Astral Mag no longer a DSAS member?
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I remembered seeing Astral Mag being accepted into DSAS membership. Here's the company's DSAS membership link :
http://www.astralmag.com/dsas.htm
Then just a few days ago, I was checking the DSAS members & Astral Mag is no longer there....
http://www.dsas.org.sg/dsas/Html/afterlogin.htm
Does it mean DSAS has found problems with Astral Mag & withdrew its membership?
I been to Astral Mag's office sometime back in August 2004 & it felt like a cult group....one thing I hated is the stupid salesman who keep on emphasising health & wealth in his sales pitch...as well as this girl who said education is not important..come on if education is not important, then how come the government is emphasising so strongly on education? -
i juz run thro the list of member in the DSAS, saw Enyouth, it part of Astral Mag biz. At least one of the biz is listed in the DSAS. bt was suprised tat Astral Mag is out.
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Could be the company didn't fulfill the DSAS membership requirements....
Then the company will not be bound by the rules...which means dissatisfied customers will find it harder to get a refund... -
AMH is the one MLM that gets on my nerves for hard-selling and dishonest practises. seems they never learn. they love manipulating poly ah bengs and lians to con friends for dinner at that Eunos coffee shop. and surprise surprise
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They never did. AMH is well known for hard pressure selling and preying on many teens, making them sell 1000++ worth of useless mattress, causing hardships in many ways for many of them.Originally posted by Cepat:Could be the company didn't fulfill the DSAS membership requirements....
Then the company will not be bound by the rules...which means dissatisfied customers will find it harder to get a refund...
I was disappointed when coys like AMH manage to get into DSAS. And DSAS is powerless org like CASE. -
Why I went to visit Astral Mag is kinda like a long story...
Back then, I wanted to contact my Prudential insurance agent...and I found out she resigned & I called her up & she invited me to come down to Astral Mag for interview...I asked her what job...she bluff me & say got admin job...
At that time, I didn't know what was MLM...so I went down & the whole place look bustling with activity..what I noticed was the car awards & it felt very fishy...
To cut the long story short...I left after the sales presentation & when there was a break, this chio bu came in & start to enquire about me & the others who were present...
Anyway we all go lim kopi and she told me why she feel the company helped her...she also said education is not important..I disagreed with her and then when it was time to go back to the company, I went home....
Kinda felt like I wasted my time..but it opened my eyes to what a scam this company was... -
btw, chat u all want..fast hor...b4 this topic is deleted away...
AMH sponsoring sgforums ya know.....
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they should speak up for themselves if they have nothing to be ashamed ofOriginally posted by laurence82:btw, chat u all want..fast hor...b4 this topic is deleted away...
AMH sponsoring sgforums ya know..... -
and get wad? lame speeches that try to beat ard the bush on morality, courage and blah blah yada yada than point for point argument why they are A ok?Originally posted by boy in blues:they should speak up for themselves if they have nothing to be ashamed of
There is a good reason for sponsoring this forum... -
unless they had been debating against rival MLMers, they should reflect upon why they are unpopular among consumersOriginally posted by laurence82:and get wad? lame speeches that try to beat ard the bush on morality, courage and blah blah yada yada than point for point argument why they are A ok?
There is a good reason for sponsoring this forum... -
Whether or not they are debating against rival MLMers, its always useful to reflect upon their misdoings. Clear all these hard pressure selling and conning of teens, they may gain an advantage against competitors as well as generate good public image.Originally posted by boy in blues:unless they had been debating against rival MLMers, they should reflect upon why they are unpopular among consumers
Right now, its in shambles. Its so notorious, even for people who has never even step into the office b4. -
yup. you're right. AMH is legendary thanks to their teen psycho taticsOriginally posted by laurence82:Whether or not they are debating against rival MLMers, its always useful to reflect upon their misdoings. Clear all these hard pressure selling and conning of teens, they may gain an advantage against competitors as well as generate good public image.
Right now, its in shambles. Its so notorious, even for people who has never even step into the office b4. -
Astral mag and DW is combine , so they change their name to ENYOUTH . last time back in asayo, AMH ceo raymond is a downline of ceo DW joey .
Due to the alot of top agents like Kim Leng , Boon Hong , Alan , Ryan ,
ect.. left AMH to join nuskin . AMH lose it power .. that why now upline joey going to help downline raymond. 
. AMH still a DSAS member , they just change their name only . 
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Good news:
Due to decreasing customer base and profits margins, they are forced to merge.
Bad news:
Merging enable them to continue conning teens and doing hard pressure selling. Like a sore in ur mouth, u lick and lick in hope it goes, and it doesnt..
Lovely..just lovely..
So are we going to see Asayo and such doing the same thing too? -
how come u all know so much abt the internal details?Originally posted by NW_God:Astral mag and DW is combine , so they change their name to ENYOUTH . last time back in asayo, AMH ceo raymond is a downline of ceo DW joey .
Due to the alot of top agents like Kim Leng , Boon Hong , Alan , Ryan , ect.. left AMH to join nuskin . AMH lose it power .. that why now upline joey going to help downline raymond. . AMH still a DSAS member , they just change their name only .
You all fr AMH? -
If he didnt mention it, i would have forgotten it. there is a mention of this somewhere b4...Originally posted by stat:how come u all know so much abt the internal details?
You all fr AMH? -
This is one point why you should spend time in this forum. You will get information (experience) submitted by a lot of learned people who had experienced the same situation before and post what they knew here.Originally posted by stat:how come u all know so much abt the internal details?
You all fr AMH?
This is to help, to enable the forum mates here to learn the lessons fast with minimal costs (our time only). Whereas, the people before us had to pay a lot of (hard earn) money and a lot of heart-ach to learn their lessons.
Of course, not all posting here are truth. We will learn after sometime to discern the truth from the lots.
Hope we all learn from the others and at the same time enjoy ourselves here. -
I agree what what u say PatrickLTH , we can get alot of information there . some maybe truth , some maybe not truth. the only way to find out is to ask the ceo of the company .Originally posted by PatrickLTH:This is one point why you should spend time in this forum. You will get information (experience) submitted by a lot of learned people who had experienced the same situation before and post what they knew here.
This is to help, to enable the forum mates here to learn the lessons fast with minimal costs (our time only). Whereas, the people before us had to pay a lot of (hard earn) money and a lot of heart-ach to learn their lessons.
Of course, not all posting here are truth. We will learn after sometime to discern the truth from the lots.
Hope we all learn from the others and at the same time enjoy ourselves here.
but there a saying in chinese , WU FENG BU QI LANG , . time will tell the truth .
let enjoy sharing ourselves there .
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Ya lar! F**k that company lor!! I was first pressured to "join" then dunno why I "fuckingly" bought their King Size Mattress!!! Really dunno wat got into me man!! Think I'm also at fault lar, cos I also want earn more $$ thats why I kena... Really sux when I think back... $3K lehh... wah... harty sarkit (heart pain in malay).. but its a lesson learn. so forumites... teens out there, dun join k?!! you'll really live to regret!
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Hey, I had similar encountered with Astral Mag before and managed to convinced my friend to leave this particular MLM marketing.
Not only using education as an example for them but also religion which I don't wish to explain further. Moreover, during the sales introduction I strongly disagreed with their speech such as using low-class or high-class people which verbally causing hurts and full of accusing.
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_____________________________Originally posted by NW_God:I agree what what u say PatrickLTH , we can get alot of information there . some maybe truth ,..... WU FENG BU QI LANG , . time will tell the truth .
let enjoy sharing ourselves there .
hahahah, you and PatrickTLH are very bad ppl, just like me.
i can tell you both enjoy seeing these suckers KPKB in here.
for all you know,
these suckers now suffering were initially as arrogant as that Honeybunz. typical MLMers are usually very defensive when others criticised their bizness.. -
what do you mean by typical MLMers?
are you saying yourself also those typical negative sceptical sucker?