water lor.=)
then waste time and fares to clarke quey. tired also.bloody hell.
Wrath_ing kena caught lol. but nvm la. you are brave to say all that. Good Good. -
read mine to know more la. name: acbdOriginally posted by NemY:hi everyone. i read thru this whole thread, saw alot of negative remarks being thrown. i just wanna ask 1 question. how DID enyouth cheated ppl? hope those ppl who commented so much, can tell us more
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Choose To Be Believe And You Will See, Unfortunately, Often People Choose to See And Then To Believe?Originally posted by numby:not all people siao in gambling or in gaming...so those who realli gambles alot or gaming everyday is like u lor...wasting time only...haha
going in there isn't choose to believe but what I can say is that can choose to try to believe.People choose to see and then to believe because,
they want to know what you are doing and they try to believe in what you are doing then they believe they want to succeed in enyouth.
If you are saying that people should believe the successfulness of you people and join you all to follow what you are doing to become succeed,
you are wrong!!
Only some people who willing to have that job will succeed as what you said
in the way of enyouth.
But to succeed in life you doesn't necessary to be succeed in enyouth way
as in earn that money by asking relitives to buy and being a car acheiver.
Believe in what you want to be and like to be.
Believe in the way you want your life to be.
Living in a way which you are happy with.
Living in a way you don't let down on anyone you know.
Always do your best, a 100-200% in what you are doing.
The believe doesn't inculde the infulence of other people to ask you to follow them, as following people is just like giving your time to them.
And giving your time to them means you wasted lifetime
and you wouldn't become a life achiever.
Some people that succeed in a way, you will think that it is worth to follow.
If you believe that that's the way of life you want, you can follow, why not?
Don't waste your life in what you don't like.Do waste your life in time that worth your life. -
My previous post is for numby's last quote that person not to say numby.
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There are always good and bad,its both side of things,some fail some success,its about effort,its about how much are you willing to give and trust the company,the boss and you will made it,by the way how much you can know about Enyouth when we have made so much changes.Originally posted by acbd:read mine to know more la. name: acbd
Anyway the boss have aready admit his mistake,who does not made mistake rite,cum on give life,be mature can or not stop giving excuses for your failure,too bad is you cant follow the best -
come on la. you wanna make life jsut follow what you want la.Originally posted by endless sky:There are always good and bad,its both side of things,some fail some success,its about effort,its about how much are you willing to give and trust the company,the boss and you will made it,by the way how much you can know about Enyouth when we have made so much changes.
Anyway the boss have aready admit his mistake,who does not made mistake rite,cum on give life,be mature can or not stop giving excuses for your failure,too bad is you cant follow the best
just because of what i said you say i failed? taht is just isn't the life i want.
get a life of your own. if you wanna follow what you are doing now, just do it.
no people is stopping you.whether it is good or bad, depends on yourself.
and doesn't mean in enyouth or nit means you are the best.
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I had an experience with Enyouth today.
The moment I stepped into the lift lobby, I knew its MLM.
Anyway, my friend brought me to the dingy office lah. I only made it to the 5th level and 3rd level. Over there, I saw a few naive looking people signing their lives away, plus people being led on "tours" around the office.
Basically I went through all the normal bullshit, the talks on those people who made it big in life and got their cars and about the boss who went bankrupt 3 times and then got rich again. Personally I found the stories hilarious and absolutely ridiculous. Oh, and I saw the infamous ISO cert too.
He wanted to bring me for the talk but I ran for the lift. Later on, he insisted on going to a cafe nearby and together with another friend, tried to talk me into going back to the office which I refused to.
Basically, I think we should all create more awareness so that more people will know more about this ENY bullcrap and prevent more young and naive individuals from getting cheated or tricked into joining.
P.S: Heard from that friend that the coffeeshop is closing down, don't know true or not lah -
this is exactly what all enyouth ppl like to say... it almost like they make u all memorise a script...Originally posted by endless sky:There are always good and bad,its both side of things,some fail some success,its about effort,its about how much are you willing to give and trust the company,the boss and you will made it,by the way how much you can know about Enyouth when we have made so much changes.
Anyway the boss have aready admit his mistake,who does not made mistake rite,cum on give life,be mature can or not stop giving excuses for your failure,too bad is you cant follow the best
what u said here means NOTHING. It's NO BIG DEAL! any son of a bitch, muther fucker can say the same thing... it's like the general theory that life exists in other universe. -
I will not be surprised if that coffeeshop closes down.. they sell erm... almost next to nothing...Originally posted by just_agirl:I had an experience with Enyouth today.
The moment I stepped into the lift lobby, I knew its MLM.
Anyway, my friend brought me to the dingy office lah. I only made it to the 5th level and 3rd level. Over there, I saw a few naive looking people signing their lives away, plus people being led on "tours" around the office.
Basically I went through all the normal bullshit, the talks on those people who made it big in life and got their cars and about the boss who went bankrupt 3 times and then got rich again. Personally I found the stories hilarious and absolutely ridiculous. Oh, and I saw the infamous ISO cert too.
He wanted to bring me for the talk but I ran for the lift. Later on, he insisted on going to a cafe nearby and together with another friend, tried to talk me into going back to the office which I refused to.
Basically, I think we should all create more awareness so that more people will know more about this ENY bullcrap and prevent more young and naive individuals from getting cheated or tricked into joining.
P.S: Heard from that friend that the coffeeshop is closing down, don't know true or not lah -
I think leddy has pointed out the crux of the problemOriginally posted by leddy:this is exactly what all enyouth ppl like to say... it almost like they make u all memorise a script...
what u said here means NOTHING. It's NO BIG DEAL! any son of a bitch, muther fucker can say the same thing... it's like the general theory that life exists in other universe.
MLMers need to convince the rest of the world why MLM is a workable scheme, and be utterly clear and compelling in their reasoning.
When i read posts that try to point out that those who fall out are losers, or statements that seems very much like trying to delude oneself, its kinda disturbing.
Afterall, non MLMers will gain and lose nothing since they are not participating. MLMers, have much to consider since they have already invested much effort, time and money into the schemes.
To be exclusive and calling non MlMers loses and such, its akin to killing that goose the lay the golden eggs. -
enyouth not slow aready lah,they are just losing trust,is not max and andrew cannot make it,is thier boss losing trust liao even he got money,he could pay his man but...if they take his money they will be more jialat.Originally posted by Wrath_ing:I vote for NTI as the best.
especially our own local companies like enyouth also. Giv them more time lah, especially enyouth, coz even i find their progress too slow.
cant blame them is the boss,that why NTI is the best,we have Mr James Pang -
Cant believe you guys view the same type of companies differently