NTI-PARIS
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wah sounds bad. hmm nv been to NTI b4 but i wan to warn of a few MLM companies.
Venture Era, Astromt(Enyouth), Bel Air,WBG,Dophlin warriors.
They teach agents to use lies such as having lunch somewhere near their office, then after the lunch they say their office is somewhere near and invite you to go. The presenter will talk all sorts of non-relating stuffs to divert your attention.
My friend joined(4gt which 1) with the promise that he will be given guidance, but only to find out later that when he needed help people will tell him that it is his own career so he must do things on his own.
Btw to those who are alwaz arguing here. Cum on get alive lah young adults, this forums is for you to post comments not to argue. If you really find that some comments are not right then juz dun bother about it loh, why waste your time arguing. Got nth better to do?? -
the companies which you listed out are all local companies.
hmm.... how can you dont know NTI when you know so much about the local companies ??
hmm... how come your first post is in this thread when you dont know NTI ??
hmm... the way you phrase your words is very similar to NTI style leh... -
Why cant we come here to comment and debate?
Companies' main objective is to win over customers and agents, the public, ie, prospective agents and customers are to make sure they are served right. -
Hi, I have read through your comments on all the MLM companies that you said you felt cheated and so on.
I totally agree with you.... but have you thought for once.... why.. at the first place you wanted to join the MLM company?
Do you know in order for you to earn in a MLM company no matter which you go to.. you have to find people...
Cos.. simply.. if you are your own boss how can you expect to earn money.. if you do not work? and expect money to roll in? not fare right?
Then i guess some have request for refund... but are rejected... cos.. very simply... you did not put in the effect to work.. do you think lah.. if you are the boss of the company.. you see your downline never work will you give him his refund?
And if you really do refund your downline.. then everyone do the same..... how the hell the company make money?
So one thing you must know.. is how MLM companies run...
yes... earning money is important.. but what MLM companies also does is help you improve your personal skills.. like management and so on...
BUT OF COURSE there are lots of people who still in the WORK FOR A JOB thinking will feel cheated and not worth because they are not thinking like a business man...
If you really want to be successful.... you have to be a business man.. not an employee....
Althought there are also people who make it in the employee part.. but to be frank are they happy working in their secure job? working like hell for your boss.. do you really want that? if you do.. then go on... no one is stopping you...
So.. please do not make claims this mlm company or that is bad or what... yeah i agree with you... the methods they use somethings to get people are wrong.... but.. DONT FORGET there are also groups in the company who do what they claim to say!
So how can you judge a company just by what you have experience? there are also many other groups in the mlm company that do proper way of earning and training ! -
I don't think people like to argue here. The word should not be used here. Here we are exchanging ideas and idea is always conflicting between people.. Therefore it look like argueing.. you present your point and think your is right. So does the other people here. We got to respect each other point of view. Trouble is many a times, we cannot even agree on what to agree or disagree.. some cannot take it and resort of vulgarities and name calling, that one I agree should be stopped. Don't you think so ??Originally posted by nullify:wah
Btw to those who are alwaz arguing here. Cum on get alive lah young adults, this forums is for you to post comments not to argue. If you really find that some comments are not right then juz dun bother about it loh, why waste your time arguing. Got nth better to do?? -
still doesnt explain why nti is not a scam...
It doesnt help trying to appeal to layman's emotional senses, when the company overall structure has been challenged from a legal perspective...
worse, people have been trying to get refunds or feel cheated, on a massive scale..
its basically stabbing your own foot when their grievances is simply explained away by MLM distributor average growth income potential and success... -
NTI is NTI
Network marketing is Network marketing
dont put NTI together with network marketing... is a total disgrace to our industry!
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BTW, just for curoisity sake, what kind of products does NTI offer??
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I asked the same question b4. See below:Originally posted by ORIGAMIST:BTW, just for curoisity sake, what kind of products does NTI offer??
wayne123
Junior Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 9
Send Message 09 April 2005 · 10:37 AM
NTI has 4 currently. i don't know what's the 4th one about.
1) OXY2 facial products,
2) aroma theraphy products,
3) volcanic crystals and
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oic but wats ECSP card ??Originally posted by pqr:I asked the same question b4. See below:
wayne123
Junior Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 9
Send Message 09 April 2005 · 10:37 AM
NTI has 4 currently. i don't know what's the 4th one about.
1) OXY2 facial products,
2) aroma theraphy products,
3) volcanic crystals and
4) ECSP card
pai seh !!
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something like a privilege card i think.
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i don't need to sign up to post just this, it is very obvious who are the big time losers here, some jerk called laurence 82 insulting companies like dw, coslab, why make yourself sound so wonderful and knowledgeable... why look at things from a person who has not done his share in mlm, like asking a clerk how to cure cancer... anyone who frequents this place weekly must be chemically bored and boring....Originally posted by aCid_rAIn:u sign up just to post this? -
hoho, look whos talking, you can curse and swear as much as you want, eventually its you that gets the bad reputation, calling others shameless just shows how childish you are, not to mention the fact that you are shameless enough to take a personal attack...haha... there is no need to let heads debate over that whining asshole on your face, anyone from society is good enough to whip that slip shot mouth of yours to oblivion.....Originally posted by AvengingAngel:Totally agreez
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As long as NTIparis or James Phuang still exist, MLM from Singapore can NEVER advance to overseas. Curse them hard.
By the way liquid, most forums here are aiming NTIparis. obviously NTIparis is a shame to human race, helping shameful coy shows you are d a m n shameless, even more shameless then that coy
***Heads form NTIparis DON'T dare to talk with us, but they send some small cats and dogs to sacrifies***
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wonder y ppl always talk abt man utd chelsea arsenal real madrid but not abt some rushens and diamonds or bristol rovers
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wow..I didn't know that insulting people is also a marketing technique to attract pple...Originally posted by liquid_vapour:hoho, look whos talking, you can curse and swear as much as you want, eventually its you that gets the bad reputation, calling others shameless just shows how childish you are, not to mention the fact that you are shameless enough to take a personal attack...haha... there is no need to let heads debate over that whining asshole on your face, anyone from society is good enough to whip that slip shot mouth of yours to oblivion..... -
to vapour: I think you had better wake up. I joined NTI before you, but luckily I came to my senses once I looked beyond the surface. All that motivation, all those talk by james phang, all the high ranking managers - all part of a ploy to fool you. Please check and come back with evidence that nti is really what you proclaim, a saint company.
The top RSDs or BDMs are earning nothing. everything is for show, don't you get it? I asked their lost distributors (who were their friends) abt them, they still have many debts outside. U really want to know how much they earn? Go and ask them to let you view their acc. The no. of accounts will tell you. It may seem like a lot, but NTI has been around for 2 years, and if they really earn 10k a month, the accounts should be near infinite. See how many accs they got in for the last mth, do your calculations and the truth will be revealed.
Stop taking what they say as the words of the bible. You are smart enough to judge for yourself. If they say something, like I earn $10000 a month, or whatever, prove it. Please use your time to do more constructive stuff instead of hanging in this place and convincing people to use very very expensive products. OK?
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Agreed with above post. NTI is just bad,with the hardcore pressuring from my friend who lured me to join the company 2 years ago,i just hate that company.
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Most MLM I guess are tolerable to a certain extent, but nti just takes the cake. Lousy management, lousy (inferior) products and plastic leaders. Even if they are not condoned by the law, sooner or later their reputation will be so good that nobody will dare go near it...as many have seen for themselves, like me.
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Hi, I'm also one of the ppl who asked for refunds.
I was lured in on the 9 june and i went down for a refund on the 12 june. I went down with two of my friends. We went there without notifing my upline and we sit there for about a few hours to see the place, while waiting for my upline to return to the office. Up til today the application is still in processing, while the application to join was processed at god's speed.
Nti didn't cheat us, they just trick us.[/b] -
wah lan if im william tell i give super high odds for u not getting ur refund. still processing? pls la, it's not even being processed, probably chucked somewhere liao
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you from their management?Originally posted by leddy:wah lan if im william tell i give super high odds for u not getting ur refund. still processing? pls la, it's not even being processed, probably chucked somewhere liao -
No i'm not. Just using my Common sense
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You see, by posting such iresponsible remarks about them, do you think it's fair to the company? That's why alot of people have negative thoughts too.Originally posted by leddy:No i'm not. Just using my Common sense
Why don't the those who are waiting for the refund, just call up the company to check again rather than "complaining" here?
I know when I say this, people will say that I am trying to cover up again, BUT people out there, please use your logical sense. There are some here who just want to add salt to the wound! -
oh okie.... good for you that you think this way... hahaa...hhahaaa........hahhaahaaa....hhahaaa
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To the people out there, you should go to CASE immediately if they fail to refund you. They may be dragging so that once it passed the stipulated timeframe, you may not be eligible for any refunds at all.
As for Ms Prickly Heat, do you think they will entertain these pple who wants refund? If yes, they will not even be posting their comments here.
To all, my advise is not to join this co. If you are targetting to earn as much as their management, like desmond or jackie?, Join Mac or even KFC. Thye may pay you even higher.hahahahaha
Only Mr James is earning your $ through his well-designed scams. i personally was cheated more than $10k