Help! ! newbie chinese rockie
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heya all, i'm quite new to chinese music. i did use to listen to it when i was in secondary school. i remember people like liangwenfu, panying and tianjing.(!!) somewhere in between then and now, I got lost in red hot chilli peppers and radiohead. IÂ’m trying to get back into listening chinese music again, so I need some help. Can anyone recommend me five good albums to listen to? They donÂ’t have to be recent stuff. Releases of the past two years is fine. my musical tastes tend towards rock. I also like ballads, but not the syrupy kind. An example of a ballad I like is Ling3 Wu4 written by Li Zong Sheng, partly coz of the lyrics.
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hi... here's some little suggestions:
- mayday's 2nd album, ai qing wan sui (rock,hokkien)
- jay's debut album (r&b)
- sun yan zi's 2nd album (pop)
- zhou hui's debut album, jing xuan (pop)
- tanya's debut album, hu xi (pop/rock)
- faith yang's 2nd album, silence (rock)
- elva hsiao's debut album (r&b)
- eason tan's latest album, it's me (pop/rock)
for rock bands, i only have heard mayday, tolaku n wubai's music before. since wubai had not released anything new for a long time n tolaku is abit immature... i can only recommend mayday. even if u don't like hokkien songs, give it a try... trust me :-)
i guess, nowadays chinese songs r better as there r more variety... not just sentimental love songs only... even jackie's new album got a nice slow rock number... n people like david tao n jay breaking new ground w r&b... i thought i dont like r&b at all... til i take a chance n buy jay's cd.
hey... i quite like rhcp too... i still have the under the bridge single somewhere in my collection :-> plus pearl jam, nirvana, bush, blur, garbage, supergrass... those r the good years of alternative rock... then less n less good bands came out... too bad. -
Hmmmz...
I recommend Elva Hsiao(1+2+3), Sun Yanzi(1+2+3), Grace Chow(1+2), Jiang Meiqi(3+4), Sandy Lam...Valen Hsu...
Guys...Jay Chou, Lee Hom... -
If you ask me, I will definitely recommend Dreamz FM albums. If you really need to choose, you can start listening to the 1st album, it's a good introduction of to DFM's music. The 2nd album was the maturing phase, and that is the one with the very popular BuZhiDe (best song!). For the 3rd, you can just let your mind flow with the notes they are hitting really high. It is mainly comprising of ballads which are not overly sickly sweet, but rather warm and tingling. Highly recommended are "Shou Hu Xing" and "7-11 De Ai Lian".
I also highly recommend Huang Da Wei's albums, especially his double CD compilation. His recent one (actually it is 1+ year old already) "Qiu Tian 1944" is a critically acclaimed album, which unfortunately did not do well in the sales charts.
Tao Zhe's 1st album had made a pretty big impact too. I bought mine during the days when he did not even have a distributor for his album here, and I had to buy the imported copy. Needless to say, mine did not include bonus tracks...but IMHO, it is still one of the best Chinese albums.
English wise, the albums I often spin even till now are John Lennon "Lennon Legends", Oasis "What's the Story? (Morning Glory)", Blur "The Great Escape", Pulp "Different Class", all albums by Beatles, Jamiroquai and David Bowie, etc...Yupz, my tastes are pretty Brit-influenced... -
I wun advise to begin with Dreamz FM...it's not an ideal measurement of the whole pop scene. It is good to start with Jay Chou and Lee Hom...they are critically reknowned...so start with their albums...
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so! there are beatles, oasis, rhcp, nirvana and garbage fans here! looks like my kind of bulletin board afterall! ;D
thankee all for your recommendations! they will be taken into solemn consideration upon my next trip to chua joo huat cd store.
well, juz to let u all know how pathetic my knowledge is, i have absolutely no idea who faith yang, zhou hui, grace chou, dreamz FM and huang da wei are. heh heh...pai seh pai seh. but will certainly give them a listen when i get the chance.
i think right now i have a GRAND TOTAL of..taratada....EIGHT chinese albums! heh. they include 4 faye wong albums (sorry, i'm a glam-worshipper), sun yan zi (2+3), harlem yu ("Hai Xiao") and also Tanya Chua ("I Do Believe"). the last four r partly why i decided to start listening to chinese music again. i agree with roy29, the variety of chinese music has certainly widened considerably. and the calibre too! i'm quite impressed by tanya's compositions, somehow her tunes manage to capture that area between being too catchy and being too odd. though i wish she would put in more effort into music arrangement. i think one single acoustic and a voice is poignant, but not really very interesting. Stephanie's compositions are not bad too, and at least she breaks out of the usual 'chinese song'G-D-Em-Bm-C-Bm-C-D-G chord progression. As for Stella Koh (is it Koh?), i think she really sucks. her compositions are like, u know, airport music. and since i'm female, i dont give a hoot what she looks like. though it would be interesting to bump into her in arts one day and be able to see how she usually behaves... :O
Ooops...sorry i ramble...i just like to analyse compositions. it helps me when i write my own nonsense, u see. it's interesting to find out just what makes a song tick. sometimes it can be the lyrics or just a nice riff or bassline, or even just a strange chord sticking out of nowhere! well, thats just my odd opinion. donno if u guys have any opinions on this? -
hi!
really hao jiu hao jiu never post message liao...i am too bias to introduce any album lar...but if u insist, tao zhe album one is a good buy. i like his album two as well, but not as much as No.1...
fan wei qi album oso not bad...really think so...her voice brightens up my day
s.sun, everybody mention liao, but i think most of the time, ppl tend to accept her music for who she is...true her music is good, but i think if the same songs give someone else who can sing is as well to sing, the song might not be that popular...here i am directly refering to songs like e-lover, he ping, etc...cannot remember...
tanya chua...i dunno what u think, but i dun liek her latest album. time and time again i will sing 'hao wu liao', 'wu suo wei' and other songs from her first 2 album, but when i hear 'i do believe', i switch off the radio.
faye! i love her last album...i love the 5 songs that form a story...but i dun like her current one...really dunno why.
nic tse---zhu da ge not nice...case closed. -
forgot to say ar!
coco lee's dao ma dan...i like the lyrics...so te4 bie2! -
hi... u r welcome, kalla :->
v briefly...
faith yang is yang nai wen... her music is basically rock w a slight alternative slant...
grace chow=zhou hui... good singer... her 1st hit 'bu xiang lang ni zi lao (dont want to let u go)' is really a solid song... but she kan only sing sentimental songs lah
huang da wei... only heard a few of his songs... he's good
fan wei qi... check out her song 'ying wei (because)' from her debut... a simple n sincere love song
stella... isn't as good a singer as yanzi... but i quite like 'deng (wait)'... not long ago i find myself humming to the chorus... 'deng deng deng deng deng...'
i quite like tanya... but i feel her latest cd not as good as the 1st two... 'hu xi (breathe)' from her 1st... i really like the way the tone changes throughout the song... if u know wat i meant... u r rite, some of her songs r too bland altough v sincere
some songs really progress v nicely... but this is really an art... for example, if u have heard pearl jam's betterman... from v slow to fast... from just organs to the catchy chords dat back the song as well... n vedder's voice from gentle to emotional... to me, its simply superb
so... chua joo huat is still there, at far east?? i used to go there n dada to 'hunt' for new alternative cds... i bought tons of nirvana singles from there... those were the days
nowadays too lazy liao... just buy at any music junction store -
oh yah! i've heard and seen yang nai wen on TV, one of her MTVs. i remember her song was quite nice, very rock. dont recall the name though. didnt know she's oso called faith yang.
oh...so grace chow=zhou hui...ahem...pai seh pai seh. heehee.
who is this fan weiqi? singaporean right? is she the one who was previously a journalist with the Straits Times? or is this a figment of my imagination?
yah, i heard that tanya's earlier albums were better. will definitely get them. but i do like the song she wrote for the chicken rice war soundtrack: "I'll Remember You". very touching. her chord changes in the chorus are also very neat.
chua joo huat! the only place to find weird stuff (like nirvana bootlegs?) in the dark old days before borders and HMV. yes, it's still at far est plaza. i still go there sometimes. they have a good blues and jazz collection and it's easy to try the albums. dont have to wait forever like at HMV.
pearl jam has got a great sound. i agree about the crazy crescendos in their music, it's a real art. sad that they've quite deteriorated in the past few years. speaking of which, one of the things that seems to be quite lacking in chinese music is interesting and eclectic music arrangement. the only ones i know (in my limited knowledge) who make a real effort are faye wong's team. though when her hubbie was still playing for her, i was quite traumatised hearing the same backbeat in every song. heh
so theres actually someone here who likes faye! thanks for your recommendations, liyan. me dont have faye's more recent albums though. i gave up at the zhi ai mo shen ren album.
quite true about steph sun. image and looks do count a lot in the chinese music scene. but i do think that if she didnt have the voice that she does, she would probably have done very very badly. her looks dont even match up to jolin tsai's.
coco lee's voice like doing acrobat all the time...hahaha..but i do like her slower more sombre ballads. -
In fact Coco's latest album is more of ballads than any others...at least half the songs are...she tries to imitate mariah a little but she toned down quite a lot.
Oh...Fan Weiqi isn't the one who worked as a journalist...the singer is Xin Wei (Heart Smile)...i kinda know her...and her album Bei Dui De Shi is not bad...might wanna check out.
I recommend Sandee Chan as well...and Cheer Chen Qizhen. Give Fish Leong a miss...i think fan weiqi, penny tai, and freya...not bad.
Btw...it is stella ng...ex crescent gals/acjc. -
Well, listening to music does not have a restriction or according to popularity of a singer, as long as it is good music, it is worth our support. Why must we chose singers who are popular in the industry?
I strongly recommend you guys, Dreamz FM 3, although they are not supported by our fellow Singaporeans, but i strongly feel that they have put in enough effort in this album.
I just cannot understand why pple listen to music according to popularity.. then good music is not appreciate at all. How can u judge Dreamz FM music without giving them a chance? Just by the Media, saying they are like Bee Gees? Just like that u have to judge them in negative way?
I can tell you if they release their album just to be popularise, then there won't be any Dreamz FM 3. But they do it for their love of music and hoping that we can appreciate their music as fellow Singaporeans, is that wrong too?????
Is not becos i support them then 'fight' for them.. but believe me, they do it for the love of music, appreciate it. -
hi again... the MTV u saw was probably 'queen' from her latest cd. she looks quite cool... no?? anyway i like singers w 'bo chap' attitude lah
well itz alrite lah... i'd almost forgetten grace chow=zhou hui too
i like fish's 2nd album... some really 'singable' songs dats v popular among gals in KTV... but my favourite ma guo ge shou is penny... more talented n kan rock abit...
glad to hear chua joo huat is still around :-> didnt downgrad to selling vcd like dada... well tinking back... i regretted buying bootlegs... coz most of them, the quality is really poor. talking about weird stuff... been to this small store called roxy at funan??
boy u're rite... recent pearl jam albums r less inspiring. their latest studio album... put aside after listening 3 or 5 times... but i got two of their european concert bootlegs... they remind me why i like them in the 1st place!!!
music arrangement... maybe u r rite, but i tink it's hard to come up w alternative arrangement without sounding like pottishead every time haha :-)
plus... some chinese songs tends to drag on for too long... like die die must make it past 4-min mark... wats wrong w a 2-min ditty??
production is important too... cos i like the raw band sound v much lah. sometimes i feel... some songs may be nicer if it is not over-produced... or they ditched the layered guitar sound!! -
ah...interesting...me discerns a true blue nirvana acolyte in u, roy29.
for me, i cant really agree that ditching the overlays is always good. depends on the song lah. but i do agree that listening to the raw band sound is really quite shiok! are there any chinese bands that 'specialise' in that kind of sound?
yeah, i think i still have a couple of nirvana bootlegs somewhere. didnt even like them after i bought them. they were really TOO noisy in them, a bit like van halen and skid row. (skid row!! i dont believe i actually remember...)
i do recall an odd cd shop in funan...but never really explore it. thats roxy, isit?
so er...who are sandee chan, cheer chen, penny tai and freya? and who in the WORLD is fish leong??? from what outlandish country did he (it's a 'he' right?) hail from?? 'fish' for prosperity and abundance is it? hahahaha.......oops...hope no fish fans here....;P
donno about chinese songs lasting too long...never really had that impression. but one thing that can make a song SOUND long are REPEATED VERSES. taht really gets on my nerves sometimes, especialy if the lyrics were not particularly good in the first place. it's like having to hear the same bull s**t twice! and i think repeating verses reflects really poorly on the lyricist's creative ability.
finally know who dreamz FM are...so they're singaporeans. saw a poster of them today, they r really not picture perfect, r they? heh...no offense intended, fei chuan. but one question, would u be as avid a supporter if they were not singaporeans? -
I am not anti-dreamz fm or wat...but hey...they only have a one-hit wonder...bu zhi de...and it is thus that's why people start to take a slight notice of them...in fact dreamz fm 2...has 16 songs (too much...listen until sian...) their music has no variety...(at least faye does...considering the fact i am not a faye wong fan)...i mean...the media is not totally groundless on their attacks...and with their tian tian hao xing qing...that is one of the worst songs they've recorded...many of my friends agree on tat...it is good enuff to wipe out some of their nice songs....they dun look as good as F4...or have strong backing like tension...or put it this way...their lyrics are not as good as mayday or hot enuff to stir up the crowd...geez...they do have the ability no doubt...but hey with looks playing an important factor in a 'boy band'...well...dreamz really have to kao bian zhan.
And I am kinda sure many dreamz fm fans got to know them thru bu zhi de and not the fact they r singaporean...hey...if u wanna talk abt supporting singaporeans...we have xin wei...mavis hee...kit chan...tanya...unless they r less better than dreamz?
The fact is abt good music...if u wanna talk abt good music...dun forget...there is Xinwei...Singer/Composer Sandee Chan/Chen Shanni...Cheer Chen Qizhen...Penny Tai/Dai Peini(she is the one that sings one of the songs wo yao de ai from meteor garden)...why dun u look at them...their music is more original than dreamz (at least they have not been finger pointed for 'imitating')...after all...fans are fans
As for Fish Leong/Liang Jingru...she is from malaysia...her 2nd album was good...her third album...well...i juz dun like the album...it is worse off then freya lin fan (the one who got lan zhenglong to pose for the first edition of her album)
As for going over 4 mins...well...unless u want an album of 10 songs with abt 30 mins...well...isn't it too short and then start grumbling too short too short...not worth money.
Fact is u cannot compare western pop to chinese pop...if u wannna compare stick to western pop then...chin pop is still conservative...and it is not the lyricist fault... -
Lee Hom...also puts in effort...jay also puts in effort...
Seriously...it's not abt popularity...it is what the music industry is...or heading towards to...
Seriously...dun u get put off by dreamz fm cover? -
Seriously, many people have a very "high-class" way of listening to music, ie. listening to music which music critics say are good blah blah. Perhaps that will make them look high-class too *shrugs* Of course, that is purely my own opinions.
Dreamz FM is not bland definitely. I understand the comment of them being one-hit wonder, but that is seriously undermining their abilities. BuZhiDe is the song which makes people take notice of who they really are, but that does not mean they have only that one good song. They had lots of good songs in their 1st/2nd album as well, but since these songs were not played on air or given special mention by critics, hence no one knew much more about them or their songs besides "BuZhiDe". At least BZD made people really took notice of them, which is not such a bad thing, I guess?
Btw, I came into contact with their music since their days in Aegeam, or now known as the MusicDreamer. I am definitely not those so called fans who jumped on their bandwagon of supporters after BZD.
Frankly, since after those days of Xi Ban and Sheng Ming Guo Ke (the old SBC serials), I can't really think of any serial songs which are of good standards. Most local serials just leech popular songs off some singers and just put them as the theme songs of the shows. Power Station and Mavis Hee "contributed" alot of that sense. "Tian Tian Hao Xin Qing" may not be DFM's best work, but I feel it is at least tailored for and appropriate for the show, which is supposed to be lighthearted.
I realise when alot of people mention about supporting local music, they will mention Mavis Hee, Kit Chan, Tanya, and of course Stefanie Sun. Seriously, if they have not made it good in Taiwan, would people still give any hoot about them? Where are our Zheng Zhan Luns, Hong Shao Xuans, Tian Jings and Pan Yings then? Oh, they did not get the chance to step out of Singapore and into TW...(but their songs did. Eg. Lin Zhi Xuan and Yu Guan Hua sang some of ZZL's songs)
Kit did not sell that well for her 1st album, so she re-packaged and re-released it in TW, which made a big splash. Suddenly, she became the the pride of Singaporeans.
Same thing for Mavis Hee, people only knew about her Ming Zhi Dao, but most people gave her scant notice until she became known in TW for her "Yi Han" album.
Tanya was only known in the English music circuit and pub scene here before she started singing Chinese songs. Hu Xi introduced her proper into the Chinese scene, but I think she expresses herself much much better in English, thanks to her "English roots" when she studied in a certain girls' sch (nono, not RGS).
Stefanie Sun started out in TW even before she was introduced to the home audience. I think it does not take a genius to understand the logic. Yes, most local fans hanker after certain fads only after they have taken TW/HK by storm. Many locals only knew about her after that very famous gun scare incident. When she made it good in TW, her popularity spread like wildfire and hit the Singapore scene. She is no doubt a good singer, but I think no one will bet against the possibility that she may not have made it so big if she had not started in TW initially.
I am not that sure about Xin Wei's popularity overseas, but my gut feel is that she will be more well-received and better accepted in TW than in here. I guess TW fans know how to appreciate good music better than us?
Oh, in case you are still in doubt, one very good example of local fans following in the shadows of the TW fans -- F4. Need I say more?
(PS: Apologies for the long mail, but can't help that I wrote so long. Oh, can't bother if anyone cares about what I wrote too) -
skid... row... (frown)??
when kurt killed himself, i'd really felt like i lost a fren, u know? beneath the noise guitar, n the simple but lovely melodies... one kan really sense his despair, frustration n vulnerability... it's a different feeling from pearl jam's songs where the anger is greater, n the vulnerability is lesser...
it wasn't really til the brits came (oasis,blur,supergrass,etc) w their more positive attitude when i started to listen actively again... such is the impact... during dat time, sheryl crow's tuesday nite was a good companion :-)
u bought nirvana bootlegs oso? the early ones probably got more of their songs from bleach which r more raw... or maybe becos they're still not famous dan... those early days kurt would just upped the amp n slided his axe like there's no 2morow... dan he would dan roll on the stage, triving on the distortions... dan things got really ugly... hence the excessive noise?!!
skid row... (frown again)... SKID ROW!!! hahaha... i kant believe seeing this word again!! wow... it's more dan 10 years since i 1st heard '18 and life'... thanks 4 the trip down memory lane their rhythm guitarist was good, i recall. any particular ones u fancy?? err, lemme guess... flea from rhcp?? i like nuno from extreme, if u know who he is :->
the odd shop u see should be roxy... i seldom buy from there... but i used to go there just to see those interesting stuff... n rare vinyls on display there
so sandee chan=chen shanni, thks zilch... she's an accomplished songwriter... kan be loosely considered alternative, i guess... really like an old song of hers... 'afternoon 3:30...'... forgot the title liao
chinese bands, i haven't heard alot about them... in taiwan, it seems like there r a few mayday wannabes out there... hopefully there r other great bands coming out
nowadays i m more chim chai when it comes to listening music... as long as the feeling's good... it's okay lah...
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guys n gals,
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hi zilch,
well... i rather welcome an album of 12 songs, 36 mins dan 10 songs, 40 mins!!
lets me just pick two songs for example...
on the left corner... jay's 'long juan fong' (4 min)
the 3-part melody is really catchy... flowing from one part to another smoothly... the piano intro is good... short n not abused again... nice end too, w just vocals n nothing else (sybolising end of the whirlwind?? i wonder)... v compact song, don't feel dat 4 mins past by at all
on the right... zhang zheng yue's 'yi kai shi jiu mei you tui lu' (6 min)
got a nice tune... like the bass... but the song is so dragging... he keeps on repeating the chorus... even the intro is too long... a v long 6 mins i would say
agreed... the production r more conversative, unless the artist has a big say in it... not dat i am really bothered, just hoping some producer will read this forum... n things will change little by little, for the better :-) -
hi fei chuan n hajime =) putting my 2 cents into tis dreamz fm thing lah =)
i tink there's nothing wrong w listening to music dat's popular i feel... but as u say, as long as u feel it's good.
say i heard a band on mtv/radio... or saw some song rocketting up the charts... or some frens say so n so is damn good... so i give it a try... spin spin... err, nothing too wrong rite??
wat i meant is... usually people like wat they listen... hence they support it... not becos it's alredi popular...
another reason is the type of music... lets say i have $20 to spare to buy something new... i saw these 2 cds... one is some new band, 4 energetic young guys... another is a group like dreamz fm (they r a singing group? sorry if i'm wrong)... n both r recommended by the store... i would take the band cos i like the band sound... anyway i dont really like tension, shoe-bee-do-wah dat much... my choice isn't based on popularity either.
my turn to talk about a band i support... mayday.
why i like them so much?? sure, its band sound... but technically, maybe they aren't as good as, say... wu bai. but i kan relate v much to their songs... their music really move me... there's youth, positiveness, rambling about everyday life, heartbreak...
when i m feeling down or didn't do well in certain things, listening to 'gong lang (fool)' really cheer me up n gives me the energy to go 4 it again
when i m singing 'wu ni a chiong lai (a future without u)'... makes me tink about a prev relationship... really struck a chord in my heart... the lyrics represent wat i felt... wat i really want to say
these r hokkien songs... like dreamz fm songs, they neber make it to radio or tv in sg. but they, plus others, r gems to me... n for me, it's good enough. my frens dont have to like it... the people i know dont have to... n definately there will be pp who categorically dismiss hokkien songs... but i'll rather be a 'gong lang' n listen to wat i want.
i'm sure dreamz fm has its own merits, n is in it not for the $$$... maybe it's not popular cos it's not well promoted... most of my frens only heard of this group, but not any of their songs... personally i dont tink nationality matters alot...
as for F4... well, they're idols w good looks... wat else kan u say?? case closed. -
Just adding some comments.. forgive me for saying this.. Asia Music Industry in demoralising now.. why? becos even guys with looks without vocals can produce an album and can even sell well..
Zil, i am sure u are bias against Dreamz FM, u din even listen to their music and conclude that only BuZhiDe bought them to fame? And saying their cover not appealing? is the cover so important? or the vocals? Did you listen to the whole album???? how can u just judge a book by the cover?
Ya, mayb u pple think with looks, can produce album, then can sell well? then what's the pt? Music is for us to relax, not for us to see how handsome is the guys... or pretty.. when come, AHHHH... shouting.. that is a way of supporting music, or the person?
I am not a fan of Dreamz FM, but well, look, they have put in a lot of effort and just becos of some of the negative comments, does that means all their hard work are gone???? Just a few neg comments, we have to forget how many months and efforts they put in????????
Then why did they represent Singapore to UN if their songs are so lousy???????? Just think of those handsome guys release album and support them????/ Is that the situation in Asian Music Industry? Yes!!! -
Well, then think again, where do all those so call handsome boy band songs from? they write songs??? i think it is the producer and those who can compose...
Zil, i think u are being too much, really.. do u know that some fans support then since when they are at Min Ge Can Ting? not Bu Zhi De????? How can u conclude this?
Then if Tian Tian Hao Xing Qing is so awful, then why 93.3fm chart will have their song? Are u trying to imply that 93.3fm have no quality in songs?????
I think u are wrong.. they have supporters, but their age gap is bigger, they belong to the twenties.. u don't expect seeing the twenties going and scream at them.. DREAMZ FM, I LOVE YOU!!! when they are singing...
They prefer to listen to their music.. and that does not mean that by shouting, it proves the popularity of a singer...
Supporting and fans have a lot of diff, supporting is listening to music.. some prefer to be quiet..
And by making from Bu Zhi De, Dreamz got a lot of supporters, that is wrong!!!! Some of them support them since they are at Aegeam.
Bu Zhi De is a good song, only ppl who knows how to appreciate will know... -
RE: Roy29
yah, i remember when kurt killed himself...i was quite shocked, coz the band were sorta at their prime and he just got married. but then there seemed to be something philosophical about his suicide which i cant quite describe..... oh do u recall that after that LIPS and 77th Street (at far east) started selling copies of his death cert? man, that was really creepy.
brit bands are okay, but i just dont like their sound as much as US bands. they use too many synthesizer effects which distract from the main band sound. i prefer blink182, wheatus and 3 doors down. their sound more raw and and the tunes are more alternative. PLUS their drummers play like maniacs (all copy green day one...), so tehy r very fun to listen to.
oh definitely i remember nuno, he of the black painted fingernails. "more than words" was the first song i learnt how to play on the guitar. nuno is a damn good guitarist. do u remember this song in their first album, "Flight of the Bumblebee"? fwaaah!!!donno what happened to extreme now. well, for guitar licks, mostly i listen to the grandfather jimi hendrix donno how he does it, he can sing a song while playing the counter-melody on his guit at the same time!! he's my guitar god. oh, i think wubai is also quite solid. i like especially his solo in Nuo2 Wei1 Sen1 Lin2.
ahh...i know who is sandee chan now. heard that afternoon 3.30 song before on TV. very nice song. MTV oso very funny.
RE: Zilchster
just to let u know, zilchster, my comments about repeated lyrics and music arrangement are generic considerations about what makes a good song. therefor they apply to all songs, english or chinese (or malay or tamil...). i'm not using english songs to compare to chinese songs. of course english songs oso have repeated lyrics and unintersting arrangement. but it just so happens taht this is true more often than not of chinese songs. dats why i bring it up.
RE: hajime
hey, i think that when zilchster suggested that one should not start by listening to dreamz fm but to more renowned singers instead, his (or her) only intention was to enable that person (in this case, me) to have a better idea of what the current chinese pop scene is like. it is a matter of fact that jay chou and lee hom are critically acclaimed and hence can serve as a more accurate reflection of what the current chinese pop scene is like. in fact, i think zilschter clarified his/her intention when he/she said that "dreamz fm is not an ideal measurement of the whole pop scene." (hahaha...sorry zilch...i make u sound like some hermaphrodite with all the he/shes. cant be too careful in these forums.)
hajime, u say that the only reason why singaporeans do not appreciate dreamz fm is bec they have not made it big in taiwan like steph, mavis, kit and so on. that may be true. i think we dont always appreciate our local artistes and need external validation. so taiwan is like our testing ground...if make it big there then worthy of support. (sigh...what to do? singaporeans always so insecure one what...)
oh btw, i came from same school as tanya, and let me tell u, our school very "cheena" one so no england roots to speak of. it is tanya herself who has always been anglo. (nope, i dont know her personally, though i remember what she was like at the time)
RE: nameless
i think zilchster said that he listened to all 16 songs of dreamz fm until xian...so cannot say he never listen to their songs.
so erm...r u saying that we should appreciate singers based on how much work and effort they put in, what radio station plays their songs and on how many fans they have? these r bad arguments, nameless. if u truly think that dreamz fm is good, u must talk about their music and what u find good about it. to clarify, i am not taking sides here. (hell, i cant even take sides, since i've never heard dreamz fm...hahaha..)no, i'm just showing u how to make a better argument here, nameless.